Adams - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Relatives of Mervin Starner

mrstew162 — 2009-11-09 01:03:20Z

I am searching for relatives of Mervin Starner born 1890 and died 1975 in Adams County. Wife was Merle Bertha Taylor died 1936 in Aspers. His foster daughter was-Mrs. Roy D. Culp. Brothers were-Clayton Starner (Aspers) and Roy Starner (Bendersville). Sisters were-Mrs. Gover Smith (Mt. Holly Springs) and Mrs. Mae Rice (Gettysburg). This is my birth father. I was born in 1960 and adopted in 1963. Mother was Naomi Thornton (never married to Mervin Starner). My birth name was Tonya Marie (or Maria) Thornton. Do not know if Mervin Starner even knew I existed. Looking for genological information for any living relatives and medical information to pass along to my children. Also on facebook at "Mervin Starner Relatives" Thank you for your help!!

Re: CONRAD STULTZ THE MYSTERY MAN - OF MD AND PA

jacknovicki — 2009-11-02 03:55:18Z

Other than the Tax Lists the first reference, in Adams Co., PA, for Conrad is an ad in the Adams Sentinel, dated May 8, 1842, headlined "Pennsylvania Riflemen!" It is signed Conrad Stultz O.S. and orders members, "...to parade at the Inn of Alexander M'Grew two miles below Mumasburg on the Hometown road."

The family of Nicholas Stultz came from Carroll Co., MD and in a document (retainer agreement) found at the Adams Co. Historical Society he seeks information about his father's pension. On February 18, 1852 he engaged David McConaughy (an attorney) to, "...recover the claims to pension... Bounty lands and dues, in the right of the service of my father Conrad Stultz in the war of the Revolution - who died 12 years ago - both in Carroll Co. Maryland." We refer to his father as Conrad Stultz [The Elder].

There are a number of references to Nicholas in documents found at the Carroll Co. Historical and Genealogical Society. Two refer to his father's will and one to a auction sale of his father's property in Carroll Co., MD. A Conrad Stultz [The Younger] is also recorded in the document but no relationship is noted.

In March, 1842, Conrad [the younger] married a Matilda Leas, "...from Carroll County, MD..." Conrad's, possible brother, Grandville Stultz moved from Adams Co., PA to MD for a time after his marriage.

Nicholas's grandfather, also called Nicholas, is named in his grandfather's will who lived in Fredrick Co., MD.

Since his father and mother lived in Carroll Co., MD I must assume that Nicholas lived with them in MD. I recall a mention that Conrad [the elder] came to MD from Lancaster Co., PA. It is possible that Nicholas was born there.

I have some recollection of Conrad coming to Adams Co., PA before his father and mother. I just can't find the record.

Still the question remains, Is Conrad the son of Nicholas?

Thanks again for all your help. Jack Novicki

Re: CONRAD STULTZ THE MYSTERY MAN - OF MD AND PA

edmorrill33 — 2009-11-01 23:27:30Z

I found Nicholas first in Adams county then Conrad as far as the tax lists are concerned for Hamilton Bann. Did you find Conrad some place else earlier in Adams Co?

Re: CONRAD STULTZ THE MYSTERY MAN - OF MD AND PA

mszig11 — 2009-11-01 23:27:03Z

"Poor Childrens List" what is it and where does one find it?

I am searching for David Zeigler b 6 Dec 1790....he marries the second time in 1838 to Hannah E Ross at the Bermudian Church in Adams County and I can track him after that, but I cannot find his first wife, their family or his parents....maybe the poor children's list could help me.

Thank You,

Re: CONRAD STULTZ THE MYSTERY MAN - OF MD AND PA

jacknovicki — 2009-10-31 23:06:02Z

Hi edmorrill33 (Ed?):

I took a look at some of your old early posts and found one with the name Ed addressed to you. Hope I got it right.

Thanks so much for you efforts. After Conrad moved to Adams Co., PA and his POSSIBLE father and mother Nicholas and Catharine Stults followed him from Carroll Co., MD to Adams Co., Pa there were Stultz family members flocking around Adams Co., like flies on an old hamburger. Sadly, nothing concrete has shows up to prove that Conrad is really their son.

