Atascosa - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: CASPER DANZ FAMILY HISTORY

DonBomer777 — 2012-12-15 00:03:30Z

Unfortunately, Dorothy Bauer has passed away, as have my two cousins, Doris Gilpatrick and Edna Felps. I do not foresee any future updates or availability of this magnificant work.

Warm regards,

Don Bomer...

Re: CASPER DANZ FAMILY HISTORY

DonBomer777 — 2012-12-15 00:03:05Z

Re: Goins surname

txlydia11 — 2012-12-06 14:38:03Z

Thanks so much for responding. Yes, we have tried several times searching records at the courthouse. As I mentioned in my earlier email, the only document any of us have come across is their marriage license, and some census records show her as part of the Tomas LeRoy Goins household.

After his death, we are not able to find anything else about her. It is thought that she may have moved away from Atascosa County. My mother did not speak often of her, so I have no knowledge of her mother's side of the family. Any information will be appreciated.

Many thanks.

Re: Goins surname

rrministry — 2012-12-06 06:00:04Z

Hi, I will ask my relatives in Floresville if they know anything about my great grandfather's Pedro Sendejo's family history. I do know that so many of the older relatives are now deceased. If you could find a birth or death certificate at the court house or information from the local church. The church keeps records of all baptisms, burials and location of graves. Good luck to you. Rebecca Rocha

Re: Goins surname

txlydia11 — 2012-12-05 20:02:50Z

Hi Rebecca,

I would love to get information regarding anything about the Sendejo's. My mother's mother, "Irene, Yrena, or Irene Sendejo;" however, i never have been able to find anything other than her marriage record. What happened to her, where she's buried. All we know is that she was married to L. Goins, and resided in Atascosa county, I'm not sure if it was Pleasanton, Jourdanton, or Poteet.

I hope to hear from you.

My personal email: txlydia1@gmail.com

Re: Goins surname

rrministry — 2012-12-03 07:09:16Z

Lydia, my name is Rebecca Rocha. My mother's maiden name was Sendejo from Floresville. I have many relatives there by the name of Sendejo. My grandfather was Isidro sendejo and great grandfather was Pedro Sendejo both from Floresville, Tx. Just wanted to let you know in case you are stil looking for your family history. I am also in the process of doing doing a family history. Let me know if I can help you. Thank you. Rebecca Rocha

Re: Gregorio Esparza

catalinarucker59 — 2012-11-25 16:20:47Z

I am a direct descendant of Gregorio Esparza through one of his children, Manuel Esparza. Manuel had a daughter named Petra Esparza who married Cornelio Valdez. These two parents then had a child by the name of Clemente P. Valdez who married Juanita Alvarado. This married couple had seven children one of whom is Consuelo Valdez who married Jesus Mendez,thus, along came Catalina Suzanna Mendez. We all resided/reside in San Antonio, Texas, USA

Re: PABLO OLIVARRI GENEOLOGY

cumpian55 — 2012-11-17 17:47:39Z

I sent an email was it recieved

Re: Winn/De La Garza

lester358 — 2012-10-28 02:29:42Z

parents possibly be Rafael Dela Garza and wife Cifava(sp) had daughter Adelita age 12 1860 census

Re: need help with name on WWI draft card

1shepherd1 — 2012-09-23 17:29:47Z

Quite belatedly but I agree the name is of Leming, Texas.

Re: Gregorio Esparza

esparzasd — 2012-09-23 06:59:22Z

I am a descendant of Gregorio Esparza. My family actually has a book of relatives dating back much further than his parents and showing they're ancestors deriving from Spain (I believe, since I have not seen the book in some time) somewhere near the Basque area. We also have Salinas lines (from my grandmother) as well as Perez. The others I cannot for the life of me remember. Would love to see what else you have found!

Re: SHOEMAKE, TOMERLIN/TOMBLIN, BRUMMETT, SADLER, JONES, BISHOP, LONG, WINTERS

hannflair — 2012-09-05 16:15:42Z

Tomerlin cemetery is online with list of all the graves. It is on Farm to market road way out in the country.

