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Re: Wise and Robinson families

rfpickett34 — 2013-06-16 01:40:56Z

Do you know any more on Jim Wise and Judy Fields?

Judy Fields is the daughter of
Name: 2nd Lieutenant RT FIELDS CSA
Sex: Male

Individual Facts
Birth 1830 Virginia, United States
Military 1861–1865 (about age 31–about 35) 72nd Regiment, Virginia Militia (Russell County), War of Northern Aggression
Census 1880 (about age 50) Moccasin, Russell, Virginia, United States

Marriages/Children
1. Mrs ( -1880)
Children Louisa FIELDS (1853- )
Judy FIELDS ( - )
Rebecca J "Becky" FIELDS (1863- )
Lilbern FIELDS (1866- )
Edith E FIELDS (1868- )
Sally FIELDS (1870- )
Margaret FIELDS (1876- )

Notes
Notes: 2nd Lieutenant RT FIELDS CSAMilitary (1861–1865): 72nd Regiment, Virginia Militia (Russell County)Name: R. T. FieldsName Note:Also Known As Name: B. T. FieldsAlso Known As Note:Event Type: Military ServiceMilitary Beginning Rank: Second LieutenantMilitary Beginning Rank Note:Military Final Rank: Second LieutenantMilitary Final Rank Note:Military Side: ConfederateMilitary Side Note:State or Military Term: VirginiaMilitary Unit: 72nd Regiment, Virginia Militia (Russell County)Military Unit Note:Military Company: -Military Company Note:Note:Affiliate Publication Title: Index to Compiled Service Records of Confederate Soldiers Who Served in Organizations From the State of Virginia.Affiliate Publication Number: M382Affiliate Film Number: 19GS Film number: 881413

Re: Looking for: Slate, Mattie

schallkl — 2013-06-05 16:49:43Z

I am related to Mattie Helton Slate. Her sister Sarah Helton Jackson was my great grandmother. Sarah's daughter M. Jackson was my grandmother.

Re: JOHNSTON

brettc14 — 2013-06-03 13:21:46Z

I have info on this line if you are still looking.

Re: John J. McAvoy

sherry_justice7 — 2013-05-30 18:55:33Z

Not sure if you received answer to your question, but John McAvoy was Mayor of Lebanon, VA. There is a street named McAvoy inLebanon, which is where they lived. I have been searching for his daughter, Teresa and have been unable to locate her. Do you have any information re Teresa McAvoy? We were best friends in high school and I'd like to contact her. Hope my information helps you. Thanks!

Re: Wise and Robinson families

shirfields_1 — 2013-05-29 23:44:44Z

Your grandfather's (William H. Wise) brother, Frank Wise, married Margaret (Mag) Fortner, daughter of William Winton and Willie Jane Pegram Fortner. His sister Lucy Wise married Charles Fortner, son of William Winton and Willie Jane Pegram Fortner. Frank. Margaret, and Charles are buried in the Fortner/Wise Cemetery located on farm property owned by descendants of Frank and Margaret. The
farm is on a road known as Wise Hollow in Russell County.

Re: 1900-1910 Death record

krkestner — 2013-05-28 11:21:09Z

If you have access to ancestry, you might try contacting the person who submitted this tree.

http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/19416757/person/18895324292?s...=

or

http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/8473749/person/235823299?ssrc=

He has a gravestone picture in Damascus, Wash Co VA, with a death date of 1909.

Re: 1900-1910 Death record

bouledeneige — 2013-05-28 02:32:34Z

There was a newspaper in the Lebanon area of that timeframe, as I recall - Mr. Michael A. Dye can tell you about it... he has read some deaths from it. An example from RCV Deaths:

Campbell, Joel R. – d. 8 Jan 1912 (Lebanon News, 12 Jan 1912)

Re: 1900-1910 Death record

samuelhcampbell1 — 2013-05-28 01:16:21Z

Jack,

I Have Tried the BRISTOL HERALD COURIER , " NO LUCK " !!!!

Sam Campbell

Re: Wise and Robinson families

rfpickett34 — 2013-05-27 23:59:41Z

They are buried in Shipley Cemetery, Bristol, TN
First Generation

1. William H WISE was born on 7 Jan 1895 in Russell County, Virginia, United States. He died on 7 Jul 1964 at the age of 69 in Sullivan, Tennessee, United States.

William H WISE and Margaret Ellen ROBINSON were married on 16 Oct 1920 in Russell County, Virginia, United States. Margaret Ellen ROBINSON was born on 7 Sep 1892 in Russell County, Virginia, United States. She died on 19 Jun 1964 at the age of 71 in Sullivan, Tennessee, United States.

