Lancaster - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Peter REHLICH's adopted daughters, Mary and Augusta

najochri1 — 2013-05-20 02:28:49Z

On another message board, someone said Peter lived in Lancaster County, PA and he is on the 1930 census there.

Re: Peter REHLICH's adopted daughters, Mary and Augusta

jmyoung365 — 2013-05-19 21:07:06Z

What is the specific connection to Lancaster County, PA? You mention Pennsylvania but not this county.

Thanks!

Joan, admin
Lancaster County, PA, message board

Re: Peter REHLICH's adopted daughters, Mary and Augusta

najochri1 — 2013-05-19 19:40:34Z

The people who dropped them off moved to Pennsylvania. The girls stayed in Michigan with the Rehlichs.

Peter REHLICH's adopted daughters, Mary and Augusta

najochri1 — 2013-05-19 19:25:01Z

I am trying to find Mary and Augusta's real surnames. Does anyone have a record of who they were? The girls were dropped off at Peter and Wilhelmina's home in southern Michigan and moved on to Pennsylvania. Now I learn that Peter moved to Pennsylvania.

A daughter of Mary is still alive. Mary is on the 1900 census living in the Rehlich household, noted adopted. (Augusta was there too).

Thanks! Any info would help.

Re: Wildcat Cemetery in Lancaster County

BrehmFisher — 2013-05-16 20:34:39Z

I am also an Engel decendent. If anyone has pictures I would love to see them! Next visit home I would love to find Wildcat cemetery. Is is hard to find? And are the property owners ok with people looking fo it? :)

Re: HUBLEY Surname

gordonhubley40 — 2013-05-16 00:58:36Z

My great, great, great, great, great grandfather (I am not sure of the number of "greats") was a Bernard Hubley who served on General George Washington's staff and who wrote two of what was to be three volumes on the history of the American Revolution (not completed because of Bernard's death.

He was encouraged by General Washington to undertake this work. As a result General Washington was listed along with Bernard in the authorship of this work.

I don't whether this is the same Bernard Hubley referenced earlier.

Re: Wright Family of Columbia,Pa.

wright_christop_603 — 2013-05-11 00:00:24Z

The original John Wright family bible is located at the Columbia Historical Society (2nd street, Columbia Pa). It has updates written in it up to the 1900s. I am also a direct descendent of the Wright family, I will be going to the historical society soon to do more research, if you tell me what you are looking for specifically, I can check it out for you. My personal e-mail is cforthemasses@comcast.net ~Chris Wright

Re: Woodward Hill Cemetery plot map

gabannon_1 — 2013-05-02 01:19:10Z

Have you tried locating your family people on the website Find a Grave? I have family buried there also and located them there which gave plot and section number. Also, when we went to search there we first visited the Greenwood Cem office on S. Queen St at Highland St, 719 is the number, in Lancaster. The telephone number i Have for them is 717-392-1224, hours 8-4 Mon -Fri. They were very helpful. Also the LCHS has a list of lot owners for the Woodward Hill Cem. I hope this helps. It's been a few years since I gotten this information though.

Find A Grave you can go to the Cemetery and select all the people buried there by certain name.

Good Luck.

Re: Woodward Hill Cemetery plot map

gaflynn24 — 2013-05-02 00:31:04Z

We just visited Lancaster and inquired of the historical society and other places and no one has any listing of the people buried there. It is a huge cemetery and I have no idea what section or plot number they are buried in. So if anyone has any info on this I would appreciate any help.

Re: Woodward Hill Cemetery plot map

gabannon_1 — 2013-04-27 01:43:06Z

Yes, I do still have the plot map for Woodward Hill Cem. Do you know the Section and/or lot #s for your Fordneys?

Re: Wildcat Cemetery in Lancaster County

jengle39 — 2013-04-26 12:53:37Z

Please e-mail me at johnengle@mac.com

I would be happy to share with you.