Re: Esparza

benavidesg33 — 2012-09-05 15:19:00Z

Thanks for your help..
George

Re: Esparza

nlpeche — 2012-09-05 15:09:02Z

George,

Correct those were Victor Esparza's children with his first wife. I have no further information on them nor do I know if Victor & 1st wife had more children. They were baptized at San Fernando Church. If I had more time I'd research the San Antonio Public Library for further records to see if they died or when Francisa Barrigan Esparza died but my time is limited for the next months.

Nancy

Re: Esparza

benavidesg33 — 2012-09-05 12:42:27Z

The children that he had with francisca were Petronito Henriquez Esparza b:31 May 1881 - Died ???
Enrique Esparza b:05 Oct 1882 - Died ???
I don't have any information on these children if they died in childhood or if they moved to Mexico. And if Victor and Francisca had any more children? Can you answer these questions for me.

Sincerely,
George R. Benavides

Re: Esparza

nlpeche — 2012-09-05 00:03:02Z

According to his death certificate, Jesus F. Ramon is buried at San Fernando # 2
possibly with his wife Salome (Sally) Robles.
I have no proof where she is buried, death cartificates are not available online in 1987. I'm sure Kathleen Ramon knows where she's buried.

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Collection: Texas Deaths, 1890-1976
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Name: Jesus F. Ramon
Death date: 31 Mar 1950
Death place: Brooke General Hospital, Ft. Sam Houston, Bexar, Texas
Cause of Death: Accident, Home, hemorrhage, subdural, fracture of skull
Date of accident: March 23, 1950
Gender: Male
Race or color (on document): white
Age at death: 53 years 3 months 8 days
Estimated birth year: 1897
Birth date: 23 Dec 1890
Was deceased in the Military: Yes, WWI
Birthplace: Texas
Marital status: Married
Spouse's name:
Father's name: Unknown
Father's birthplace: Unknown
Mother's name: Martina Esparza
Mother's birthplace: Texas
Occupation: Grocer
Residence: San Antonio, Bexar, Texas
Cemetery name: San Fernando #2
Burial place: San Antonio, Tex.
Burial date: 03 Apr 1950
Additional relatives:
Informant: Official Records, Brooke General Hospital, Ft. Sam Houston, Texas
Film number: 2074337
Digital GS number: 4165884
Image number: 670
Reference number: cn 9999
Collection: Texas Deaths, 1890-1976
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Re: Esparza

benavidesg33 — 2012-09-05 00:00:43Z

Who know I've been there once..
Thanks

Re: Esparza

nlpeche — 2012-09-04 23:54:40Z

He's buried in Losoya Cemetery, according to his death certificate, so I'm assuming it's the El Carmen Cemetery, Losoya, Bexar County, Texas where his father Enrique Esparza is buried.

I wonder if there are burial records for the El Carmen Cemetery.

Re: Esparza

benavidesg33 — 2012-09-04 23:10:35Z

Thanks, Nancy I hope you and your family are doing well. Do you have any idea where Victor is buried at, is it in El Carmen? The same with Jesus Ramon I'm looking for their gravesite.

Thks,
George

Re: Esparza

nlpeche — 2012-09-04 22:34:33Z

Hi George,

Victor Esparza married two times. As far as I could find in the San Fernando Church Baptisms, he had children with his 1st wife, Francisca Barragon not his 2nd wife Martina de los Santos.

Jesus was not the son of Victor Esparza & Martina de los Santos. Jesus Ramon was son of Martina de los Santos & her first husband ??? Ramon.

Look at my posting to Kathleen Ramon, the census for Victor Esparza & 2nd wife Martina de los Santos are listed for 1900 & 1910. She was married 2 times as was Victor Esparza.

As far as I can tell, Jesus F. Ramon was not the son of Victor Esparza, he was the step son according to the 1910 census.