William H WISE and Margaret Ellen ROBINSON had the following child:

+2 i. Dorothy Jean WISE, born 1 Jan 1935, Russell County, Virginia, United States.

Second Generation

2. Dorothy Jean WISE (William H-1) was born on 1 Jan 1935 in Russell County, Virginia, United States.

Gilbert Bruce MORRELL, son of Edgar Lee MORRELL and Lucille SMITHSON, was born on 10 Aug 1930 in Sullivan, Tennessee, United States.

Gilbert Bruce MORRELL and Dorothy Jean WISE had the following children:

+3 i. Eddie MORRELL, born 12 Nov 1951; married Nancy .
+4 ii. Lois MORRELL, born 20 Jun 1953; married Paul NIXON.
5 iii. Rex Allen MORRELL was born on 21 May 1955. He died on 20 Jun 2001 at the age of 46 in Bristol, Bristol (city), Virginia, United States.
6 iv. Michael B "Mouse" MORRELL was born on 17 Apr 1956 in Bristol, Bristol (city), Virginia, United States. He died on 20 May 2013 at the age of 57 in Johnson City, Washington, Tennessee, United States.
7 v. James MORRELL was born on 4 Apr 1957. He died Drowned in 1978 at the age of 21.
+8 vi. Dennis Dean MORRELL, born 7 Jan 1959, Bristol, Bristol (city), Virginia, United States; married Patty June FLEENOR, 28 Mar 1977.
9 vii. Betty Jean MORRELL was born on 15 Sep 1961.
10 viii. Wiley MORRELL was born on 19 Oct 1963.
+11 ix. Terry MORRELL, born 9 Aug 1966; married Sherry .
12 x. Jerry MORRELL was born on 9 Aug 1966.

Re: 1900-1910 Death record

bouledeneige — 2013-05-27 22:25:32Z

HI - You'll likely have to go to the published area newspapers in the area of his death as the commonwealth suspended birth/death registration between Jun 1896 and May 1912. Jack

Re: Harrison,William A.

Benita448 — 2013-05-24 07:52:35Z

Hello, I know they altered and changed
Their names back then.I ran into the
Same dilemma. I just happened to
Get lucky and a david Harrison was
Related and had the correct name.
I wish you the best of luck.happy
Searching :) .....

Re: Harrison,William A.

mrbil1 — 2013-05-24 04:44:56Z

Greetings all,
This is my first time on this list.
My name is William A. Harrison, and obviously NOT the person who has been the focus of this thread.
I'm attempting to break through my Harrison "brick wall".
Here is what I have collected.
My ggf was William Henry Harrison (so he said!) b. 22 Jan 1846 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co, PA (so he said).
ALL records I have located prior to his obit contained info provided by HIM or his wife.
He enlisted in the Civil War from Clark Co, IN during Dec 1863.
He married Sarah Lydia Stoner (1843-1924) in Otto, Clark Co, IN on 9 Mar 1864, apparently prior to reporting for duty. He served 18 months.
Returned to Clark Co, IN & fathered 10 children there. Had 2 more in Trimble Co, KY.
Family is in the 1870 Census of Bethlehem Twp, Clark Co, IN. Wm, wife Sarah & 3 children.
Family is in the 1880 Census of Washington Twp, Clark Co, IN. Wm, Sarah & 8 children.
Family is in the 1900 Census of Hanover Twp, Jefferson Co, IN. Wm, Sarah & 2 children.
Wm & Sarah are found in the 1910 Census of Jackson Twp, Tippecanoe Co, IN living with their Daughter, Lydia, her husband, Thomas Banta, and their 3 children.
Died 12 Sep 1916 in North Madison, Jefferson Co, IN, and is buried in the Fairmount Cem there. I have his obit, a photo of him, his wife, and both grave markers.
I do NOT know who his parents or any siblings are.
NONE of the records that have been found by me or cousins have verified where he was born, or when, or who any members of his parent's family are.

If you recognize any of the above information as belonging to a missing Harrison family member, PLEASE contact me!

I fully recognize the possibility that, according to "family tradition tales" that have been passed down through the years, my ggf MAY have altered his birth name from something else to William Henry Harrison. Hence his birth date and location (which he provided for all known records) need to be questioned also.

I have submitted DNA samples and have not received ONE Harrison match.

Re: Harrison,William A.

