Dauphin - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Schaffer

dennissmith01 — 2009-11-02 03:56:17Z

My GG Grandfather, William Henry Smith was born Aug 17, 1845 in Dauphin Co PA. He married Mary A. Shaffer in Polk, Ashland Co., OHIO on July 11, 1867. My original posts to rootsweb have an invalid address. I now have this existing address for any replies.

POW/MIA Korean War

powmiadna — 2009-11-01 15:32:33Z

I am searching for the families of 2 soldiers that were POW/KIA in the Korean War. When they entered service they gave Dauphin County as thier home of record

Soldier: LONNIE HOCKADAY
Born: 1929
Date of loss; Dec. 19, 1950 KIA

Soldier:DONALD NORMAN BARNETT
Born: Aug. 19, 1931
Loss: November 29, 1951 MIA

When the Korean War ended the enemy never returned or accounted for over 8,000 of our servicemen. They died in their hands. That was over 50 years ago. Since that time DNA has been perfected and also they are recovering remains in North Korea. Our government is obligated to return those remains to the proper family. DNA samples have been obtained from most of the families of these missing soldiers. For various reasons some families have not been located. These are 117 families from Pennsylvania that are missing and 2 from Dauphin County.

When the remains are recovered and identified they will be returned to the family for proper burial. I am just an old (79years) Combat Veteran out of the Korean War and thankful that I did return. I consider this a very noble cause and I hope that you can help in some way to find this family. For more information on the project you may go to http://www.jpac.pacom.mil/. My part in the program is to match up the lost families with the proper agency.

I will be grateful for any assistance in locating this family.

Harold Davis
40th Infantry Division
Korea ’52-‘53
910-791-2333
hgdavis@bellsouth.net

Re: My Dauphin Co. Database

RCramer1286 — 2009-10-29 20:57:44Z

I may have found Henry Clay Frantz. I have cemetery records for Dauphin Cemetery near the town of Dauphin:

Henry C. Frantz 1844-1921
Louisa, 1856-19?

Please write me direct at rogercubs@aol.com

Roger Cramer

Re: will do Look-ups in 1896 Biographical Encyclopedia of Dauphin

wrightchr — 2009-10-29 18:47:33Z

thanks for looking.

Re: will do Look-ups in 1896 Biographical Encyclopedia of Dauphin

midge1249 — 2009-10-29 17:08:27Z

Sorry - if you note, the book was written in 1896 about Dauphin county and only concentrates on those who had lived in Dauphin county quite a while. Unfortunately, Arthur Cooper Wright is not in the book.

Re: will do Look-ups in 1896 Biographical Encyclopedia of Dauphin

wrightchr — 2009-10-28 19:58:29Z

Looking for information regarding Arthur Cooper Wright and family:
Derry Township, Dauphin County, PA
Arthur Cooper Wright, Sr. born 1853 England, immigrated 1884-88 to Derry Township. Moved 1919 to East Pennsboro Twp, Cumberland County, died 1920.
Spouse: Margaret E. (do not have maiden name) born 1860, immigrated 1885-88 to Derry Township. Died 1916.
Children: Arthur Cooper Wright, Jr. married to Virgie Yingst of Derry Twp.
Other Children: Agnes, John, Henry, Rose, William, Edward, Mary...all Cooper Wright surname.

Anything you have would help. Thanks.

Re: My Dauphin Co. Database

maryjanegoss — 2009-10-28 19:57:32Z

Thanks for checking.

Re: My Dauphin Co. Database

wrightchr — 2009-10-28 19:57:12Z

Looking for information regarding Arthur Cooper Wright and family:
Derry Township, Dauphin County, PA
Arthur Cooper Wright, Sr. born 1853 England, immigrated 1884-88 to Derry Township. Moved 1919 to East Pennsboro Twp, Cumberland County, died 1920.
Spouse: Margaret E. (do not have maiden name) born 1860, immigrated 1885-88 to Derry Township. Died 1916.
Children: Arthur Cooper Wright, Jr.
Agnes, John, Henry, Rose, William, Edward, Mary...all Cooper Wright surname.

Anything you have would help. Thanks.

Re: My Dauphin Co. Database

sonyafox90 — 2009-10-28 19:56:16Z

Okay help which of my Grandpa Clifford Bordner's grandmas was pure Cherokee Indian?Bordner or Yerges side?
My eldest son and I are trying to figure this out.
Thank you for the help,
Sonya Bordner Fox

Re: Cooper Wright family, Derry Township, 1884 - 1920's

wrightchr — 2009-10-28 17:30:10Z

Great...thanks Allen.

