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GREEK IMMIGRANTS IN CARBON COUNTY, UTAH

575dpavlos — 2013-04-11 17:06:01Z

Did your Greek ancestors spend some time in Carbon County, Utah?
Visit our Facebook group to share photos and stories of Greek immigrant families. Who knows...you might find a photo of your relative there! :)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/506088379448501/

Re: SCOFIELD MINE DISASTER

rattlesnake2301 — 2013-01-21 07:57:23Z

Hi Liz. I am also researching the Webber lines, and I am branching off of Mathew Webber, born 1796, Neath Wales, who is my fourth great grandfather. Feel free to email me:

Rattlesnake230@yahoo.com

Thanks

Re: Abraham Luoma

willj1111 — 2012-10-23 21:16:43Z

I have seen that article and have actually been to Scofield cemetery a couple of times. The picture is of my grandfather Matt and his father and mother Abraham and Kaisa Luoma and there daughter. My grandfather took my grandmothers last name when they married so he is an Aho. I thank you for your help though

Re: Abraham Luoma

kumeyaayindian — 2012-10-23 18:01:21Z

have u read this ?
http://www.migrationinstitute.fi/articles/026_Koivukangas.pd...

Re: Abraham Luoma

willj1111 — 2012-10-19 16:00:31Z

I did not see the movie but I do know about it. I have even been to Scofield, it is where my father was born and my Grandma died. Thanks for the help though.

Re: Abraham Luoma

kumeyaayindian — 2012-10-18 17:45:00Z

His name is mentioned in a PBS movie.. have you seen that ?
have you seen these links ?
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=Abrah...

Abraham Luoma

willj1111 — 2012-10-18 16:31:28Z

I am looking for any info regarding Abraham Luoma (Iso-Luoma) and his wife Kate. Specifically the time after the Scofield mine disaster in Scofield UT where they lost almost all of their family in an explosion. They then went back to Finland and I would like to know when and where they died and are buried. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I think they might have had one son in Finland also so any info on him would be great!

Descendants of Elizabeth (Russell) Archibald - Reunion Sept 8, 2012

lanaa2000 — 2012-07-19 16:23:28Z

This year is the 150th anniversary of LDS Pionner Elizabeth Russell Archibald's immigration to Utah.

Many people in Utah and Idaho are descended from Thomas and Elizabeth (Russell) Archibald. Thomas Archibald died in Scotland but Elizabeth Russell Archibald came to Wellsville with several of her children. Some went to Idaho and some went to Canada.

A family reunion for all descendants of Elizabeth Russell Archibald is being planned for Saturday, Sept 8, 2012 at the Wellsville, Utah bowery by cousin Brandon Sundeen. He is planning games for the younger children, sharing of family history info for the adults, followed by a memorial service at the Wellsville Cemetery. Food is POT LUCK. Bring your own lunch and all will share what they bring.

If you have any family heirlooms, photos, letters, etc.. pertaining to Elizabeth Russell Archibald or her immediate family, please bring them for viewing.

For more details contact Brandon Sundeen. Phone: 503-396-2178 OR email: brandonsundeen@gmail.com

Please help us get the word out. Pass this information on to all of your extended family so that they may attend if they are interested.

Re: Michele Bergera

FranciosR — 2012-03-03 05:35:09Z

I was wondering if you had found the information you needed. My grandmother, Jennie Ariotti Borla was seriously injured when the wall came down on the family home. All her life she had the scares on her head from the rock wall falling on her. How on earth they lost the case is beyond me.

Re: wanted: Robert Menzies (1857 Scotland-1933)

boabiemenzies — 2011-12-02 16:14:00Z

Rob,
Been searching through old Price newspapers and, rather interestingly, it seems that the Republican Party tried to encourage an E.H. Cotter to run against Robert. Until recently, Cotter had been marshall in Helper and only a few months earlier had relocated to SLC where he was now working with a railroad wrecking crew. Anyway, Cotter seemed reluctant to leave SLC (his widow was still there in the 1940s) and that left RM the only Rep candidate, so he stood unopposed. Then Thomas Kelter (D) whupped him in the general election of autumn 1910. Mind you, Kelter saw off a succession of Republican candidates.

