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Re: Information about John Hanks Wallace

LindaRodriguez39 — 2013-04-17 02:54:41Z

Hello, again.
My e-mail has changed to lindaj1223@gvtc.com

Re: Arnold Urbanovsky, Waco Texas

smu231 — 2013-04-05 19:15:15Z

Hi I'm macy Urbanosky and arnold urbanovsky is my great grandfather. That is really that you have that cd. Do you still have it?

Re: Arnold Urbanovsky, Waco Texas

smu231 — 2013-04-05 19:11:49Z

Hi I am macy Urbanosky and arnold urbanovsky is my great grandfather. Do you still have the cd?

Re: James Gibson, Sarah Rice Gibson, Marha &Caroline Rice

hector137 — 2013-04-05 14:05:08Z

If anyone on this board knows what the Rev James Gibson did between 1834, when he resigned as Presbyterian minister in Lislooney (/Lisluney) owing to ill-health, and his death in 1866, I'd be interested in knowing. He is the most plausible candidate for the "Rev Mr Gibson" who married my gt-gt-grandfather, Jeremian Taylor Andrews, to Martha Rogers "of Armagh" in July 1835. Needless to say, finding any record of the marriage in any register is like searching for a needle in a haystack.

Re: William F. Page

PAGE_CARLA — 2013-04-03 00:09:14Z

son DOUGLAS FRAZIER?PAGE
WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM?

Re: FLANIKEN

cwoodosborn1 — 2013-03-30 02:50:53Z

So sorry - no Peacock graves at Val Verde Baptist Church Cemetery.

Re: FLANIKEN

JoLancaster92 — 2013-03-29 05:07:57Z

Cathy, would there happen to be any graves for PEACOCK?
Thanks, Jo L

Re: Hilliards struck by lightning

famtree43 — 2013-03-28 16:43:16Z

Sorry, I don't have even a mention of a Cinderell Jarrell Brown in my tree. The Hillyards are as far away from my direct line as I go and that was to explain the middle name of Hurley for one of my uncles. The notes are just about the death of Henry Hurley Hillyard's parents and then his own death and burial in Arlington National Cem.

Re: Hilliards struck by lightning

78232jjm — 2013-03-28 13:47:57Z

Seems that there is some connection with Cinderell Jarrell Brown and the Hilliards.

I remember the story but wasn't able to locate notes about how they were connected.

Gordon Brown told me about it

Re: FLANIKEN

cwoodosborn1 — 2013-03-28 12:59:34Z

I am not related to these families, but am the church clerk at Val Verde Baptist Church which is just barely in Milam county, very near the Bell county line. Our cemetery is very old, and there are some graves for Flanikens.

Cathy

Re: Hilliards struck by lightning

Zhillyard2 — 2013-03-28 11:28:32Z

H.B. Jr was my grandfather, Charles was my uncles. Henry B. Hillyard Sr. was their father.

H.B. Jr. is buried in Moody TX and Charles is buried in Port Lavaca.

Who was Thomas (Tom) J. Hillyard's father? That's what I'd really like to know.

Re: TOUCHSTONE

scottdurhamphx — 2013-03-28 04:50:25Z

Not sure if this will help, but I got this... http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/53987921/person/13613502356
I am a descendant of Charles Elijah Durham (Turner)

Re: FLANIKEN

HL2604 — 2013-03-27 13:11:16Z

I'm not related! Findagrave lookup in Baca, CO: J. Win. Flaniken (1906-1930). Per 1910 TX-Childress-Precinct 2-0027-Image 2 there were 11 children?

Re: FLANIKEN

mamaghani5 — 2013-03-27 05:15:16Z

Joe and Sallie were my dad's grandparents. My dad and his dad's name was Robert B. Flaniken. I am aware of Ada, but not Winfred and Lena. My dad still has a sister that is living whom will be 95 this year.

I am trying to research the Indian heritage on this line. Do you know anything about that?

Bell county family, last name starting with H

kaycee165 — 2013-03-17 04:41:46Z

I am still working on my project to document everyone in Killeen City Cemetery. Today I found a group of graves that have stone markers, but only initials. The cemetery office has no more information on them. There are four graves with the same type markers, last initial H. I believe they are children, as the area they are in are very small graves. Probably won't be able to find anything in the census records, even if I knew their last name. Other graves immediately around them dated 1880s, then to 1920's/30's. Would appreciate any leads on identifying these babies.

Re: Temple, Bell Co, Texas history and information

linocarol1 — 2013-03-11 00:57:00Z

You might want to try the Railroad Museum in Temple,TX.