Re: My Dauphin Co. Database

AllenFrantz — 2009-10-28 15:36:50Z

I tried here in 2007, "Hello, I'm looking for any help finding eariler generations connected to Henry Frantz b. 22 Dec 1801, d. 11 Nov 1876. Or Ester Bates, his wife."

Let's add a couple of names I've now connected to - Children include:
John, Polly, Elizabeth wed John Barnhart, David wed Amanda Earley, Peter wed Elizabeth, Levina, Alexander wed Elizabeth First(my line), Caroline with Noah Roth, Henry Clay wed Katie First, & 2nd wife Lucy Lindemuth (I have the D.C. Bio.), lastly Benneville, born about 1848.
Surnames married in or next gen.: Clinton Linebauch, Jennie Cassel, Sarah Gibson, and Malinda Roth.

I live in the area and have been to state library and archives, also local historical groups. I'm just not looking in or for the right info? Some of the answers are in, Who did the girls marry? But I've had no luck.

Seems odd that Henry Clay's descendants are so hard to find. I have his children from two marriages; Sherman, Harvey, Anna, then Joseph and Sarah issued Norman a grandchild, next were Carrie May, Jessie Daisey and Cora Mabel.

Any help is greatly apprieciated. Will return the favor... I have a full boat membership at Ancestry.

Thanks

Re: Cooper Wright family, Derry Township, 1884 - 1920's

AllenFrantz — 2009-10-28 15:00:03Z

HAHS, Hummelstown Area Historical Society has the Hummelstown Sun indexed Extracts from start to about 1955. Very easy to use. email to them or call on Mondays.
http://www.hummelstownhistorical.org/

Re: Hummelstown Brownstone Company

wrightchr — 2009-10-28 02:10:05Z

Thanks...I need to find time to get to these places. I've also looked at going to the Catholic Diocese of Harrisburg's Archives located along Union Deposit Rd.

Re: Hummelstown Brownstone Company

ThomasCArnold — 2009-10-28 01:56:54Z

The Hummelstown Brownstone Company, was formerly the Pennsylvania Brown Free Stone Company.

Have you tried:

The Dauphin County Historical Society, records titled Hummelstown Brownstone Manuscript Group. I'm sure they will have some good information and advice.

The PA Historical and Museum Commission erected a historical marker in 2005.

Or the PA State Library for the Hummelstown Sun Newspaper or any books they may have.

Including, Ben F. Olena "Hummelstown Brownstone - Five Quarries Mined the Prized Sandstone from 1867-1929", In: Pennsylvania magazine, Vol. 19, No. 6, November/December 1996, pages 26-29 with four historical photographs.

Re: Cooper Wright family, Derry Township, 1884 - 1920's

wrightchr — 2009-10-27 21:47:23Z

I have located the burial locations for the Cooper Wright family at St. Mary's Catholic Cemetery located at Main and Vine Streets in Middletown, PA.

Both Arthur Cooper Wright Sr. and Jr. worked at a quarry, circa 1910. I'm assuming this quarry was associated with the Hummelstown Brownstone Company.

I'm looking for photos or other information regarding former employees of the Hummelstown Brownstone Company...maybe a listing of surnames of previous workers. Any thoughts on this?

Re: Hummelstown Brownstone Co. & Industry in the latter half of the 19th century

wrightchr — 2009-10-27 14:49:06Z

I will definitely look at this. Thanks.

Re: Edward Howard Rehrer

ThomasCArnold — 2009-10-20 01:38:39Z

Ollie Jane Coomer was living in Reading,PA when
Edward Howard was born.
Attached is from Indiantown Gap National Cemetery.

Edward was a 1st LT. in US Army, entered 22 Apr 1943, discharged 3 Jul 1946.

He married Vera E. Baker, in 1949 in California.
cemetery pic attached

Helen Louise Harvel, b. 1934, d. 1976 married
Franklin Delano Thompson, b.1933, d. 1984

Re: will do Look-ups in 1896 Biographical Encyclopedia of Dauphin

DorothySwanson18 — 2009-10-19 22:01:39Z

Thanks so much for checking. Dorothy

Re: My Dauphin Co. Database

RCramer1286 — 2009-10-16 23:30:04Z

Sorry, I don't have any information on this family.