Re: SHOEMAKE, TOMERLIN/TOMBLIN, BRUMMETT, SADLER, JONES, BISHOP, LONG, WINTERS

Botbldr45 — 2012-09-04 18:20:12Z

How is the Shoemake family related to the Tomblin family?

Does anybody know who Reno "Bud" Tomblin, my GF, father was??

Re: SHOEMAKE, TOMERLIN/TOMBLIN, BRUMMETT, SADLER, JONES, BISHOP, LONG, WINTERS

Botbldr45 — 2012-09-04 18:17:17Z

Is the Brummett Cemetary the same as the Tomblin Cemetary

Re: Esparza

benavidesg33 — 2012-09-04 13:06:24Z

Wow, Kathleen I've been looking for ya'll, So sorry that I missed your reunion, but thanks for responding. I would love to chat with you and your family and I can tell you everything you need to know on the esparza's. We are planing our 2nd Gregorio & Anna Esparza reunion in 2013 sometime. Would love for you to attend. I need to get your information on the Ramon family and what you know. Please, I will call you tonight at around 7pm if that's ok and where do you live in San Antonio?

Sincerely,
George R. Benavides
Tu Primo

Re: Esparza

nlpeche — 2012-09-04 03:39:21Z

Jesus F. Ramon was the son of Martina de los Santos & Unknown Ramon. Martina married 2nd Victor Esparza son of Enrique Esparza & Maria Gertrudis Hernandez.

The following is Jesus F. Ramon in the census along with his death record. Notice his father is unknown on his death certificate.

I've also included my research on Victor Esparza, his 1st marriage, death certificate & census.

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Texas Marriages, 1851-1900, Ancestry.com
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Name: VICTOR ESPARZA
Spouse: FRANSCIA BARAGAN
Marriage Date: 22 May 1880
County: Atascosa
State: TX
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Census read by Nancy Agnew Peché:
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1880 CENSUS, ED # 8, 3-PCT, Atascosa Co., TX
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Ancestry.com - T9-1289; Page 300 A; Image:
June 23, 1880

177 / 178
10. ESPARZA, Enrique, Self, Married, m, w, 52, TX, TX, TX, Farmer
11. ___, Gertrude, Wife, Married, f, w, 59, TX, TX, TX, Keeps House
12. ___, Gertrude, Dau., Single, f, w, 28, TX, TX, TX, At Home
13. ___, Polonia, Dau., Single, f, w, 24, TX, TX, TX, At Home
14. ___, Vicente, Son, Single, m, w, 19, TX, TX, TX, Wks On Farm
15. ___, Francis, Wife, Married, f, w, 19, TX, TX, TX, At Home

Line 14. Vicente (Victor) Esparza, husband of Line 15.
LIne 15. Francis Barragan, wife of Line 14. Vicente Esparza.
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Census read by Nancy Agnew Peché:
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1900 CENSUS, ED # 3; 1 J-PCT, Atascosa Co., TX
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Ancestry.com - Roll T623_1608; Page: 223; Sheet: 16A; Image: # 31 of 34
June 30, 1900

262 / 272
29. ESPARZA, Victor, Head, w, m, MAR 1862, 38, Married 4 years, TX, TX, TX, Farmer
30. ___, Martina, Wife, w, f, MAR 1872, 28, Married 4 years, 4 children, 2 living, TX, MEX, MEX
31. ___, Jesus, Son, m, w, DEC 1888, 11, TX, TX, TX, Farm laborer
32. CERDA, Antonio, Brother-in-law, w, m, UN, 1885, 15, S, MEX, MEX, MEX, Farm Laborer
33. ___, Carmel, Sister-in-law, w, f, UN, 1884, 14, S, MEX, MEX, MEX

Victor and Martina were married only 4 years according to the 1900 census; therefore,
Jesus was the son of Martina from her 1st marriage to First Name Unknown, Ramon.
A Jesus Ramon, stepson, age 21 is listed in the 1910 census who must be Martina's son by her 1st marriage.
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Census read by Nancy Agnew Peché:
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1910 CENSUS, ED # 81, 50-PCT, Losoya, Bexar Co., TX
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Ancestry.com - Roll: T624_1533, Page: 79, Sheet 6 B; Image: 161 - # 9 of 14
April 26, 1910

