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Re: VAN BORKUM

RBestrom7380 — 2013-05-18 03:21:09Z

The original poster posted eight total messages and hasn't posted since April 2001. But, she is the Director of the Gage County Historical Society.

Lesa, when you post it is important to provide basic criteria information, DOB, place of Birth, etc. In this case, I did find who you were seeking. However, there is no results when seeking this name for any shipwrecks. He may not have been Captain, or identified in any news article. The name of the ship is also important if there was any mention of that in the family lore.

The Bremen, Germany Sailors Registry, 1824-1917:
Albert Janssen Van Borkum, born in Emden 1839, residence in Emden, the collection: "des Bremer Wasserschouts, 1837-1873."
The record showed voyages from April 4, 1857 to Dec 10, 1861

Appears to be the Captain of the Rina:
http://books.google.com/books?id=yiYiAQAAIAAJ&q=%22Alber...

The California Voter Records, 1866-1898:
Albert Jansen Van Borkum, age 39, born in Germany, a Sailor, in First Ward of Alameda County, naturalized March 8, 1871 in Sheboygan County, WI. Registration date is April 12, but the year is not visible due to the fold of the book.

City Directories of Beatrice show:
Van Borkum, Wea (Widow of Albert), residing at 1201 Bell
Talitha, clerk C.E. Smith & Son, 1201 Bell
John E, with E.B. McGirr & Co, 520 S. 10th.

The Omaha Daily Bee, Nov 26, 1908:
Beatrice
Mina Rebekan Lodge No. 113, Independent Order of Odd Fellows, met last evening and elected these officers: Talitha Van Borkum, noble grand; ...

He is buried in the Beatrice Cemetery, Beatrice, Gage Co, Nebraska, plot 3
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=va...;
Wea Van Borkum, born April 3, 1842, died April 29, 1926, same cemetery/plot 3.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=va...;

A John Albert Van Borkum, born 29 Jan 1881 in Three Rivers, WIsconsin, married Frances Pauline Witulski on 6 Aug 1902 in Lincoln Nebraska. Died 20 Feb 1950 in Lincoln, Nebraska.

Re: VAN BORKUM

inselpfarrer — 2013-05-18 03:20:40Z

Do you have birthday etc.? Wife? Children?

The familybook of the Isle of Borkum, East Frisia, Northwest Germany at the border to the Netherlands
has some Albert van Borkum. But it is not to be seen, that he emigrated, only he left the isle.

Re: claude quinton died in 1964 in oregon ,where ?

kentasm — 2013-05-05 22:50:20Z

The "46 and OS" in the Oregon Death Index indicate that he died out of state. In fact the Washington state records show that he died in Vancouver, Clark county, Washington (likely at the Veterans' Hospital there, although that's speculation on my part). The Washington records also show that his residence was outside of Washington state.

Re: claude quinton died in 1964 in oregon ,where ?

mildredmerle — 2013-05-04 04:13:00Z

thank you,,,

Re: claude quinton died in 1964 in oregon ,where ?

Joyful — 2013-05-03 20:31:25Z

Oregon, Death Index, 1898-2008 about Claude Quinton
Name: Claude Quinton
Age: 70
Birth Date: abt 1894
Death Date: 8 Nov 1964
Death Place: 46
Certificate: OS

He's buried in Dallas, Polk, Oregon

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=QU...;

claude quinton died in 1964 in oregon ,where ?

mildredmerle — 2013-05-03 17:28:28Z

searching for his children,grandchildren for a picture of him and mother and stepdad if at all possible, his stepdad james m weaver is my kin,,can anyone help me
susanneoliver34@hotmail.com

claude quinton died in 1964 in oregon ,where ?

mildredmerle — 2013-05-03 17:28:09Z

searching for his children,grandchildren for a picture of him and mother and stepdad if at all possible, his stepdad james m weaver is my kin,,can anyone help me
susanneoliver34@hotmail.com

Re: Crenshaw Family

la_ohrn — 2013-04-27 02:51:04Z

My mothers Grandpa was John Henry Crenshaw whose mother was Melvina Gooch Crenshaw Wills. I have an orignal newspaper clipping from the Cottage Grove newspaper dated Sept12/1929 on Grandma Willis, a remarkable woman, basically an obit.