All the peripheral evidence makes me, in my gut, know that he is their son but I have nothing to prove it. Conrad was born in 1812 and I have not found anything in the Maryland records, as yet, to connect Conrad and Nicholas and Catherine. It is possible that he was born in Lancaster Co., Pa. Haven’t got to working there yet. The poor children list is a new one on me. Thanks for the look-up. Nicholas, Catherine and three other Stultzes are buried in the Old Lower March Creek Presbyterian Church Cemetery located at the in/edge of Gettysburg, Adams Co., PA. Conrad and some family members are buried in the Chamberlains Cemetery near Cashtown in Franklin Township, Adams Co., PA. They are a good 10 miles distance from each other.

Again, thanks for your efforts. If I can help you in any way please let me know.

Regards, Jack Novicki – pajznovici@aol.com

Re: CONRAD STULTZ THE MYSTERY MAN - OF MD AND PA

edmorrill33 — 2009-10-31 03:28:54Z

In 1850 Conrad and Nicholas are in Hamilton Bann Twp Adams county. Given Conrad's birth of March 1812 he should show up in the tax record when he is 21 or about 1833-34.
1834 is the first time Nicholas shows up in the tax record for Hamilton Bann. He shows up all years thru 1842. Some times as Stoltz,Stults and Stulz. Conrad first shows up in 1837 as a single man and is single and in the taxes thru 1842. There are no other Stultz families in Hamilton Bann. based on the info you have and the above I would say Conrad is the son of Nicholas.
Other ineresting items. In 1840 Frederick Stoltz showed up as single. In 1836 in the poor children's list were EIsaiah 11, catherine 8 and Granville 6 Stultz. Nicholas didn't own land in Hamilton Bann but he normally had from 2 to 4 horses
Catherine married James W. Flenner 10 Apr 1851.

You may wish to contact Mrs Mary L. Clegg Schmoker of Phoenix,Az about the Stultz family. I don't know if she is still living.

Re: Dr. George H. Kobler - Born Adams Co., Pa

bart101463 — 2009-10-29 03:55:18Z

Hi:
I am descended from The Jordy family. Do you know of the existance of a photograph of Caroline Jordy or her parents George and Margaret Jordy?

Thanks,

Bart Sugden

Adams County Archives Update

KFrancis7728 — 2009-10-26 23:48:20Z

Re: Staley twins of San Marcos CA

greg1umea10mvmm6i39s53pf2juageuv6 — 2009-10-08 23:57:31Z

Hi Patricia,
I wonder where they went too?
They were not my freinds so to speak but they lived next store to my best friend Craig Abel.

Have you checked Facebook?

My name is Greg Hill, I went to San Marcos Junior High too.
Sometimes I miss those days (even though I got in a lot of trouble).

If I ever find them I will let them that yor are looking for them.
Take care....
gh

Re: Markle/Strausbaugh

strausie001 — 2009-10-06 18:09:10Z

Thanks, Ned. It is strausie001@msn.com. I really appreciate this.

Re: Markle/Strausbaugh

nlittle5 — 2009-10-06 17:44:35Z

I can send you the info I have, but I need your email address. Ned

Re: Markle/Strausbaugh

strausie001 — 2009-10-06 16:56:32Z

Since I am new to Ancestry, I am not sure how to do that. I need to know who was the first descendant to come over, from what region did they come from, and really the lineage to my grandmother, M. Grace Markle, who married Claude I. Strausbaugh.

Re: Markle/Strausbaugh

nlittle5 — 2009-10-06 12:44:59Z

Please contact me directly and let me know what information you need concerning Markle/Strausbaugh. Ned

Re: Markle/Strausbaugh

strausie001 — 2009-10-06 10:17:14Z

Thanks, Ned, for your prompt response. No, you sent my brother Neil (Strausbaugh) Markle/Strausbaugh information. My married name is Noel, but I am looking for the Markle/Strausbaugh information. Thanks again for your help.

Re: Markle/Strausbaugh

haory — 2009-10-06 09:07:08Z

See "The seven Families" at the following URL:

http://noel.mcn.org/

Re: Markle/Strausbaugh

nlittle5 — 2009-10-06 01:35:08Z

Debbie, I don't remember sending Noel information,but I'm sure I did. Please let me know what you need and I'll try to help you. Ned Little

Re: Markle/Strausbaugh

strausie001 — 2009-10-06 00:54:46Z

My name is Deborah (Debbie) Noel (formerly Strausbaugh). A few years ago my brother Neil Strausbaugh contacted Ned Little and Sandra Davis re information on our family. He is unable to locate the information and I was hoping that someone help me trace back to the area they came from and at what point they arrived in the US (son's school project). I would love to see pictures as well. Thanks for your time.

