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Re: Samford or Sanfords of Shelby Co, Texas

LBucknerMartin — 2013-04-28 21:20:50Z

I spent a couple of hours last Friday at The Shelby County Historical Museum and an hour at the County Clerk's office. I was searching for any records pertaining to Dr. Mallaleel Johnson, and Mary Onacata Magalona Sanford, such as a marriage certificate, info about Mallaleel's death, anything that might confirm her unusual name, etc. Unfortunately, the courthouse in Center, Tx, burned in the 1880's, and those records do not exist. So unless there are some private papers that turn up, I don't see ever getting any more information than we already have.

Re: Shillings, Janice--Obit, 4 March 1960

DebbieNeubauer68 — 2013-04-28 21:05:10Z

I have both of those items. I actually put the grave on FindaGrave. She is my aunt and although I have most of my family's papers there was not an obit for her and thought maybe the library in Center might have archives of the newspaper from that time frame. Thanks for responding though.

Newtown Willis Beckham b:1880 d:1904

robertdpittman — 2013-04-28 21:00:19Z

I am looking for information on Newton Willis Beckham. I have a listing for him in my tree http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/41016346/person/19599813322

He died in Center, Shelby, TX on 25 Apr 1904. This information was in some family notes from my grandmother. Her story was she was born in the back room and her father died in the front room. In reality it was about a couple of days apart.

I am looking for proof of death and where he is buried. Any help is appreciated.

Bob

Re: Shillings, Janice--Obit, 4 March 1960

MarionParker99 — 2013-04-28 14:11:49Z

I cannot provide an obituary, but maybe these two items will help you obtain the information you want. I am copying and pasting the information from findagrave. I am attaching her death certificate.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSfn=ja...;

Janice M. Smith Shillings
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Birth: Mar. 19, 1915
Texas, USA
Death: Mar. 4, 1960
Shelby County
Texas, USA

Family links:
Parents:
Venice Evert Smith (1889 - 1971)
Mattie Lee Jones Smith (1891 - 1971)

Spouse:
Alva Leon Shillings (1920 - 2005)

Children:
Eddie B. Shillings (1947 - 1957)*

*Calculated relationship

Burial:
Sardis Cemetery
Shelbyville
Shelby County
Texas, USA

Created by: Deborah Neubauer
Record added: Aug 30, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 29431010

I'm sorry, I couldn't get the death certificate to attach to this posting. Remind me and I will try again, if your are interested in seeing the death certificate.

Shillings, Janice--Obit, 4 March 1960

DebbieNeubauer68 — 2013-04-23 22:20:30Z

I looking for a copy of Janice Shillings obit from 1960. She died 4 March 1960 and is buried in Sardis Cemetery. At the time of her death she was married to Leon Shillings. Also if anyone has a copy of a newspaper article that might have appeared about her death that would be appreciated as well.

Re: blount-randall-matlock

gymarquez — 2013-04-22 07:07:45Z

I know that it has been a while since you posted this message. I am a Blount descendant and have heard the name "Pomp" in my childhood. Please feel free to contact me and I will give you a contact in the family who may be able to help you.

Re: Forsyth/Davis

bjloyd — 2013-04-07 22:06:34Z

Anne,
My great grandmother was Martha Ann Hall who married a Webb, then James Forsythe, my great grandfather. James & Martha Hall Forysthe are buried in the Glendale Cemetery, Lufkin, Angelina, Texas.
They are also listed on Find A Grave with a photo of the two of them. James and Martha Hall Forysthe are the parents of Cara Isabelle (Lizzie)Forsythe Goodson, my grandmother.

I am very much interested in any information on the Isaac Hall that you mention in your post.
June Lloyd Moffet

Jane Catherine Branch Largent - death date in Shelby county, Texas

HNWTX — 2013-04-04 13:43:35Z

I had a suggestion to look in the State Archives in Austin and find when her widows pension stopped to help determine date of death. So if I get an approximate date of death from that, what local Shelby county newspaper can I search for an obit or death notice?

Here is what I know about Jane Catherine Branch.

Born 1842 in GA to John and Elizabeth Branch. Sister is Martha Ann Branch Sample of Shelby County. They are both buried in Sample Cemetery but Jane's marker has no dates.

Jane is on the 1850 Escambia county, Florida census and the 1860 Sabine Parish, La census. Marries Walter D Largent 31 Oct 1860 in Sabine Parish and they are both on the 1870 Sabine census with children. Walter is a Civil War Vet and dies in 1875. Jane is later found on the 1880 and 1900 Leon, Texas census. Jane then moves to Shelby county sometime after 1900 and lives with sister Martha Sample. Jane applies for a civil war widow pension in sep 1903 and is approved sep 1904. Lastly, Janes' undated headstone is in Sample Cemetery next to her sister Martha. Jane is not found on any census record in 1910 and is presumed death ca 1903 - 1910.

No record of her death is found in the Texas death records online at familysearch.org. From her pension application, Jane had no wealth or property that might show up on deed or probate records and all her children were grown.