I put this timeline together through reading the newspapers available through the link you sent. Takes time to find stuff, but it's there. Will send a copy of Draft 3 very soon.

Re: wanted: Robert Menzies (1857 Scotland-1933)

boabiemenzies — 2011-11-28 16:58:47Z

Thank you. I appreciate your help a great deal.

Regards,
Robert Menzies.

Re: wanted: Robert Menzies (1857 Scotland-1933)

boabiemenzies — 2011-11-28 16:54:09Z

Wow. These are fantastic links. I'd heard of the sheriff/ constable jobs from the late Leslie Ratliff, but had no concrete evidence. I'm just gobsmacked by all this new information.

I am currently writing a biography of RM with another great-grand-child, Bonnie Snow. Maybe you know her. Anyway, we have just finished a second draft of the bio. She has provided most of the info and has been invaluable. I can fill in some of the gaps over here. (My family has only moved about 8 miles since Robert left in the 1880s!)

Contact me at my email address and I'll forward the bio. It won't have your info in it, but you can see what I have and maybe add/ correct some parts.

Thanks again for these wonderful links,
Robert Menzies
boabiemenzies@hotmail.com

Re: wanted: Robert Menzies (1857 Scotland-1933)

nadtj — 2011-11-28 16:40:57Z

For your reference re: Robert Menzies constable

http://udn.lib.utah.edu/u?/carboncounty,836
http://udn.lib.utah.edu/u?/carboncounty,15336(on ticket for sherriff)
http://udn.lib.utah.edu/u?/carboncounty,15953(Lost election for sherriff)

I am not related.

Re: wanted: Robert Menzies (1857 Scotland-1933)

rgardnerlindon — 2011-11-28 16:33:41Z

Hi, Robert Menzies is my great grandfather through his son James Wilson Menzies. I'd love to learn more of his family in Scotland.

He was a joiner and a carpenter but active in local organizations and politics. He ran for Carbon County sheriff in 1910 on the republican ticket but lost.

There is a useful site with digitized newspapers from Utah,
http://digitalnewspapers.org

There you can do a name search. Robert lived in Summit and Carbon counties, in Coalville, Winterquarters, and Price. He had a son and grandson also named Robert Menzies. Here are some urls:
http://udn.lib.utah.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/carbonco...

http://udn.lib.utah.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/carbonco...

http://udn.lib.utah.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/carbonco...

Re: wanted: Robert Menzies (1857 Scotland-1933)

boabiemenzies — 2011-11-27 10:24:20Z

Hi. Robert Menzies was my great-grandfather's brother. (His name was Thomas Ross Menzies.)

Can I ask where you heard the story about RM being a constable and sheriff? I'm not disputing the veracity of your statement, just wanting to know its source.

Thanks.

ANOTHER Robert Menzies, Glasgow.

Re: Janet Menzies

BonnieHarwick — 2011-11-03 22:09:12Z

I have learned since my 26 Jun 2011 posting that the grave marker photograph was in with family photographs and papers that my mom's first cousin inherited from her dad (Harold Gordon Menzies) ... and he had a lot of photographs that he had from his mother (Celia Blanche [Smith] Menzies). We do not know why "we" have this photograph as we have not been able to trace any of the Menzies in our tree to the Janet and Robert Menzies family tree. We think that someone saw the marker, took a photo, and gave it to "our" ancestors, thinking that there was a close relationship. There may be but we have not found it.

Re: Janet Menzies

boabiemenzies — 2011-11-03 21:15:39Z

Anyone know who owns that plot now? Presuably it was originally a child - "mother" and "father" are written on the top - but they have all passed away and owndership will have been handed down to their children (or grandchildren).

I am also a Robert Menzies. My great-grandfather, Thomas Ross Menzies (1859-1944), was RM's (1857-1933) brother.

Re: Mele/Melo & Aragone/Aragona living in Carbon County

Bofratto1212 — 2011-10-05 21:27:33Z

Hi. I had an ancestor named Dominic Mele married to Chiara (Clara) Spatafore...they lived in Price. Just wondering if there is a connection??? Thanks!

