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Re: ABELs, SIPLEs, FORRYs, CAMPBELLs, etal

prfisher23 — 2013-05-19 21:55:45Z

Hoping to help, been researching the fisher family and Fishers are married to Abel's. So hope info i have helps you.
Henry B. Fisher b:3/21/1827 d:1903(Fairveiw Cem. Wrightsville Pa.), married Eliza J. Kane(Fairview Cem.) b:1833 d:8/18/1877.(Eliza parents:John and Elizabeth Kane) Had 8 kids, Sheldon K., Mahala I., Mary E., Ida J., Elma F., Alice M., Miama E., and Oscela.
Mahala Iowa Fisher b:1/1/1856 d:2/9/1930(Fairview Cem), married Thomas Abel(Fairview Cem.)b:1858 d:5/29/1931(Samuels parents: Samuel D. Abel and Elizabeth Rupp). Mahala was Samuel's 2nd wife, 1st wife: Mary, had one child Edgar S. Abel. Mahala had 16 children:As follows....
1.)Sheldon Kane Abel b:1873 d:12/16/1956(fairview Cem.)Married Catherine L. Wilhelm,5 children:Emily B.,Abraham.,Harry C.,Arthur J., and Sheldon K. Married Stella M. Brown,3 children Betsy R.,Blanton C.,and William E.
2.)John Abel b:8/19/1875 d:8/19/1875
3.)Pauline Hoke Abel b:1876 d:6/29/1941(fairview Cem)Married:Abraham L. Green.
4.)Alice Elenore Abel b: 1879 d:9/15/1961(fairview Cem)Married:George Daniel Kinard, had 1 child: Leroy "roy" Herman
5.)Samuel E. Abel b:2/10/1881 d:12/25/1915(fairview Cem.) Married Eva Wallick had 3 children: Pauline, Arabella I., and Gladys E.
6.)Thomas Abel Jr. b:3/1/1883 d:1957(Fairview Cem.)Married Luella M Madden
7.)Howard Abel b:12/17/1884 d:5/26/1949(fairview Cem.)Married Carrie E. Young, had 11 children Abraham L.,Cynthia I., Evelyn M., Helen E., Sophia R., Nina I., Carl H., Marguerite M., Charles R., Ethel May. and Reba j.
8.)Henry Abel b:1886 d:1959(Fairview Cem.) 1st Marriage Helen I. Siple b:1890 d:1939(fairview cem.) had to children: Glenn, Lester. 2nd Marriage to Dora E. Campbell b:9/1/1887 d:3/1/1979

Re: ABELs, SIPLEs, FORRYs, CAMPBELLs, etal

prfisher23 — 2013-05-19 21:55:29Z

York Co. PA GIBSONS: Jacob 1740, his father Andrew 1708?-1803

jgibsonjgibson — 2013-05-19 21:01:51Z

Would very much appreciate hearing from anyone having information on these men and their children. A couple of public trees have my "brick wall" ancestor (James 1776-1845) listed as a son of Jacob. They say Jacob's wife was Anna Whiteford.

Did this info. come from other public trees, or was it perhaps handed down through the family? I'd love to know. (No, the current tree owners don't know.) Thanks!

Julie

Re: Leininger Family

TKPennington — 2013-05-19 03:14:57Z

Hi, I believe i have some information on this particular family! My grandmother was a Leininger from Fulton County, OH where there are many Leiningers, and has a county history book in which there is a story about a girl named Barbara Leininger who was kidnapped by Indians. I am not living near my grandparents at this time, but if you are still looking for information, please email me at tarellekristine@yahoo.com and I will see if I can get the information to you!

Re: Myers of Pa.

cindyhoward0101 — 2013-05-18 23:07:19Z

Hello,
I have information on Lamanda Myers, my 2nd great grandmother. I am a descendent of Franklin E. Snyder, first born son of Henry Snyder. I'll be glad to share what I have. I am trying to find Lamanda's mother's family (Nancy Stambaugh).