Re: CONRAD STULTZ THE MYSTERY MAN - OF MD AND PA

jacknovicki — 2009-09-28 04:10:31Z

Hi:
I looked for a daughter of Nicholas and Catharine STULTZ named Luanna without success. They did have one named Hannah who was born around the same time. I was wondering did you see the original entry or a copy of the handwritten entry or was it a transcription of the church records?

If Luanna was a transcription error and should be Hannah it would explain a lot. Luanna could have died in childhood and that is why she did not show up in any other record.
Hannah is buried beside Nicholas and Catharine STULTZ in the Lower Marsh Creek Presbyterian Church, Gettysburg, Adams County, Pennsylvania (On Line).

Thanks again, Jack Novicki

Re: St. Aloysius Cemetery in Littlestown

2009-09-06 21:40:20Z

The earlier records have been published. Contct me at stock@netrax,net.

Re: Family's That Heard Lincoln at Gettysburg

APCAMPLESE — 2009-09-23 03:30:17Z

Different Culp family but probably related in some way. I believe these were Andrew Culp's sons or brothers.

Re: Family's That Heard Lincoln at Gettysburg

APCAMPLESE — 2009-09-21 00:53:15Z

No, there was a blacksmith shop on S. Washington Street owned by members of the Culp family. There was an archeological dig on this site circa 2006 prior to the area being developed. In the 1880s, the Mundorf family became associated with this enterprise through marriage. I found an article on the dig some years back but cannot now locate it. I believe the Mundorf associated with the shop was Jacob McClellan Mundorf. He married Emma Culp. I do not now which Culp family she was from. There were several on S. Washington St. during the Civil War.

Anita C.

Re: Family's That Heard Lincoln at Gettysburg

APCAMPLESE — 2009-09-19 21:29:42Z

No There was a Culp-Mundorf operation in Gettysburg also. It was the site of a fairly recent archeological excavation.

Re: Family's That Heard Lincoln at Gettysburg

APCAMPLESE — 2009-09-19 16:01:10Z

Is this Culp family connected to the blacksmith shop/livery in Gettysburg at that time?

Prospect Hill Cemetery, York County

KFrancis7728 — 2009-09-18 13:11:00Z

I transcribed and added about 800 new photos during the past week.

To view photos only -
http://usgwarchives.net/pa/york/1picts/cemeteries/prospect-h...

To view text only -
http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/york/cemeteries/picdesc/pro...

Good luck with your research!

Kathy Francis
File Manager PA USGenWeb Archives
Adams County - http://www.usgwarchives.net/pa/adams/
York County - http://www.usgwarchives.net/pa/york/

Prospect Hill Cemetery, York Co. - York County Archives Cemetery Update

KFrancis7728 — 2009-09-10 17:17:03Z

This is also being posted on the York County board.

On September 8, 2009, I started transcribing the approximately 30,000 photographs I have for this cemetery. Since it may take me up to two years to completely transcribe all the photographs, I have decided to update the web page frequently instead of waiting until I am completely finished. I am currently planning on a weekly update, but I know there will be times where you will not see updates for maybe months at a time. It is impossible to work on this non-stop.

I have created a new page for Prospect Hill.
To view photographs -
http://usgwarchives.net/pa/york/1picts/cemeteries/prospect-h...

To view the transcription of the photographs -
http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/york/cemeteries/picdesc/pro...

About 450 photographs were previously transcribed for this cemetery. Those photographs are available here -
http://usgwarchives.net/pa/york/1picts/cemeteries/prospect-h... or if you prefer text only -
http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/york/cemeteries/picdesc/old...

Good luck with your research!

Kathy Francis
PA USGenWeb Archives
Adams County - http://usgwarchives.net/pa/adams/
York County - http://usgwarchives.net/pa/york/

Re: Family's That Heard Lincoln at Gettysburg

ahutton — 2009-09-19 17:24:40Z

Do you mean the blacksmith shop of Isaac and John Leeper? My gggrandfather, James Henry Thompson, was apprenticed to that shop.