So what newspaper can I search or any other ideas on searching.

Thank you.

Hugh

Re: Leavines/Musselwhite/Tremaine

slvbh2 — 2013-03-29 04:29:19Z

Thank you for your research!

Re: Leavines/Musselwhite/Tremaine

PaSain — 2013-03-29 02:04:02Z

Nancy Jane "Leviens" Vick b. AL 15 Oct 1854 - 21 Apr 1940 Vernon, Wilbarger TX

Name: Jacob Levings
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 05 Jan 1854
Event Place: Escambia, Florida
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Father's Name:
Father's Titles and Terms:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Name: Abigail Muselewhite
Spouse's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Age:
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated):
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Father's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Titles and Terms:
Page: 114
GS Film number: 0941001
Digital Folder Number: 004706827
Image Number: 00259
Citing this Record
"Florida, Marriages, 1830-1993," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/

Name: Isaiah Levins
Home in 1830 (City, County, State):Telfair, Georgia
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 2
Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39: 1
Free White Persons - Under 20: 4
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2
Total Free White Persons: 6
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 6

Name: Jacob Levins
Home in 1830 (City, County, State): Telfair, Georgia
Free White Persons - Males - Under 5: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 14: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 15 thru 19: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 40 thru 49: 1 1781-1790
Free White Persons - Females - 5 thru 9: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 20 thru 29: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39: 1
Free White Persons - Under 20: 7
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 4
Total Free White Persons: 11
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 11

1850; Census Place: Division 3, Washington, Florida; Roll: M432_59; Page: 302B; Image: 582.
Iziah Levens 52 SCarolina
Tabitha Levens 53 SCarolina
Richard Levens 21 GA 1829
Jacob Levens 18 GA 1832
Elizabeth Levens 16 GA 1834
John Levens 13 GA 1837

1860 Euchee Anna Post Office, Walton Co FL
Isaiah Levins 63 SC
Tabitha Levins 65 SC
John Levins 22 GA
Richard Levins 30 GA
Elizabeth Levins 31 GA
John S Levins 12 AL
Stephen Levins 8 FL
Julia Ann 6 FL
Mary E Levins 5 AL
Nancy Levins 1 FL

1870 Uchee Anna, Walton, FL. . .counted twice
Isaiah Levins 1790 SC
Tabetha Levins 1785 SC
John F Levins 1864 FL

Isaiah Lavins 1796 GA
Tabitha Lavins 1793 SC

War of 1812
Name: Isaiah Levins
Company: RANGERS, UNITED STATES VOLUNTEERS.
Rank - Induction: PRIVATE
Rank - Discharge: PRIVATE
Roll Box: 125
Microfilm Publication: M602

Name: Elizabeth Francis
Titles and Terms:
Name Prefix:
Event Date: 31 Mar 1915
Event Place: Bon Secour, Baldwin, Alabama
Gender: Female
Race (Original):
Race:
Age (Original): 90y
Birth Year (Estimated): 1825
Birth Date (Original):
Birthplace:
Marital Status:
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Name Prefix:
Father's Name: Isaiah Levens
Father's Titles and Terms:
Father's Name Prefix:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Tabitha Elizabeth Levens
Mother's Titles and Terms:
Mother's Name Prefix:
Mother's Birthplace:
Occupation:
Address:
Residence Place:
Cemetery:
Burial Place:
Burial Date:
Funeral Home:
Informant's Name:
Informant's Name (Original):
GS Film number: 1894115
Reference ID: cn 247
Citing this Record
"Alabama, Deaths, 1908-1974," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/

Seward E Tremaine married Abigail Leavines 27 Sept 1856 Baldwin Co AL

Abigail Musselwhite b. GA circa 1834

I am not related.

Re: Permenter

bjroland_1 — 2013-03-28 17:40:16Z

Are you still in need of info on Thomas C Permenter?

Re: Rohus/Rowher/Rohns/Etc. Mystery.

raulwells — 2013-03-06 13:28:32Z

Does anyone have any information on Sarah Jane b. ~ 1865. She was daughter to Peter Lucas Rohus and Eliza Lemmons.

Re: Elijah Morris Haley (1835-1892), Dr Joe P Haley (1876-1936)

Katygirl40 — 2013-03-03 02:23:25Z

My grandfather was Morris Coleman Haley son of William Houston Haley son of Elijah Morris Haley. William Houston moved into Louisiana around late 1890's and my grandfather settled in DeQuincy Louisiana in 1925 where me and my family still reside. My name is Kevin Wayne Haley contact me if you wish.

Re: Steven Hudson Family Tree

HL2604 — 2013-02-21 11:20:41Z

Those "official" birth records do not exist!

Re: Steven Hudson Family Tree

RBestrom7380 — 2013-02-21 02:03:40Z

From the poster's own family tree:

Hershell O Hudson, born 22 Nov 1925
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/45833746/person/6431743885
Sources for birth: The 1940 US Census, and the Social Security Death Index. Neither qualifies for a source of a birth.

