Spotsylvania - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: John McGown 8-30-1716

tamarahyden — 2013-04-27 21:25:02Z

These are my direct decents. What I want to know is, has anyone found any information on John McGoun (the father)?

Re: Gavis Family

trudiowallace — 2013-04-11 12:36:05Z

My parents met the Gavis family in the marine corp, they were Mark's godparents. We used to visit their farm in summers. It's a very happy memory. I was pen-pals with the daughters until the murders. my parents wouldn't talk about the murders, but it stays on my heart

Re: Kinkead Run

1mercury_1 — 2013-03-12 01:09:29Z

Hello:
I believe that the following is the same land grant you write of:

DAVID KINKEAD, 660a. NL. St. Marks Par., Spolsylvania Co.. in the Goard Line Fork; mouth of abr. of Kinkcad Run to Bessie Bell Mountain; Mary Gray Mountain. 1 Aug 1734.

This one might be another land grant?:
DAVID KINCADE. of St. Mark's Par.. Spotsylvania Co.. 400a. NL. in co. afsd.. in great fork of Rappahannock R.; N. side of the head of the branch of Devil's run. 20 Jun. 1733.

St. Mark's Parish:
Formed from St. George's Parish. When Orange Co was formed from Spotsylvania Co in 1734, St. Mark's Parish went too. After Culpeper Co was formed from Orange Co in 1748, it served both counties. In 1753, that part of St. Mark's Parish in Orange Co, was added to St. Thomas's Parish.

Finally!! I found Devil's Run in Culpepper Co., VA. It intersects with Hazel River. I backtraced Hazel River and it begins off the Rappahannock River. It also joins up with Thorton River which is in the vicinity of Bessie Bell Mountain. Hazel River pretty much stays in Culpepper Co. This looks like a prime possibility for where these Kincade land grants were. I'm pasting the link for the map so you can see Hazel River and Devil's Run. Devil's Run would be to the lower right of the map. I'm sure if you play around with it you can figure it out.

Here's the link:
http://www.mapquest.com/?q=38.53694,-78.11194

Hope this helps.
Leslyn Lang

Re: The Nichol's Family

1mercury_1 — 2013-03-11 22:52:42Z

Hi:
This sounds interesting. Can you tell me where (what area?) you found this marker? It might help to narrow down an identity. Is there anything else around it? Other markers?
LL

Re: Demetrio Panone 1997 obiti from Spotsylvania

1mercury_1 — 2013-03-11 22:34:07Z

Hello:
Sorry to take so long in looking for this for you. Attached please find a pic of the obituary for Demetrio Panone. I've also posted it on his find a grave memorial at the following link:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=71...

I'm giving you the link just in case something happens and it won't attach.
Leslyn Lang

Re: NEW SPOTSYLVANIA COUNTY VA GENEALOGY WEBSITE

1mercury_1 — 2013-03-11 21:50:16Z

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaspotsy/

Re: NEW SPOTSYLVANIA COUNTY VA GENEALOGY WEBSITE

morganj166 — 2013-03-11 17:20:59Z

What is the web address for your Spotsylvania website?

Re: NEW SPOTSYLVANIA COUNTY VA GENEALOGY WEBSITE

Marcum77 — 2013-03-09 02:46:14Z

Thanks so much for all the information. I really appreciate it. George Musick was the father of Elexious.
Elexious's son David Musick was the one who was murdered by Indians in 1892 in Russell CO, VA. David's family were taken as captives but rescued by neighbors who followed them. I have been to the place of the massacre a few times on Big A Highway in Russell County. I would love to go to the place where Plentiful Run used to be. Many thanks.

Karen

Re: NEW SPOTSYLVANIA COUNTY VA GENEALOGY WEBSITE

1mercury_1 — 2013-03-09 02:10:31Z

Hi:
So far what I have is a Plentiful Creek. It is located on the Belmont Topographic Map.

Click this link to take you to a list of streams/rivers:

http://virginia.hometownlocator.com/features/physical,class,...

Click on Plentiful Creek for a map.

Looking at the area it is sitting above Lake Anna. Places close to it would be Dan, Belmont. I guess a good place perhaps if you are shipping tobacco.