Amy Hutton

Re: CONRAD STULTZ THE MYSTERY MAN - OF MD AND PA

MidMdRoots — 2009-09-28 03:43:20Z

Yes, they are published transcriptions in the Maryland German Church Record series
Luanna b/ 11 Feb 1819
with Jacob and Catharina Otto as sponsors
in Mount Zion Luth/Ref Ch, near Keymar, MD
from MD German Ch Rec, Vol 16, pg 92

It is very possible that the handwriting was misread. I did think Luanna was an unusual name for that time period.

And Keymar is very close to the Adams County, PA border.
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www.MidMdRoots.com

Re: CONRAD STULTZ THE MYSTERY MAN - OF MD AND PA

MidMdRoots — 2009-09-26 00:10:04Z

History of Adams Co, PA, regarding their son Granville,
states Nicholas and Catharine came from Lancaster Co, PA.
Possibly there may be a baptismal record there for Conrad.

I found a daughter, Luanna b/ 11 Feb 1819
with Jacob and Catharina Otto as sponsors
in Mount Zion Luth/Ref Ch, near Keymar, MD
from MD German Ch Rec, Vol 16, pg 92

Possibly they came to MD between that time period???
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www.MidMdRoots.com

Duttera/Peters

v_stern — 2009-08-31 18:30:44Z

OK, now have it all the way back. I should have waited a little more to post. There was some confusion because of the myriad of different spellings of Duttera. Please email me at vrstern@earthlink.net and I can send you the whole thing.

Vanessa

John Duttera 1767-1836

v_stern — 2009-08-31 18:21:03Z

Just found more info. John Duttera was born ca 1767 and died 25 June 1836 in Menallen Township, Adams County.

Vanessa

Re: Peters Family

v_stern — 2009-08-31 18:10:41Z

Re: Peter Rice, 1794-c1871, Adams Co., PA

Sujiwan — 2009-08-29 19:05:03Z

Here's another possible interesting connection.
Ulrich Peter of Menallen (*may* be brother of Henry Peter re your Hartzell query) married Catharina Schlebach,

Of their children: Catherine Peter m. Christian Rice. Susanna Peter married Daniel Rice. Barbara Peter married John Rice.

Interesting. :-)

Re: Peter Rice, 1794-c1871, Adams Co., PA

sergevirge1 — 2009-08-30 03:16:59Z

Copied from my response to Sujiwan on the Peters board:

I have Jacob Peters (son of George Peters), born 1717 in Switzerland, emigrated to Philadelphia in 1732, died in Northampton Co., PA, in 1788. He married Elizabeth UNKNOWN abt 1759 and had two sons, John Ulrich Peters (1760-1842) and Henry (Heinrich) Peters (1764-1846).

John Ulrich Peters married Catarina Schlebach, and they had the following children:
Catharine (m. Christian Rice)
Susanna (m. Daniel Rice)
Barbara (m. John Rice)
Hannah (m. Peter Guise)
Heinrich/Henry (m. Nancy Mowery and Elizabeth Crum)
John (m. Susanna Group)
Maria (m. John Mowery)
Eve (m. Jacob Group)

Henry Peters married Lisabeth (you say Elisabeth Schnerr), and they had the following children:
Johannes (1787)
Maria Machtalena (1789)
Elisabeth (1791-1816) m. to Jacob Hartzell
Hanna (1792)
Henry (Heinrich)(1794)
Jacob (1796)
Maria (Polly)(1798)
Sara (1800)
Solomon (1802)
Julia (1803)
Daniel (1806)
Jacob (1807)

I also saw Sujiwan's post about my Peter Rice connection, and I too discovered the three Peters sisters married to the three Rice brothers.

There are also multiple connections between the Hartzells, the Rices, the Peterses, the Schlebachs, and other families.

Re: Peters Family

sergevirge1 — 2009-08-30 03:18:01Z

This is probably the family of your Solomon Peters (son of Henry Peters, below):

I have Jacob Peters (son of George Peters), born 1717 in Switzerland, emigrated to Philadelphia in 1732, died in Northampton Co., PA, in 1788. He married Elizabeth UNKNOWN about 1759 and had two sons, (1) John Ulrich Peters (1760-1842) and (2) Henry (Heinrich) Peters (1764-1846).