Re: Temple, Bell Co, Texas history and information

virginiadbennett56 — 2013-03-09 23:40:34Z

Dear Mike and Nancy Kelsey; I'm hoping you can help me with a question.John Robert Craddock and Sam Houston, are they related?In their later years they look similiar.The family knew each other before they came to America.I've searched with no luck.They were friends and worked together, but I think their related.You have a book in your Library by Uda Faye Wheeler, Weathersbee Childers and Craddock,John and family are on their porch, a house on the hwy from Heidenheimer to Belton that turns into 6th ave in Belton.When you turn on the rd at Heidenheimer about 2-3 miles down on the right,the house looks like the one in the picture.Family told me it's his home,is it?If the family there agrees, could we place a Historical Marker there?Goldsby Childers and Robert owned a lot of land in Milam and Bell Co.If anyone would know, it would be ya'll.Hope to hear from you.Thanks Virginia Bennett

Re: DAVID ROSS

Martha_Arman — 2013-02-28 01:48:08Z

I just ran across your post from long ago. I am a descendant of Peter Server of Milam County, TX. I appreciate the information.

Martha Arman Murphy

Re: Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

nripps2 — 2013-02-05 05:03:44Z

There is no need to purchase the book. It can be found online on Ancestry.com

When I get more time, I'll work on this more. :)

Re: Turners...Moffatt Cemetary

RandyTurner62 — 2013-01-31 12:45:48Z

Thanks for responding!
Actually,I'm looking for his father, also named Sidney. I've been to the Moffett Cemetary and I have a lot of family buried there which is why it's such a mystery where Sidney is.
Thanks again!

Re: Turners...Moffatt Cemetary

jimwhite2834 — 2013-01-31 11:14:09Z

Turner, Sidney Lester, Sr 61256021
b. 1893 d. 1981 Moffat Cemetery
Moffat Bell County
Texas, USA

Is this the person you were seaking? Found on FindAGrave.
No marker on this grave.
Jim White

Turners...Moffatt Cemetary

RandyTurner62 — 2013-01-30 03:46:25Z

Looking for more information on Turner family. Specifically the circumstances around Vernie S. Turner's death in 1918 and any information about Sidney Turner, B. 1852 in Coosa County, AL. I'm trying to fill in a gap created by Silas H. Turner (married Jane Rogers, Troup County, GA 1848) and the family's arrival in Texas (date unknown). Sidney married Nannie Thompson in Bell County. Silas stayed in GA but neither his nor Sidney's death dates are available. Thanks!

Re: Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

HL2604 — 2013-01-28 17:57:58Z

No desire to purchase a book for an unrelated family.

Re: Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

nripps2 — 2013-01-28 14:28:19Z

I would have to look that up on DAR paperwork. You should be able to read about the Butcher family from Iowa in the book, The Chalk Family of England and America, 1066-1942. That book is online.

Re: Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

HL2604 — 2013-01-28 10:44:12Z

What info do you have on the Butcher(s)? There's not much on your tree.

Re: Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

nripps2 — 2013-01-27 19:03:54Z

The Page's in Bell County evolved into a tangled mess. William Walter Page seems to have been a cook for the better part of his life. I think his diner in Ft. Worth was made from an old train car...I'll have to ask my Dad. Evidently, Carl Edward from Bessie may have been a cook as well, so that is Carla Page's insert into the family tree. Unfortunately, my Grandfather Walter Frederick really had nothing to do with the Page family in Ft. Worth. I'm sure many of those people are still there.

Re: Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

nripps2 — 2013-01-27 18:38:37Z

Yes, my mother confirmed this morning that Kate was a Payne. But there seems to be a couple of Dave, David Wood in Belton that were known to Katherine Valeria Chalk (sister to Robert Lewis Chalk). I'll look into this. Thank you for this information! Blessings.

Re: Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

nripps2 — 2013-01-27 18:29:10Z

At least my work week has just been reduced from 40 to 36 hours per week. :)

Yes, I belong to the James McHenry Chapter in San Antonio, National Number 743994, under the Chalk line. That John Hart line is under Annie Butcher from Iowa, first wife of Robert Chalk. Our line goes under Robert Lewis Chalk, 2nd spouse, Sophia Walker Manning Gray. Last time I looked at the John Hart issue, there seemed to be some discepancy that the DAR wants to have cleared up.

I'm going to my parents this week, and see if I can't get some digital photos of my grandparent's photos. My Grandmother Nora definitely has the Chalk look about her when I found other pictures.

There were a pre-nuptial signed between Sophia Walker Manning and R.L. Chalk which we found at the Belton court house. I'm not sure what was going on, but they may have been separated before his death. He was living in San Antonio with Minna before he died. His body was brought back to Belton for burial with his first wife. Sophia sent Nora alone by train from Killeen to Belton, at the age of 13 to her father's burial. However, Sophia records herself as "widow" after Robert's death. We have one picture of a young Nora, and I believe there were two letters from her father.

I have the golden locket Robert gave her at age 6 that was on the Christmas tree. It has an English "N" engraved on it, and it opens to hold photos.