Re: Charlotte Alvord Curtis Elliott & husbands

jbowersusa — 2011-09-08 20:41:17Z

I believe I have quite a bit of info for you about him. However, I have several obligations and will be traveling this month. Could you e-mail me again in Oct-Nov and remind me? I will look up the things that I have. Sorry to be so slow.
Your distant cousin,
JBowers

Re: Peter & Charlotte Elliott +surnames

tellis50 — 2011-08-29 02:04:11Z

I found this thread as I was searching for information on Charlotte Alvord this afternoon. I don't know if you'll see this, but I would love to have any information you have on either her or Lyman Curtis. A picture would be amazing. I am a 3rd great granddaughter. Thanks!!

Re: wanted: Robert Menzies (1857 Scotland-1933)

BonnieHarwick — 2011-07-04 03:44:56Z

Attached:
Robert and Janet Menzies Grave marker, Coalville, UT.jpg

This is in "our" Menzies file ... but I cannot make a connection as to how "our" Menzies may be related to Robert and Janet. Nobody remembers where the 5x7 black-and-white photo came from. It's not the typical thing that would come from an individual's processing of snapshots.

Hope this helps.

thomas/mary alice mills of sunnyside carbon utah

kathleenpennington75 — 2011-07-01 09:44:01Z

moved to the USA in 1907 from Leigh Lancs UK. would love to know more . Children Elsie mills b. 1908 Utah. Alfred H. b.1900 UK and Edith A b.1895.UK.

Re: Janet Menzies

BonnieHarwick — 2011-06-27 18:48:41Z

You're very welcome. I don't know why this photo is in "our" Menzies book ... maybe we are related. Main thing is this: I had the scan of the photo to share with you. My pleasure.

Re: Janet Menzies

rgardnerlindon — 2011-06-27 14:36:25Z

Thank you very much! This is my great grandfather and grandmother. After what my Aunt Lois had to say, I kind of surprised and happy to find them buried in the same spot.

Re: Janet Menzies

BonnieHarwick — 2011-06-27 05:03:58Z

My mom's first cousin took a photo of a Janet and Robert Menzies grave stone and put it in her Menzies genealogy research. To my knowledge, this is not the Robert Menzies that is our ancestor. FYI, the gravestone data is this:
Janet W. Menzies born March 24, 1857, died October 6, 1901.
Robert Menzies born May 13, 1857 and died October 10, 1933.

Re: Janet Menzies

kellyjohnson1956 — 2011-05-27 08:53:21Z

This is exciting information. Robert and Janet were my great-grand-parents. My grandmother was Violet Menzies Johnson. Clarence "Red" Johnson was my dad. I have been trying to find where in the Coalville cemetry they are laid to rest. Does anybody know the graves location?

Re: wanted: Robert Menzies (1857 Scotland-1933)

rgardnerlindon — 2011-04-25 16:12:00Z

I know this reply comes 4 years after the original post; perhaps you will still find it helpful. The Robert Menzies in question is my great grandfather. The other two in the previous post are his son and grandson. Robert Menzies, b. 13 May 1857 Glsgow Scotland d. 10 Oct 1933. His parents were
RRobert Menzies b. 1823 Glasgow, d. 20 Feb 1899 Glasgow, and Jean Rankine b. 1 Dec 1822 Fife, d. 7 Sep 1890 Glasgow. Robert (II) emigrated to Utah sometime before 1887. His wife Janet Wilson, and children Robert Buchanan 1879-1967, Jeannie Rankin 1883-1961, and James Wilson 1885-1953 followed in 1887 coming on the SS Nevada from Liverpool. Robert (II) lived in Price Utah was active in politics, served as a constable and sheriff, later moved to Scofield. He and wife Janet (Jessie) were separated by at least 1898 and divorced in 1901. She died a year later and Robert took custody of the youngest children born in Utah: Violet Elizabeth 1888-1974, Pearl May 1891-? , Nellie Menzies 1896-1949. There were tw 0other children in the family who died in infancy, Janet Whitelaw 1881-1882 and George 1890-1890.