Re: Hans Jepsen

gustafsonshirley — 2013-04-23 20:44:15Z

Hi, My Grandfather was Hans Christian Jepson/Jepsen. We call ourselfs the lost Jepson. He had 12 children, ten growing into adulthood. He never give them anything on his family other the Denmark and Slevig, i think. We have just recieved the information and his marriage application, 1904 and his mother was M. Hansen her maiden name, Hans father was listed as Jepson. The name was spelled so wrong Gypson. We could be related. Shirley at jarbalo@gmail.com

Re: William Muir Brown

PatDales66 — 2013-04-14 13:54:01Z

Thanks for the reply.
His parents were William Brown, born in Kilwinning, Ayrshire, Scotland 1842 and Helen McRitchie, born in Dartford, Kent, England 1844.
They never left the UK.

Re: William Muir Brown

barbdale_1 — 2013-04-14 13:53:20Z

Do you know his parents names? That will help identify him in records.

Re: William Muir Brown

Joyful — 2013-04-13 16:47:26Z

Could you add a little information...

When did they immigrate to Canada?

What are the brother & sister's names?

Where were they in Canada?

Do you know when William actually went to the U.S.?

Re: William Muir Brown

PatDales66 — 2013-04-12 18:43:19Z

Have not been able to find immigration records. Best guess is between 1884 and 1901 as my grandfather shows up in the 1901 Canada Census.
My grandfather's name was Robert Alexander James Brown. The sister was Nellie Mysie McRitchie Brown. My grandfather stayed in Manitoba but the siblings went on to BC & then south. I have no confirmation of this but my uncle went to 'Uncle Billy' in Portland?? approx 1926 for training in accounting.
I tried to find William in the 1901, 1911 & 1921 US Census with no luck.

Re: KINZER of Crabtree, Linn Co., OR

sanarn123 — 2013-04-12 17:23:29Z

Thank you for your response in regards to the KINZER family help I am seeking. Unless you know the Albany library resources better than I do. They didn't really have much to offer on this prominent Linn County family who were donation land settlers in Crabtree. Sandy

Re: KINZER of Crabtree, Linn Co., OR

mackenzie2270 — 2013-04-11 17:30:33Z

You might try the Linn county board. I live in Albany but won't be home until next week. I will go to the library and see what I can find in there geneology department there.

Linda

William Muir Brown

PatDales66 — 2013-04-08 23:30:45Z

I am looking for my grandfather's brother William Muir Brown who was born in the UK in 1870, was in the Merchant Seamen's Orphanage from 1878-1884, then immigrated with his brother & sister to Canada. He did not stay in Canada but went south to Portland, Oregon where I know he was living in the 1920's.
I've been unable to find him on any U.S. census & would appreciate any help.

Re: NEED YOUR HELP IN FIND MATT HEWITT

MoolyZue1 — 2013-04-05 03:03:41Z

It is not appropriate to request and/or provide information on living persons.

Re: M (Murid?) H (Howell?) Myers

falsterden — 2013-04-03 19:17:40Z

He's called Howell in 1910 census, M. Howell in 1920 census, and Howell in Beatrice obit (posted previously).

His first/second name is spelled Murrid in Find a Grave memorials.

In 1935 (when he first goes AWOL in the records) his parents lived in Corvallis, Benton, Oregon.

1910 US Census
Lycoming County, Pennsylvania
Henry E Myers 30
Bertha S Myers 28
Howell M Myers 5 <----------------
Fredrick J Myers age 0
Mary J Lamberson 71
Margaret J Fisher 49

1940
Salem, Marion, Oregon
1467 Court Street
Henry E Myers 61 b abt 1879 Pennsylvania
Bertha S Myers 58 b abt 1882 Pennsylvania
Fred J Myers 30 son, divorced b abt 1910 Pennsylvania
Richard Myers 15 grandson b abt 1925 Oregon
Residence in 1935: Corvallis, Benton, Oregon
Three unrelated people, boarders, living with them.