John Engle, M.D.
Waterville, Maine

Re: Wildcat Cemetery in Lancaster County

BarndanceGal — 2013-04-26 10:44:30Z

Wow! Pls send ur email address to dickndee@trvnet.net and I'll get my family history of Lancaster County out, and we will visit back & forth! Off to work! Dee

Re: Wildcat Cemetery in Lancaster County

caemen121 — 2013-04-26 03:13:45Z

Hello,

I believe I am living across the creek from where your relatives are buried. Please contact me as I think we may be in the house where they lived and I would love to hear what you know about the Engles. I also think it would be wonderful if you could come visit the graves.

Blessings,
Christel

Re: Woodward Hill Cemetery plot map

gaflynn24 — 2013-04-25 15:18:05Z

Do you still have a plot map of woodward hill cemetary, I am looking for some Fordneys buried there.

Masonic Cemetery?

k79lawrence — 2013-04-23 16:33:40Z

Hello,
I was wondering if anyone out there might know if there is a Masonic Cemetery for the Masons Memorial Hospital in West Donegal Township, in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.
I am looking to see if a man by the name of John W. Mansfield and his wife Pauline B. (Robinson) Mansfied, might be buried there, or somewhere in Lancaster County.
I found John W. Mansfield and his wife Pauline B. Mansfield both listed as lodgers at the Masons Memorial Hospital in West Donegal Township, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. This listing was on the 1940 Federal Census, he was listed as 78 years old from Ohio, and she as 63 from Pennsylvania.
I am wondering if they both would have died at that hospital and if so I am trying to find where they are buried?
John W. Mansfield was born in 1862 in Ohio.
Any Help would be appreciated!

Thank you, Keith Lawrence

k79lawrence@gmail.com

High School Swim Teams

KATEOCONNOR — 2013-04-18 20:27:00Z

What high schools in Lancaster County had swim teams in the late-1950's, early-1960's.

Peterson, Johann Jacop

immisty038 — 2013-04-13 22:31:45Z

Looking for Johann Jacob Bidert PETERSON, who came to LANCASTER CO. AROUND 1737 from Basil SWITZERLAND, with his wife and 4 children. His wife was Sarah MOHLER/MOLHER, and
his daughter Sarah may have married there between 1740 & 1750 to Gerich HEINRICK KAR/KARR aka Henry CARR.
Jacob went by the name surname BEIDERT/BIDERT/BIEDERT at home and on the ship. When he got to VA in 1750, his name had been changed from Bidert to PETERS-PETERSON. How would this happened, where did they lived in LANCASTOR & was his daughter Sarah Bidert PETERSON married there?

Re: John Keller (1751 - 1855)

immisty038 — 2013-04-13 19:16:15Z

Making some corrections,
1st Elizabeth married Johannes KELLER, son of Johann
I've been told Zion was not called Trinity, but CHRIST LUTHERAN.
There was also a Marareta KARR who married a DORN.

Re: Fahnestock Surname

immisty038 — 2013-04-13 19:12:37Z

Great Book called MEMORIALS TO THE HUGUENAUTS had alot of info on the Mennonites as they were pretty much in the same
perdicament as the HUGUENAUTS were. Had long lists of names of HUGUENAUTS and other types of Protestants, including the German Bretheren or Baptist Bretheren.

Re: Elizabeth Grim(m), ca 1740-ca 1766

ltguidetti — 2013-04-05 18:31:19Z

Many Grim(m)s lived in Delaware County, PA. They also moved to Lancaster County from there. I would check there - and please note, back in the early 1700s, Delaware County was part of Chester County.

Re: Elizabeth Grim(m), ca 1740-ca 1766

mzfitz40 — 2013-04-05 06:33:27Z

York County was originally Lancaster County. There are a lot of Grim's in Southern York County. Not all marriages of that time period were made within 3 miles of thier home. Many times allied families moved but retained relationships and encouraged marriage of cousins so property remained in the family. Even in 1750 when people settled roads were cut and a mile is still a mile. Walking the current mile long bridge from York to Lancaster Co takes about 20-30 minutes. Ferries dotted the river banks and the river was the main highway for trade. So, traveling may have taken a little longer because of rougher terrain. But the opporunity to marry someone more that 3 miles away did indeed exsist. My early families for that same time period spread from Lancaster Co, York Co, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina and Kentucky. As territory opened up they pressed on. Sometimes with out permission of the natives.