Not sure if you are associated with the following Musick family genealogy website:

http://www.mcclure-hopsonfamilyhistory.com/music.htm

It mentions your ancestor:

George, Sr., was granted 300 acres of land in Spotsylvania County VA on 8 September 1728 (probably from King George of England). The Musick Family Association history says the plantation was known as "Plentiful Run," and on it he grew and exported tobacco. The first roads to Plentiful Run were called "rolling roads" because they were designed to permit a tobacco grower to roll barrels of tobacco behind a mule to the wharf and warehouses on the river, for shipment to England. There were other land grants, indicating that George Musick was a man of means, a large landholder.

Apparently he was father the the infamous Elexious Musick whose family was taken captive by the Indians. The WPA Historical Inventory has a couple of items relating to the story about this.

Hope I've been able to narrow down your search area. I've not come across a plantation called Plentiful Run but you never know.
Leslyn Lang

Re: NEW SPOTSYLVANIA COUNTY VA GENEALOGY WEBSITE

Marcum77 — 2013-03-09 01:00:52Z

Hi,
Do you know the location of Plentiful Run - the place George Musick lived? Thanks,

Karen

Re: John and Amelia Dobbins

dhazel1 — 2013-03-08 21:48:05Z

Sharon,

Here is Amelia's death notice in the 6 May 1890 The Free Lance (Fredericksburg, VA) newspaper:

Samuel Hicks

cpollard2010 — 2013-03-04 02:18:54Z

I am searching for info on Samuel Hicks from Spotsylvania
He married Maria D. Pollard from Jessamine County, Kentucky
on Oct. 9th,1828.
Can anyone tell me about his family?
Thanks
C Pollard

Re: John and Amelia Dobbins

jncuster1 — 2013-02-14 23:31:16Z

Is John Dobbins related to Dennis Dobbins, are they brothers?

Re: Land Grant research

rhjrabney — 2013-01-24 14:57:04Z

Abraham & Dannette Abney and/or their father Dannette, Sr. (sometimes spelled Dannit or Danet).

Re: Land Grant research

1mercury_1 — 2013-01-24 14:39:04Z

What is the name of the ancestor you are searching for?

Re: Land Grant research

1mercury_1 — 2013-01-23 01:48:46Z

Probably so. Even from the 1940s the names of the roads have changed.

Re: Land Grant research

rhjrabney — 2013-01-17 22:35:15Z

Bought a Virginia topo map. I am guessing the area is near the Lake Anna Winery? Is there another name for the "Main Road"?

Re: Land Grant research

1mercury_1 — 2013-01-16 00:42:02Z

Hi:
I found an 1820 map of Spotsylvania Co. with names of rivers, people, taverns, mills, etc. I did find the North Fork of the North Anna River in the SW corner of the map on the Orange Co. side of Spotsy.

The map is located at:
http://carmichael.lib.virginia.edu/collection/maps/spotsylva...

Will keep looking. Hope this helps in some way.
LL

Re: Land Grant research

rhjrabney — 2013-01-15 23:51:05Z

Info that I have is: St. Geo parish, on N. side the N. Anna river, adj. Cpt. Will Sumter on NE sie of the Main Rd. What general area of the county would I find this land?

Re: Land Grant research

1mercury_1 — 2013-01-15 22:31:31Z

Hi:
Some of it is online. You can go to the new Spotsy website for the link. The new website is:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaspotsy/

I can search around for you as well.
LL

NEW SPOTSY CO VA WEBSITE ADDRESS

1mercury_1 — 2013-01-15 22:21:49Z

Sorry I forgot to add the new website address:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaspotsy/

Thanks,
LL

NEW SPOTSY CO VA WEBSITE ADDRESS

1mercury_1 — 2013-01-15 22:21:30Z

Sorry I forgot to add the new website address:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaspotsy/

Thanks,
LL

Re: Dr. John Newton Garnett

1mercury_1 — 2013-01-15 22:20:13Z

Hi:
Depending on how old Lissie is, she may have gotten married and changed her last name. There are Garnetts in Caroline Co., Spotsy Co., & Stafford Co. Falmouth is in Stafford Co. I have posted a map of the historical plantations in Spotsy Co on the new website

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vaspotsy/

You could check there to see if there is a Fleetwood plantation shown.