I'm assuming Henry is Henry James Hudson, Hershell's father:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/45833746/person/6432444908
Father Henry is shown in the family tree as being in Timpson, Shelby Co, but not sourced. I'm "assuming" the source would be the birth info on Hershell, which if from above, is not a source of birth.
--Another family tree shows this person as James Henry Hudson.

I would NEVER say they don't exist. There may be records that are not in the hands of the Texas State government or County government. There are newspapers, church records, bible records, etc. There are records that might find them in the town in 1925, property records, tax records, etc.

I didn't see any record that he had served in the military during WWII. His records (if not burned in the 1973 fire) may have birth information.

Hershell's Social Security Number was 446-16-6498. You can obtain a copy of his application for that SSN via the Social Security Administration:
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/online/ssa-711.pdf
BUT, that information would only show the information that HE knew when he applied.

Re: Steven Hudson Family Tree

HL2604 — 2013-02-20 16:53:16Z

They don't exist! Texas mandated vital records effective 1903. Compliance with the law lagged for several decades thereafter. I'm proof of that, born 1946 and birth filed as "delayed" in 1948. The lifespans on your family tree are probably as accurate as you'll find?

Re: Steven Hudson Family Tree

judyartley53 — 2013-02-20 09:07:33Z

Hi,

I didn't find any birth records but I also didn't find them living in Shelby Co. 1900-1930. Do you have any other info about them?

Leavines/Musselwhite/Tremaine

slvbh2 — 2013-01-06 05:17:13Z

Does anyone have information on Nancy Jane Leavines father? Her mother, Abigail Musselwhite, married Seward E Tremaine after Nancy was born.

Re: Wagstaff/Williams Connection

LeeAnn1222 — 2012-12-31 18:52:27Z

Hi Tammy,
I was working on find-a-grave and wanted to link Sarah Elizabeth Wagstaff to James Allen Tindol, but could not locate her. Did she remarry? Do you know where she is buried?
Also, James Allen Tindol was first married to Leona Choate and they had a daughter, Elva May Tindol who married Benjamin Hilliard Sapp, Jr. I found someone whom may be her in the SSDI who died in Houston in 1977, which would mean that she and BH Sapp divorced because he later married someone named Ruth. Do you know where Elva Mae is buried? Thanks! (a Sapp relation)

Re: STRICKLANDS

HL2604 — 2012-11-03 10:24:19Z

Where do you find her on any census?

Re: STRICKLANDS

cjsmith129b — 2012-11-03 08:13:51Z

I'm looking for info on Caledonia Stickland born abt 1865 in MS.her parents born in Ky

Re: Greenberry B Sanford

txglathrt — 2012-09-25 03:27:28Z

i did some researce yrs ago and near as i can figure out they came from SC. which is why he was born in MS. i think his father may have been either a thomas or john. they were bothers and had another greenberry in the family. i lost most of my researce when it was stolen alone with my car. they dumbed it somewhere., so you may want to check the cenus in SC, GA, and FLA. i think u and i talked some back a few yrs ago.
jean

Re: Greenberry B Sanford

jessecrain135 — 2012-09-24 23:30:34Z

Jean, thanks for responding. I'm glad you agree, but I sure wish I could find out his parents, especially his mother.

My husband, Tony, is a great grandson of Sam S and Allie Belle Warren, and a grandson of Lorene Sanford Tillman.

Melinda Tillman (I share an acestry account with my father, Jesse)

Re: Greenberry B Sanford

txglathrt — 2012-09-24 08:50:22Z

greenberry sanford was my great great grandfather. I have for years said he was a nephew of thomas because he was listed last on the cenus. and yes i think all the samford/sanfords are related. very often the cenus takers writing is had to read and was a n not a m. I decend through john pinckney sanford.
jean sanford

Steven Hudson Family Tree

mrstitch_hudson — 2012-08-27 02:19:01Z

Looking for Birth records for Henry James and Hershell O. Hudson in Timpson, TX 1900-1930

Re: Walker | Sarah Pearl Walker

wsstokes4 — 2012-08-25 23:46:06Z

Simeon and Edith Walker's daughter Sarah Pearl Walker (1804 - 1894) married John D. Merchant (1800 - 1876) on 31 Mar 1821 in Lawrence, Tennessee - They are my GGG Grandparents. 1822-1832 they lived in Franklin, Alabama where they had their first children. In 1832 the family moved to Nacogdoches, Texas (Mexican Territory). By 1860, Sarah and John Merchant had moved to Pilot Point, Denton County, Texas. Sarah Pearl Walker Merchant is buried in Abilene, Texas, where finally she lived with her son Claiborne Walker Merchant. Let me know if I can help with this line.

Re: HOLT/BELSER

amm748 — 2012-07-27 18:46:47Z

Finally getting back to my genealogy too since you responded almost a year ago to my earlier post. I'm under amm748 instead of honeydoodle. Again hoping you are still working on your genealogy....if so let me know and maybe we can link up and share.

