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Re: Newton

Posted: 1325050951000
Classification: Query
Surnames: Newton Boeler
You wrote:
"The site has a link to more recent data that claims No. 20153 is the DNA for John Newton of Westmoreland, who was the father of John Newton who died in Stafford County."

I believe you are mistaken. Neither the Newton Surname DNA Project hosted by RootsWeb FreePages nor the linked project data shown at FTDNA indicate that kit# 20153 represents John Newton of Westmoreland. Observe the following:

1. The claimed descent for kit# 20153 is given here at the RootsWeb Project website:

You will note that the claimed descent as given ends with James A. Newton (born about 1758), and that the only "John" given is in generation 4, John William Newton, born 1858. I don't think this is who people mean when they talk of John Newton of Westmoreland.

2. The patriarchs table for the Newton Surname DNA project is given here:

Scroll down to near the bottom, where you will observe John Newton of Westmoreland County, and observe that the "representative count" column for him indicates "0", meaning that no representatives of his have been tested.

3. The FTDNA page is here:

Note that the line concerning the kit given begins this way:

20153 Thomas Newton England R1b1a2 13 23 [the rest of the data follows]

There is no John Newton mentioned AT ALL. Why "Thomas" is there, and not James (or even John) I know not. That field is editable by Alex, and you'd have to ask him.

4. John Newton of Westmoreland is my line. Observe the following page:

That table is a listing of all known (to me) proxy samples for my line. Observe there is no Newton there.

While this John Newton is my line, and I am the FTDNA Administrator for the Newton Surname DNA Project, and I write the webpages for the project which is housed on my site at RootsWeb, I don't see any claims that any participants derive from John Newton of Westmoreland.

Could you provide a more detailed description of why you think the link gives claim that 20153 is the DNA for John Newton of Westmoreland?

Note: This does not mean that Alex Newton, or the James A. Newton given in his claimed descent (see above URL) do NOT descend from John Newton of Westmoreland. It just means that this claim is not represented anywhere on the websites given.

In a separate issue, there is mention of a Family Bible, which is no longer available. I'd like to know what evidence there is that this Bible ever, in fact, existed.
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