14 / 14
99. ESPARZA, Victor, Head, m, w, 48, M2, 12 years, TX, TX, TX, Saloon Keeper, Own Saloon
100. ___, Martina, Wife, f, w, 38, M2, 12 years, 1 child, 1 living, MEX, MEX, MEX, None

Page 80: Sheet: 7 A; Image: 162 - # 10 of 14
14 / 14
1. RAMON, Jesus, Stepson, m, w, 21, Single, TX, TX, MEX, Bar tender, Saloon
2. GALINDO, Candalaria, Companion, f, w, 8, TX, MEX, TX, None

Line 99. Victor Esparza was married according to the 1910 census 2 times.
Line 100. Martina de los Santos according to the 1910 census was married 2 times.
Line 1. Jesus Ramon was the child of Martina.
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Census read by Nancy Agnew Peché:
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1920 CENSUS, ED # 119, 8-PCT, Bexar Co., TX
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Ancestry.com - Roll: T625_1780; Page: 216; Sheet: 2B; Image: 434 - # 4 of 17
January 14, 1920

47 /50
100. ESPARZA, Victor, Head, m, w, 55, married, TX, TX, TX, Laborer, Camp Stanley

Page: 217; Sheet: 3 A; Image: 435 - # 5 of 17
47 / 50
1. ESPARZA, Martina, Wife, f, w, 45, married, citzenship 1890, MEX, MEX, MEX, None
2. MARTINEZ, Adrella, Boardere, f, w, 13, S, TX, MEX, MEX, None
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Collection: Texas Deaths, 1890-1976
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Name: Victor Esparza
Death date: 03 Jun 1927
Death place: Robert B. Green Hosptial, San Antonio, Bexar, Texas
Cause of Death: Gunshot wound of abdomen (accidental)
Gender: Male
Residence: Losoya, Texas
Race or color (on document): White
Age at death: 66 years
Estimated birth year:
Birth date: 1861
Birth place: Texas
Marital status: Married
Spouse name:
Occupation: Laborer
Father name: Enrigue Esparza
Father birth place: Tex.
Mother name: Gertrudis Hernandez
Mother birth place: Tex.
Occupation: Laborer
Residence:
Cemetery name: Losoya Cem.
Burial place: Losoya, Bexar County, Texas
Burial date: 05 Jun 1927
Additional relatives: X
Informant: Martin Esparza
Film number: 2114277
Digital GS number: 4165539
Image number: 3301
Reference number: cn 18627
Collection: Texas Deaths, 1890-1976
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Census read by Nancy Agnew Peché:
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1930 CENSUS, ED # 183; PCT-6, Losoya, Bexar Co., TX
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Ancestry.com - Roll 2299; Page: 99; Sheet: 1A; Image: 766 - # 1 of 35
April 15, 1930

Indexed: Jesus Ramon
Indexed: Marina Espaza

Old Corpus Christi Road / __ / 11 / 13
21. RAMON, Jesus, Head, m, w, 42, Married 1st time @ age 33; TX, Mexico, Mexico,
22. ___, Sallie, Wife, f, w, 31, Married 1st time @ age 22; TX, TX, TX, None
23. ___, Joe, Son, m, w, 7, S, TX, TX, TX, None
24. ___, Raul, Son, m, w, 6, S, TX, TX, TX, None
25. ___, Mary, Dau., f, w, 4 9/12, S, TX, TX, TX, None
26. ___, Isabelle, Dau., f, w, 2, S, TX, TX, TX, None
27. ___, Virginia, Dau., f, w, 6/12, S, TX, TX, TX, None
28. ESPARZA, Martina, Mother, f, w, 55, Widow, MEX, MEX, MEX, None
29. RODRIGUEZ, Tamara, Lodger, f, w, 30, Widow, TX, TX, TX, None
30. ___, Ophelia, Lodger, f, w, 7, S, TX, TX, TX, None