Noralyn Page Ripps

Re: Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

HL2604 — 2013-01-27 17:55:32Z

Unless you own the company, you've got to transfer "off" the night shift! Twenty years is too long! Your health will suffer as well as interpersonal relationships! My daughter-in-law, a registered nurse, works the weekend option so that she can take "care" of my grandkids! Bull! The kids would be better "off" in a non-abusive day care facility! She's usually too tired to even prepare balanced meals so the trade-off is negated. Anyway, do you belong to DAR? The research has already been done by another Texan. John Hart of New Jersey was a signer of the Declaration of Independence. His heritage includes Anna Margaret Butcher who wed Robert Lewis Chalk.

Re: Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

HL2604 — 2013-01-27 09:22:45Z

Another enigma solved! Kate Wood, aunt, aka Mary Catherine Payne age 20 on previously cited 1880 Bell Census. Familysearch indicates David Wood wed M. C. Payne, 21 Jun 1885. Find them 1900 Bell-Belton-District 0016-Image 7. Add an "s" to the surname for 1910 Bell-Belton Ward 3-0003-Image 5. Per familysearch Jewell Wood wed Oliver "Hall", 16 Dec 1908. Actually, he was Ernest Oliver Hale born 5 May 1888 per WWI Draft Card. Two of the other Payne sisters wed surname Hallmark(s) but I have not pursued research.

Re: Lamberth/Lisenbe

SandyBlakley500 — 2013-01-27 06:36:33Z

You're welcome Gloria!
No, unfortunately the Nathaniel's are not one in the same, I've beat that lead to death. LOL But I do believe that they are both descendents of a common ancestor in Maryland. Our line of Croppers left MD for KY, then our line through Elisha came down to MS, then TX and settled in LA around 1840. I think he traveled down the Mississippi River from KY originally. He fought for TX's independence 1836 and you can find him listed in the TX state archives online. Elisha G. Cropper or sometimes just E. G. Cropper is how he is listed. From his enlistment papers in the TX Army we found him described as 5'10" tall, had grey eyes and red hair! During the Civil War Elisha brought his family to Magnolia, Pike Co., MS where worked in construction, I think for the RR. He was a carpenter and brick mason. He served in a minor capacity blowing a bugle at age 45 in the home guard of the Confederate Army there. After the war he returned to St. Landry Parish where he eventually died in 1872. I think it was through carpentry that he met Robert Lamberth who was enumerated with his family in 1870 in that parish. Robert married Elisha's daughter Letha. I have a photos of Letha and William, but not their brother Nathaniel. He and his wife both perished in a house fire and their 3 children were dispersed among relatives. There is mention in a court book of proceedings of a case heard regarding the children, but unfortunately the details of the case were lost in a terrible fire in Lake Charles that burned a whole block of buildings in 1910, including the court house.

Re: Lamberth/Lisenbe

sprgen4119 — 2013-01-27 04:52:07Z

A Nathaniel Cropper owned a home in Woodville, Wilkinson Co Mississippi, that my GGM, Elizabeth Rodgers leased from him.
My GGM died in 1927, and I heard the house burned down.
I wonder if your Nathaniel and this Nathaniel or the one and same.

Thank you for your reply. I was very surprised after all this time.

Many thanks
Gloria

Re: Lamberth/Lisenbe

SandyBlakley500 — 2013-01-27 04:29:27Z

Letha was my 2ggrandfather's sister. Their parents were Elisha Cropper and Priscilla Bogard. They also had an older brother Nathaniel Cropper.

Re: Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

nripps2 — 2013-01-27 02:17:22Z

Somehow, my response didn't get posted. Thank you for the information about JG Payne and info on Carrie Thames (Thomas). I added the information, and updated the William Walter Page information and children. My Grandfather Walter Frederick Page evidently lived with a Kate Wood (an aunt) in Belton. According to my father, after Martha Payne died 1903, some of the boys were placed in an orphanage. WF and Leta were taken in by this Aunt Kate Woods for awhile. This was an Aunt that lived across the street from Kate Valeria Chalk Powers in Belton. The two Kates introduced WF Page to Nora Chalk.

Re: Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

HL2604 — 2013-01-26 21:28:07Z

One part of the enigma solved. J. G. Payne was Martha's pop thus Walter Page's father-in-law. Martha's mom was Carrie Thames born ca. 1839 in Louisiana. They, "Thames", are difficult to trace because surname often interpreted as "Thomas". Find them 1880 Bell-Precinct 6-007-Image 3 as surname "Pane". W. W. Page wed M. E. Payne, 3 Aug 1893 in Anderson County. J. G. (guessing Jesse G. 'cause there was a son with that name) paid taxes in Bell so there has to be other records?