Re: DAWSON/BURKE

SARGESGIRL1 — 2013-05-15 23:58:04Z

Harry, Please contact me by email...sargesgirl1@comcast.net
Haven't had much luck w/ the research would like to exchange what we have. I can give you info on last reunion & I'll check to see if another is being planned. This is the Copenheaver reunion, but family history is discussed.
Thanks for your reply,
Ronda Heilman Copenheaver
p.s. curious to hear what area you live in now

Re: GROSCOST

porchcat58 — 2013-05-15 09:01:48Z

My mother was Nora groscost York pa.I have lots of info about lots of groscosts.

Re: GROSCOST

porchcat58 — 2013-05-15 08:58:04Z

My mother was Nora groscost York pa.I have lots of info about lots of groscosts.

Re: DAWSON/BURKE

hdd102h — 2013-05-14 11:58:20Z

Hello Rhonda,

I am Harry Dawson. Harry James Dawson was my great grandfather. I have been researching our family tree for the last 20 years and have always been puzzled by this "dead end", specially since the written history left to me indicates that his father was George, who was apparently killed in the civil war before he was born. I would appreciate hearing if you ever were able to resolve his heritage and about any future family reunions.

All the Best,

Harry

Re: Blair Family

Phatv92 — 2013-05-13 04:10:11Z

My brother Rawley Hugh Blair was named after our great grandfathers brother Rawley Pritchett Blair

Re: Sprenkel-Ehrhard family

yellow3200 — 2013-05-12 23:14:48Z

Hello. My Grandmother, Mary Edna Sprinkle , descends from Wilhelm Sprenckel and Anna Catharina Ehrhard. I have most of the basic genealogy about the family but I do not have any of the history. For example, I don't know why they came to the states or what their life was life. Can you recommend a place to go to find out more?
Thank you-
Jennifer Moncada

Re: MILLER, WARNER, HUBER

edmorrill786 — 2013-05-12 14:02:53Z

The tombstone for Elizabeth Warner says she died Nov 13, 1895 age 80 years, 3 months and 19 days. This puts her birth around the 24th or 25th of July 1815. One of the family trees on Ancestry has her parents as John Miller 1786-1865 and Elizabeth Kunkel 1791-1882. They are of Shrewsbury Township. I have not checked further into the children of John and Elizabeth. I thought I'd post thi info to your query as another approcah to who Elizabeth Millers parents are.

Re: Early German Settlers of York County, Pennsylvania

jmyoung365 — 2013-05-10 05:04:37Z

Johan Leonhardt NUTZ/NOTZ is listed on page 59 as an early settler in Codorus Township. He immigrated to Philadelphia in 1738 on the Two Sisters (which incidentally also brought some of my ancestors to America in the same year). He was naturalized on Sept. 24, 1746. His estate was administered in Lancaster Co. in 1758. He does not appear to have lived in York County, just owned land there. He received a warrant for 100 acres in North Codorus Twp. on Feb. 15, 1749, that was surveyed as 343 acres on Nov. 25, 1775, and 337 acres on Mar. 8/9, 1750. He married Maria Eva BARTH on Nov. 16, 1723, and Anna Catharina, dau. of Henrich KEYDEL, on Oct. 26, 1734. He had the following children at Zuzenhausen, Germany: (reference: 18th Century Emigrants from German Speaking Lands to North America/The Northern Kraichgau (1983 Annette K. Burgert).

Johan Georg born Jan. 28, 1726 and died before 1735.
Anna Dorothea born Apr. 22, 1733 (at Durlachishen) married Christian GUNTHER in 1752 and died of consumption in Lebanon Co., Pa on Aug. 31, 1799. (Salem Lutheran Church records) He died in 1785. She was a communicant at the First Reformed Congregation at Lancaster in 1750.
Johan Georg born Dec. 18, 1735 and died before 1738.
Elisabeth born Feb. 9, 1753 bapt. at the First Reformed Congregation in Lancaster on Feb. 18, 1753 and spon. by Christian VOGT and wife.

Joan

Early German Settlers of York County, Pennsylvania

jwaltersrstroup — 2013-05-10 04:49:25Z

Anyone have a copy of the book and willing to do a quick lookup? I am looking for information on what I believe to be page 59 regarding the Notz/Nutz family. It may be information I already have, but I wanted to be sure. Many thanks in advance!