What is the relationship between the Bell family and the Garnett family. It would seem strange that Bell daughters would be allowed to move clear across the country with another family not related?

I'll check around to see what I can found out for you.
LL

NEW SPOTSYLVANIA COUNTY VA GENEALOGY WEBSITE

1mercury_1 — 2013-01-15 22:14:12Z

Hello:
I took over the old Spotsy website and am trying to add more information and update its appearance to make it more interesting. If anyone has anything to add or is willing to look up items for people let me know at:
leslynlang1@gmail.com

Thanks

Re: FRANCIS WHITE and LEAH DURRETT

junerp37 — 2012-12-29 03:46:16Z

I am a direct descendant of Francis White & Leah Durrett. There is documentation for her parents, but none that I have found for their marriage. Francis' original will is in the courthouse in Abbeville, SC. Their daughter was Judith Elizabeth Whiteb born 10 Oct 1783 in Virginia, died 1865 in Oak Grove, Marshall Co., MS. Her dauhghter Sarah Leah Eddins born 1802 in Abbeville Co., SC died 31 Aug 1881 in Woodruff Co., Ark. is my ggg grandmother. The Durretts were Huguenots. I'm going to try there next to document their marriage. I can't go any further with this line until their marriage is documented. Any help would be appreciated.

Re: Matilda ALLSUP marriage to Warfield COATES (b. Spotsylvania)

Gardengreens — 2012-12-11 20:05:56Z

My real inquiry was on behalf of a friend, and you may know him, as name is Aaron, if you are Bruce. :)

But, if not, please tell me anyway, and I will tell my friend. This is his family.

heatherdurian@yahoo.com

Re: Matilda ALLSUP marriage to Warfield COATES (b. Spotsylvania)

be4922rp — 2012-12-11 19:43:30Z

I have info about your query

bruce

The Nichol's Family

vahockey — 2012-12-04 20:37:45Z

While walking throug my woods in Spotsylvania,Virginia, I happened along some grave markers. The main marker was ingraved in marble and read "The Nichol's Family" 1816-1902. I am seeking for my information on this family.

Re: Dannett Abney, wife Mary Lee and family

rhjrabney — 2012-11-23 02:06:30Z

Debbie, did you find any additional records for our Dannett? Hope to visit the area soon.

Land Grant research

rhjrabney — 2012-11-21 17:33:14Z

Where are Spotsylvania colonial land grant records located? County or State? Are grants/plats on line?

Kinkead Run

willow703 — 2012-10-29 16:13:44Z

A 1734 patent to David Kinkead for 660 acres in Spotsylvania Co. says, "in the Goard[gourd] vine fork, beginning & extending at the mouth of a branch of Kinkead run". Looking for the location of both of these geographic features.

John and Amelia Dobbins

sharonmitchell63 — 2012-10-19 00:34:29Z

Lived in Spotsylvania Co Virginia. Looking for any info after 1880, census, death etc.

Matilda ALLSUP marriage to Warfield COATES (b. Spotsylvania)

Gardengreens — 2012-10-11 00:15:16Z

I'm looking for the marriage of Matilda Allsup to Warfield Coates, likely in Spotsylvania VA. Matilda was born in Maryland in about 1835. They had numerous children including Bettie Coates who married George McGoines and moved to Washington DC and Samuel Coates who died in the early 1900s in Fredericksburg VA. Any information would be appreciated about this family. They are believed to be of color based on their descendants.

Re: Moffatt &c. vs Mortimer - Unlawful detention of slaves 1805

criley6633 — 2012-07-14 00:44:32Z

I could not get the link on this posting to work. I am researching Robert Moffet Morris (1823-1865) from the Culpepper and Orange County area. He married first, Lucy Craig and second,Mary Eliabeth Herron. Hoping to find siblings and parents. He is my brick wall. Thanks ahead for any clues. Claudia Redmond riley

William Neale

KCleverdon — 2012-07-12 14:56:55Z

I'm researching the William Neale genealogy. He received a land grant along the Rapidan River in 1728. Any information about him would be greatly appreciated. His wife was Mary and son, Charles.