Find a Grave memorial to Fred says Fred was born in 1910 (in California) and lived in Oregon in 1920 and had an older brother Murrid Howell Myers. Buried at Belcrest Memorial in Salem, Marion, Oregon.
LINK:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=My...;

See also Find a Grave memorial to Richard Edwin "Duke" Myers by same creator. The obituary found by barbdale_1 can correct the Find a Grave reference to Richard's mother. Richard also buried at Belcrest.

Find a Grave:
Henry E Myers
Birth: 1878 in Warrington, Bucks, Pennsylvania, USA
Death: 1962 in Salem, Marion, Oregon, USA
SPOUSE: Bertha Myers (1881-1969)maiden name unknown
Buried: Belcrest Memorial Park in Salem

It makes sense to seek Murrid Howell Myers at Belcrest Cemetery, at least to rule it out. Sometimes people are buried in a family plot even if they did not live in the area when they died. Have you been in contact with that cemetery? Not all burials are recorded on Find a Grave.

Re: Vada Glen Smith Kinman LaJoie Cravens

darla2011 — 2013-04-02 13:59:40Z

yes please
i emailed you.

Re: Vada Glen Smith Kinman LaJoie Cravens

barbdale_1 — 2013-04-02 03:55:27Z

If you want the actual certificates, email me at
widdis77777(at)hotmail.com and I will scan them in.

I feel your pain, looking for the smith and white families, my brick wall is Johnson - why couldn't they have picked a more unusual surname!

Re: Vada Glen Smith Kinman LaJoie Cravens

darla2011 — 2013-04-02 03:42:03Z

Thank you so much.
up till now we were just guessing, but this gives Kinman as informant confirms we are looking in the right direction.

Re: Vada Glen Smith Kinman LaJoie Cravens

barbdale_1 — 2013-04-01 23:14:58Z

This is what I found on their death certificates:

William Walter Smith
Date of Death - December 20, 1927
Residence Twp. 15, Mabel, Lane Oregon
Widowed Husband of Inga
Date of Birth January 18, 1873
Occupation - Laborer
Father - William W. Smith
Birthplace of father - Oregon
Maiden name of Mother (not given)
Informant - J.W. Kinman, Mabel Oregon
Cause of Death-apoplexy
Place of Burial - Mabel, Or.

Mrs. Elizabeth A. White
Residence - College Crest, Eugene, Oregon
Place of Death -1409 Oak St Eugene
Date of Death - April 11, 1935
Widow of Warren White
Birthplace - Ohio
Birthdate - July 15, 1853
No information given for parents names and birthplaces
Informant - Mrs. J.W. Kinman
Mabel Oregon
Place of Burial Mabel, Oregon
Cause of death - Terminal Hypostatic pneumonia, Ateriosclerotic heart disease.

This is the closest I can find for him in 1880, not everything matches, so not sure if it is him
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MNC2-LGT

Re: Vada Glen Smith Kinman LaJoie Cravens

barbdale_1 — 2013-04-01 03:37:12Z

I am going to the state archives tomorrow. I can't get Vada's death record from there, it is too recent, but I will look for her father's and grandmothers. That should give you some clues.

Vada Glen Smith Kinman LaJoie Cravens

raven21971 — 2013-03-31 18:22:11Z

Elizabeth (?)
b.1853 (?)
d.1935 Oregon,
Buried in Upper Mabel Cemetery

m.(?)Smith
Son: William Walter Smith
b.1976
d.1927 Oregon,
Buried in Upper Mabel Cemetery
M. (?)
Daughter: Vada Glen Smith
b.1900 Washington
d.1974 Oregon
Buried Upper Mabel Cemetery

m.Warren White

From living relitives William W Smith was Vada's father and Elizabeth was her grandmother.
Elizabeth and William have matching headstones so I am assuming they are mother/son.

I have Vada living with William W in Idaho in 1910
m James Kinman in 1918
with James Kinman in Oregon in 1920
with James Kinman in Oregon in 1925
With James Kinman in Oregon in 1940
m. Henry Edward LaJoie in 1948
m. Clarence Cravens in 1958
d. 1974 in Junction City, Oregon

This is my brick wall. Any help with this family would be greatly appreciated.