Re: Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

nripps2 — 2013-01-26 16:14:41Z

I work night shift, and this is the first time in almost 20 years that I have had time for genealogy. The last time I was in Belton was almost 20 years ago at that library. Am not finished with the tree in any way. I just started this up "this" week to track down my husband's Hull/Douglas family and get it updated down to the Sawyer line. The Chalk line is well documented, and I will add it as I have access to time. :)

The Page line is a problem because Walter Frederick's mother, Martha Payne died when he was a little boy. He had access to Leta and Roderick for the most part when he was older, but there were some family problems later where he did not converse much with them after the death of his father.

One enigma that we have found is the presence of the headmarker of J.G. Payne in the same burial plot of William Roscoe Chalk and Frances Ombsy Blackburn in the South Belton Cemetery. We don't know if this is the husband or relative of Martha Payne, and if so, why would it be there? And who is he?

Thanks.

Re: Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

nripps2 — 2013-01-26 16:00:34Z

I was not familar with Nannie's Scrap Book. Thank you for that lead. I have spent some time reading through it this morning. It is wonderful that this was transcribed to the Internet. Thank you!

Re: Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

HL2604 — 2013-01-26 11:03:37Z

(lol) With access to "so much" documented history, I wonder why you have not posted same? That might reduce/eliminate some of the confusion? The author of "Nannie's Scrapbooks" was your grandmother's, Nora, first cousin. Seems genealogy inherent in females of this family?

Re: Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

nripps2 — 2013-01-26 01:24:17Z

Those will be in there tomorrow.

I just started hacking away at all of this again this week putting this up on Ancestry. My Grandmother Nora was very close to Minna and Lelia. However, her half-sister Della was not ever appreciative of the relationship. Lelia and Minna never lived that far apart from one another. Lelia and Minna lived down here in San Antonio (In fact, Minna signed my husband's Grandmother and Great-Grandmother's DAR papers as State Regent, and she personally knew the two women who joined the Alamo Chapter. Also, Robert Lewis Chalk died in San Antonio of a ruptured gallbladder. Minna had a stroke and passed down here. Lelia's daughter, Mary married a Ruckman from Karnes City. Her son, Trip still lives in Karnes City. Lelia and perhaps Madge Matthews of Belton plus probably Toncie Young of Killeen (to name just a couple of cousins) left "bread crumbs" in that public library in Belton. Minna started a genealogy library in San Antonio, those articles can be found at San Antonio College, downtown San Antonio.
Noralyn Page Ripps

Re: Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

franceswilless51 — 2013-01-25 23:40:25Z

Have you seen Nanny's Scrapbook on the Bell County genealogy web page at http://txbell.net/ ? It is a scrapbook kept by a member of the Chalk family years ago. I have no personal knowledge of the family, but you might find something helpful.

Re: Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

HL2604 — 2013-01-25 20:08:13Z

Appreciate your seperate response! When I viewed your tree, I noticed two children of R. L. Chalk were not included. They were: Lelia Blanche Dalton (2 Jan 1883 - 25 Apr 1975) and Robert Lee Chalk (3 May 1878 - 25 May 1878). I also observed incomplete lifespans for some of the Page children of Walter and some of the kids were listed under both wives. Anyway, ignore info you already possess? Granville Roderick Page (27 Jan 1893 - 18 Jun 1964), Walter Frederick Page (1895 - 22 Jul 1975), William David Page (11 May 1899 - 14 May 1974), and Leta May Kimbrel (1903-1986) were born to Martha Payne. Oakley Alfred Page(12 Nov 1906 - 3 Mar 1974), Arthur C. Page (29 Jun 1910 - 19 Dec 1968), Robert Arnold Page (24 Sep 1913 - 20 Apr 1977), Carl Edward Page (9 Feb 1914 - Nov 1971), Charles A. Page (29 Dec 1920 - 23 Aug 1976), Harvey Wilbur Page (12 Apr 1923 - 18 May 1971), and Ethel Mae Logsdon (born 30 Apr 1928) were born to Bessie Anita (nee: Sedberry) Page (11 Aug 1888 - 20 Nov 1961).

Walter Frederick Page and Nora Ethel Chalk, Belton, Texas: Page and Chalk lines

nripps2 — 2013-01-25 18:13:45Z

This is information that I have shared with Carla Page several years ago regarding the Chalk-Page lineage. However, this is really disheartening that I have to repeat this information again, as so much of it was incorrectly recorded in Ancestry.com

From William Roscoe Chalk descends a first born son, Robert Lewis Chalk.

My Grandmother, Nora Ethel Chalk Page (only child of the marriage of Robert Lewis Chalk and Sophia Walker Manning, 2nd spouse for both) was married to Walter Frederick Page (born at The Flat, located near Lake Belton).

For more information about Nora Ethel Chalk, see page 118 of the book, The Chalk Family of England and America, 1066-1942.