Massey Family of Shelby County, Texas (William Eugene Massey)

marsguo1 — 2012-07-19 05:49:58Z

Hi,

My family is from Center, TX and I am trying to document our family history.

Unfortunately the farthest I can get back on my father's side is to my great great grandfather, William Eugene Massey. He was born in Louisana in 1872 but moved to East Texas at some point before 1900, where he had four children. One of those was a son, my great grandfather named Johnnie T. Massey. Johnnie T was the husband of Lola Ruth Massey(Hunter) and father of Dorris Massey(Parker), Johnnie Ruth Massey(Brown), and Cecil Edgar Massey.

I do not know and cannot seem to be able to find out who William Eugene Massey's parents are. Does anyone have any idea how I might be able to find out? I know he was born on 18 Sept 1872 and died on 25 Dec, 1961 in Center, Texas. He married Frances "Fannie" Virginia Thomas of Natchitoches, Louisiana on 18 Nov 1897. The marriage occurred in Shelby County, Texas.

Thanks for the help.

Re: MIDDLETON

mlynnbush — 2012-07-17 18:23:22Z

Thank you so much!

Re: MIDDLETON

BARTJURGENS — 2012-07-12 15:20:28Z

I have some info available on ancestry if you want to look at it. Look up Martin Mathew Middleton.

Re: MIDDLETON

mlynnbush — 2012-07-11 17:22:37Z

HEY! My name is Melissa Bush and I am a Great Great Grand Daughter of Martin Middleton. Martin Middleton was my Great Grandma's Father. Her name was Era and she married Claude Farrington Bush and had two sons, James Martin and Claude F. Bush Jr. I have so many stories that my Great Grandma Era used to tell me about her childhood and when Martin Middleton was Sheriff in Shelby County, Texas. Martin moved to Galena Park after retiring as sheriff and got involved in the politics that started the Houston Ship Channel.

Re: HOLT/BELSER

lholt91 — 2012-07-09 17:53:29Z

I have been stumped on this line but you are the only person I know that is responding to the Belser side So if you have information you are willing to share I would love it. I am in the middle of moving to a new home so had to put away my files 3 months ago but now getting things set up. I have information about Ada's family forward to give if you want it but nothing backwards to help out. I appreciate your correspondence and will keep in touch. Hope all is well in your part of the world. Katy Texas is humid and hot!!

Linda Holt

Re: Obituary Assistance Please

Cristoir1 — 2012-07-08 17:18:14Z

PD,

Thanks very much. This is exactly what I needed.

Thanks for your help.

Chris Brennn

Re: Obituary Assistance Please

PaSain — 2012-07-08 13:43:21Z

I am not related but Julia A Biggar/Bigger born abt 1840 TX or TN, wife of George W Biggar, lived in Shelby County 1860 - 1900 census appears to be Julia Cartwright.

Name: Annie B. Martin
Death Date: 02 Dec 1914
Death Place: Houston, Harris, Texas
Gender: Female
Race: White
Death Age: 48 years 29 days
Estimated Birth Date:
Birth Date: 03 Nov 1866
Birthplace: Texas
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: Geo. W. Bigger
Father's Birthplace: Tex
Mother's Name: Julia Cartwright
Mother's Birthplace: Texas
Occupation: Housewife
Place of Residence:
Cemetery: Glenwood Cem
Burial Place:
Burial Date: 03 Dec 1914
Additional Relatives:
Film Number: 2051178
Digital Film Number: 4165730
Image Number: 00001223
Reference Number: cn 24716
Source Citation
"Texas, Deaths, 1890-1976," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org

1850 Event Place: San Augustine county, San Augustine, Texas, United States
Henry H Curl M 39 Tennessee
Nancy Curl F 29 Tennessee
Malissy Curl F 19 Tennessee
Missouri Curl F 16 Arkansas or MO married Frank James Patillo b. AL abt 1830
Arrabella Clementine Curl F 14 Arkansas married Rogers
Eudora Orr Curl F 12 Arkansas married Jno. L Meel; Ella Meel Kearby 05 Dec 1856 Smith Co TX - 05 Oct 1911 Comanche Co buried Wills Point VZ Co married John G Kearby lived VZ Co 1880
Charlotte Curl F 9 Missouri married Thos J Wiley; Walter C Wiley 20 Aug 1865 Tyler Smith Co - 14 Mar 1940 Smith Co. 2nd wife of T J Wiley was A E Draughton b. LA 1855 they had son T C Wiley 1874.
Henry Curl M 3 Texas
James Curl M 1 Texas
William Cartwright M 12 Tennessee lived Shelby Co TX 1860 ?
Julia Cartwright F 9 Texas
John Cartwright M 7 Texas

Groom's Name: Henry H. Curl
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Nancy H. Cartwright
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: Jan 1846
Marriage Place: , San Augustine, Texas
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M59285-1
System Origin: Texas-VR
Source Film Number: 1003680
Reference Number: 2:S8ZC6W
Source Citation
"Texas, Marriages, 1837-1973," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org