NEED YOUR HELP IN FIND MATT HEWITT

Goins50 — 2013-03-24 14:49:49Z

Please, we are seeking help in locating Matt Hewitt in Oregon, possibly in Dallas, Nyssa area, please if you know him please tell him to contact his dad in TEXAS, call collect send email, or on FB. You can also post to this message and I will relay the info to them. PLEASE... his dad is concerned about him and wants to talk to him.

Re: MacIntosh from Nova Scotia to Oregon

jrdksmci — 2013-03-19 02:35:52Z

Our testing is with FTDNA, which has a large database and offers very good support through a multitude of 'projects'. I will follow up your suggestions. Cheers

Re: MacIntosh from Nova Scotia to Oregon

oastwd — 2013-03-19 02:35:25Z

I attended a meeting with the subject, "I've Had My DNA Tested - Now What?" as a guest. The speaker was great and she had a handout that can be found on line here:

http://www.jgsws.org/meetings.php

Click on Download Handout found under the title of the meeting.

She did comment that FamilyTree DNA has the largest database and was started for one purpose only - DNA testing. She lists some good books as well as internet resources.

I would also suggest you post on the Mc/MacIntosh board/s. You might find more individuals interested in participating. The more samples you have the better.

If you have not already done do I would post on these boards also:

http://genforum.genealogy.com/mcintosh/

http://genforum.genealogy.com/macintosh/

and this forum, which does draw researchers. Believe it or not I have had good luck with researchers on this forum:

http://www.findagraveforums.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&...

Re: MacIntosh from Nova Scotia to Oregon

JohnMcIntosh32 — 2013-03-19 02:34:49Z

It is a yDNA study. As there were only about a dozen MacIntosh (any spelling) families in Glenurquhart in the 1700s it is not a big job to track down a descendent of each family, theortically. However, the Nova Scotian immigrants are proving difficult. Thank you for your help. You have tied up thsi loose end. Regards John Mc

Re: MacIntosh from Nova Scotia to Oregon

oastwd — 2013-03-19 02:34:15Z

If you are interested in descendants you might want to post on the Spokane County, Washington Board for descendants of Katherine Mac/McIntosh Fraser. Unless, of course, you are seeking direct male descendants only.

Re: MacIntosh from Nova Scotia to Oregon

JohnMcIntosh32 — 2013-03-19 02:33:18Z

OK, that probably is the right family then. Thanks for being persistent and thanks for Duncan's obituary. It seems he had no direct family to survive him which is the information I was seeking.

Re: MacIntosh from Nova Scotia to Oregon

oastwd — 2013-03-19 02:32:20Z

While Katherine and Duncan were born in Massachusetts they are found on the 1911 Nova Scotia Census.

Duncan also joined the Canadian military during WWI. He gave his address as Garden of Eden Pictou Co NS. He registered with the U.S. Consulate as a U.S. Citizen in 1918 again giving the Garden of Eden address and resided there from 1910 to the present date of July 31, 1918.

His father, William Mac/McIntosh was a Canadian citizen and his mother was born in Massachusetts.

It was not unusual to have families go back and forth across the border - living for a while in the U.S. and then Canada. The rules weren't as strict as they are today, but Duncan did register with the Consulate so there would be evidence of his U.S. Citizenship and claimed the NS address was temporary!

Re: MacIntosh from Nova Scotia to Oregon

JohnMcIntosh32 — 2013-03-19 02:31:19Z

Thank you for the information. I dont think it is the family. Duncan's sister was supposedly Dorothy and he and his sister were most likely born in Nova Scotia. I appreciate your assistance. John Mc

Re: MacIntosh from Nova Scotia to Oregon

oastwd — 2013-03-17 22:11:01Z

There is a Duncan MacIntosh born Oct 23 1896; died Aug 16 1980 Washington County, Oregon. I have attached his obituary.

His WWII Draft Registration Card states he was born in Wakefield, Mass. and resides in Spokane, Washington.

However, the section "Name and Address of the person who will always know your address" contains:
Mrs. Alex Fraser
2203 E 3rd

On the 1940 US Census Alex Fraser was born about 1887 in Canada and his wife, Katherine, was born about 1901 in Massachusetts. They have a daughter, Dorothy, born about 1924 in Washington and a son, John, born about 1928 in Washington. Duncan MacIntosh is listed as brother-in-law, born about 1899 in Massachusetts.