Nora Ethel Chalk Page died in Olney, Texas, and is buried next to my Grandfather in the Killeen City Cemetery. Her mother, Sophia Josephine Walker Manning Chalk” is buried in the same plot. Robert Lewis Chalk is buried in the South Belton Cemetery on Penelope St. next to his first wife, Annie Butcher.

My Grandfather, Walter Frederick Page, often wrote his name as W.F. Page or Walter F. Page. His father was Walter William Page, who died in Ft. Worth, TX. Walter William Page’s father, Stephen (Steven) Page was born in Florida. This branch of Texas Page family members came out of Florida…not Tennessee. Florida has many Page’s who settled there when the state opened in 1820.

Nora Ethel Chalk Page’s half-sister, Sarah Minna Chalk Scott Hyman was the author of the Chalk Family of England and America, 1066-1942. Sarah Minna was called “Minna” for short. Minna is the daughter of Annie Butcher (first spouse) and Robert Lewis Chalk. For more information about “Minna” see the above mentioned book, page 114.

Minna wrote in full about the Texas Branch of the Chalk Family that came out of North Carolina, into Maury County, TN and into Bell County, Texas. The Chalks along with the Blackburns packed up the farm and came to Texas en masse. One can find information about our ancestors descended from William Roscoe Chalk and Frances Omsby Blackburn on page 113 of the aforementioned book.

Also, to add further to the confusion, the second son of William Roscoe Chalk and Frances Omsby Blackburn, John William Douglas Chalk had a daughter named: Nora Elizabeth Chalk, born 26Dec1872, died 12Aug1940. Her only child died in infancy. She lived in Belton, TX as well. See the Chalk Family book, page 118.

I believe there is a presumption that a Nora “C.” Page is Nora Chalk Page. Not so. My Grandmother always went by Nora E(thel). Chalk. Not Nora “C.” As an example in the 1910 US Federal Census, Nora C. Page is a Page…not a Chalk. Nora C. Page’s parents are Bula S. Page and William I. Page.
From what I pulled out of Ancestry.com, there are several Nora Page that were born approximate to the year 1900, which put these Nora approximate to my Grandmother Nora Ethel Chalk’s birth, 19Aug1898. Obviously, “Nora” was a very popular name in the early 1900s.

The following is just a few the “Nora Page” that was pulled out of Ancestry.com for early 1900 Texas information.

Respectfully,
Noralyn Ann Page Ripps

1910 US Federal Census
Name: Nora C Page, born Sept. 1998, Henderson Co., TX
Mother: Bula S Page
Birth: Sep 1898 - Texas
Residence: Justice Precinct 4, Henderson, Texas

William I Page (Father)
25
Bula S Page
18
Nora C Page
1

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Married 1898 to Bula
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1910 US Federal Census
Name: Nora Page
Age in 1910: 10
Birth Year: 1900
Birthplace: Texas
Home in 1910: Justice Precinct 5, Cooke, Texas
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Tom F Page
Father's Birthplace: Mississippi
Mother's Name: Mollie Page
Mother's Birthplace: Texas

1930 US Federal Census
Name: Nora D Page
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1902
Birthplace: Texas
Race: White
Home in 1930: Dallas, Dallas, Texas
View Map

Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Claude R Page
Father's Birthplace: Georgia
Mother's Birthplace: Kentucky
Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Claude R Page
32
Nora D Page
28
Claude R Page
9
Ruth E Page
6

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1900 US Federal Census,
Name: Nora Page
Age: 1
Birth Date: May 1899
Birthplace: Texas
Home in 1900: Celeste, Hunt, Texas
[Hunt]
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Thomas Page
Father's Birthplace: Mississippi
Mother's Name: Mary E Page
Mother's Birthplace: Texas
Occupation: View on Image

Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
Joseph W Smith
45
Elizabeth Smith
33
Garland Smith
6
Purnery G Smith
5
Thomas Page
29
Mary E Page
25
Viola Page
5
Olive Page
3
Nora Page
1

Re: Edmund Zachariah Edwards - John W. Page

HL2604 — 2013-01-25 10:14:25Z

Easy! "Walter" Frederick Page was married to Nora Ethel Chalk. In the interest of clarity, I'm hoping someone will start a seperate posting? There were two families discussed originally. Walter Frederick's parents were Walter William Page and Martha Payne. Other children born to that couple: Granville Roderick, William David, and Letha May. Martha died ca. 1904 and Walter William Page married Bessie Anita Sedberry ca. 1906. They had: Oakley Alfred, Arthur C., Robert Arnold, Carl Edward, Charles A., Harvey Wilbur, and Ethel Mae. Nora Ethel Chalk was the daughter of Robert Lewis Chalk and second wife, Sarah J. (nee: Walker) Manning. They wed 21 Jan 1897 in Bell County. He was previously married to Anne Margaret Butcher. Sarah's first husband was Robert M. Manning and that union resulted in Cordelia (nee: Manning) Gray. I've read the earlier postings several times and appreciate your efforts to maintain clarity. I'm not related!