Line 28. Martina widow of Victor Esparza who died 03 Jun 1927.
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Collection: Texas Deaths, 1890-1976
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Name: Martina Esparza
Death date: 12 Jan 1934
Death place: Santa Rosa Hospital, San Antonio, Bexar, Texas
Gender: Female
Race or color (on document): White
Age at death: 54 years
Estimated birth year:
Birth date: 1879
Birthplace: Texas
Marital status: Widowed
Spouse's name: D.K.
Father's name: Unknown
Father's birthplace: Unknown
Mother's name: Unknown
Mother's birthplace: Unknown
Occupation: Housework
Residence:
Cemetery name: San Fernando #2
Burial place:
Burial date: 13 Jan 1934
Additional relatives: X
Informant: Jesus Ramon
Address: 230 Pastores
Film number: 2115948
Date Filed: January 14, 1934
Digital GS number: 4165921
Image number: 373
Reference number: v X cn 350
Collection: Texas Deaths, 1890-1976
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Collection: Texas Deaths, 1890-1976
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Name: Jesus F. Ramon
Death date: 31 Mar 1950
Death place: Brooke General Hospital, Ft. Sam Houston, Bexar, Texas
Cause of Death: Accident, Home, hemorrhage, subdural, fracture of skull
Date of accident: March 23, 1950
Gender: Male
Race or color (on document): white
Age at death: 53 years 3 months 8 days
Estimated birth year: 1897
Birth date: 23 Dec 1890
Was deceased in the Military: Yes, WWI
Birthplace: Texas
Marital status: Married
Spouse's name:
Father's name: Unknown
Father's birthplace: Unknown
Mother's name: Martina Esparza
Mother's birthplace: Texas
Occupation: Grocer
Residence: San Antonio, Bexar, Texas
Cemetery name: San Fernando #2
Burial place: San Antonio, Tex.
Burial date: 03 Apr 1950
Additional relatives:
Informant: Official Records, Brooke General Hospital, Ft. Sam Houston, Texas
Film number: 2074337
Digital GS number: 4165884
Image number: 670
Reference number: cn 9999
Collection: Texas Deaths, 1890-1976
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Re: Esparza

KathleenRamon — 2012-09-04 03:05:12Z

These are my grandparents! My Father is Jesus Robles Ramon..

Re: Esparza

KathleenRamon — 2012-09-04 02:50:12Z

My name is Kathleen Ramon. My Grandfather is Jesus F. Ramon.
My Grandmother's name is Sally Robles Ramon.

Our Ramon Reunion was 9/1/12- I recently found out that Gregorio Esparza is our relation.

Hopefully I can find out more information.

Kathleen Ramon
816-838-9903

Re: RAGSDALE,STIDHAM,MCDONALD,FORREST

lrpelham1 — 2012-09-04 00:54:57Z

I'm interested in the Ragsdale line that moved to Palestine Texas. If you have any information on them please feel free to share.

Re: Pelham's in Atascosa

lrpelham1 — 2012-09-04 00:41:44Z

thank you for all of this information. If you come across anything on a Mary Polly Williams married to Stephen B. Pelham please fill free to let me know; Or Sarah Sally Pelham married to George Williams.

Re: Searching for the Leal family

1_rlaque — 2012-08-31 21:39:02Z

Hi Marie I was fascinated that you know a Charo! MY husband's grandmother was Diamontina Charo and lived in Lytle with her husband Antonio Laque. I know she had family in Somerset/Pearsall but that's all I know. Hope you can help me! This is so exciting! Rose Laque