Katherine's death record lists her father as William McIntosh and her mother as Mary Frances Daherty.

Do you think these might be the individuals you seek?

Re: carter family

bludrums56 — 2013-03-06 19:45:40Z

Ransom Carter was my grandfathers brother.Robert Carter also had another brother Reason Carter. My mother was Roberts oldest child , Patricia Carter.

male any variation of Meyer [s] had two brothers in Iowa

jomeyer13 — 2013-02-28 11:37:21Z

obit of wiliam Meyr/Meyer stated there was a brother in Oregon.....
Jurgen Heinrich Frederick Meyer came about 1869 settled in Tete des Morts, Jackson county, Iowa. Perhaps his brother with unknown name came then. Fred moved to Churdan area of iowa and married by 1882 to Mary Schenk.
Juergen Heinrich Wilhelm Meyer came 1884 to Lohrville, Iowa. After four years he moved to Reading,township in Calhoun county area. One village often refered to was Farnhamville. It is his orbit in 1929 that said he had two sisters and one brother in germany. It also said he had one brother in Oregon. Sisters married names are Margret Stille, Doris or Dora Koenig, Schmobel [ shipping busines] Mary Fehring. a couple other sisters..??.
Maternal names Luhmann, Heins, Behens,Schenk, Rickens,Michels, Michaels,Ahrens. Home regions in germany are Oldendorf/Nahrendorf by 'Rothen' and Radenbeck. Williams wife Heins came from Begen area of Celle.
My grandfather was Herman Meyer and his brother William moved to Minnesota in early 1910.
I would appreciate any leads.
thanks

Re: Henry MEYER born c1844 Oldenburg, 1880 Jackson County IA

jomeyer13 — 2013-02-28 11:36:09Z

I wondered if I replied.J. H. Fritz Fred, Frederick Mier, Miyer,Mayer,Meyer born December 1851 at Oldendorf, church Nahrendorf oldendorf an der goehrde. He said he was from Bleckede. wife- Narie Dora Schenk mother Sophie Rickens.In 1868 Fred received letter written to his parents saying he should come to america as galena wonderful. Blacksmiths, Schmiedes. Written by mrie Moelleman. the next letter was from Marie Ahrens saying he should come, her husband wants him to come and she mentions how much etc. I believe it is his sisters who are also asked to come Galena, Jo Daviess illn.[ I HAVE NOT FOUND THEM ON CENSUS]
FrRed or fritz has permission or does leave april 28, 1969. hamburg list... Not sure when he arrived to new york not sure who was on ship. But he did not stay long at jo Daviess county, Illnois. He was at Tete des morts, jackson county 1870 and 1880. Names varry and he was in the same area as future- in- laws schenk and ricken[s]. A Michel near also. Schroder could be family as well.
William also went to Iowa. Fred was suppose to help him. Perhaps that is why fred married in 1882. He moved to churdan highland greene county.
William went to Lohrville first four years and then to reading calhoun county. dawson area famiy nahnson/meyer.William left feb. and arrived to usa april 6th or 8, 1884 on Frisia ship. They were at Eichdorf and later Oldendorf an der goehrde.... and bleckede. His real mothers family was Luhmann some of these from Kleinbur or dorf went to calhoun county also. They were closer to Farnhamville than the others. They attended st peters church there.
Fred died in train and railroad tracks and their car in 1918 on way to michigan and traveled through Lombard or Lemont illnois.
His wife had died before that.

Now I wonder about the brother in oregon... Had he come to america to escape military. Did he already have it. Was he in agreement with Fred too. I don't think he made the same agreement. He may have been a result of his new mother. Or maybe they did not get a new mother. But Fred was young when his mother died. the others were older.

