"Edward John married Bertha P. (3/1880 or 1882), and their children were: Sarah V. Kay 12/1893 or 1896, George C.D. 6/1897, and James H. 5/1898 or 1899."

Ed and Bertha had 18 children. My mother in law was one of them. If you would like the info I have it.
BTW.thats where the re: alice Keiper came from. Her name was Elizabeth Alice and we called her Aunt Bess.