Re: Pelham's in Atascosa

PaSain — 2012-08-25 03:50:28Z

Groom's Name: Alsey S. Miller
Groom's Birth Date:
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Bride's Name: Permelia King
Bride's Birth Date:
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Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 07 Apr 1842
Marriage Place: , Gonzales, Texas
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Groom's Race:
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Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M53013-1
System Origin: Texas-VR
Source Film Number: 1310949
Reference Number: 2:2CQKDK1
Source Citation
"Texas, Marriages, 1837-1973," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org

Rebecca Jane Pelham married John Overlander
01 Mar 1847 , Gonzales, Texas

Event Date: 1850
Event Place: Gonzales county, part of, Gonzales, Texas, United
A S Miller M 30 North Carolina
Permelia Miller F 24 Texas
Mary Ann Miller F 7 Texas
Wm Miller M 4 Texas
Thomas Miller M 2 Texas
James Miller M 0 Texas
Henry Wade M 28 Tennessee
A W Pelham M 24 Alabama
C Mettza M 55 Germany
Joseph Mettza M 15 Germany
Benjamin Adams M 35 Missouri

Wright Williams 1832 Alabama ? of Butler Co father George born NC wife of George Mary born SC
Luvana GATES Williams 1844 Arkansas married Atascosa Co 13 May 1858
children: George Wm Williams TX 22 Jul 1860 died in Atascosa Co 30 Jul 1931 buried Poteet Cem, Andrew W Williams 1864 TX, James F Williams 1866 TX . . .still in Atascosa Co in 1870, Daniel G Williams 13 Mar 1875 - 17 Feb 1948 Poteet, Atascosa Co

Asa Wright Pelham 1832 Alabama
Mary/Polly Pelham 1842 Alabama
Mary Pelham 1858 Texas
J Pelham 1860 Texas male

Name: Asa W Pelham
Birthplace: Alabama
Registry Date: 26 Nov 1869
County: Houston
Line Number: 1878
Archive Name: Texas State Library and Archives
Archive Collection Title: 1867 Voter Registration Lists
Archive Reel Number: 7

1880 Residence: Houston, Texas
SELF Asy W. Pellam M 55 Alabama, reported death 17 Oct 1882 born Dallas Co Alabama
WIFE Polly Ann Weisinger Pellam F 37 Alabama, United States
DAU Mary Pernelia Pellam F 22 Texas 16 Oct 1858, married James D Baker 20 Dec 1882 Houston County died Elkhart, Anderson Co 25 Feb 1943
SON Asy Wright Pellam M 20 Houston Co Texas 15 Jan 1862 - 08 July 1938 Elkhart, Anderson Co wife Mary mother "Mariam Weisinger"
SON John Mathias Pellam M 18 Texas, United States
DAU Berta Pellam F 17 Houston Co Texas 10 Apr 1864 married John Wiley Caskey 02 Aug 1883 Houston Co died Houston Co 24 Jan 1904 pedigree record father Asa Wright Pelham mother Polly Ann Weisinger
DAU Alice Pellam Guice F 13 Texas, - 22 Feb 1941 Grapeland, Houston Co
DAU Ella Pellam F 10 Texas, United States
DAU Henretta Pellam F 5 Texas, United States

Groom's Name: A. W. Pelham
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Mary A. Herod
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 24 Feb 1884
Marriage Place: Houston, Texas
Groom's Father's Name:
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Groom's Race:
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Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03039-8
System Origin: Texas-EASy
Source Film Number: 1020082
Reference Number: 145
Source Citation
"Texas, Marriages, 1837-1973," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org

I am not related.

Re: LANGLEY & others search

woodland08 — 2012-08-24 17:23:30Z

Hi Been working on my gggrandfather Augustus Gustavus Langley Born Abt. 1804 they were from Southern Maryland. Could there be any connection??????

Pelham's in Atascosa

lrpelham1 — 2012-08-22 01:24:09Z

I am looking for any information on Asa Pelham who resided with his wife and two children in Atascosa in 1860. They lived next door to Wright Williams. Any information would be appriciated.