1860; Census Place: Starrville, Smith, Texas; Roll: M653_1305; Page: 47; Image: 97; Family History Library Film: 805305.
H H Curl 49 TN
Charlotte Curl 18 MO
Jas Rather Curl 11 TX married Ada P Renfro 28 Dec 1881 Robertson Co TX
Duncan Neal 20 TN

Name: H. H. Curl
Residence: Van Zandt, Texas
Birthdate: 1811
Birthplace: Tennessee, United States
Relationship to Head: Other
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace: North Carolina, United States
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee, United States
Race or Color (Expanded): White
Ethnicity (Standardized): American
Gender: Male
Martial Status: Widowed
Age (Expanded): 69 years
Occupation: Clerk In Store
NARA Film Number: T9-1330
Page: 67
Page Character: D
Entry Number: 1925
Film number: 1255330
Household Gender Age Birthplace
SELF J. C. Rogers M 60 Tennessee, United States
WIFE Arrabella Clementine Curl Rogers F 43 Arkansas, United States
DAU Effie M. Rogers F 10 Texas, United States married E E Crow 15 June 1889 VZ Co
H. H. Curl M 69 Tennessee, United States

Name: Henry Curl
Titles & Terms:
Event: Census
Event Date: 1900
Event Place: ED 57 Cleburne city Ward 2 & 4, Johnson, Texas, United States
Birth Date: Sep 1810
Birthplace: Tennessee
Relationship to Head of Household: Father-in-law
Father's Birthplace: Virginia
Mother's Birthplace: N Carolina
Race or Color (Standardized): White
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Widowed
Years Married: 10
Estimated Marriage Year: 1890
Mother How Many Children:
Number Living Children:
Immigration Year:
Page: 23
Sheet Letter: A
Family Number: 445
Reference Number: 31
Film Number: 1241649
Digital Folder Number: 004118524
Image Number: 00255
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Jas C Rogers M 80 Tennessee
Wife Clementine Rogers F 63 Arkansas
Father-in-law Henry Curl M 90 Tennessee

Name: Arrabella C. Rogers
Death Date: 22 May 1918
Death Place: Cleburne, Johnson, Texas
Gender: Female
Race: white
Death Age: 80 years 4 months 5 days
Estimated Birth Date:
Birth Date: 17 Jan 1837
Birthplace: Ark.
Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: H. H Curl
Father's Birthplace: Ark.
Mother's Name: Charlotte Cooper
Mother's Birthplace: Mo.
Occupation:
Place of Residence:
Cemetery:
Burial Place: Cleburne
Burial Date: 23 May 1918
Additional Relatives: E E Crow informant
Film Number: 2073265
Digital Film Number: 4165789
Image Number: 1364
Reference Number: cn 21538
Source Citation
"Texas, Deaths, 1890-1976," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org

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Hezikiah Cartwright married Nancy H Grissim 08 Oct 1834 Wilson Co TN

Obituary Assistance Please

Cristoir1 — 2012-07-07 04:33:12Z

Greetings,

I seek the obituary of Julia A. Biggar (Jan. 6, 1840-Mar. 25, 1917). She is buried in the Biggers Cemetery in Shelby County. I am not sure if this is the same Julia Biggar I am seeking, and I am hoping an obituary exists so I can determine that one way or the other.

Any assistance is welcome. Thank you!

Chris Brennan

Re: Lon Hooper

winack27 — 2012-06-29 04:01:13Z

Any years for these two people?

Re: Smith, Burns

winack27 — 2012-06-29 03:47:53Z

Thank you for your information.
Anne Mackenzie

Re: Smith, Burns

RMcAuley95 — 2012-06-28 20:14:51Z

I am a great-grandson of Benjamin Milam Johnson (1838-1915), a younger brother to Ellenor Lockert Johnson (1833-1874), wife of (Dr) Jacob Smith (1834-1881), of Shelby County, TX. Ellen's father, Alvey E. Johnson (1803-1862) was from Fayetteville, Lincoln County, TN. In 1829 he married Rachel Denicy Lockert (1807-1884), daughter of James and Ellenor Lockert of Saline County, Arkansas, and the couple settled near Greenville in Clark County, Arkansas Territory, where he served as deputy sheriff, 1826-30. In early September 1830 he resigned and was "gone to Texas" as it appears in the county circuit court records. At the same time as his brother-in-law William S. Lockert (1817-1847) represented Saline County in the Arkansas Assembly, Alvey R. Johnson (a Texas Ranger) was elected from Shelby County to the House of Representatives of the Third Congress of the Republic of Texas, 1838-39.

Re: hello looking for any hints on family william f bowden/emma frances anderson bowden

MarionParker99 — 2012-05-05 23:01:19Z

William Franklin Bowden and his wife Frances Emily Anderson Bowden are buried in Old Center Cemetery, Panola County, Texas.

http://www.cemeteries-of-tx.com/Etx/Panola/cemetery/ocenter%...

He is listed under W. F. Bowden. She is listed under
Emma. However, their death certificates give their full names.