Re: HIERONYMUS, HOLCOMB

wilsonchaos5 — 2013-01-25 03:41:13Z

I am the granddaughter of Noble Hieronymus. If you are still interested let me know.

Re: Edmund Zachariah Edwards - John W. Page

PAGE_CARLA — 2013-01-25 03:25:40Z

i believe that my WILLIAM FREDERICK PAGE and his wife MAUDE STEVENSON PAGE are both buried in austin,texas

Re: Edmund Zachariah Edwards - John W. Page

PAGE_CARLA — 2013-01-25 03:12:29Z

no.1 nora ethel chalk was not married to william frederick page atleast my william frederick page anyway.he was married to MAUDE STEVENSON,she and WILLIAM FREDERICK PAGE ran a vacum cleaner business in AUSTIN texas.i have pictures of him and maude.you may email me cjpage1954@gmail.com

no.2.the JOHN W.PAGE that is buried in johnson county,missouri is NOT my JOHN W.PAGE they are two seperate different gentlemen.

no.3.i believe that my JOHN W.PAGE and his wife FANNIE FRANCIS MCFERRIN are buried in the edgefield cemetery in woodbury,tennessee,their slave CELIA DOUGLAS is buried in the oliver-mcferrin cemetery in woodbury,tennessee.

Re: Edmund Zachariah Edwards - John W. Page

HL2604 — 2013-01-24 19:59:39Z

Please discuss "differences" via this pulic format? I wasn't part of the original discussion but I see your point(s). However, your tree has many holes that can possibly be filled with public inputs. An example are the parents of Robert Lewis Chalk buried in same cemetery but missing from your tree.

Re: Edmund Zachariah Edwards - John W. Page

nripps2 — 2013-01-24 17:20:48Z

If you still exist out there, please reply privately to: nripps2@satx.rr.com. This is some erroneous info listed. Thanks. N.Ripps

Re: Hellen Roberta "Bertie" Smith from (near) Naples and Belton, Texas

nlloydj — 2013-01-05 15:47:17Z

Wow, thanks so much! There is a lot of information for me to process here but from what I just read this is exactly what I was looking for. You just gave me a huge breakthrough for my family's history. I can't thank you enough.

Re: Hellen Roberta "Bertie" Smith from (near) Naples and Belton, Texas

PaSain — 2013-01-05 07:13:19Z

Naples is in Morris Co TX.

Helen Roberta "Bertie" Smith married C H Mears abt 1890 when she was about 17 years old, had 6 children, divorced Cage H Mears married Joseph A Hunkeler/Hunkleler in Jackson Co MO in 1905, before 1910 she married Fred Murray, in 1917/1918 she was married to unknown Hughes, in 1920 husband was Otto "Guss" born in Germany.

Her aunt was Martha G HAYNES Charlton/Charleton, who took her in. Martha was born in Tennessee about 1843 dtr of George L W Haynes of VA and Sarah of GA who came to Titus Co TX by 1850 via Tennessee. Martha married John Charleton of AL in Morris Co 1878.

I personally think her mother was Cleopatra Haynes.

name: Cage Miars / Mears
event: Marriage
event date: 29 May 1915
event place: Little River, Arkansas, United States
age: 46
estimated birth year: 1869
residence: Alleene, Little River, Arkansas
spouse: Barbara Norwood
spouse's age: 36
spouse's estimated birth year: 1879
spouse's residence: Alleene, Little River, Arkansas
marriage license date: 29 May 1915
page: 242
film number: 1007918
digital folder number: 004401613
image number: 00569
Citing this Record
"Arkansas, County Marriages, 1837-1957," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org

name: John Norwood
event: Marriage
event date: 30 Apr 1913
event place: Little River, Arkansas, United States
age: 52
estimated birth year: 1861
residence: Alleene, Little River, Arkansas
spouse: Mrs. Barbara Stevens
spouse's age: 35
spouse's estimated birth year: 1878
spouse's residence: Alleene, Little River, Arkansas
marriage license date: 30 Apr 1913
page: 155
film number: 1007918
digital folder number: 004401613
image number: 00134

name: Henry Stephens
event: Marriage
event date: 19 Jul 1897
event place: Little River, Arkansas, United States
age: 22
estimated birth year: 1875
residence: Alleene, Little River, Arkansas
spouse: Barbara Seastrunk
spouse's age: 20
spouse's estimated birth year: 1877
spouse's residence: Little River, Arkansas
marriage license date: 19 Jul 1897
page: 159
film number: 1007914
digital folder number: 004368523
image number: 00127