(1) John Ulrich Peters married Catarina Schlebach, and they had the following children:
Catharine (m. Christian Rice)
Susanna (m. Daniel Rice)
Barbara (m. John Rice)
Hannah (m. Peter Guise)
Heinrich/Henry (m. Nancy Mowery and Elizabeth Crum)
John (m. Susanna Group)
Maria (m. John Mowery)
Eve (m. Jacob Group)

(2) Henry Peters married Lisabeth Schnerr, and they had the following children:
Johannes (1787)
Maria Machtalena (1789)
Elisabeth (1791-1816) m. to Jacob Hartzell
Hanna (1792)
Henry (Heinrich)(1794)
Jacob (1796)
Maria (Polly)(1798)
Sara (1800)
Solomon (1802)
Julia (1803)
Daniel (1806)
Jacob (1807)

Hope this helps!

Virginia Youmans

Re: Peters Family

64546454 — 2009-08-30 03:17:41Z

Thank you so much! This info seems to match up with the other Peter/Peters that are buried in the same location as the Solomon Peters I am researching. I would say this is very likely the same line. Again, thanks!

Niki

Surname: Gregory/Gregery

64546454 — 2009-09-01 04:04:43Z

I am looking for information on the parents and/or siblings of Charlotte Gregory (b 1822 d 1904) and Catherine Gregory (b 1820 d.1894) of Adams County. Charlotte married Solomon Peters while Catherine never married. These sisters are buried at Christ Church Cemetery.

Thank you.

Re: Surname: Gregory/Gregery

64546454 — 2009-09-04 03:47:28Z

Thanks! Yes, I meant Miller. (I keep confusing him with another ggg grandfather in another line). Are the Gregory's in your line also? I seem to have hit a brick wall with Charlotte. One census indicates her parents were born in England but I'm not sure if this is accurate since the others say PA.

Re: heagy family

ljemmett — 2009-09-22 00:22:45Z

Do you know where Mary Heagy and Robert Horner are buried? I am looking for possible burial places for their daughter, Maria Love Horner Odell, who died in 1850. Thought maybe she is buried where her parents are.

Re: George HAMBURG, early 1800s

zapcomix — 2009-09-20 05:14:40Z

Hello,

Can you tell me if John Hewitt who married Elizabeth Bender own a mill north of Bendersville, Adams Co, Pa., and sold the mill to Jesse Cook in Nov. 1838?

Thanks,
Bob Cooke
Simi Valley, Ca.

Re: Family's That Heard Lincoln at Gettysburg

zapcomix — 2009-09-19 23:12:45Z

Do you know of the Tyson Brothers Photo Studio located at No. 5 York St., next door to David Wills house? The building today that has the cannonball stuck in the brick wall, that was the studio. Charles Tyson lived at 216 Chambersburg St. at the time of the battle.

Re: St. Aloysius Cemetery in Littlestown

WDavis2938 — 2009-09-06 06:56:40Z

My 4th Gr Grandfather, John PLATT (Rev War soldier) is burried in Hart's Sleeping Place, St Joseph's Mission Church, West Carrolton. He married Elizabeth Wysong, 1/2 sister of Ludvig Wysong. Winifred

Re: Family's That Heard Lincoln at Gettysburg

dculp151 — 2009-09-19 22:09:36Z

Jeremiah Culp operated a carpenter shop at 141 York Street, just east of the Lutheran church, during the Civil War, specializing in “Wallpaper, Paperhanging, Undertaking, Caskets & Coffins.” His carpenter shop was used as an operating room (the carpenter’s bench made a good operating table) during and after the battle of Gettysburg and frequently had a pile of arms and legs outside under the window. Sorry, not a blacksmithshop to my knowledge.

Re: Family's That Heard Lincoln at Gettysburg

dculp151 — 2009-09-24 17:21:43Z

Not that I know of.

Jeremiah (and later Rueben) operated a carpenter/undrtaking/wallpaper shop.

Don

Re: Family's That Heard Lincoln at Gettysburg

dculp151 — 2009-09-18 16:34:05Z

Just began researching and found your post. My Grandfather, Martin Luther Culp was a 16 year old Corporal in the Union Army(Warren's Independent Cavalry) and was with his father Jonas and 8 year old brother Rueben at the dedication.