Roger

Re: My Dauphin Co. Database

RCramer1286 — 2009-10-15 03:52:22Z

Sorry, I don't find any information on this family.

Roger

Re: Flickinger's Island

EBissinger7 — 2009-10-11 23:26:07Z

Thanks! George Sever bought 'Flickinger's Island' ~ 1831. He bought it from John Flickinger. He died in 1832 and then it was sold to Joseph Stocker ~1834. I wonder if maybe the island in question is actually Stucker's island? Also, I would think that the islands would change over time. What may have been one island may have become two or three, or vice versa. You can even see on the maps how the shapes of the islands changed from 1875 to the present.

Re: Flickinger's Island

EBissinger7 — 2009-10-09 20:57:16Z

Thanks!! It was hard to read the writing and I'm not familiar with the area.

Flickinger's Island

EBissinger7 — 2009-10-03 12:39:27Z

Does anybody know which of the islands in the Susquehanna used to be known as Flickinger's Island? It was sold by John Flickinger to George Sever in 1831. The deed says that the island is within the limits of Swatara Township and opposite the mouth of the Yellow Burches (sp?) Creek.

Re: Schindler Family Lykens Church records

CynthiaMaloney — 2009-10-03 18:28:44Z

Hi
I am sorry the baby's name was not schlindler it was From page 93
all my records are from my book collection most of them are by Phillip Rice & Jean Dellock
in dauphin co archives vol 2 there is a Johannah Fromm Williamstown died june 28 1915 age 55 yrs
Zion Lutheran Church Lykens I'm not sure if this belongs could of been transcript error in first record
pg 12
Rose Amelia b/sept 2 1866 bp feb 17 1867 d/o Charles & Johanna Fromm d/nov 9 1868n2 yr 2m 7 day
Catherine Elyth b/feb 1 1867 bp feb 17 1867 d/o Ulnis & Sophia Konick
pg 10
Earnest August b/sept 26 1864 bp feb 19 1865 s/o Julius & Sophia Konig sponsors mother & uncle
St Johns Lutheran Lykens
pg 17
William Edward b may 14 1884 bp june 22 1884 s/o Carley Weineck & wife Emma sponsors Mr & Ms Ernest Slinder & Mr & Mrs Charley Fromm
pg 44
Lizzie b/mar 27 1894 bp sept 23 1894 d/o Charley Fromme & wife Sophia nee Konig sponsors Mrs Hose & Mrs Konig
pg 120
Mrs Amelia Weineck -Hose nee Koenig born dec 8 1846 Hanover Germany twice married her first husband died 31 years ago this ubion was blessed with 2 sons 7 daughters 3 of whom preceeded her to eternity she died feb 11 1916 her 2 sons 4 daughters 3 sisters and one brother moun her departure
pg 38
Amelia Sophia b/sept (nr) 1891 bp may 1 1892 d/o Charley & Sophia nee Konig sponsors Mrs Amelia Hose & Charly Weinneck
pg 43
Fredrick William b/nov 26 1893 bp mar 7 1894 s/o John Williams wf Annie nee Konig sponsor Charley Wineck
Hope this helpful too
I have book of Dauphin Co Vitals 1 and it has Williamtown Cemeteries in it Under Seyberts there is a Autors note stating there are 80-100 burials without markers also a pile of markers there are half way into the ground
do have any names of Wilminia & Peter Millers children? and birth dates it would be helpful in lookups let me know Cindi

Re: will do Look-ups in 1896 Biographical Encyclopedia of Dauphin

midge1249 — 2009-10-19 19:10:44Z

I've been away for a month, so apologize for my delay in getting back to you. There is only one McAlister listed in the book, James, who was the only child of a McAlister and Barr of Maryland. No mention at all of an Alexander McAlister (either with one or two "Ls"). Sorry

Park family Harrisburg

GerryDoyle51 — 2009-10-06 06:43:42Z

I have a photo of a Charles E Park given to my Great Grandfather John McGrath and notes him as a cousin. In the 1910 census Charles was 17 living with his Parents John Park 61, Ellen Park 61 and 3 siblings including John Park "a druggist own store" all at 632 Race Road Harrisburg. In the 1930 census Charles is at W Chocolate Ave age 38 and a Clergyman in the Catholic Church. His elder sister Gertrude Park age 49 was with him.
Charles may have died in 1972.