They did get a stepmother Catharine Dorothea Ahrens from Mucklingen--- of the Hermann Molleman or Holman family in 1870 censes at Jackson county Iowa. Mary was related to Freds new wife. And they relate to Schenk, Rickens, Michels
so much more. Anyway sons from that marriage was Adolph Heinrich Friedrich born 8.Jun.1864 at Roethen which is by Oldendorf in der Goehrde. and other son born April 1867 named Hermann Rudolph Friedrich Meyer

Re: Brading

falsterden — 2013-02-25 19:23:40Z

This is a living person. I suggest you move your post to the "Lost Friends and Family" board and take care not to post identifying information (which would be against community guidelines).

Re: Hiram A. Moore died Nov. 18,1935 Salem, Oregon

historicallydebs — 2013-02-25 01:55:10Z

Chris,

I am researching the More/Moore family for my husband. Here is what I have found so far: Jeremiah and Mary L. Zornes Moore>Martin and 2nd wife, Emily F. Hogg Moore>Mary Jane Moore.

I have just recently discovered from another researcher about Martin's older brother Hiram. Do you have any information about Hiram's brothers John W., Philip, Martin, Jeremiah and sister Martha? I have them on the 1850 Clayton Co., Iowa Census, 1856 Iowa State Census for Madison Co., for 1860 I found Jeremiah, Mary, Philip, Martin and his family still in Madison Co., Iowa. Haven't located brother's John & Jeremiah for the 1860 census. By 1870 Jeremiah, Mary, John W. and Philip are in Clackamas Co., Oregon. Martin and family are still in Madison Co., Iowa. I found brother Jeremiah in 1870 in Yakima Co., Washington. I still have not discovered what became of Martin Moore, by 1880 Emily Frances is married to John Mills Hole.

We live here in Oregon, but did not have any knowledge of Jeremiah and Mary until I started doing this research. I have shared my findings with other family members and no one knew of their ancestors being early Oregon Pioneers. Martin's daughter Mary Jane Moore Hole left Iowa about 1904 and went to northeastern Oregon and ended up in the Columbia County area of Washington. She left her children in Iowa, three of them later ended up in the Dayton and Walla Walla, Washington area also. Flossie and her husband came out to Montana from Iowa in 1935 and lived out their lives there. It is actually kind of interesting that several generations later Jeremiah and Mary's G.G.G.Grandson would live only 2 hours from their resting place.

We went to Clackamas County this last week hoping to find some information about Jeremiah, Mary, John, Philip and Jeremiah, but the trip was some what disappointing. We visited the Genealogy society at the Museum of the Oregon Territory and the person that assisted did not find the family in any of the cemetery indexes that she looked at...I did get a copy of an index listing for Philips Probate, it did say that H. Moore of Ashland, KY and R.J. Moore of Dillon, MT were his heirs. I am going to make a trip to the state archives to get the probate records in the next month. I also went to a library in Oregon City and found 3 newspaper articles about Philips passing, one mentions that he was buried next to his father and mother, but no mention of which cemetery!

I would be interested in corresponding with you off the message board. I think I mailed you previously, but possibly I didn't have enough information to show you a connection. Message me through my profile.

Debbie

Re: Braun, Steinmueller, Foster relatives

barbdale_1 — 2013-02-24 05:19:20Z

I made a big mistake, the actual date of the notice on their license was in the Oregonian, April 26, 1916. For some reason, the edit button is not showing up so I can not correct my previous post.

Re: Braun, Steinmueller, Foster relatives

barbdale_1 — 2013-02-24 04:49:16Z

I looked at the Washington digital archives, but couldn't find their actual marriage license there. I searched on just first names, just one last name, etc. but no luck
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov
They took their license out in Vancouver, Clark County Washington. It was common for people in Portland to marry there, I think because of a shorter waiting period.

Braun, Steinmueller, Foster Relatives

simifamily44 — 2013-02-24 04:30:15Z

Looking for lost family connected with Steinmueller, Foster, or Braun from Wisconsin. Ethel Dolly Steinmueller was living in Oregon with a cousin. Herbert Foster may have moved to Oregon from Washington where he lived when he was in the navy and as a firmen in Kent, King Washington.