Benita448 — 2013-05-23 06:05:55Z

Hello, im sorry I didn't reply until years later.I had
The name of my g.g.grandfather wrong.he was
Jonas axley Harrison d.o.b.9/12/1856.d.o.d 2/4/1939. Married.Louisa Ellen McFadden.born abt.1864
D.o.d about 1936.
Jonas parents were . Aaron amos Harrison.born abt.
1829.death unknown. Married. Elizabeth Kimberlin
D.o.b.1/15/1833.death unknown.
Thank you for the info you gave me.

Re: Harrison,William A.

Benita448 — 2013-05-23 05:44:54Z

Hello, im sorry it's been years since I've been able
To get on here.I did find out the parents of william
Axley Harrison. Samuel h.Harrison who came
From franklin county, Va in the 1820s and went to
Russel county, Va.he was a blacksmith.his wife was
Elizabeth (polly) Hail we heard she was a witch.she
Died in 1853.
I haven't done any research on them as of yet.my
New email is BenitaKnows13@yahoo.com
Take care.

1900-1910 Death record

samuelhcampbell1 — 2013-05-19 19:05:10Z

I Am looking for the Death Record of James Henry Campbell Between 1900-1910 . His Parents were Fountain & Clarinda Campbell & Widow Was Elizabeth ( Betty ) Ann Campbell .

James H. Campbell was on Russell County, VA. 1900 Census & His Widow Elizabeth ( Betty ) Ann Campbell Is On the 1910 Russell County, VA. Census As a widow .

William Vaughn b. 1789

dharmaofatisha — 2013-05-13 04:02:45Z

I am doing research on a possible ancestor....name of William Vaughn, born in Russell County 1789 as listed on this genealogy site:
http://timcdfw.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I371&...

his parents are listed as William Vaughn of Wales, and Fereby Benton a Cherokee Indian. I am trying to ascertain literally any thing, as he may have moved to Burke County North Carolina in the 1800s, or that may be a totally different William Vaughn.

also contact me at angkorday2 at yahoo dot com. many thanks!

Re: Tryon Gibson 1790s

bradjackman1 — 2013-05-09 16:56:09Z

Just found another little hint I thought I'd add:

Kevin Daniel states that he believes Margaret's maiden name might have been Riley, because two of his confirmed sons gave their sons that middle name.

Just realized that Caroline Braton Gibson (a possible daughter) also gave a son that middle name:

William Riley Vivian, b. 7 Sep 1852, Goliad, Goliad, TX.

Caroline Braton Gibson's parents are very likely John T. Gibson and Margaret "Peggy" Givens. The question remains, is John T. Gibson the same person as Tryon Gibson?

Re: zaddock ring

scarlson83 — 2013-05-07 20:32:15Z

Z. Ring was my 3rd great grandfather through Eugene Ring. He was married to Sarah Jane Griffin. Any info on Sarah Jane Griffin?

Re: Blairs

SusanJackson6436 — 2013-05-03 01:22:02Z

Trying to find info on a Thomas J blair,with a wife Mary,died in Clinton,Ohio in 1919..and resided according to Ohio census,w/her nephew Clifton dillingham,thanks..Susan Jackson

Re: Ancestors of Edward Dolan Kernan Cooper

LeonardMT86 — 2013-04-15 18:42:58Z

My husband is the ggg grandson of George WAshington RINER and Jane Puckett of Russell Co Va. Their children were M.Thomas, Rebecca Jane, George Newton (our lineage), Margaret Ann, William G, Nancy C, Virginia and Ida L. I would share what I have with anyone. I am ready to give up finding their burial place. I hope someone can help me with this. Thanks!

Re: New Documentation on Glade Hollow Fort Location

history841 — 2013-04-10 04:30:40Z

My entering grant data for land grants issued for what is now Washington, Lee, Scott and Russell Counties, is only about 50% complete. It's a work-in-progress, and my mapping tends to only cover localities that I am interested in. So it may never be 100% complete.

Nonetheless, there are many thousands of names/dates/places entered to date. So I hope to post an everyname index by the end of the summer. I will also post info on how to obtain a printed plat map for each name you indicate. Due to the voluminous time that has gone into entering and plotting this data, and the resources needed to generate/print the maps, it will be a fee-for-service.

I will post the info when it is available to this board and several others. I also hope to have much of the index and some of the plats on a web site by then. Stay tuned.

Re: Gilbert, james, john c. rufus

edyegilbert69 — 2013-04-04 01:09:07Z

Rufus married 2 Mary's I have a marriage certificate on one or both of them. The 1st Mary was a duty. her mother was a Johnson, I think.

Re: New Documentation on Glade Hollow Fort Location

dennisfieldsjaxfl — 2013-04-03 15:08:49Z

Thanks history841!