I would like to find out how to contact the Catholic Church in Harrisburg to find out more about Charles Park or if anyone knows this family.
Gerry in Australia

Re: George Washington Rehrer

randyrehrer — 2009-10-15 20:25:58Z

George W. Rehrer appears on the census for Middletown,Dauphin county, Pa. I know nothing about being married to anyone else.

Re: SNYDER, George W and Minerva Alice

ThomasCArnold — 2009-10-12 21:31:27Z

Mike,

While researching the Snyder family, I did not come across your Snyder's living on Herr St in Harrisburg.

Just to be sure, I rechecked the online 1930 Harrisburg directory. Although you list Henry and William C. & Margaret, in the 1930 directory, I do not see them listed.

Please let me know if there is another 1930 directory that I should be checking.

Thanks,
Tom

Re: SNYDER, George W and Minerva Alice

ThomasCArnold — 2009-10-07 01:59:49Z

Hi Jan,

Not related, just trying to help.

I could not find anything that Flora married a Levier.

The information was from Polk City Directories.

Here's a link to the online 1930 Polk Harrisburg Directory.
http://www.distantcousin.com/directories/pa/harrisburg/1930/...

There you will find Flora Anna Snyder Berthel.
She is living at 326 Crescent St. with her parents.
She married Charles Berthel in Dauphin county, 21 June 1917.

Flora, age 36, born in Brookville, PA.
Her father is listed as a blacksmith.
Mother's name listed as Nerva.

Charles, age 35, born in Steelton, PA.
His father, Henry listed as dead, born unknown.
His mother, Annie, born in Germany.
Her maiden name is listed as Reinbolta.

Re: Catholic Church

ThomasCArnold — 2009-10-07 01:31:26Z

Gerry,

Do you know the name of the Church.

Here is a link that may help.
http://www.hbgdiocese.org/Default.aspx?PageID=f33e16bc-601f-...

Could this be your Father Park.
http://www.stjosephparishhanover.org/History.htm

Also, W. Chocolate Avenue is probably in the town of Hershey, PA.

Hope this helps.

Re: My Dauphin Co. Database

maryjanegoss — 2009-10-16 15:58:17Z

Around 1878-1880 a child named Henry Goss(age 10-12) was sentenced by the Lancaster County Court of Common Pleas to the House of Refuge in Phila for his crime of Incorrigibility by his Guardian, Daniel Blocher, of Penn Township near Penwyn. The only clues I found in the House of Refuge documents are, Henry spoke German,he stated his mother was dead,he saw his father last about 5 years ago, and he mentioned a brother.
My researcher found no info on Henry in Lancaster Co. Since the Dauphin Co. line is close to where Daniel Blocher, the guardian lived, I am looking for ties for Henry in Dauphin County. Henry was born between 1866-1872.

Re: SNYDER, George W and Minerva Alice

egypte1 — 2009-10-11 22:25:18Z

Jan, I don't know if we are linking anywhere along the line or not.My gg uncle Henry lived at 405 and 407 Herr street in Harrisburg, and his son also lived at 405 herr street around 1945. Also his son William C lived there with his wife Margaret. looking at both 1930 and 1936 city directories.
I also have a Snyder that was living in Illinois with a Sophia C Schindler who appears to have been a gg aunt of mine, but I haven't fully made the conection except that Sophia (B in germany 1847)and her son Harry (B in Penna. 1867)and daughter Laura C (born in Ill 1907)

Re: Flickinger's Island

egypte1 — 2009-10-11 14:09:44Z

A link to another view--not the name you are looking for, but one of these islands has to be the one you are looking for.

Mike
http://www.ieee802.org/5/www8025org/meetings/jul98/pdf/07-07...

Re: Flickinger's Island

egypte1 — 2009-10-11 13:51:31Z

Here is a link if you have not found it yet to a picture of that island.
http://www.historicmapworks.com/Map/US/13516/Swatara+Townshi...

This is protected for printing and watermarked but you will see the islands above P. Stucker's and one of those two must be the island you are looking for. Sorry I could not for the life of me find a map with all those islands with names--but I know that is out there.

This is a map from the east shore, and living in the area I know the Yellow Breeches Creek would come out from the west right accross from these two islands.