Re: PETER HICKS

pipervic — 2012-06-08 00:11:38Z

Dear Gary,
No progress made here. In studying the Hicks of Spottsylvania Co. Va. I find the following

a James Hicks b. ca 1750, who is said to be a father of Thomas S. Hicks b. 1771, Thomas married to Lucy Alsop. (Elizabeth Pendleton's mother was an Alsop....)

James is said by one rootsweb contributor to have married a second time to Elizabeth Harris, (sister to Thomas's mother Mary Harris) but no children are given.

The 1790 & 1800 tax lists of Spotsylvania Co. show only a
Peter Hicks. Most researchers are giving his date of birth as 1769, which I believe would be a little too young to be a father of our Joseph Hicks.

Lastly the 1810 census lists of Spotsylvania reflect the following;

1810 Virginia Census Index Hicks
Joseph Spotsylvania
00100-10100-01

Andrew Spotsylvania
00110-00100-01

Peter Spotsylvania
31210-21010-01

Thomas Spotsylvania
23020-31010-09

I wish I had a definitive answer, but I do not....

Sincerely,
Vicki Piper

Re: Gavis Family

1_Otis101 — 2012-05-10 17:51:10Z

I went to school with them Peter was in my class I also new Mark and Chris

Will Book Index Look-up

Teaberry35 — 2012-04-04 23:27:14Z

Will Book A, 1722 - 1749 c, [xiv] index, p. 1-94 (Orders, 1722 - 1724); [xi] index, p. 1-515, unpaged duplicate index, (Will Book A, 1722 - 1749, follows p. 94)
26 ILL Will Book B, 1749 - 1759 c, [xxvii] index, [1], 547 p.follows p. 94]

Does any kind soul have access to the above Spotsylvania Co
will books, who can do any Index check for me? I'm looking
for any mention of a Sarah MNU, who married John Adam LINK and would be listed as an heir.
I will order the film if I can determine if there's a hit.
Thanks. Charlie Weaver, Winston-Salem, NC
patchas@triad.rr.com 336-765-96

Demetrio Panone 1997 obiti from Spotsylvania

oldohioschools — 2012-03-27 02:56:14Z

I am looking for the obituary of Demetrio Panone who died Dec. 17, 1997 in Spotsylvania, VA.

Thank you!

John Davis b. ca 1680 in Spotsylvania, VA

susanrobbins100 — 2012-03-23 21:09:37Z

I'm looking for info. on John Davis, which is like trying to find a needle in a haystack! There are trillions of them!! My John was b. around 1680 in Spotsylvania, VA and d. 4June1734 there. I have that he was b. in St. Marks Parish, but haven't been able to find him. His wife's name was Elizabeth ______. Their children were John Jr., Joanna, William, Joseph, Matthew (my direct line ancestor), Elinor, and Jonathan. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Catherine Long - b 1829 Spotsylvania

ritchsgirl — 2012-03-13 05:25:01Z

Seeking any information with regards to Catherine Long - b 12 October 1829, Spotsylvania, VA.
This information was found in the Civil War Pension record for her husband, John Ritchie.
The birth date was also confirmed in the bible of her youngest brother, Jasper Newton Long.
We know that Catherine Long b 1829 is the daughter of Thomas D Long and Mary Bond, who married 8 July 1822, Louisa Co, VA.
children
Eliza Ann b 19 June 1823
Richard H - b 05 August 1825
( according to his Civil War enlistment papers born in Orange Co, VA)
Mary Jane Long - b 15 November 1827
Catherine b - 12 October 1829, Spotsylvania, VA
John Thomas Long b 28 August 1831 - VA
=========
We know that sometime between 1831 and 1833 -
Thomas D Long and Mary Bond moved to KY.
Confirmed that they lived in Warren Co, KY in 1837 by the marriage of their oldest daughter, Eliza Ann.
Then by marriage of son Richard H in 1844, Warren Co, KY.
==============

Based on the fact that Thomas D Long and Mary Bond married in Louisa Co, VA - they may have stayed in that area, although no record has been found or they may have gone to wherever Thomas D Long was from.
I am assuming at this time, with 2 children born in Orange and Spotsylvania, that they stayed in that area. Perhaps with family members of Thomas D Long's, but, we have been unable to determine Thomas's parentage or any siblings.
I am also guessing that with 5 children in tow, moving from VA to KY was not an easy move for the family and am assuming that they went to where there was family.
We have recently done a dna test on the ftdna site on the Long dna surname project and it appears that it takes us back somewhere toward Brumfield Long, - but no records have shown just how.
If anyone can assist with this I would be extremely grateful.
Please feel free to email me direct < rplong@comcast.net >