I see Richard Field(s) land on your map. I'd love to see more Fields land mapping. I can be reached at dennisjaxfl@att.net

Re: New Documentation on Glade Hollow Fort Location

history841 — 2013-04-03 02:18:09Z

See attached images, for my WAG [maybe not .. time will tell] on the location of Glade Hollow Fort. There is a 1958 era topo map with a number of my Deedmapper grant plots in that area superimposed on it, with verifiable anchor points.

You will note the supposed fort site is highlighted by an arrow on the graphic image. I believe it was sited on a slight eminence which is now on the northwest side of the entrance area to Technology Drive in Lebanon. The second image reveals shows the satellite view of this side of the main street on the east side of Lebanon. Regrettably, it also shows there is a commercial building of some type right on that location. This presents some challenges to further verification, since it is no longer farm land.

My reasoning for this location takes into account a number of factors: the available historical writings, the topography, and the tactics and nature of Indian warfare, and the location of the land grants. Interestingly, the spot is not right on the Robert Dale -> William Gilmer grant, but is next to it, and lies within an acceptable range of error for surveying accuracy at the time.

The longer blue line radiating from the fort towards just west of South, that points to a high point on a ridge, is gauged within the deedmapping softare at 3/4 a mile. That should be ring a bell, to anyone familiar with Carr's account.

The attached plot map is the result of nearly a week's research, data entry, and plot alignment. Yes, it probably does not reflect every grant on the outer edges. But there are enough of them to show that the area that is now Lebanon, was clearly considered to be "Glade Hollow" at the time and at least into the 1790s. Several other grants outside the size of the image, also confirm this, which date back into the early 19th century.

I am not familiar with local history and lore thereabouts. So I don't know when the local inhabitants first distinguished between the town, and the part of the "modern" Glade Hollow which lies just northwest of the the area depicted in the images. This "modern" Glade Hollow was apparently part of the basin enclosed 1) on the north by Copper Ridge, 2) on the south by knobs of Moccasin Ridge and on the east by the "big" Cedar Creek.

Note: As mentioned in another of my posts, I have entered upwards of 20,000 grants and patents into my Deedmapper data files, over the past 20 years. I have had considerable experience with coming to understand the issues of instrument and human error, and the difficulties of projecting measurements taken in three-dimensional terrain, onto two-dimensional maps. (Well, Dorothy, you're not in (flat) Kansas anymore when you arrive in the colonies!)

Re: New Documentation on Glade Hollow Fort Location

GlendaMaphis51 — 2013-03-31 18:18:13Z

I was told my Grandfather Willie C Kiser was a surveyor. I'd love to know if you find anything he has surveyed.

John & Lucy Sykes of Va. Family Reunion

mocountryboy1 — 2013-03-31 15:55:36Z

Come join us for the 15th annual SYKES Family Reunion.
20 July 2013, 11:00 am until ???, at the Community Park on Main St. in Lebanon, Va.
** Again this year we will have the silent auction.(it was a great sucess last year) If you would like to
donate a handcrafted / homemade item for this event, it will be greatly appreciated. All proceeds will go to support the reunion.
** Sharing any of your family pictures is always welcome. A copier will be available for all to use.
** Please bring a covered dish to share (this is what everyone looks forward to)
** We will provide: drinks, water, plasticware, plates, napkins, cups.
** If you play an instrument, please bring it and let's make some music.
** If you know someone who is related to the Sykes family "Please" let them know about the reunion.

We need to get more of the younger folks involved.
** Hope to see you there

Re: New Documentation on Glade Hollow Fort Location

LanieWood100 — 2013-03-30 19:33:41Z

Very nice! Please keep us posted.

Re: New Documentation on Glade Hollow Fort Location

history841 — 2013-03-30 19:22:53Z

I use Direct Line Software's Deedmapper.

It's a "labor of love" {emphasis on LABOR} for my genealogical research. Many counties of SW Va are completed in whole or part. So it's a work-in-progress, but is useful as is.

One or more images are attached to illustrate what it looks like, on several levels.

There are tens of thousands of names/dates/places, etc. Given the amount of effort required to accomplish this, it likely will only be available on a fee-for-service basis.

I will post more info about an index of names, and how to obtain color copies. This will probably be on the main board. Possibly within next six months or so.

Re: New Documentation on Glade Hollow Fort Location

MaxErvin50 — 2013-03-30 19:22:19Z

I would be most interested in your "presentation" when it is finished, as I am sure Tom Rudder and others on the list would be. My email: maxervin at verizon dot net

Re: New Documentation on Glade Hollow Fort Location

history841 — 2013-03-30 18:56:17Z

I have no information behind the locating of the highway marker on Rt 71. But I don't believe that's where the fort was specifically sited.