Re: Janet Menzies

rgardnerlindon — 2011-04-25 15:42:55Z

I know this reply comes 4 years after the original post; perhaps you will still find it interesting. Janet (pronounced Janette, but they called her Jessie) Wilson Menzies was my great grandmother. She came from Glasgow via Liverpool in 1887 on the SS Nevada (October) and then by train to Ogden and then to Carbon county. According to her granddaughter, Lois Roberta Menzies, she "took up with a polygamist" in her 40s, divorced husband Robert from whom she'd been separated for about three years, and married the other. She became pregnant by him and died along with the baby due to complications (bleeding) during pregnancy. This information came to Lois second hand from her Aunt Pearl who was Janet and Robert's daugther. This information may be a little suspect. Pearl was 10 at the time. After Janet's death, Robert came and got the three little girls, Violet, Pearl and Nellie but left 16 year old son James' clothes hanging on the back of the door. James lived on his own from that time and is Lois' father and my grandfather.

Re: Have old photo's McKendrick and Powell families need help

wendyprettyman — 2011-02-24 04:49:55Z

Thank you! I will check it out..

Re: Have old photo's McKendrick and Powell families need help

diskoverit — 2011-02-23 04:15:56Z

You can post the photos on http://www.deadfred.com/

Have old photo's McKendrick and Powell families need help

wendyprettyman — 2011-02-22 21:49:33Z

We have a photo book that belonged to Betsy Powell Honeck Mckendrick Culp and I really need help to identify some of the photo's in the book. Does anyone have any idea how I might go about this. I'm sure most of the photos are of children around the Carbon county area.. You can e-mail me at wendyprettyman@aol.com Thank you!

looking for pictures of David Jacob Bryner & Mary Alice Worthen

marychasez — 2010-06-27 16:24:08Z

I'm looking for pictures of David Jacob Bryner, born 1874 in St. George, Utah and Mary Alice Worthen, born 1873 also in St. George. Mary died in 1913 in Price and is buried in the City Cemetery. David died in 1952 in California but is buried in Price.

If anyone has pictures of them, I would love to correspond with you.

Thanks!
Mary Nelson (a great-great granddaughter of David and Mary)
lovinlondon@hotmail.com

Re: thomas/mary alice mills of sunnyside carbon utah

kathleenpennington75 — 2010-05-31 06:58:27Z

Many thanks for the info. regarding the Mills deaths. They are part of my research . I some how missed this message ....sorry I have`nt replied before now.
Regards
KP

Re: Elmer Wilson, wife name possibilities Aubrey or Melina J.

logues581 — 2010-05-01 02:34:54Z

There is an Elmer born 1894 Tennessee in 1900 with father James and mother Lou

1920 Elmer and Myrtle with son Glenn in MO

and his wife didn't know who his parents were when he died

cemetery says 1894--1930--he is the same one in the obit

Sandy
logues58@sbcglobal.net

Re: thomas/mary alice mills of sunnyside carbon utah

diskoverit — 2010-03-07 23:46:00Z

I found two death certificates, one for Thomas Mills, the other for Alfred Mills. They are quite possibly who you are looking for. Note, the mother of Alfred is different, but his occupation is mining, died in Carbon, Utah.

Re: Mele/Melo & Aragone/Aragona living in Carbon County

utahtabbymarx — 2009-11-13 06:33:34Z

have a sister in law whose husband is descended from Mary Melo Roedel, daughter of Battista Mele...would love to hear from someone with more info... Tabby Marx utahtabby@msn.com

Re: thomas/mary alice mills of sunnyside carbon utah

nadtj — 2009-09-14 20:12:20Z

Not sure if this is the same family, but here is a newspaper article about the marriage of a John Mills (father Thomas Mills) in Sunnyside:
http://udn.lib.utah.edu/u?/carboncounty,3987

Death of Thomas Mills:
http://udn.lib.utah.edu/u?/newsadvocate,41248

Hope that helps. I am not related.

thomas/mary alice mills of sunnyside carbon utah

kathleenpennington75 — 2009-09-02 09:54:02Z

Thomas Mills of Leigh Lancashire UK born 1872 and of Sunyside Carbon Utah around 1907 was employed in the mines. Any information on the mining industry during this time to cause him to move his family from England would be of interest.