Re: Welcome to the Atascosa County query system

1shepherd1 — 2012-08-05 00:32:30Z

Would like to have descendants contact me who are related to or anyone who has information about the following: Estanislado Reyes, Procopio Reyes, Pedro Reyes, for example -- I believe they are part of my extended family... My grandfather was buried in 1931 at St Joseph Cemetery outside of Leming, Texas...
He had relatives in places such as Pleasanton, Jourdanton, Charlotte, Von Ormy, Poteet, Three Rivers, Campbellton, McCoy, for example, but when he died the family moved away and contact with the rest of his family was lost... He was originally from the state of Durango in Mexico, and prior to coming to Atascosa County he lived also in Torreon, MOnterrey, Lerdo, Gomez Palacio in Mexico..
Would welcome any responses that might bring me into contact with families that might have connection to my grandfather's and mother's family.
Thank you for reading this and hopefully I will get a response so that I might be able to reconstruct my extended family tree.
Ed

Re: Fairview cemetary and Wright

jrroam — 2012-07-22 17:40:17Z

Thank you for the information on James Henry Wright and Pleasant Wright. I am sorry that it took me so long to respond. The map of Pleasant Wright's lands is helpful. I have property near Boerne on Hyw 46.

Re: Searching for the Leal family

marie42340 — 2012-07-04 20:43:37Z

Well, if you have done this for 45yrs I cannot help. I just click and search.
As far as the neighbor, can't help you either,
She is just a neighbor, and I have no idea if she would appreciate giving out her name.
Maria

Re: Searching for the Leal family

jcestes985 — 2012-07-04 19:15:29Z

Thank you. Who is your neighbor ? I was married to a Charo & had a child & grandchildren . I have been a genealogist 45 years plus. So i do my own research and that of others. Thank you, Cheri Estes

Re: Searching for the Leal family

marie42340 — 2012-07-04 17:44:48Z

Hi Mary, I posted this inquiry in 2007, it is a long time ago, and since Leal is not in my family line, I guess I was helping someone. I help people with their searches. Are you looking for descendents of your ancestors? I can help you there, I think, as my neighber is a Charo. I have research that for her. She is currently in Chicago, they have a home here in Pearsall and one in Chicago to escape our weather here. So, if you still want me to help you, could you please email me to my em address. I seldom answer my ancestry. com website. Have to tried to buy buy your father's birthday certificate? you can call the county clerk house in the county where he was born. It is LaSalle Co. if he was born in Cotulla.

Maria

Re: Searching for the Leal family

mcharro5612 — 2012-07-04 03:30:45Z

iam mary charo ..my father was francisco charo and his family lived in cotulla texas. their many charo family in cotulla. i have two rr because my dad was in military and they put two rr. its a mess ,but we are charo as rest of family are. thay get after us change it back. anyway i was told the courthouse burn down too . i could not find my dad birth certificate but he was born there. i also research family and have ran into the victor charo. i with another person of my family i have barely email are decented from a francisco charo late 1700s there more can u email me and hope you see this

Re: Goslin/Shilling/Kay

brendalesinski — 2012-06-29 13:27:42Z

I am not sure, but we're going to see what they want us to do at the appointment, but having the information in hand is what I want to go in with, you know?

Re: Goslin/Shilling/Kay

HL2604 — 2012-06-29 02:46:56Z

Wouldn't DNA-testing be more effective when performed on direct male descendants? For example: William Marian>Julius Henry>Samuel Louis>Ronald Scott Kay?

Re: Goslin/Shilling/Kay

brendalesinski — 2012-06-29 00:53:38Z

My grandparents were a product of situation. My grandmother's mother died young and my grandfather's mother took her in, and well, they ended up married later on. The main reason for my research is I'm having genetic testing done on my son, so tracing the heritage back and any traces of genetic abnormalities if I can find them is important.... :)

Re: Goslin/Shilling/Kay

HL2604 — 2012-06-28 23:14:05Z

I'm feeling you! My father moved five miles from his ancestral home so that his children would not be attracted to cousins. Doesn't seem very far but we never had automobiles for any length of time. That worked for my family but those who stayed in the ancestral county had few choices for mates. The Native Americans recognized the need for "new blood" and captured females and young children to assimilate into the tribe. Some members of tribes even moved far away and started their own branches. Over time, they lost contact with their brethen and even made war on each other. The Comanches are a classical example. They sprang from the Shoshones who derived from the Utes. The Comanches made war on the Utes, Demiutes, Shoshones, Apaches, and anyone else who stood in their way.