My "presentation" on it is beyond the scope of a email forum. It will require me at least several pages to cover. I hope to get around to writing up where I believe on-the-ground researchers might {? -- i.e. logs rot} find some evidence of it. Until then, I will say that Glade Hollow is the right section of the ballpark.

Re: New Documentation on Glade Hollow Fort Location

MaxErvin50 — 2013-03-30 17:31:12Z

Thank you for the correction. I agree, the David Calhoun survey was mis-read. Would you agree, however, that the other clues mentioned in the post would indicate that the fort was more likely located in Glade Hollow proper, rather than on route 71 west of Lebanon where the state marker was located. Specifically:

-Gen. Dale’s statement that his family moved to the “forks of the Clinch” and built the stockade fort along with neighbors, one of which was David Calhoun
- Dale’s statement that the Elk Garden fort was 10 miles to the south from the Glade Hollow fort
- Benjamin Sharp’s statement that Elk Garden fort was “10 miles higher up the country” and his mention of the salt petre cave which fits the topography, as does Isaac Crabtree’s mention of the sinkholes along the trace.

Re: New Documentation on Glade Hollow Fort Location

LanieWood100 — 2013-03-30 16:17:06Z

To history 841:
You mention that you have been entering land patents into mapping software. Is this being down for a library. Is there a site we can view your work? If not can you tell me the software you are using? This sounds fantstic. I would love to see where my family owned land.

Re: New Documentation on Glade Hollow Fort Location

history841 — 2013-03-30 03:57:51Z

I was surfing the web regarding Glade Hollow recently, and came across your thesis on the location of Glade Hollow fort.

Based on years of entering over 10,000 VA land patents and grants into mapping software, I have had considerable experience in reading these document images (from LVA).

Your assumption that Calhoun's last bound says "to the FORT Station" is incorrect. The reference that surveyors used on many of the surveys for what they call the "Closing Line" is as follows: "... to the first Station" (The first Station -- not Fort Station -- refers to the beginning point from which the survey lines were run.)

Re: WF Kasefang

MaxErvin50 — 2013-03-30 02:15:17Z

I don't have obit, but have cemetery stone dates from Temple Hill if you need them. We included the William F. Kasefang family in Holbrook on the Clinch since his wife, Mary Maude Minton, was a Holbrook descendant. Can help on that line. maxervin at verizon dot net

Re: Isaac Smith

TJtime1 — 2013-03-29 21:02:24Z

Thank you for your response. I will check, and get back to you, asap.

Re: Isaac Smith

bouledeneige — 2013-03-29 20:49:19Z

Greetings! Was he related to this Isaac Smith from the 1850 Census, Washington Co VA?

HH1479: SMITH, Isaac and Sally JOHNSON: Isaac Smith, 55; Sally, 39; Isaac, 22; Edward, 12; Martha, 9; Harriet, 7; Alfred, 5; Baker, 4; Robert, 2; Parris, 1: (WCV: Edward S. Smith, b. 14 Nov 1837; d. 21 Nov 1914, WCV, 80y 03d, b. WCV, s/o Isaac Smith & Sallie Johnson; See WCV MB11:166:Feb 1854: Sally Johnson, d/o Samuel Johnson mar Isaac Smith.)
Note: Speculative entry for being same Isaac & Sarah Smith)
Isaac Smith , b. c 1801 in Virginia. He mar Sarah __?__ .
I. Martha E. Smith, b. c 1840 in WCV. Mar Jun 27, 1878 in WCV, William C. Whitaker, b. c 1851 in WCV, (s/o Calvin Whitaker and Pheby Helt).
II. Robert V. Smith, b. c 1846 in WCV. Mar May 14 ,1876 in WCV, Sarah Leonard, b. c 1852 in WCV, (d/o Henry & Elizabeth Leonard).
III. George P. Smith, b. c 1849 in WCV. Mar Dec 19, 1875 in WCV, Bettie Droke, b. c 1851 in WCV, (d/o Job K. & Betty Droke).

Re: Patrick family 1750 - 1800's

JTP1967 — 2013-03-28 16:46:34Z

Hello, I am also researching Ezekiel. I have found the same information you discovered. Please send me an email and if you or I find out more, we can exchange data.

I don't have anything on Elizabeth side but I do Daniel. I am connected through Pleasant.