Re: Elizabeth Grim(m), ca 1740-ca 1766

ArmentGen — 2013-04-03 19:09:15Z

I was out trying to find information about Martin Grimm (d. 1755) on Monday, I found his will and it mentions he has 3 children (2 boys, 1 girl). But doesn't name them. I also found his inventory and debts to be paid. I didn't find any orphans court records. Does that mean the children weren't minors?

Also, I'm still obviously stuck on who my Elizabeth Grimm's parents were. How far away do you think her parents lived for her to marry someone from Lancaster County? I'm finding Grimms in adjacent counties, but their Elizabeths married other people. If Martin's children weren't minors, then Elizabeth isn't his dauhther. She also doesn't seem to fit with the Peter Grimm & Anna Maria Wolf who lived in Lancaster. All their children were accounted for by their baptisms found at familysearch.org. If she were theirs, she was the first daughter/child born to them after their marriage in 1739, the next child was born in 1741. Plus they had a Maria Elizabeth in 1750. That would have given them 2 Elizabeths.

I guess my ultimate question is.....How far would she have travelled to marry someone who lived in Lancaster Borough, Lancaster County, PA in the late 1750's? Was it common to marry or be courted by someone so far away as an adjacent county or would she have had to have lived in or very near the city of Lancaster? Her husband, Martin Dorwart was 24 years old, her, barely 19 or 20. Would it have been customary for him to travel to Lebanon Twp or Berks County, Chester or even York County? Where would she have come from given she doesn't really fit with the Lancaster Grimms nor those in Berks and Lehigh Counties? And the only ones known in Lancaster were Martin & Peter? Any help appreciated. Racking my brain tryin to find even a possibility as to her parents. Leaning towards Peter & Anna Maria Wolf Grimm. There's a 2-3 year gap after their marriage unaccounted for in terms of children. Elizabeth coulda been the first, but no account of her birth can be found and they were living in Germany at the time. Out of all their children, her baptism would be the only one that can't be found. If she is their child.

Re: Achhammer Bavaria

charmaineblack — 2013-04-02 14:11:03Z

Thank you very much and I know some of the Schultz and now I know why my great grandmother Catherine said they were family. I knew When my great great grandma Irene died but never knew her maiden name and I know where they are buried (Habecker Mennonite Cemetary in Lancaster County, Pa. I didn't hear much about Sarah because it hurt my great grandma Catherine to talk about it. I know about my grandma Catherine's marriages...she was married to Carl Abel then to a man with the surname Hess. She died Catherine M. Hess. Catherine had 4 children Robert Abel, Gloria, Karen And John. Gloria is my grandmother and her daughter Catherine is my mother.

Re: Achhammer Bavaria

bowelcleaner — 2013-04-02 12:42:16Z

Irene ( Smith) Achhammer died May 1977.
Go to Find a Grave.com
I have here obit.
Sarah married 1931 to Charles M. Schultz and as of 1940 had 3 children.
She isn't listed on her mother's obit.
Catherine was married twice and I have her obit.
If you want more information contact me @
brockman@supernet.com

Howard Black and Edna Mae Martin

charmaineblack — 2013-04-02 03:46:45Z

I am in desperate need to find any information on my grandparents Howard Black and Edna Mae Martin. I know they lived in Columbia, Pa in between 1946 - 1975. Any information will be helpful.

Andrew Fry b. 1776, wife Lydia, Lancaster Co., PA

redheadkelly — 2013-04-01 22:25:35Z

According to Family Tree DNA, Andrew Fry b. 1776 married Lydia and had sons Samuel & Reuben.

http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/frey/pats.

According to the Pedigree, kit number 192955 is a descendant of Jacob M Fry b. 1839 who is the son of a Samuel Fry b. 1807 and his wife Catherine Meese.

It shows the other kit, number 192956, to be a descendant of Reuben Fry b. 1824.