1880 Pct 3, Morris Co TX
self John Charlton/Charleton M 39 Alabama, 1841 father VA mother AL
wife Martha G. Charlton F 35 Tennessee, 1845 parents GA
niece Birty Smith F 7 Texas, says both parents born TX

groom's name: J. H. Charlton
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Martha Haynes
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 09 Jun 1878
marriage place: Morris, Texas
indexing project (batch) number: M59260-1
system origin: Texas-VR
source film number: 1435331
reference number: 2:VWX7JC
Citing this Record
"Texas, Marriages, 1837-1973," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FXQV-52D : accessed 05 Jan 2013), J. H. Charlton and Martha Haynes, 09 Jun 1878

John was from Sumter Co AL son of Tapley Charleton b. VA 1810 - 1821 wife was Matilda born AL
Elizabeth Charlton F 6 Alabama
Eliza Charlton F 4 Alabama
John Charlton M 8 Alabama
Robert Charlton M 3 Alabama
James Charlton M 2 Alabama

1860 Sumterville PO, northern division, Sumter, AL
Tapley Charleton 50 VA
Matilda Charleton 36 AL
John Charleton 18
Mary E Charleton 17
Eliza J Charleton 16
Robert A Charleton 13
Jonas Charleton 11 still in Sumter Co in 1880
Edward A Charleton 7
Nancy A Charleton 6
Tapley F Charleton 4 living w/Jonas in 1880
Delia V Charleton 1

1850 Titus Co TX
G W L Haynes M 42 Virginia
Sarah Haynes F 34 Georgia
F H Haynes M 13 Tennessee
Cleopatra Haynes F 10 Tennessee
Martha Haynes F 6 Tennessee
Andrew Haynes M 3 Texas
James Haynes M 1 Texas

1860 Mt Pleasant, Titus TX
G W L Harres 56 VA
Sarah Harres 44 GA
Chopatra Harres 20 TN
M G Harres 16 TN - Martha G
A J Harres 14 TX male
J K P Harres 10 TX male
Dulcuma Harres 8 TX female
Lucinda Harres 7 TX
Cinderella Harres 3 TX
L M Harres 7/12 TX female

1870; Census Place: , Mt Pleasant PO, Titus, Texas; Roll: M593_1606; Page: 56A; Image: 115; Family History Library Film: 553105.
George W L Haynes 66 VA 1804
Sarah Haynes 54 GA 1816 supposed to be a Clark
Martha Haynes 27 TN 1843 married J H Charlton 09 June 1878 Morris Co
Andrew J Haynes 24 TX lived in Morris Co in 1880
James K Haynes 21 TX married Sarah Hathhorm 06 Mar 1878 Morris Co
Deluma Haynes 17 TX female
Lucinda Haynes 15 TX married John Davis 10 Apr 1878 Morris Co
Belle Haynes 12 TX aka Cinderella married Jas or Tas Mitchel 28 Feb 1877 Morris Co reported death in Little River Co AR 1936
Louisa M Haynes 10 TX

1900; Census Place: Burke, Little River, Arkansas; Roll: 65; Page: 2B; Enumeration District: 0073; FHL microfilm: 1240065.
# 40/42
James P Mars 35 born LA Mar 1865 married 5 yrs
Judith F Mars Arp 1866 MO no children
# 41/43
Cage E Mars age 37 born LA Sept 1862 married 10 yrs
Birdie J Mars age 26 born Nov 1873 TX bore 5 children all living said father born MS mother born TX
Fayetty Mars Oct 1890 TX dtr
Eugeni A Mars Dec 1891 AR dtr
Rubin/Ruby M Mars Jan 1894 AR
John Hillery Mars Feb 1896 AR - Mar 1965 Harrison Boone Co ?
William Harrison Mars June 1897 AR
Martha G Charleton Feb 1844 TN widowed aunt, no children father VA mother GA
Sylvia Mears 1900 AR (after 1900 census)

1910 Burke, Little River, AR
self Cara H Mears M 44y Louisiana widowed father MS mother LA
son John H Mears M 14y Arkansas 1896 mother TX
son William H Mears M 11y Arkansas 1899 mother TX

John "Hilry" Mears claimed to be born in DeKalb Texas 09 Feb 1896 registered WW I draft in Kansas City, Jackson Co, MO 05 June 1917 claimed he had a mother to support had been employed as a brass finisher for Star Bros Works. He was short, slender, blue eyes, dark brown hair. He lived at 2310 Prospect in 1916. He died March 1965 Harrison, Boone Co AR ss # issued thru railroad board. He is buried in Bergman, Boone County

William Harrison Mears claimed he was born 01 June 1898 registered WW I draft in Kansas City, Jackson Co MO 10 Sept 1918. He was a fireman for railroad in Kansas City lived at 1212 E 12th Street and Mrs. Bertie Hughes at same address was his nearest relative. He died 10 Oct 1961

Name: William H Mears
Birth Date: 1 Jun 1898
Age at Death: 63
Death Date: 10 Oct 1961
Burial Place: Woodland Cem, Independence, Jackson County, Missouri, USA
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...