Happy hunting!
James Patrick
jim331967@gmail.com

WF Kasefang

sahawley — 2013-03-27 00:10:54Z

Hello all:

I am looking for an obit for William F. Kasefang who died 3/27/1943 in Dante, Virgina. I have had no luck online finding an obit. I am hoping someone familiar with local papers could give a helping hand.

Thanks

Re: Michael & Nancy Lark family

weazel9 — 2013-03-24 23:11:11Z

I only have that she died in 1890 in Harrison, Kandiyohi, Minnesota and that she lived in Carter co., KY in the 1870s. I have her parents as Michael Lark and Nancy Duncan, however I don't have proof on her death and parents' names. Does your chart list these same parents as well? I would love to see the Lark family chart. Is there any way you could scan it or email it to me? Let me know and I will give you my email address! Thanks

Re: Michael & Nancy Lark family

bobc178 — 2013-03-20 21:03:20Z

Weazel9, have you learned anything else about Martha? I was recently going thru some old papers a few days ago and came across an old family chart that I received in 1997 from a Lark cousin. He said he got his info from the oldest Lark relatives he could find when he made the chart. The chart showed Martha as having married an unknown Harris. I know its not much but could be a clue that we are on the right track.

Bob

Isaac Smith

TJtime1 — 2013-03-17 15:39:55Z

I am looking for information on Isaac Smith who was from Shenandoah county, born around 1757, he came with his wife(we think a Frankie (Frances) Childers, or Sproules, and our family records report that Isaac died in your county in or around 1801. The Smiths had children, William, Nancy, Melvina, Rachel, John H. His widow then married a John Kelley. We don't know if he was from your county, or not, they then moved to Kentucky, where we pick them up. I would appreciate any information you have on this family.

Re: Michael & Nancy Lark family

pherman142 — 2013-03-13 17:39:12Z

In looking back at census records for Michael Lark who married Nancy Duncan, I realized I probably have miscalculated his year of birth as ca 1790. I believe it should be closer to 1784 instead. He and Nancy (at abt age 16/17) COULD have married as early as ca 1808/1809. Peggy

Hopkins Richards and Mary Polly Davis

emd10 — 2013-03-10 01:28:51Z

Does anyone have substantiated concrete Proof that Hopkins Richardson, living in Russell County Virginia, actually married Mary Davis? I am wondering if Mary Davis was a widow and that is not her maiden name. This is based on a Samuel Davis, 3 years old, living with Hopkins and Mary Richardson in the 1850 census. I cannot find a single child's birth/death of Hopkins and Mary with the mother's maiden name listed, unless Mary was also born a Richardson (which is possible but not confirmed).

Please respond if you have knowledge of the marriage of Hopkins and Mary Richardson.

Re: Michael & Nancy Lark family

weazel9 — 2013-03-08 23:18:41Z

I just got Squire's death certificate - sorry it took so long! Squire's mother was indeed "Martha W Lark" (at least it looks like a 'W' to me). It says that she was born in West Virginia, although I'm sure that could mean the Russell county area as well. Squire's father was Johnson Harris, born in North Carolina and Squire was born in Virginia. Squire's wife, Sarah, was the informant for this information. Let me know if you need more info from the certificate. Thanks!

Re: Michael & Nancy Lark family

pherman142 — 2013-03-04 20:33:22Z

Yes, I will contact you through your e-mail address. I mentioned the information Jerry Penley posted, but forgot that it was posted on Genforum, not on this list. For anyone who wants to see his post, you can go to the Lark Family Forum and put "Penley" in the search box and find it.

*****
A little while ago I posted this on GenForum:

Based on the Lark/Larch information posted by Jerry Penley which he found in "History of the Pioneer Families of Missouri" we have this:
John Larch/Lark of Pennsylvania (the patriarch). Children:
1) Christopher - settled on Clinch River in VA
2) Joseph - killed at battle of Tippecanoe
3) Michael - settled on Clinch River
4) John - m. Margaret Long of MD & had 10 children
5) Barbara
6) Jane

Some observations in trying to establish years of birth:
1) In 1820 Christopher Lark was living in Russell Co, VA. He was already aged over 45 on this census, so was born bef. 1775.
2) The battle of Tippecanoe occurred in Nov 1811, so that is when Joseph Lark died. Born when?
3) Michael Lark Sr. on the 1820 Russell Co, VA was aged 26-45, so was born between 1775-1794. I believe he was too young to be the s/o John (the patriarch). Possibly the older Michael was already deceased by 1820...? He would have to be born before abt 1772 to be the father of Michael Lark (b. 1790) who married Nancy Duncan.
4) John's sons: Daniel b. ca 1798 VA was on the 1850 Montgomery Co, MO census and Joseph b. ca 1800 VA was on the 1860 Callaway Co, MO census. One family tree has John Lark b. ca 1765 and this is probably about right.