Rueben later recalled meeting Lincoln afterwards and shaking his hand. Luther in later life High Constable of Gettysburg (1881-1882) moved to Escondido, Californbia and would recite the Gettysburg address at 4th of July celebrations.

Re: Family's That Heard Lincoln at Gettysburg

dculp151 — 2009-09-19 23:15:48Z

No, but again, I am new to this whole geneaology thing. I got fascinate because I discovered that my Grandfather (Martin L. Culp) and his brother Rueben were at the dedication with their father and actually heard Lincoln speak. Rueben (age 8) even metLincoln afterwards and shook his hand.
Don

Re: Family's That Heard Lincoln at Gettysburg

dculp151 — 2009-09-21 02:04:01Z

All I can say isthat I've seen no referenc to blacksmithing but then Jeremiah had 12 children, so who knows ...

I have photos of Luther Culp as sheriff of Escondido, but I've never found any photos of his Gettysburg life. ??
Don

CONRAD STULTZ THE MYSTERY MAN - OF MD AND PA

jacknovicki — 2009-09-25 22:15:51Z

We are seeking a positive link, proof, hint, or anything showing the possible relationship between Nicholas Stultz (b. 16 MAY 1785 PA/d. 16 JUL 1865 PA) m. Catharine Crumb (b. abt. 1789/d.25 SEP 1863) and their possible son Conrad W. Stultz (b. 26 MAR 1812 MD/d. 11 NOV 1894 PA) (m. -15 MAR 1842 Adams Co., PA) Matilda Leas (b. 18 OCT 1818 MD/d. 20 SEP 1885 PA).

All the information we have leads us to believe that Conrad is the son of Nicholas & Catharine. His age is OK. A child of his age is noted in the MD 1820 US Census of Nicholas's family.

He was one of the administrators of Nicholas's estate but no mention was made of their relationship. All the other children of Nicholas renounced their right of administration noting their relationship.

All other information indicates that Conrad was Nicholas and Catharine's first born son, but we have no conclusive proof.

Conrad was a "doer". He commanded in 1842 a troop of the local militia called the "Pennsylvania Rifleman", in Adams Co., Franklin Township, PA.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Jack and Peg Novicki

Re: CONRAD STULTZ THE MYSTERY MAN - OF MD AND PA

jacknovicki — 2009-09-26 03:14:56Z

Thanks so much for the info on Luanna. I have done quite a bit of work on Granville but for some reason never thought about a possibility of Conrad being born in Lancaster. I always thought he was born in MD. Conrad was born 26 March 1812 so the 7 year gap between he and Luanna could have been when his parents were in Lancaster. Well back to work...
Regards, Jack Novicki

Re: Seeking info on several family lines - Hostetter, Harner, Hankey, Smith, Hetrick, Zepp, Millar...

edmorrill33 — 2009-09-19 01:40:54Z

The only Menges in 1820 in York and Adams county are in York co. Jacob in Codorus, Jno in Paradise, Peter in W. Manchester and Peter in Dover. According to the Adams County newspaper Republican Compiler When John and Elizabeth were married by Rev. Mr. Ruthrauff she was from Straban Township. The only Menges in Straban in 1836 is Jacob Menges.I believe he is the Jacob that died 8 Feb 1837 in Menallen Twp probably in the home of one of his sons. This Jacob was 59 when he died making him born ca 1778 or about 20 when he married if He is Elizabeth's father.
Peter of West Manchester also seems to have adults of Jacob and Elizabeth's age in his home in the 1800 census if...
Fyi Leimbach is Leinbach, Linebach and Linebaugh at various times in York.FYI Ancestry.com has a family tree that says Elizabeth is the daughter of Jacob and Christina.

Re: Surname: Gregory/Gregery

edmorrill33 — 2009-09-04 02:34:59Z

I didn't find much but here is what I found Catherine b. June 18 1820 of Mt.Joy Twp when buried 28 May 1894 at Christ reformed Cem. in Union Twp.
Charlotte married Solomon Miller not Peters. See 1850 Mt Pleasant census where Catherine is in Solomon Miller's home with Charlotte as his wife. They married Aug 15, 1844 as recorded by the Sentinel newspaper.