Re: MILLER, WARNER, HUBER

Imyvonnew — 2013-05-09 22:48:42Z

Noah Warner is my great grandfather. I have been doing some research and even visited Fissels Cemetery last July. If you are interested in exchanging information, I am at
spwarner73@yahoo.com

Re: The History And Families of the Black Rock Church of the Brethren (1738-1988) by Elmer Q Gleim

josephetter29 — 2013-05-08 00:06:50Z

I sent the copy of the Will to your e-mail & the price of the book.

Joe

Re: The History And Families of the Black Rock Church of the Brethren (1738-1988) by Elmer Q Gleim

josephetter29 — 2013-05-07 23:45:09Z

did not know this. I am new to this, so thank you.

Joe

Re: The History And Families of the Black Rock Church of the Brethren (1738-1988) by Elmer Q Gleim

jmyoung365 — 2013-05-07 23:35:37Z

As an FYI...board posting guidelines don't permit the posting of prices or commercial content on the boards...so if anyone does know the price of the book they would have to email you privately.

Thanks!

Joan, admin
York County board

Re: The History And Families of the Black Rock Church of the Brethren (1738-1988) by Elmer Q Gleim

e_deveney — 2013-05-07 23:33:36Z

I do not have any information on the book,but do you have the children of Samuel and Magdalina. Magdalina's father was Miichael Danner and her mother was Susanna.

Samuel and Magdalina are burried in the Bair' meeting house Cmt. near Hanover, PA

My data base is the Brillheart's

Earl

Re: The History And Families of the Black Rock Church of the Brethren (1738-1988) by Elmer Q Gleim

Tonie933 — 2013-05-07 23:12:35Z

Do you know the cost of the book? I would be greatly interested in it if not too costly. Also am curious with your Etter - has it ever been shown as Ertter? I have a Josephine Raum who married a John Ertter and they are the parents of my great uncle Clem's wife Mary Virginia (think I have this all in correct order off the top of my head). I would be interested in this will, yes, just in case there is a connection. My e-mail is waughtel33@gmail.com
Thank you so much.
Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington)

Re: The History And Families of the Black Rock Church of the Brethren (1738-1988) by Elmer Q Gleim

josephetter29 — 2013-05-07 22:56:24Z

I have not yet run across these names, I have been looking at Samuel Brillhart because of his link to my family. Samuel would have been my 3x great grandfather’s brother in law. I believe that my 3x great grandfather (Jacob Etter) lived near Samuel in Pennsylvania before moving to Virginia. I am trying to track down the family line.
Joe Etter

Re: The History And Families of the Black Rock Church of the Brethren (1738-1988) by Elmer Q Gleim

josephetter29 — 2013-05-07 22:52:53Z

I just place an order for the book & have no idea if they have more, but this is where I found it...

http://www.blackrockchurch.org/contact.html
Black Rock Church of the Brethren
Administrative Assistant:
Lori Fuhrman
Black Rock Church of the Brethren
3864 Glenville Road
Glenville, PA 17329
Phone: (717) 637-6170
Email: blackrockcob@comcast.net

Good Luck :)

Re: The History And Families of the Black Rock Church of the Brethren (1738-1988) by Elmer Q Gleim

josephetter29 — 2013-05-07 22:49:02Z

I have a copy of Samuel Brillhart's will and he makes mention of a Juliana that he raised and intermarried with Jacob Kraft. I cannot say with all certainty that this is his daughter, but possible. Secondly through a form for Sons of the American Revolution it appears that he had a son Samuel Brillhart III.

I have not done a lot with the Brillhart family, but am looking into them because of the Danner link and that my Jacob Etter went from Virginia to Pennsylvania to address his wife's inheritance from the Brillhart will. Jacob & Elizabeth are from the area, and this is as far back as I have my family line so I am trying to find them in Pennsylvania and his parents/family.