There are two identifiable children of Christopher Lark:
1) Michael Lark b. 1789 who married Elizabeth Breeding first. After Elizabeth died, Michael married 2nd on 26 Aug 1863 in Scott Co, VA to May A. E. Noles. The marriage record states that Chris & Elizabeth Lark were Michael's parents

2) Catherine Spurgin, wife of Samuel Spurgin, d. on 23 Feb 1853 in Russell Co, VA. Her death certificate says she was b. 1794 in Pennsylvania and was a d/o Christopher & Elizabeth Lark.

**********

Thanks for your reply! I will contact you right away on e-mail. Peggy

Re: Michael & Nancy Lark family

bobc178 — 2013-03-04 20:24:30Z

Peggy: I have some Lark family info gathered , by my uncle Virgil Lark, many years ago from some of the then older members of the Lark family. You say Michael and Nancy had 10 children and I see where you are coming from. The older Larks mentioned above only provided 8 names. I am a direct descentant through Michael and Nancy,s son Alexander b 1832. I would really enjoy seeing what you have found on the Lark family as well as the Jesse Duncan family. If you wish you may contact me by email at bobc@vmmicro.net

Re: Michael & Nancy Lark family

pherman142 — 2013-03-04 19:14:42Z

Thank you for your interest! It's been a few weeks, but I was studying the two Michael Larks and their families to determine who belongs to whom. I've been trying to refresh my memory before I answer this, but here goes. I believe the following census records are my Michael Lark who married Nancy Duncan:

1820 Russell Co, VA
p. 16 (147)(384), line 24 Michael Lark 100010-30010
male b. 1775-1794 Michael (26-45) b. 1790
female b. 1775-1794 Nancy (26-45) b. 1792
female b. 1810-1820 Polly ( u 10) b. ca 1812
male b. 1810-1820 Francis ( u 10) b. ca 1816
female b. 1810-1820 unknown ( u 10) b. ca 1818?
female b. 1810-1820 unknown ( u 10) b. ca 1820?
(Mary "Polly" Plumtree living in Michael & Nancy's 1850 hh)

1830 Russell Co, VA
p. 158, line 2 Michael Lark 0012001-120101
male b. 1780-1790 Michael (40-50) b. 1790
female b. 1790-1800 Nancy (30-40) b. 1792
female b. 1810-1815 Polly (15-20) b. ca 1812
male b. 1810-1815 unknown (15-20) (a spouse of Polly?)
male b. 1810-1815 Francis (15-20) b. ca 1816
female b. 1815-1820 unknown (10-15) b. ca 1818
female b. 1820-1825 unknown ( 5-10) b. ca 1820
male b. 1820-1825 Michael ( 5-10) b. ca 1822
female b. 1825-1830 Nancy ( u5 ) b. ca 1830
(I originally thought the other Michael Lark census in Russell County was my Michael who m. Nancy Duncan, but after comparing with the 1820 and 1840 census records I believe this is the correct one for my Michael.)

1840 Russell Co, VA
p. 7, line 25 Michael Lark 01000001-0010001
male b. 1780-1790 Michael (50-60) b. 1790
female b. 1790-1800 Nancy (40-50) b. 1792
female b. 1825-1830 Nancy (10-15) b. ca 1830
male b. 1830-1835 Alexander( 5-10) b. ca 1832

I am pretty solid on my belief that Polly b. ca 1812, and Nancy b. ca 1830, are their daughters due to the 1850 census records. So that leaves two daughters b. 1815-1820 still unidentified.

I have looked at Sarah A. Lark who married Samuel Spurgeon and moved to Indiana, and think she MIGHT be the female b. 1818, but I'm not sure. So please don't take this and run with it without more proof!

Let's not forget that there was also Christopher Lark on the 1820 Russell Co, VA census. Some of these stragglers could be his descendants. His household was this: 200001-00301
male b. bef 1775 Christopher (over 45)
female b. bef 1775 (over 45)
female b. 1794-1804 (16-26)
female b. 1794-1804 (16-26)
female b. 1794-1804 (16-26)
male b. 1810-1820 ( u 10)
male b. 1810-1820 ( u 10)