Samuel b. 1807 & Reuben b. 1824 are both shown as sons of Andrew Fry b. 1776 & his wife Lydia.

But if you go to the y-Results page, kit number 192955 is in Haplogroup I and kit number 192956 is in Haplogroup J. This means that these two descendants are not related.
http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/frey/results

According to my calculations, you would have to go back about 120 generations to find where these two people share a common ancestor.
http://fryingpan.redheadkelly.net/MRCA-whole-Fry-project.htm...

If you look at the Lancaster records found online, there is a Samuel who was born in 1809 & married an Eliza.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M4HG-LH6

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=11...

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=11...

This Samuel has children with the same names as Reuben b. 1824. It seems that he is more likely the brother of Reuben.

I am not able to find Samuel b. 1807 on any census records. I do find his son Jacob b. 1839 starting on the 1870 census, but no sign of Samuel.

Jacob, his wife, and his mother Catherine Meese are all buried in Millport Mennonite Cemetery along with Reuben, the other Samuel & their families. This makes it confusing.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gsr&GSiman...

There is a burial listing for Samuel b. 1809 & his wife Eliza. There is also a burial listing for Catherine Meese Fry, wife of Samuel b. 1807, but no burial listing for Samuel b. 1807.

It does seem that there are two Samuels. One born March 14th, 1807 and one born February 12th, 1809.

The DNA is telling us that the descendant of Samuel b. 1807 is not related to the descendant of Reuben b. 1824.

My conclusion is that Reuben b. 1824 and Samuel b. 1809 are brothers and Samuel b. 1807 is descended from an entirely different Fry line. My question is which Samuel is the son of Andrew Fry who married Lydia.

Any help is appreciated!

Re: myers lanc. cty.pa.myers

immisty038 — 2013-04-01 05:51:13Z

I don't know THIS man, but the MEYERS/MYERS, BUSH, KARR and others have been connected since about 1770 in HAMPSHIRE/HARDY co. VA

Johnann Michael KARR married a MYER/MEYER back in Schawaigern area in Germany. His father was Hans/Johann Jakob KARR, and his brother, Hans Jacob KARR also, who came to Berk co. PA in 1733. I have this family back into 1500's.

Achhammer Bavaria

charmaineblack — 2013-03-30 04:53:44Z

Searching for Relatives of John and Irene Achhammer. John's parents are Mathias and Mary. They came over from Bavaria and settled in Millvale and surrounding areas. John and Irene eventually settled in Columbia, Pa with their daughters Sarah and Catherine.

Re: Parents of Martin F Witmer

jmyoung365 — 2013-03-26 21:45:52Z

If he did indeed marry a LEIB daughter she was most likely from Warwick Township. I'd investigate the Martin Witmer closest to that township as the most likely if everything else fits.

Joan

Re: Parents of Martin F Witmer

ratlyb — 2013-03-26 17:39:34Z

I have that he was born 1822 in Manor Twp, and lived in E Donegal in 1860, W Hempfield in 1870, 1880 and E Petersburg in 1900.
I did try looking at deeds, but since I don't know the names of any male siblings or his father's name, I don't know how to figure out whether or not I have the correct one. I'm fairly new at research, so I guess I don't know all of the secrets to unraveling family history yet. Thanks for your help.

Re: Parents of Martin F Witmer

pampearson1 — 2013-03-26 17:12:42Z

Lancaster Co Witmers can be difficult to unravel. It's been estimated there were as many as eleven or twelve distinct early Witmer families, which doesn't include families that arrived later.

Do you know which township he lived in? Knowing this, deeds and tax records may help you identify his family. A young man coming of age or newly married often appears on the tax lists next to his father and/or brothers. The tax lists are usually semi-alphabetical, so you can't assume a relationship, but it gives you a good place to start. And, with so many Witmers around, you need a way to narrow down your search.