According to her death certificate, Frances Emily Anderson Bowden's father was Dave Anderson and her mother was Fannie White. The death certificate says that Mrs. Bowden died of tuberculosis. Frances Anderson is on the 1880 census of Panola County, Texas. She is living in the home of her stepfather, John C. Thompson. Her mother is Frances E.

William Franklin's death certificate gives his mother's name as Martha Williams. His father is listed as unknown and is said to have been lost at sea.

Re: hello looking for any hints on family william f bowden/emma frances anderson bowden

HL2604 — 2012-05-02 23:56:53Z

Seriously? Are you truly in need of assistance or looking to confirm info you already possess? Either way, point your mouse at "Search" in the header of ancestry.com's homepage. Scroll to "Public Member Trees" then click. Enter parents in the appropriate boxes. Pulldown tab to display USA under "Country". Pulldown tab to display Texas under "State". Click "Search" then select tree(s) for review.

hello looking for any hints on family william f bowden/emma frances anderson bowden

lizf463 — 2012-05-01 23:21:24Z

son was william eugene bowden his wife is mabelle c king of tenaha, texas shelby county

Re: Shelby County Registry

RMcAuley95 — 2012-05-01 12:26:06Z

Don't know whether this may work or not, but this should present some idea of the Christopher Choate estate items, such as Christopher Choate's pocketbook.

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii305/rmac1023/WHC1849.jp...

Re: Shelby County Registry

RMcAuley95 — 2012-05-01 06:42:17Z

Berlene,

No, I don't have much else to add. But did wantt to note that another Choate researcher sent me a message referring me to a digitized image of a letter issued by Augustus Hotchkiss, a primary judge in San Augustine, Texas, dated 20 April 1835 and concerned a appointment of guardianship to Bailey Anderson Jr and Sam McFadden of the four minor heirs of the deceased Christopher "Kit" Choate (or Shoat), namely "Wade Hampton aged about eight years, Nancy aged about six years, Eliza aged about four years, Stokely aged about two years".

http://digital.sfasu.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/Millards/...

Based on this information, I suspect that the Louisa Choate (age 18 in 1850 Census in household of Moses L. Choate in Polk County, TX) served as the heir to Chistopher Choate in 1851 is likely the above "Eliza" or perhaps her full name was possibly Eliza Louisa Choate? Below is the proceedings on the partitioning of the estate.

“M. [Moses] L. Choat, guardian, vs A. R. Johnson, guardian: And now comes the pleas as guardian of Louisa Choat praying for a partition & distribution of the Estate of Christopher Choat, Elizabeth Bradley and Wade H. Choat and A.R. Johnson as guardian of the other minor heirs and distributes of said estates to wit: M.W. Bradley, Melinda H., Amanda F, and Malvena D. Bradley, and having made no abjection to a partition and distribution of the same, and after a hearing in said cause, it is ordered adjudged and decreed that the said Louisa is entitled to the one half of said estates, and the respective guardians having agreed to a division accordingly, And it is further appearing from exhibits made at the term of this court by A R Johnson the administrator of said estates that the same is in a Situation to be divided and distributed. It is further ordered and decreed that Richard Yarborough, William Nail, James West, Andrew Nail and Redden Sesiums be and hereby are appointed commissioners to divide all the effects, money, and property of said estates in two equal portions. One of which to be set apart for the said Louisa and the other half to the minor children of John & Elizabeth Bradley and that they make return of the division of the cattle on the 15 day of April & to this court on or before the April Term of this court, 1851.

It is further ordered that said Johnson administrator as aforesaid presents and show said cattle etc., to the said commissioners on said day, reserving a sufficient amount to pay expences of administration & the debts of the estates. It is further ordered that the said Johnson exhibit to said commissioners all the other effects, money of said estates at his house on the 9th day of January 1851 & that they on said day make partition & distribution between Louisa Choat and the minor heirs of John Bradley giving her one half & said minors the other half and return by the next term of this court.

The State of Texas}
County of Shelby} I, W.E. Roberts, Clerk of the County Court in & for the said County, do certify that the above and foregoing is a true copy from the minutes of the Probate Court of Shelby County, the same made Dec’r 31st AD 1850.
Given under my hand and seal of said Court, May 22nd 1851, W.E. Roberts CCCSC.”

"State of Texas, County of Shelby,
January 25th day 1851
We the Commissioners appointed by the Probate Court of said County agree that the folw [following] be the division of the said Estates of Christopher Shoat, Elizabeth Bradley, John Bradley and W H Shoat in compliance with an order of said Court.

That M L Shoat the guardian for Louisa Shoat: the headright of Christopher Shoat for one league and labor, is to have two hundred and forty dollars in Beauchamps Note, and is to colect the balance and egiledeved (sic) betwith Johnson. Rest by payment one hundred and fifty eight dollars and fifty cents;

That A R Johnson, Guardian for the Minor hears of Elizabeth Bradley and John Bradley: 1 headright for one League and Labor granted to Elizabeth Shoat, is to have the hears claim for two hundred and forty dollars in the hands of E M Daggett, is to have thirty tuo head of cattle on a Everage of said Stock;

Richard Yarborough,
James West,
Reding Sesiums

Personally appearing James West, Richard Yarborough and Redden Sesium and says on oath that the within partition was made without partiality, sworn and subscribed to in open court this 27th of Jan. 1851, Robert Turner, Chief Justice, Richard Yarborough, Reding Sesums, James West, com.