If you are interested in copies of the Will send me your e-mail and I will send them. Mine is josephetter@wvi.com
Joe Etter

Re: The History And Families of the Black Rock Church of the Brethren (1738-1988) by Elmer Q Gleim

Tonie933 — 2013-05-07 15:48:39Z

I have a Benjamin Brillhart married to a Latshaw lady which descends from my Waughtel lineage.

Re: The History And Families of the Black Rock Church of the Brethren (1738-1988) by Elmer Q Gleim

v_stern — 2013-05-07 11:49:44Z

I am still looking to buy a copy of this book. If anyone knows where I can find one, please let me know.

Vanessa

Re: The History And Families of the Black Rock Church of the Brethren (1738-1988) by Elmer Q Gleim

josephetter29 — 2013-05-07 03:09:39Z

I am also researching this church looking for my Etter family.. I have some information regarding Samuel Brillhart, he was married to Magdalena. Magdalena was sister to my 3X Great Grandmother Elizabeth Danner Etter...

Re: Fletcher/Fletzer/Floetzer/Floesser of York County

kmac765 — 2013-04-30 14:13:25Z

Yes thats correct i found my family tree at the college i go to someone did it. i had back to the late 1700's already but other tree put me back to 1675

Re: Fletcher/Fletzer/Floetzer/Floesser of York County

dfletcher — 2013-04-30 11:46:26Z

Thank you for this. Actually, all of the included info is sourced to my original work from some years back--such is the internet echo chamber. My original research in the mid-90s led me to York, PA, and court records there. Subsequently I identified the Catholic parish near Heidelberg from which the family originated prior to their immigration to PA in 1732. The church is in Heiligkreuzsteinach, a few miles NE of Heidelberg in the Odenwald. I visited the area in 2002, visited the church and compared my microfilm copies of the register to the original one in the parish house. The surviving portions of the original Floesser house are in a nearby village, though that only includes the door and the doorframe; the balance of the structure was later rebuilt. Many very distant cousins remain in the area there, and retain the original German spelling of the surname.

Some years ago I collaborated with cousin Michael Barkman, deceased, of Bedford Co., PA, on a brochure giving the history of the family and the Fletcher Cemetery in Monroe Twp., Bedford Co. The text I created for that (later reproduced by cousin Tom Clabaugh for a Bedford PA ancestral research website) included a few early errors on my part, including my misreading of "Flotzer" as the German surname. The German double-S figure resembles a "tz" written cursively, which confused me initially. The "o" is with an umlaut, which alters the sound a bit to something like "Floeh-zuh." The name literally means "floater," or raftsman. Largely from that posting, much copy/pasting without source credit resulted...amusing as it served to reproduce the errors intact, now quoted as fact without correction. Oh well.

A few corrections to your data: Johann Jacob Floesser Sr was born in 1704 in H'steinach, and died in Manchester Twp., York Co., PA....not Germany. Anna Margarethe Reichardt died in Lancaster Co., PA. Floesser married again, to Anna Elizabethe ___(unknown), who survived him. Johann Jaoob Jr. is thought to be the last child of Anna Margarethe, and it may be that she died from childbirth complications. There are no known firm birth years for either Philip or Eva, as the parish register for H'Steinach only begins in 1699. Most likely the years you've mentioned were my own guestimates.

The part of Germany from which the family came looks very much like western MD and southern PA....rolling hills with fertile valleys, ridges topped by forest. Also, many apple orchards. Hard cider, or apfelwein, is still highly prized.

I'm guessing from the Wiki-tree you've linked that you descend from John Fletcher, d. 1860?