I have my own index to many (but probably not all) of the Witmer deeds. I find Martin Witmer in 1821, no township listed; Martin Witmer in Earl Twp in 1844; Martin B. Witmer in Manor Twp and Lanc Boro in the 1850s; Martin Witmer in Conestoga Twp in 1854; Martin Witmer in New Holland in 1860; and Martin Witmer in W. Lampeter in 1864. Could any of these be your Martin F. Witmer? If so I'll send you the deed info. The deeds can be accessed online at the website of the Lancaster Co Register of Deeds.

Re: Parents of Martin F Witmer

jmyoung365 — 2013-03-26 15:51:43Z

I did find Witmers in some of the early church records for Lancaster County but they don't go up recently enough to find Martin --- and neither do the will abstracts books I have.

Joan

Re: Parents of Martin F Witmer

ratlyb — 2013-03-26 14:57:05Z

Thanks, Joan. I suppose it's worth a try. At the very least, I may be able to find out more about Mary Ann Leib's family.
It seems that there are many Martin Witmers, and I don't have enough information to tell whether or not I have the right one.

Brenda

Re: Parents of Martin F Witmer

jmyoung365 — 2013-03-26 06:07:00Z

There is really only one LEIB family in Lancaster County --- and the immigrant ancestor Ulrich LEIB had 7 sons...6 of whom married daughters of neighboring landowners surrounding their father's land in Lancaster County. So it might help to know about the LEIBs.

For what it is worth I didn't find any marriage to a WITMER in my LEIB file but it might be worth pursuing. If you can't find the parents of your Martin F. WITMER through direct research looking into who they married and their family can often help you break down that brick wall.

Joan

Re: Parents of Martin F Witmer

ratlyb — 2013-03-25 22:17:40Z

Well, I guess it's a possibility. I did find that family when I was searching for her parents and family. That wouldn't help me with her husband's parents, though. I appreciate your reply.

Re: Parents of Martin F Witmer

jmyoung365 — 2013-03-25 21:21:52Z

I wonder if Anna Mary LEIB could actually be Mary Ann LEIB who you will find in my WorldConnect database:

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...

If so, she is the daughter of Henry LEIB and wife Sarah MILLER.

Joan

Parents of Martin F Witmer

ratlyb — 2013-03-25 19:20:21Z

I'm looking for the parents of Martin F Witmer, born 1822, believed to be in Lancaster county. He had a sister Elizabeth, married to a Hawthorn/Hathorn. The Martin F Witmer I'm looking for was married to Mary Ann Leib, and was of the Mennonite faith. They had a son Elias, who was my great-grandfather.

Brenda

freeman definition

sschatt59 — 2013-03-16 23:15:00Z

Hi Karen,On the early Lancaster County tax lists a freeman is a single man over age 21. An inmate is a man who is renting the property he lives on.

Re: Cemetery at Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church

michaelrjohnson1 — 2013-03-15 00:41:44Z

I can't thank you enough for what you did! If I can ever help you in any way just let me know.

Re: Cemetery at Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church

alissabooth — 2013-03-13 19:11:14Z

Well, I have good news and bad news. I think I have a photograph of the tombstone. But it is not completely legible. It was third in the row and the one next to it was the person that should be 4th in Row G. You may be able to digitally manipulate the image to get it readable by inverting it and playing with settings. I see Catharina on the stone and in the photo. Some of the dates can be made out.

When I left my town it was sunny. When I got to the church, it was snowing. When I returned home, it was raining. Now, 5 minutes later, it is sunny again. Crazy. It is only 5 miles away. If I get out that way again soon, I will try to take another photo, but doubt that it will be much better.

I do have others that I took of the surrounding gravestones if you want them.

Johann Valentine Krug - born in 1689 Germany, immigrated to Lancaster, PA

beatles781 — 2013-03-13 13:26:35Z

Hello,

My 6th great grandfather, Johann Valentine Krug was born in 1689 in Lengefeld, Mittlerer Erzgebirgskreis, Sachsen, Germany (from Ancestry).....and died 2/18/1759 in Lancaster, PA. He was married to Eva Maria Spangler (1726-1808). I don't have any information on his parents who were from Germany, but i show that Eva's parents are Johannas Spangler (1708-1795) and Anna Maria.