He died at Mem Hosp in Lamar, Barton Co after 2 days lived 7 miles east of Sheldon in Vernon County MO, railroader & farmer, born Aleene, AR, Tessie McDavitt Mears informant, father Cage H Mears, mother Helen R Smith. Tessie M McDavitt Mears 17 Oct 1898 - 22 Nov 1993 buried same place. She died in Shawnee Mission, Johnson Co KS per ss death record.

C H Mears was not widowed as he claimed to be in 1910.

Joseph A Hunkeler/Hunkleler age 24 of Jackson Co MO and Bertie Mears of Jackson Co MO, age 29, married 16 June 1905 in Jackson Co.

23 April 1910 Kansas City, Jackson, Missouri, 905 McGee Street
self Fred Murray M 27y Missouri married once 3 yrs parents MO shipping clerk for wholesale liquor
wife Birtie H Murray F 33y Texas said married twice bore 6 children all living said her father was born in Ireland/English mother born in TN. . .Cleopatra Haynes ? she was servant in private home
dau Eugenia Mears F 18y Arkansas clerk in dry goods store
dau Sylvia Mears F 10y Arkansas

Freda Mears age 18 and Lee M Rengler/Ringler age 21 married 17 Jul 1907 Jackson Co MO

Ruby Mears age 17 and George Lepik age 31 married 10 Dec 1910 Jackson Co MO her mother was Mrs. Bertie Murry.

Name: Ruby Mears
Age: 17
Birth Date: abt 1893
Marriage Date: 10 Dec 1910
Marriage Location: Jackson, Missouri
Marriage County: Jackson
Spouse Name: George Lepik
Spouse Age: 31
Spouse Birth Date: abt 1879
Mother's Name: Mrs. Bertie Murry

1920 McCurtain, OK
self C H Mears M 53y Louisiana MS LA
wife Barbary Mears F 42y Louisiana AL AL
son Denson W Mears M 1y7m Arkansas
step dtr Nona Stevens F 12y Arkansas 1908 father Texas
step dtr Stella Norwod F 7y Arkansas 1913 father Arkansas

1920 Kansas City, Jackson, MO
Otto A Guss 34 born Germany arrived 1884 naturalized 1890 lived at 1017 Fuller Ave car carpenter for railroad
Bertie Guss 43 born TX said father born Ireland/English said mother born TX
John H Mears 23 AR stepson tool ? for railroad

1930 Clear Creek, Sevier, AR
head C H Mears M 63 Louisiana
wife Barbra Mears F 53 Louisiana
daughter Estella Mears (NORWOOD) F 17 Arkansas father TN married 17 Sept 1932 Sevier Co resident of Horatio to Woodroe Martin who was 21also of Horatio
son Denson Mears M 11 Arkansas
son Harold Mears M 9 Arkansas

Name: C H Mears
Death Day: 13
Death Month: May
Death Year: 1930
County: Sevier
Roll Number: 19241933

Name: Cary H Mears
Birth Date: 13 Sep 1867
Age at Death: 62
Death Date: 13 May 1930
Burial Place: Alleene Cemetery, Alleene, Little River County, Arkansas, USA
URL: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-...
Barbara Seastrunk Mears 1877 - 1942
Created by: Joanne Turner
Record added: Sep 01, 2008
Find A Grave Memorial# 29480620

1930 Kansas City, Jackson, MO
head William H Mears M 31 Arkansas married 28 Aug 1918 Jackson Co
wife Tessie L McDavitt Mears F 31 Missouri

Denson Woodrow Mears 07 May 1918 - 16 Apr 1997 Bowie Co TX
married Anna L Miles 25 Sept 1937 Miller Co AR

married Irene Tool 14 Jul 1950 Miller Co AR lived in Texarkana, Bowie Co TX, she lived in Texarkana was 34.

name: Denson W Mears
titles & terms:
event: Marriage
event date: 22 Nov 1982
event place: Bowie, Texas, United States
age: 64
estimated birth year: 1918
spouse: Jewel L Templeton
spouse's age: 70
spouse's estimated birth year: 1912
certificate number: 163927
county code: 019

name: Denson W Mears
titles & terms:
event: Divorce
event date: 19 Jan 1990
event place: Wilbarger, Texas, United States
age: 71
marriage date: 24 Nov 1981
estimated birth year: 1919
spouse: Jewell L Mears
spouse's age: 77
spouse's estimated birth year: 1913
number of children under age 18: 0
certificate number: 005340
county code: 244

name: David Wayne Mears
event: Birth
event date: 26 Jun 1963
event place: Bowie, Texas
gender: Male
father: Denson Woodrow Mears
mother: Murll Lindsey

Murline Mears 19 Feb 1957 Bowie Co father D W Mears mother Murll Lindsey