Re: Samuel Harman 1824-1864 PA

edmorrill786 — 2013-04-30 00:12:02Z

A Theory on who Samuel Harman is.
As you suggested I looked in York County. I found no Harmans in the late 1840s in Fawn Township. Since the 3 children of Samuel in the 1850 census were listed as being born in Pennsylvania I decided to look elsewhere in York. Then I looked at the 1840 census for York County and found 9 townships with Harmans. Then I looked to see where the Kuntz(Koons,etc) were in 1840. One township that had both surnames was Windsor. I looked in the Windsor tax records and there was Samuel in 1845 along with Peter and George. Also there was Ludwig Kuntz. A few years later John Harman shows up in the taxes.
I found that Peter and his wife Frederica were from Germany. I thought that Ludwig Kuntz would be also since Ludwig often is Anglicized to Lewis. What could be more natural than the children of 2 families from Germany to marry. Peter Herrman ( Herman, Harman) who died 7 July 1852 has a York County will U-15 which lists his children. There are John, Mariah, Elizabeth who marred Philip Shade, Magdalena married Jacob Smeltzer (in Chanceford in 1850), Susanna married Jacob Jones, Frederick, Samuel, William Otterbein, and Rose Ann Margareta.
Peter is called Rev. He also in his will asks that his wife be left some of the medicines he has to continue his practice. Another interesting item from the will was that Mariah was to get one dollar and that was all.
In the 1900 census Samuel’s son Amos says he was born January 1846. Amos died 11/10/1920 and is buried in Center Presbyterian Cemetery. He was age 75-9-24. Samuel’s son Washington is George Washington Harman born 1847 died 1918 buried in Centre Presbyterian Cemetery in Fawn Township. This area of York County is very close to the Maryland line.
Peter married Frederica Bramer Miller in 1837 in Salem Co. NJ making Samuel's mother Peter's first wife Anna Barbara Eichart born in Switzerland,
how do you know that Samuel born 1824 who is in the 1850 census is the Samuel who died in 1864 in Chester Co.or for that matter ever lived in York County?

Re: Fletcher/Fletzer/Floetzer/Floesser of York County

kmac765 — 2013-04-29 22:23:42Z

Johann Joacobs Fletcher Sr was born 1704 and died 1758 in Germany. He married Anna M. Reichardt she was born 1710 and died 1743. Johann Philip Fletcher born in 1675 no death date found. He married Susanna Eva she was born 1680 and died 1731.

The link below explains it a little better i have more information if you are interested

http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Floesser-Family-Tree-12

Re: Fletcher/Fletzer/Floetzer/Floesser of York County

kmac765 — 2013-04-29 22:17:45Z

Re: Fletcher/Fletzer/Floetzer/Floesser of York County

kmac765 — 2013-04-29 22:16:27Z

Re: Fletcher/Fletzer/Floetzer/Floesser of York County

kmac765 — 2013-04-29 22:13:41Z

Re: Collins of York Co 1750-1820

edmorrill786 — 2013-04-28 14:16:33Z

Judy, I am not a Collins researcher but if you can add some dates for John, Aaron and David and where they might be in York that would help. As you might have guessed there are several John Collins in that time frame. Tell us something you know and ask us to go back from there.

Re: Carl and Catherine Abel Wrightsville, York, Pennsylvania, United States of America

edmorrill786 — 2013-04-28 14:12:28Z

The Ancestry of Carl H Abel is on line on Ancestry.com in the family tree section back for 300 years, Ididn't do it but if yu have any questions let me know and I'll see what I can find.

Re: J.R. Nonemaker from Dick Deise

ddeise — 2013-04-27 19:56:19Z

Hi, just browsing the various Message boards and saw this and do not recall ever responding. Your posting indicates no reply. BUT, I can be reached at ddeise@verizon.net

There was no e-mail above 9 years ago.

Regards to you, too.
Dick Deise

Re: BUPP

HALUNTZ — 2013-04-24 23:20:45Z

I am related to Joseph Bupp born in 1838 in Perry County Pa and died there also...his father was John Bupp who was born in 1801 in pa also. you can contact me at harryluntz@gmail.com.

Thanks

Re: EARLY York Co. residents

lin_paulson — 2013-04-24 20:21:36Z

Came across this when I decided to name a character in a story with my g-greatgrandmother's maiden name Marrs. I have Sarah Elizabeth Marrs m.to Martin G. Elkins whose son James Wesley Elkins would be my g-grandfather. My grandmother is Emma Rose Elkins Copley. If we are related, may I have the data you've collected re William Erskine, et al? My Marrs branch went from Tazewell to Missouri to Oregon.