I do know that Johann's son, Lieutenant Johann Valentine Krug (b. 1754 - Lancaster, d. 1817 Adams County, PA) was a 2nd Lieutenant in the American Revolution!

Does anyone have any additional information on either of these families and their ancestry?

Much appreciated!
Stephanie

Re: Cemetery at Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church

michaelrjohnson1 — 2013-03-11 10:43:44Z

Yes, it is on 2 Hazel Street. Thank you for considering to help me! I live in Ohio and not able to make a trip to Pennsylvania in the near future. I appreciate it!

Re: Cemetery at Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church

alissabooth — 2013-03-10 18:58:05Z

Is that the one at 2 Hazel St? Let me know the address and I'll see what I can do.

Cemetery at Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church

michaelrjohnson1 — 2013-03-10 16:53:21Z

I am hoping that someone would be able to look for a headstone for me. It is located at the cemetery next to Zion Evangelical Church in Manheim, PA. The person that I am looking for is my 4th great-grandmother. Her name is Catherina Seesholtz and she is buried in row G. Her name could be spelled multiple ways, including Seasholtz, Susholtz, or Eichholz, etc.
Dates of birth/death: 1782-1854
Also, her husband's name was Georg.
I would really appreciate anyone who would be willing to look for me and perhaps photograph it!!!! My family would be very grateful!!

Re: Myers

pampearson1 — 2013-03-08 00:59:01Z

Oops. I meant to say they belonged to the Brethren in Christ community.

Re: Myers

pampearson1 — 2013-03-08 00:39:03Z

One possibility (and I would underline the word "possibility" if I could) might be the following man: Michael Myers, son of John Myers and Anna Maria Therstinger (or Therithinger) of Donegal Twp, Lancaster Co.

This family was part of the Brethren in Church community. I don't have a year of birth for Michael, but his brothers were born in 1777 and 1778. That fits with the timeframe in which your Michael was born.

John Myers died in 1821 leaving property. There is a deed from 1823 in which Michael "Meyer" of Addison Twp, Somerset Co, PA (and formerly of Donegal Twp) sold his share in his father's land to his brothers, Henry and John. Michael's wife was not named in this deed. This is everything I have on Michael.

Myers

hhmyjr — 2013-03-07 14:26:25Z

Looking for Michael and Catharine Myers,believed to be in Lancaster but not sure, Michael was born some were around 1775,again not sure. the one child I know is Benjamin F Myers born around 1799, Probably in Lancaster. I know not mush to go on but any help would be appreciated.

Thank
Harry Myers

Re: WILL DO LOOKUPS for Lancaster County

ronromig49 — 2013-02-27 18:41:26Z

Deborah: I descend from the Sprigel or Spriegel family in Euphrata Colony. I would like to learn about their role in the cloister and experiences: Johannes Sprigel-Jacob Sprigel/Feronica-Michael Sprigel/Maria Gless-Emanuel Spriggle/Elizabeth Snyder.
Emanuel moved to Canal Fulton, Ohio, in the early 1800s. Is there any information about why he and his wife Elizabeth left Pennsylvania?
Can you tell me the meaning of the name Sprigel? I would also like to learn where the family lived before coming to America. Will there be a fee for your research?
Thanks and continued best wishes,
Ron Romig, rromig@cofchrist.org

Lt. David Wood Donaghy....

KDaynes64 — 2013-02-26 20:16:12Z

Trying to find out who his parents are. He was born in 1821 and died 1876. He married Mary Eliza Louvier in Old St. George Methodist Episcopal Church on 11 June 1849. Does anyone have any information or any books they can check. I've just exhausted all resources. I'm desperate!

Re: Need Info: Daniel Miller 1806-1886

BarndanceGal — 2013-02-25 20:49:21Z

Did u ever find any further information on your Daniel Miller? Mine was born around 1803-8? The son of Martin Miller of Strasburg. I was just going through the county again and found my old reply to you. Dont know if you ever read it or not. You know how it is. You put in names and put in more names! Thanks Dee