The State of Texas}
County of Shelby} I, W.E. Roberts, Clerk of the County Court in & for said County do certify that the above and foregoing is a true copy of the original report & affidavit, now on file in my office. Given under my hand and official seal, this May 22 AD 1851. W.E. Roberts CCCSC”

Additionally, according to a letter addressed to Alvey R. Johnson, dated at Camp Madena, near San Antonio, August 11, 1849 from Nelson D. Walling, some two months before the death of Wade H. Choate in October 1849, reports:

A.R. Johnson, Esqr.
Dr. Sir— We start tomorrow morning for Mexico, much against our will. We all enjoy tolerable good health. Stokely and Wade are in our company, and in my mess. I do not know when I will be home— I wish you to assist the boys in getting out their crop, and do the best you can with it for them. We have not drawn any money yet, and are not likely to— but should we draw, I will try and send some home to you by the first safe chance. I had bad luck with my horse, but in the rounds I have not loss much. I have made my enquiry respecting the stud horse, and think you had better keep him at home, as there is no money in the country, nor wont be, until the army is discharged. Sam Bonds sends his stud home today, for the want of sale. Give my respects to your family and all my friends. And give my respects also to my family. I would write to you again, but I know not where I will be, or how to send you a letter. Believe me your friend &c
N.D. Walling”

Just to understand the importance of who Nelson D. Walling was, two years earlier, Walling (then age 44) had enlisted in Colonel Jack Coffee Hayes' Second Regiment of Texas Rangers as a private and was mustered on June 21, 1847 into Captain Isaac Furguson’s company, who had took over after Captain Alfred M. Truitt was promoted to the rank of Major on the regimental staff. Also on muster roll was Ephraim M. Daggett, as First Lieutenant (age 38), and also Stoakly B. Choate, as 2nd Bugler (age 18). Daggett's brother Charles was 1st Bugler. Although Wade H. Choate is not listed on the company muster roll of June 1847, he was reported as 'absent on detached duty since May 28, 1847; returned to Co. August 29, 1847; Mustered out near Veracruz, Mexico May 1, 1848. 1 horse lost at sea from Brazos Santiago to Veracruz; commutation for clothing due. I have a receipt issued to him on May 18, 1848 from a New Orleans clothier where he went on a buying spree. The last notice I have of Wade prior to his death was a reciept: “Rec’d of Wade H. Choate twenty one Dollars in full for advertising the Administrator’s Notices of the Estates of Elizabeth and Jno Bradley this the 25th Sept 1849 (signature of) Wm. Harmon”

The very next item was the following notice:

State of Texas}
County of Shelby}
Whereas it has Been Shown to the Satisfaction of the undersigned Chief Justice that Wade H Choate has departed this life who was administrator of the Estate of John Bradley, Christopher Choate & Elizabeth Bradley, deceased, and as there is business that requires immediate attention it [is] therefore ordered that A R Johnson be appointed administrator with [---ed] & power To take charge of all the Effects belong[ing] to the above named person until there can be a legal administrator appointed and also all the Effects of the above Wade H Choate of aforesaid as he has complyed with the law Regulators insuch cases. Given under my hand and seal of office at Shelbyville this 6th of Nov 1849, Robert Turner, Chief Justice SC, attest G.W. Scott, CCCSC”

Re: Ludlow Paul Agnew

stgarrett — 2012-04-25 20:39:00Z

Ludlow Paul Agnew and Samantha Pruitt (Pruett) Agnew were my great grandparents. They had 11 children, the youngest being my grandfather, Clifton Eugene Agnew (1897-1971). After the death of Samantha P. Agnew, L. P. Agnew married Frances Griffin Lansford. They had five children.

Samantha Pruitt (Pruett) had five given names; therefore leading to some confusion regarding her name. Why she was given five names I do not know.

Both L.P. Agnew and Samantha Pruitt Agnew are buried in Ramah Cemetery in Shelby County, Texas.

Ludlow Paul Agnew's mother, Susan Nix Agnew is also buried in Ramah cemetery. His father, Elijah Agnew, is buried in the confederate cemetery at Camp Chase, Ohio.

sgarrett@carthageisd.org

Re: Shelby County Registry

tawquish — 2012-04-17 03:35:52Z

Mr. McAuley,

Thank you for your reply. I made a mistake about Robert and Wade Hampton Choate, named as grandsons of Sarah McKenzie Choate in 1850...it was in 1880.

I appreciate the time you took to respond but my interest is with the Choate line. Since you don't have more useful information regarding the Choate families, do you perhaps have any contact that would know more about this line that I might contact?