William & Frances Wright of Orange County, VA

rngrant — 2012-03-04 19:12:44Z

Dear List,

The following deed was recorded in Pike County, Missouri, at Deed Book G, page 93, even though it relates to property of William Wright located in Orange County and Spotsylvania County, Virginia. Since it lists the family of William and Frances Wright, I thought others might find it of interest in their research. For convenience of reference, I will post this on the Wright, Orange, and Spotsylvania lists.

Robert N. Grant
15 Campo Bello Court
Menlo Park, CA 94025
RNGrant@grantandgordon.com

Pike County, Missouri
Deed Book G/93

"Know all men by these presents that I William Wright of Orange county state of Virginia for and in consideration of the natural love and affection which I bear and have for my wife Frances Wright and my children Alexander Wright Robert Wright, Joshua Wright, Lucy Wright, Frances Wright Mary Ann Wright, Sarah Wright, Larkin Wright, Washington Wright and Susan Kinzer wife of Tureman Kinger, as well as for the further consideration of five dollars to me in hand paid by my said wife Frances Wright and the said children, Alexander Wright, Robert Wright, Joshua Wright, Lucy Wright, Frances Wright, Mary Ann Wright Sarah Wright, Larkin Wright, Washington Wright and Susan Kinzer, at or before the ensealing and delivery of these presents the receipt whereof is hereby acknowledged, have given and granted and by these presents do give and grant to my daughter Lucy Wright one negro girl by the name of Big Emma and to my daughter Francis Wright one negro girl by the name of Julia and to my daughter Mary Ann Wright one negro girl by the name of little Emma and their future increase, free from the claim or claims of all and every person or persons whatsoever - and I hereby lend to my said wife Frances Wright for her own separate and exclusive use (with the reservation hereafter made) during her natural life all the ballance of my estate both real and personal consisting of one tract of land lying in the counties of Orange and Spotsylvania adjoining the lands of Richard Richards Jr. and others containing two hundred and twenty eight acres more or less one tract of land lying in Orange county adjoining the lands of George Quisenberry and others containing two hundred and eighty acres more or less, one tract of land lying in said county of Orange adjoining the lands of Hezekiah Richards and others containing one hundred and thirty six acres more or less one tract of land lying in the fork of the Lawyers and Pamunky roads in said County of Orange formerly owned by Mason S. Lancaster containing 75 or 80 acres more or less One tract of land lying in said county of Orange (on which I now reside) on the old mountain and Catharpin roads containing thirty three 1/3 acres more or less being the land I purchased from George Herndon and one other tract of land which I purchased from Peter Goolnik lying in said county of Orange on the South side of the old mountain road adjoining the lands of Benjamin Wright and others containing one hundred and forty eight 3/4 acres more or less each and every one of the said tracts of land more particularly described in the deeds of conveyance made to me and of record in the Clerks office of the County court of Orange and the following slaves Nace Prince Dick Betty, Charlotte John Lacounce and all their future increase with all my other personal estate consisting of one wagon, one cart, plantation utensils stock of horses, cattle hogs and sheep, household and kitchen furniture corn fodder hay oats &c. and for the consideration first above named I give and grant and doth give and grant unto my said children Alexander Wright, Robert Wright, Joshua Wright, Lucy Wright, Frances Wright, Mary Ann Wright, Sarah Wright, Larkin Wright, Washington Wright and Susan Kinzer all of the above named property both real and personal which I have lent unto my said wife Frances Wright and the increase to be sold by trustees hereafter named) after the death opf my said wife Frances Wright and myself and to be divided among my said children in such a manner so that each one shall receive an equal part or portion of all my estate, as I have heretofore given to some of my children property &c with which I have charged them and they must account for the same in the general division free from the claim or claims of all and every person or persons whatsoever reserving and intending in each and every above named for the aforesaid property both real and personal to remain as it is at the present time for the separate use of my said wife Frances Wright and so to remain until after my decease provided that I am the longest liver, and that the family be supported out of the estate as heretofore or formerly until such time that it falls into the hands of trustees hereafter named to be held by them reserving before and after the death of my said wife Frances Wright, for myself only the necessary lodging clothing and board for my support and comfort each and every year during my life with such attention as may be necessary in the decline of life and I hereby appoint Richard Richards Jr. and my son Washington Wright Trustees to carry the above into effect. In witness where I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 10th day of October the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty six.