Re: Southern York County Families

jm1399 — 2013-04-23 03:40:15Z

Have you found any info on the Natives you were asking about? Local farmers tell me there were several families of Natives that lived around the Hershaull Park area of East Hopewell Twp. While I have yet to find anyone who remembers exactly what tribe they were from, it's possible that they were Shawnee, Seneca, Susquehannock, Conoy or Nanticoke. In all of my research I've found predominantly Shawnee in our area in 18th century forward, though.

I'm familiar with Strayer descendants living here now and one of them married into the Evans family who come from Saponi Natives. The Rineholts and Lefflers in my family come from those Native families I mentioned above in East Hopewell, late 1800s early 1900s. They were farmers. If you want to know more about various Pennsylvania Natives feel free to message me.

Re: John ROBB

CuteChrissy1994 — 2013-04-21 21:35:22Z

I am the daughter of Howard Kenneth Robb and is searching for his brother John William Robb who is my Uncle Johnny. the parents of Howard and John are Jack Robb and the late June Brown Robb who also had a daughter named Carol!!!!

Re:Francis Himes Will

cynthia_nottingham — 2013-04-19 02:11:21Z

You might have better luck contacting the York County Archives: http://yorkcountyarchives.org/search.asp.

I saw records listed there for a Frances Himes - looks like he owned a tavern in HEIDELBERG township in the late 1780's?

I'm not related, I just peeked at the archives search to see if they had anything :)

Re: HIMES and KAUFMAN

DottiePorterHimes — 2013-04-18 21:36:25Z

I have Johann Christian Himes b. 1731 d 1816
with son John Himes b. 1770 m Elizabeth Kaufman.
Please write to me at himesd12@gmail.com
Dottie and John Himes April 2013

Re: Francis Himes Will

DottiePorterHimes — 2013-04-18 21:33:26Z

my prior post was from djhimes@ipa.net
my 2013 address is himesd12@gmail.com
I would love to have a copy of Francis Heim/Himes Will
Do you also know the death date for his father Wilhelm Heim/Himes. thanks in advance. Dottie and John Himes

Re:Christian HIMES and KAUFMAN

DottiePorterHimes — 2013-04-18 21:28:23Z

First I have Christian Himes name as Johann Christian Himes I have that he was born 1731, source Dickinson College, Carlisle PA from one of his descendants Charles Heim/Himes a Science Professor. Do you know the death date of his father Wilhelm Heim b. 1710 born in Mutterstadt, Germany.
My husband is related to these men and I have searched for over 20 years, and would be glad to share what I found. Some one had that Wilhelm Heim died at age 106 which seems wrong ? so I am still looking for the date of this death. Write to me himesd12@gmail.com thanks Dottie & John Himes

Re:Francis Himes Will

DottiePorterHimes — 2013-04-18 21:19:17Z

Francis Himes (Heim) is my husbands ancestor.
do you have a copy of his Will? If so could you please send a copy to me at himesd12@gmail.com I thank you in advance
Dottie and John Himes
Corpus Christi, TX
originally from Dayton, Oh where Francis Heim son John Heim /Himes settled years ago. Thanks again

Re: Vanzant

edmorrill786 — 2013-04-12 00:37:26Z

In 1780 there were at least 15 Vansant males ove 21 in Bucks County, PA

Vanzant

gishpar — 2013-04-11 00:11:48Z

I found Brandas/Barnabas and Peter Vanzant on the 1784/85/93
Straban Township Census. I cannot find where they came from. Barnabas went to Surry County NC by 1800. I don't know what happened to Peter. Anyone have any ideas where I could look next? Thank you

Re: Shellenbergers, Strickler .

ROOTSnFRUITS — 2013-04-10 04:28:03Z

Hello, have you personally proven that Ulrich was the husband of these two Stricklers?
Thank you.

Re: FACKLER

suzanhochskinkle — 2013-04-09 19:36:28Z

im from henry hoch do you have any info on henry sr, I have found the middle name may have been B or brown.

Re: Hendrix

zondrakay — 2013-04-09 05:54:20Z

Hi e-mail me at zondrakay@cox.net
Kay