Re: Schindler Family Lykens Church records

egypte1 — 2009-10-04 13:08:55Z

Cindi,
Your information here has opened up a world of relationships I was not aware of here. When Ernest left the Lutheran Church to become Catholic I believe these families separated socially somewhat. Ernest was finally Baptised (sub-condition)in 1894, but starting in 1870 all the children start showing up as BP in St. Mary's Catholic Church.
Wilmina Miller and Peter Miller had one son that I know of Adam,(B.1846) who was 14 on the 1860 US Census. Wilminia I believe was married before to a Schindler and had at least 3 children: Earnest, Sophia, Frederick--and I suspect the Carl Charles Osgar in lykens was also a son. Earnest, Sophia (Koenig), and Fred (wife Sophia Slim)are listed in the Family Bible.

Be on the look out for a marriage that caused Earnest daughter Ellen to disappear after 1880. She either died, or ran away with a tall, dark, and handsome stranger!

Thanks again for so much great information.

Mike

Re: SNYDER, George W and Minerva Alice

egypte1 — 2009-10-13 00:23:50Z

SORRY, I was not clear in my post--these were William H and Margaret E Schindler, with their sons William C, and Earl living at 405 Herr in the Polk directory's from 1936-37,38, 39, & 40, recently added to Ancestry. (they have been calling this part of their alternate 1940 census) In 1930 it shows them living in house 407, but then they must have moved to 405.

///You are here: Search > U.S. City Directories > Pennsylvania > Harrisburg > 1936-1937 > Polk's Greater Harrisburg (Dauphin County, PA) City Directory////

The Snyder's were in-laws That moved to Downers Grove Ill., and really not likely related to the poster.

Re: Flickinger's Island

egypte1 — 2009-10-12 03:51:19Z

Floods have changed the river and especially the islands many times over the years. And Stucker and Stocker, the way I have been looking at names since I started here is the name that is on the tombstone is the right name--as well as the the name thatwas on the Birth Cert., and the latter has more weight many times.

I think you have found your island. Many search all their lives and never find half as much!

Re: Park family Harrisburg

egypte1 — 2009-10-07 12:00:08Z

Go here and then follow the links to history and archives.

http://www.hbgdiocese.org/Default.aspx

I think you will find access to far more than you ever wanted as they have a great archives dept.

Mike

Schindler Family Lykens Church records

egypte1 — 2009-10-03 06:11:47Z

Cindi,
Thanks so much for this information. As is often the case more questions arise, like this section:
St Johns Lutheran Berrysburg
Johanna Sophia Ernstina Schlinder d/o Carl F From & JohannaCh M nee Schlindler b/may 3 1861 bp may 19 1861 sponsors parents & E Schlinder & L Konig

Since the babies last name is Schlinder & father is Carl F From and Mother is JohannaCh M nee (maiden name)Schlinder does that mean the parents were not yet married? E is probably Earnest Schindler & L Konig appears to be the husband of Sophia Schindler Keonig from the family Bible. His first name alludes me.

The others Wilmina & Peter Miller, and Keonig's lived mostly in Williamstown I believe.

Thanks again, and may I ask are these records in a library or historic society, or your own private colection? I live in Hbg and am willing to travel to photograph any documents that may be available for that purpose.

Mike Schindler
Schindlermiked@aol.com if you want to email me directly

Hummelstown Brownstone Co. & Industry in the latter half of the 19th century

PeggyBPerazzo — 2009-10-15 23:31:08Z

If you had relatives who were involved in the Hummelstown brownstone industry in Pennsylvania in the latter half of the 19th century, you might be interested in reading the material below, which was contributed and written by Ben F. Olena. (Mr. Olena has included many photographs of buildings constructed of Hummelstown brownstone.)

You will find his account at the following web address:

“Hummelstown Brownstone: A study of the Hummelstown brownstone industry and its contribution to the American building arts,” by Ben F. Olena, on Stone Quarries and Beyond web site.
http://quarriesandbeyond.org/articles_and_books/hummelstown/...

(Note: I have included only some of the surnames from the book in the "Surnames" section of this entry. There are many more surnames that are not included in this list.)

We also have an old booklet on our web site entitled, "Hummelstown Brownstone Company," published in the early 1900s - a PDF file.
http://quarriesandbeyond.org/articles_and_books/hummelstown_...