Acknowledged in the William Wright
presence of

At a monthly court held for the county of Orange at the Courthouse on monday the 23rd of January 1837. This deed from William Wright to Frances Wright Alexander Wright & others was this day acknowledged in open court by the said William Wright and ordered to be recorded.

Teste
Reynolds Chapman Clk

A copy Teste Reynolds Chapman Clk

Filed for record 22d January 1840.

Attest, M. F. Noyes Recorder."

Mr. Todd and McCoy or Coyle near Fall Hill?

bamannandpoyner1 — 2012-03-01 23:41:48Z

Does anyone know of a Todd and a MCCoy or Coyle living near the "Fall Hill" property in the mid to late 1700's. There are two house symbols on a 1779 map of the Fall Hill area that appear to read Mr. Todd and Mr. McCoy?

Dr. John Newton Garnett

BVBelle — 2012-02-07 22:55:14Z

In a letter dated Jan 1860, the writer, living in Falmouth, VA, states "...poor Lissie has to go as a teacher in Dr. GARNETTE's family..."
Lissie would have been the daughter of Alexander and Virginia (KIGER) BELL.
Alexander BELL, born 1799, and Virginia KIGER, born 1815, Stafford Co., VA, were married in 1835, Falmouth, Stafford Co., VA.
In 1839 they were living in Culpeper Co., VA, in their home "Fleetwood."
By 1850 they are on the Eastern District, Spotsylvania Co., VA, census:
BEALE, Alexander, 51, farmer, $2,000 real estate, VA
", Virginia, 35, VA
“, Alex, 11, VA
“, Hester E., 9, VA
“, Robt H., 2, VA
Perhaps Lissie is a nickname for Elizabeth, and perhaps the E. after Hester stands for Elizabeth. I can find a Dr. Garnett and his family in Culpeper Co. in 1850 and then 1860, 1870, and 1880 in Missouri.
I can't find Hester E. 'Lissie' BELL after 1850. It seems feasible to me that she did indeed go with Dr. Garnette's family to MO b/c her younger sister ended up marrying someone from Kansas City, MO.
Does anyone familiar with this Dr. Garnett have any clues as to what happened to Hester 'Lissie' BELL?

Re: Samuel Moore d, 2 Feb. 1725/6 m. Rachel?

cra456 — 2012-02-05 01:45:08Z

could you tell me how your family connects to Berryman Hicks Burnett who was my great great grandfather.

Lois Burnette Campbell
lacampbell54@gmail.com

Jeremiah Stevens born abt 1708 VA

jimapalooza — 2012-01-26 22:07:33Z

I am looking for any and all information on Jeremiah Stevens, born abt 1708 in either Gloucester or Spotsylvania VA. He is the Father of John and James Stevens who were sent to live with Henry Johnson (or Johnston)in 1773. I am particularly interested in what happened to his two youngest boys when they grew up. I think his son is the same James Stevens who married Mary Bird Goodloe. If so I would also greatly appreciate any information on them as well.

Jeremiah Stevens born abt 1708 VA

jimapalooza — 2012-01-26 22:06:54Z

Re: PETER HICKS

ghicks45 — 2012-01-09 18:23:38Z

Joseph Hicks is my great great grandfather and have not found information on his father. My father's name was Joseph as was his father's. Have you had success.
I would be glad to share any information. I can be contacted at ghicks@ruraltel.net.

Re: John Waller Tombstone (d. 1754 - 1st Clerk of Spotsylvania)

qbee123 — 2011-12-21 16:55:31Z

I'm the one who posted those.

Re: John Waller Tombstone (d. 1754 - 1st Clerk of Spotsylvania)

mercur81 — 2011-12-21 11:11:11Z

your shou;ld check out the FindAGrave.com memorials

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=58...

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=82...