1910 US Federal census........Mills/Gregory

kathleenpennington75 — 2009-09-02 09:46:11Z

Thomas mills and Mary Alice(nee Gregory) relocated to Sunnyside Carbon Utah in /around 1907, from Leigh Lancashire UK. Would welcome more info.Children....Elsie born 1908 Utah...Edith born 1895 UK.....Alfred H born 1900 UK.

Re: Need Obit lookup in Carbon County...PLEASE!

BarbaraFratto — 2009-08-24 04:29:12Z

Hi! I just saw your post! I don't know why I didn't get a notice that someone had replied...Anyway...yes...I would very much like to have this info. I would appreciate any help. Thanks! Barbara

Re: Peter & Charlotte Elliott +surnames

jnpuffens — 2009-08-11 17:00:44Z

I also just realized I have a picture of Charlotte's headstone in the Salt Lake City Cemetery if you do not have this and would like it. Reply to my email if you would like. Thanks again!

Re: Peter & Charlotte Elliott +surnames

jnpuffens — 2009-08-11 16:58:58Z

I just came across this post regarding Charlotte Alvord Curtis Elliot. My husband is ggg grandson of Lyman Curtis. I am trying to compile information for him, and would LOVE to get a copy of the picture you refer to of Charlotte. I have a few of Lymon, as well as his gravestone in Salem if you would like these. Let me know how to get a copy of this -if you can send it electronically to me, or if I can get you some money to mail a copy. THANKS!!! Polly Uffens (West Jordan, UT)

Obit Request: Ora Emmaline Perry Mortensen 1895 -1991

ChuckPerry369 — 2009-06-20 21:30:13Z

I would sure appreciate some help with an obituary for Ora. I think she passed away in Price, Carbon County.

ORA E MORTENSEN 06 Apr 1895 20 Mar 1991 (not specified) (none specified) 528-02-3172 Utah

Thanks,
Chuck

Re: Need Obit lookup in Carbon County...PLEASE!

decklyduck — 2009-03-05 16:47:11Z

I know it has been a long time ago you posted this message, please let me know if you still need this info.

Elmer and Jessïe Stringham's obit

schlabsz1 — 2008-11-04 16:57:33Z

Jessica "Jessie" (Quate) Stringham died April 1976 in Price, UT and her husband Elmer Taylor Stringham died June 29,1974 in Price, UT. If anyone could find me a copy of their obits and send them to me at schlabsz@hotmail.com

Re: SCOFIELD MINE DISASTER

lmorriss134 — 2008-04-10 06:26:27Z

HI LIZ will look out research on my WEBBER lines ,send me you email to l_morriss@sky.com
regards JOHN

Re: SCOFIELD MINE DISASTER

lizharries — 2008-04-09 21:04:28Z

There is a great possibility that these Webbers are related to me. I am currently researching the Webber family tree and have noticed that many entries in the 1800's have recorded the family births, deaths and marriages as being in the Neath locality or even in Breconshire when in fact they have lived in the Llansamlet area of Swansea - some miles away.

Do you know who Mathew Webbers parents were? If you can share any other names with me then I can try to link the family and will be happy to provide you with any information that I have. Regards Liz Harries

Joseph Graves Menzies

mommarat — 2008-03-25 15:56:22Z

I am looking for an obit on my great uncle Joseph Graves Menzies. He was born 12 Sep 1900 in Schofield. His father Joseph Graves was killed in the Schofield Mine Diaster. His mother my great grandma married Robert Buchanan Menzies and Joseph was raised by him. His mothers names was Margaret Ann Morris. He died 8 March 1985 in Salt Lake. I remember my grandma had a reunion in Mt Pleasant and two of his sons came to it. Any info would be helpful

Re: Johannes Phillip Marx information

farrelm140 — 2008-02-20 21:56:36Z

I actually have quite a bit of history on Phillip. Including where he live his Military Records, his excommunication and rebaptism etc. If you are interested give me a call at 435-462-3447, or email me at my address.

Re: STRONG Family of Spring Glen - Newspaper connection?

RondaLOberlin — 2008-02-15 00:10:17Z

THANK YOU! That's a huge help!