Peggy B. Perazzo
pbperazzo@comcast.net
Stone Quarries and Beyond
http://quarriesandbeyond.org/

Re: My Dauphin Co. Database

grizziesgirl — 2009-10-12 19:21:52Z

Thomas Daniel MARTIN (b. 8 Apr. 1796) m. Hannah CLARK (b. 1798) 14 Feb 1819 (MARTIN family bible did not include locations other than the known PA. These people were of Scottish/British Isles descent according to family notes.) In the 1820 Londonderry census there is a listing for Thomas MARTIN which seems plausible. (The enumeration is for one "couple" w/o children.) Children of Thomas and Hannah were William Davison b. 29 Jul 1820 and Thomas D. b. 16 Jan 1823. Thomas Daniel MARTIN d. 15 May 1823 and his mother, Fanny (unk.) MARTIN (b. 1756) died 31 Mar 1822; one hopes they were buried in the same lot. Hannah CLARK MARTIN then married John ZIMMERMAN and lived in Lebanon Co., Hanover. I'd be glad for any clues your database might hold for my research. Thanks for your generous offer of help.

Re: SNYDER, George W and Minerva Alice

jpfinke1 — 2009-10-10 22:33:30Z

Tom,

Thank you again for all the information you have sent. If you should run across anything else related to this family, I'd appreciate hearing from you.

Thanks again, Jan

Re: George Washington Rehrer

HbgPA — 2009-10-15 17:53:38Z

Are you sure George married Ollie in 1924?
Do you know where they "met" and got married?
George's wife died in 1923.

Was Edward Howard born in 1922.

Also, I do not think that Helen Louise is a child of George W. Rehrer. What is her birth date?

Are you sure you have the correct family.

Re: George Washington Rehrer

HbgPA — 2009-10-18 21:57:31Z

You say George & Ollie... "met and got married".
Do you know where?
Are there any other children, except for the two listed below.

What is the birth of your Edward Howard and the birth date of your Helen Louise.
Where they born in Middletown.

Re: Flickinger's Island

kaributler72 — 2009-10-09 16:56:32Z

hello...

I'm sorry I can't answer your island question, but the creek in question is the Yellow Breeches.

Thomas A Bell House in Lower Paxton Twp

GFRadke — 2009-10-09 13:20:23Z

List,

Thought that you might be interested in this web site on the Thomas A Bell House in Lower Paxton Twp, Dauphin Co., PA.

http://nose4bs.com/TAB_home.htm

Jerry Radke,
Harrisburg, PA

Re: Flickinger/Stucker Island

AllenFrantz — 2009-10-12 14:53:23Z

Another link:
http://webs.lanset.com/azazella/eppley1.html
John Epley, with his wife and mother, sold his father's land
in Lancaster, and in 1783 purchased a tract of land from the estate of Charles Klugh, located in "Paxtang" Twp., Dauphin Co. This tract of land included 144 acres, and an island in the Susquehanna, probably the island known today as Stucker Island.

Re: George Washington Rehrer

expectamiracle2 — 2009-10-15 03:48:02Z

George Washington Rehrer married Ollie Jane Bush Coomer February 20, 1924. Ollie Jane was born March 18, 1893 in Lee County, Virginia. Moved to Pennsylvania, met and married George W. Had 2 children to George W., a son - Edward Howard and a daughter - Helen Louise.

Ollie Jane was previously married to Colonel (Kern) Coomer of Lee County, Virginia and they had 4 children together before she divorced him and moved to Pennsylvania.

She was living in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania at 919 Rose Street (according to the Harrisburg City Directory and lived in Harrisburg the remainder of her life. She died October 30, 1968 at the age of 75.

Would loved any information you may have for George Rehrer prior to his marriage to Ollie Jane.

Thanks for any information you can share with me.

Re: George Washington Rehrer

expectamiracle2 — 2009-10-17 21:55:05Z

YES! Same person, George Washington Rehrer. He did indeed marry Ollie Jane and father children with her!
I know George's wife died in 1923 and also know when Edward Howard was born and (prior to their marriage but it happens all the time).
How do you know when Edward Howard was born? Do you already have information on this family?
Why would you doubt that Helen Louise was his child? Do you have any proven information to the contrary.
If you have any information on this family I would love it if you would share it with me and then we could figure out the discrepancies and set the record straight. I thought I had the correct facts but am always willing to check further.
Thank you for your help in getting the facts straight with any information you might share.

Re: George Washington Rehrer

expectamiracle2 — 2009-10-19 01:17:15Z

You question my information and I can appreciate that but you apparently have information to the contrary. Exactly what information do you have that would make you question my post? If you would share that with me it would be great and then we could figure out this mystery.

I also have to wonder- is HbgPA Tom or Bill? Just curious.