Also, don't forget the information posted by Jerry Penley which he found in "History of the Pioneer Families of Missouri" According to information there, the Lark/Larch family would look like this:
John Larch of Pennsylvania (patriarch). Children:
1. Christopher - settled on Clinch River in VA (I believe father of Michael who married Elizabeth Breeding)
2. Joseph - killed at battle of Tippecanoe (Nov 1811)
3. Michael - settled on Clinch River in VA (I believe father of Michael who married Nancy Duncan)
4. John (b. 1770's)- m. Margaret Long of MD & had 10 children (including Daniel b. ca 1798 & Joseph b. ca 1800)
5. Barbara
6. Jane

So, to get back to your post, I am inclined to think that Martha Lark who married Johnson Harris is NOT a d/o Michael Lark who married Nancy Duncan. I realize other people may strongly disagree, but that is okay. We just need to work together to find proof! :)

Have a great day!
Peggy

Re: SARGENT, HART, COMBS, THOMPSON, JACKSON, MILLION

JohnHamilton69 — 2013-03-04 06:29:52Z

Thank you for the advice. I know now that half of the researchers are living in the dark ages. They took the information in Norris Combs' Book as the Bible for the Combs' families. Even Norris or his nephew said take the information with a grain of salt. Other wise you must research what you find. Chapter XX is the best example. William Combs 1740 - 1815 son of Mason Combs is NOT THE FATHER OF William Combs 1777 -1841. From the Combs $Etc research group with my writing included.
Before you read the following; ask yourself if your believe in DNA testing can solve crime. If not do not read the following; if you do believe in DNA testing to solve crimes read on. A crime has been committed against Sarah Ann Million Combs by saying Mason Combs' son William Combs 1740 - 1815 is the husband of Sarah Ann and the Father of William Combs 1777 - 1841.

There is a misconception that William Combs 1740 - 1815 Son of Mason Combs was the Father of William Combs 1777 - 1841 who married Anna Thompson. This error in thinking came from the Combs Book in 1976 only to be corrected in 1996 after researchers found the pension papers of Sarah Ann Million Combs. Sarah stated that her husband died in 1780 from wounds received at the Battle of Brandywine. She was married only once and her son was living in Russell County Virginia. He was born in the year 1777.

Combs &c. Research Footnotes for
"The Combes Genealogy" by Josiah H. Combs
See Special Copyright Restrictions Chapter XX, William Combs, of Russell County, Va. (pp. 108-117)

Page 108. 1. There is a serious error in this chapter; i.e., William COMBS, Jr., b 11 Jan 1777, Stafford Co, VA, d 1841, Russell Co, VA; m Anna THOMPSON (d/o William and Nancy JACKSON Thompson) was not the s/o William & Seth STACY Combs (s/o Mason& Sarah Combs, Sr.), b 28 Nov 1740, Overwharton Parish, Stafford Co, VA, but instead the s/o William& Sarah Ann MILLION Combs, Sr. of Stafford Co, VA. Also note, however, that William COMBS, s/o Mason, was also in Russell Co, VA - as were numerous other early COMBS, and that confusion has raged rampant for years among researchers as to Who's on First.

As noted by the author, the lineage in this chapter was furnished by Frederick Harmon Combs who was not a Russell Co, VA COMBS, and that some of this lineage (in addition to corrections noted herein and/or lineages as documented in the above William COMBS, Jr. report) is incorrect and that additional footnotes will be provided shortly.

Scientific proof came in 2008 with the genetic dna profiles of the descendants of Mason Combs being compared to the genetic dna profiles of descendants of William 1771 - 1841. The results showed that Mason and William Combs 1777 - 1841 were not related. In April 2012 a descendant of the youngest Son Cullen Combs of William and Anna Thompson Combs was tested with Ancestry DNA and Family Tree. The results matched the testing in 2008 and the conclusion was that Mason's son William Combs 1740 - 1815 dna and William Combs 1777 - 1841 dna do not match each other. Simply put, if you descend from Wiliam Combs 1777 - 1841 you do not descend from William Combs 1740 - 1815 and his Father Mason Combs. This would also include Archdale Combs, the Jamestown Combs, and the rest of the English Combs.
Hope this helps. Sarah Ann Million Combs is buried in Edgar Co. Illinois just thirty five miles from my home.
John Hamilton and Doris Hamilton part of the original researchers finding the error in Chapter XX johnmh44@yahoo.com

Re: SARGENT, HART, COMBS, THOMPSON, JACKSON, MILLION

clinchco19 — 2013-03-04 05:00:02Z

Google William Combs and Sarah Ann Million.

Re: SARGENT, HART, COMBS, THOMPSON, JACKSON, MILLION

clinchco19 — 2013-03-04 04:57:05Z

Just Google William Combbs and Sarah Ann Million
and you will get your answer.