Thanks for your time,

Berlene Jacques

Re: Shelby County Registry

RMcAuley95 — 2012-04-17 02:56:56Z

Some of the information was verified with on-line sources, such as the fact that John M. Bradley served as sheriff of Shelby County (1838-41), verified by receipts held in the Texas State Archives. Similar receipts for the payment of A.R. Johnson as a member of the House of Representatives from Shelby County was found among the claims against the Republic of Texas. But that was not discovered until 2006. Elizabeth Choate, an immigrant of the year 1821 was found in the clerk returns only recently made available on-line by the Texas General Land Office. But in having Alvey R. Johnson's personal papers, discovered in his son's trunk in 1989, including the Bradley estate papers, has been a huge advantage considering the many biographical sketches on John M. Bradley is really a composite of some five men bearing the same name including one who never lived in Texas. Complicating matters further was the fact that two men by the same name each settled in Shelby County, though with the documents that I have now assembled, the former Shelby County sheriff and tax accessor believed by many to have been murdered in 1844 was still living in May 1848 when Middleton Tate Johnson sent his 12 year old son Thomas to hand-carry a note to Bradley anent an offer to buy 60 head of cattle. Of any person then living in Texas, Texas Ranger Captain M.T. Johnson (a former Regulator leader) would most certainly have known whether this John M. Bradley was killed in 1844 and would not have written a letter to a dead man! This John M. Bradley died in March 1849, based on a sworn affidavit by his personal physician Dr. James S. Kyle of Panola County, one of the very documents forming the probate papers of the Bradley Estate.

Re: Shelby County Registry

HL2604 — 2012-04-16 14:37:16Z

Outstanding research! Indisputable evidence! You'll not find all-of-that online?

Re: Shelby County Registry

RMcAuley95 — 2012-04-16 12:22:42Z

1850 Census? And Redmon dead? Thought he died about 1861? The Wade Hampton Choate (1826-1849) that I am dealing with had served with John Coffee Hayes' Second Regimnt of Texas Rangers during the Mexican War, 1847-48 so was an older man than the one you are seeking. The A. R. Johnson noted below refers to Alvey R. Johnson (1803-1862) who was appointed by the probate court below 'non bonis' adminstrator on the estates of the decedents Christopher Choate, Elizabeth Choate alias Bradley, and John M. Bradley in addition to Wade Hampton Choate below. Elizabeth Choate, an immigrant of the year 1821 was in 1838 appointed as the administrator on the estate of the deceased Christopher Choate but did not collect very much on closing the decedent's estate. In 1840 she married John M. Bradley, then sheriff of Shelby County by whom they had four children, who were orphaned in March 1849. As is noted below, at the time of his death, Wade was the administrator on the descedent's estates and so the court had to appoint someone else to oversee the estates. Johnson had represented Shelby County in the Third Congress of the Republic of Texas and was an attorney. In representing another minor heir, Louisa Choate, was the younger brother of Christopher Choate, a William Moses Livington Choate of Polk County, Texas. But I would suspect that the Wade Hampton Choate you are seeking was named for the above gentleman.

Item 1:

State of Texas}
County of Shelby}
Whereas it has Been Shown to the Satisfaction of the undersigned Chief Justice that Wade H Choate has departed this life who was administrator of the Estate of John Bradley, Christopher Choate & Elizabeth Bradley, deceased, and as there is business that requires immediate attention it [is] therefore ordered that A R Johnson be appointed administrator with [---ed] & power To take charge of all the Effects belong[ing] to the above named person until there can be a legal administrator appointed and also all the Effects of the above Wade H Choate of aforesaid as he has complyed with the law Regulators insuch cases. Given under my hand and seal of office at Shelbyville this 6th of Nov 1849, Robert Turner, Chief Justice SC, attest G.W. Scott, CCCSC

Item 2:

Now at this day comes A R Johnson by Petition praying for letters of administration on the Estate of Wade Choat, deceased. It is therefore ordered by the Court that A R Johnson be & he is hereby appointed administrator of said Estate he complying with the Law.

The State of Texas}
County of Shelby} I, W.E. Roberts, Clerk of the County Court in & for the said County, do certify that the above and foregoing is a true copy of an order made in Probate Court for said county, on the 26th day of November AD 1849.
Given under my hand and seal of said Court at Office, on this 22nd day of May AD 1851, W.E. Roberts CCCSC.

Re: Shelby County Registry

tawquish — 2012-04-16 06:37:57Z

.Hope you will see this but I am interested in finding out exactly who Wade Hampton Choate is. In 1850, Shelby County, Texas in the home of Sarah MCKenzie Choate, widow of Redmond Choate, are Robert age 11 and Wade Hampton age 9 Choate. They are listed as grandsons of Sarah Choate. Do you know who these young children belong to?

Re: Ludlow Paul Agnew

clayton1245 — 2012-04-13 14:14:29Z

Thanks, i will the lead you gave me. I do realize I have some issues i need to clear up with the tree, especially associated with Ludlow Agnew.