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Re: Shirk

Posted: 1410039642000
Classification: Query
There is a 20 yr. gap in the census records [1880 - 1900] as the 1890 census was burned in the 1920's. Add 20 yrs to everyone's 1880 age for the 1900 census.

I’m not related to any member of this family.

1940 is the last available census at this time.

Facts you should know about the early census records –

All census records [1790 – 1840] prior to the 1850 census ONLY listed the head of household; whether male or female.

NO specific age was stated for any family member
NO place of birth was stated – city, state, or country
NO city, town, or village is stated – only the county; however some census takers listed the township
NO street address was stated
NO marital status was stated – single, married, widowed, or divorced
NO family relationship was stated – brother, sister, cousin, son, daughter, wife, inlaw, etc…
NO occupation was stated
NO parental birthplaces are stated
NO race was stated [but assume “white”]

1850, 1860 & 1870 census records do not show family relationships, marital status or parental birthplaces.

Step children are not enumerated as “step” children
Adopted children are not enumerated as “adopted”
Grand children are not enumerated as “grand children”
Orphaned children were not enumerated as "orphan"
Immigration date is not recorded

1850 is the 1st census that shows all family members with their birthplaces

1880 is the 1st census that shows parental birthplaces and family relationships +++

You wrote - "1900 census confirms he was not in the home." WHERE was he - state, county.

You also wrote -
"Jon Henry Shirk b:1896 d:1870"
Rather hard to die 26 yrs BEFORE being born......................

1900 -
Name: Lizzie Shirk
Age: 36
Birth Date: Nov 1863
Birthplace: Tennessee
Home in 1900: Civil District 9, Loudon, Tennessee
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Marriage Year: 1887
Years Married: 13
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother: number of living children: 3
Mother: How many children: 5

Lizzie Shirk 36, 11/63 TN - married 13 yr.
C Bessie Shirk 6, 11/93 TN
H John Shirk 4, 11/96TN
Ruley Shirk 2, 10/97 TN

1910 -
Name: Jno Shirk
Age in 1910: 15
Birth Year: abt 1895
Birthplace: Tennessee
Home in 1910: Civil District 2, Roane, Tennessee
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Nephew
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother's Birthplace:Tennessee

Robert M Wallenius 70, TN [AKA = Williams]
Fannie Williams 57, TN
Chas L Williams 31, TN
S P Williams 21, TN
Annie J Williams 18, TN
Jno Shirk 15, TN - nephew [18

U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: John Shirk
County: Roane
State: Tennessee
Birthplace: Tennessee, United States of America
Race: Caucasian (White)
Note -
He does not know his DOB
He cannot write his name

1920 - John Shirk is not listed. May be in the military

1930 -
Name: John Shirk
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1900
Birthplace: Tennessee
Race: White
Home in 1930: District 2, Loudon, Tennessee
Marital Status: Widowed
Relation to Head of House: Brother
Father's Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother's Birthplace: Tennessee
Occupation: farm worker
Military service: YES, WWI
Age at first marriage: 23
Parents' birthplace: TN/TN

Rule S Shirk 26, TN - Age at first marriage: 23, Parents' birthplace: TN/TN
Martha K Shirk 28, TN - Age at first marriage: 25, Parents' birthplace: TN/TN
Carrie L Shirk 2, TN
John Shirk 30, TN - widowed brother, WWI Veteran

1940 - John is not listed.

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