Re: Braun, Steinmueller, Foster relatives

simifamily44 — 2013-02-24 04:29:38Z

I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS INFORMATION FOR OVER 45 YEARS. HERBERT AND ETHEL ARE MY GRANDPARENTS AND DOLORES IS MY MOTHER. I WAS GETTING NO WHERE LOOKING FOR THE MARRIAGE OF MY GRANDPARENTS AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU JUST GAVE ME THE LEAD I NEED. THANK YOU,
SHARRON

Re: Braun, Steinmueller, Foster relatives

barbdale_1 — 2013-02-20 22:43:40Z

There was an Vancouver marriage license notice in the Oregonian, April 16, 1930 for Herbert A. Foster,age 30, and Ethel Steinmuller, 23, both of Porland. I didn't find their license in the Washington digital archives.
In the 1920 census, there is a Herbert A. Foster, age 34, born South Dakota, Ethel his wife, and Dolores, age 3 1/2, all living in Milwaukee Wisconsin. They are living next to the family of Charles Steinmuller.

Re: Pearl Maybell Dean

snm5544720 — 2013-02-19 03:26:32Z

Absolutely if wished for that before, it would make it so much easier, since it would be coming straight from the source.

Re: Pearl Maybell Dean

barbdale_1 — 2013-02-19 02:52:32Z

I think that Pearl's Mother was definitely Ella Mullins Hargis Thompkins. It is hard to know at this point if Ella married a Thompkins after Elisha died. I wonder if Pearl married a Young first, or if that was some kind of Middle name? Don't you wish we could go back and ask these people what was up?!

Re: Pearl Maybell Dean

snm5544720 — 2013-02-19 02:21:20Z

Im confused as one bible entry says that Pearls mother is Ella Mullin and the other says Ella Thompkins. I don't know if she was remarried after Elisha passed away.

In 1900 census under "Special Inquiries relating to Indians"
It shows Ella as a mixed blood, being 1/8 cherokee.

There was another entry in the bible for Pearl which makes everything more confusing, at least for me. It shows her name as Pearl Young Thompkins.

Re: Pearl Maybell Dean

barbdale_1 — 2013-02-19 01:50:47Z

Thank you for the scans - that helps. Now, this is interesting - I found some information that Elisha's middle name was Tompkins. Google "Elisha Tompkins Hargis" and you will find some earlier messages from people. However, there is no real documentation, and someone claims he had two children from his first marriage to Nancy Walker. In his application for the Indian Rolls (he was denied, as was Ella and their children) he said he was only with Nancy for a few months, then divorced about a year later. Anyway, if Elisha died in November of 1903, and Pearl was born in April, she certainly could be his child.

Re: Pearl Maybell Dean

snm5544720 — 2013-02-19 00:52:29Z

Ella Thompkins I assume was the mother of Pearl and from my research I believe pearl's father was Elisha Hargis. Who died the year pearl was born. I dont ever see pearls name in the census which makes me question that. Elisha's first wife was a Nancy Jane Walker of the Cherokee nation.

I have attached a photo of the bible entries.

Re: Pearl Maybell Dean

snm5544720 — 2013-02-19 00:42:34Z

Floyd was married to three women within his lifetime,
The first being, Eva Maude Hall,

The second was, Pearl Maybell (unknown maiden name)
I have an estimate as too when and where they were married. The facts came out of a bible but it was scribbled in so it was hard to make out::

March 20, 1930
Marriage of Floyd to Pearl Dean
Sweetwater, TX, USA

and his last wife was, Lilly Mae (unknown maiden name)

Re: Pearl Maybell Dean

barbdale_1 — 2013-02-19 00:12:16Z

It helps if you post what you already know - I found more information from findagrave, which was really helpful. Even if you just post a link to your entry there, that would help.
This looks like Pearl in 1910, based on what you have at findagrave.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M237-ZQP

Simon Peter Hargis is in the California death index, and it says his Mother's maiden name was Mullins
http://vitals.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ca/death/search.cgi

This looks like Ella Thompkins death in Texas in 1922. You have to register for the site to see the actual image, but it is free.
Ella Thompkins
Birth April 17
Death Place - Elmdale, Taylor County Texas
Date of Death - August 13, 1922
Birthplace - Illinois
Father ?Can't read first name, last name Mullins
Mother - can't read for sure
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11125-191228-14...

It is faded and hard to read, I will try to find more information for you.