Re: Goslin/Shilling/Kay

brendalesinski — 2012-06-28 22:43:23Z

I grew up down there, actually, our family stayed in the area of Atascosa/Medina county all their lives. Most my family is still in the area.

Yeah, well, things get interesting when the Shillings come into play. The Kays married into the Shillings, and the Goslins married into the shillings and my grandmother (Kay) married my grandfather (Goslin), which they were first cousins.

Hrm, solving these old family mysteries is fun and interesting that's for sure! Thanks!

Re: Goslin/Shilling/Kay

HL2604 — 2012-06-28 22:28:12Z

You may also be helped by a county map of Texas? Atascosa is south of Bexar (San Antonio) County. William's father was a boarder in the home of Theodore T. Knight age 40 of New York, but residing 1880 TX-Bexar-Not Stated-021-Image 12. His data is consistent with birth in Mississippi, father in Pennsylvania, and mom in Mississippi. The 1880 location of Margarite "Maggie" E. Shilling's future husband is a mystery. She's found with parents/siblings 1900 Atascosa-Precinct 2-District 4-Image 13. http://texas.hometownlocator.com/maps/statecountymap.cfm

Re: Goslin/Shilling/Kay

brendalesinski — 2012-06-28 22:12:16Z

That would be why I'm running into so many problems, there are a lot of William Kays and they seem to be circling back, a lot of the trees have my grandmother's brother listed as her father (dates are wrong), but I'll see if I can get that record for myself. Thank you, at least I have a state to go to, Mississippi rather than OK...

Re: Goslin/Shilling/Kay

HL2604 — 2012-06-28 21:41:18Z

Your grandmother's father was William Marian Kay born 17 Oct 1875 in Texas. His father was also William born Feb 1838 in Mississippi. They're on 1900 Atascosa-Precinct 2-District 4-Image 13.

Re: Goslin/Shilling/Kay

brendalesinski — 2012-06-28 20:31:44Z

Well, we think white, but family story was he was Cherokee, but no idea if it was true.

I don't have birth dates for him, and I'm still finding the dates for everyone else. Other than my mom and grandparents, I don't have other dates. I'm afraid we are looking at a dead end. But I will look into those sources. Will post more information here as I have it.

Re: Goslin/Shilling/Kay

thomasker2 — 2012-06-28 20:22:13Z

You have not answered my questions.

If he lived in IT [Indian Terr] he was not counted.
General Information – 1880 census
Colorado was the only state admitted to the Union between 1870 and 1880, bringing the total to 38 states. Eight territories were enumerated: Arizona, Dakota, Idaho, Montana, New Mexico, Utah, Washington and Wyoming territories. Unorganized Alaska was enumerated, but the "Indian Territory" was not enumerated for non-Indians. Unlike any previous censuses, after microfilming, the original 1880 census schedules for several states were transferred from the National Archives to various state archives, state libraries, or universities libraries. Only the original 1880 schedules for Pennsylvania remain at the National Archives. Several originals were later transferred to the National Society Daughters of the American Revolution in Washington, D.C.

Re: Goslin/Shilling/Kay

brendalesinski — 2012-06-28 20:05:10Z

Problem is no one has info past my grand mother's father that I can find so far...

Re: Goslin/Shilling/Kay

brendalesinski — 2012-06-28 20:04:09Z

I've done a lot of research and the problem is I cannot find anything past my Grandma's father. Even on here there is nothing (I don't have a subscription but have a friend who did some research that does). There are family stories that he was from OK, but other than the 1910 census I found on another site, I can't find anything.