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Re: OK death search - Lance and Marie Wikstom

thegenhelper — 2013-05-18 15:10:50Z

Also possible location of Cecil Wikstrom on 1940 Census in Okfuskee Co. Oklahoma in household of uncle. She is listed as widow. Also there is a Mary Jeanne Wikstrom age 9 in household.
Hope this helps.
thegenhelper

Re: OK death search - Lance and Marie Wikstom

thegenhelper — 2013-05-18 15:01:52Z

Checked marriage records in Oklahoma and found a Lance Wikstrom marrying Cecil M. Cunnigham (suspect this is probably a typo and could be Cunningham) filing marriage license Feb. 22, 1928 in Creek County, Oklahoma. This could be your guy.
thegenhelper

Re: OK death search - Lance and Marie Wikstom

blondie4091 — 2013-05-11 19:02:22Z

Thanks for your help. Unfortunately, they are too far removed to from my family tree to spend that kind of money on a hunch but, I'll keep it in mind if I get desperate!

thanks again,
Bonnie

Re: OBIT - BULLER, MALINDA V. KOEHN, 87

ms_tl1961 — 2013-05-11 15:49:53Z

I am searching for my sons birth father Paul Buller of Enid OK. My son was given up for adoption at 6 mo of age in 1985 Enid OK. please respond if you know this Paul.thank you Tammy

Re: OK death search - Lance and Marie Wikstom

knort4 — 2013-05-10 19:40:12Z

5-10-2013

Unfortunately there are no public databases of Oklahoma deaths that I know of where you could do a search of the Wikstrom name to see if the people you were specifically interested in were dead. If you wanted to submit a claim for a death form to the Oklahoma Department of Health, for $15.00 per name you could request each of their death certificates, if you are related to them. knort4 Researcher

Lula Mae Smith

FarrisMason — 2013-04-30 18:53:14Z

I'm looking for the relatives of Lula Mae Smith. She lived and died in Oklahoma. She had a daughter born in 1934 Emma Lou Long who later changed her name to Virginia Louise Mason. She was married to a Jim Smith. I do not know my great grandmothers maiden name but I do have a picture of her parents. I do not know there name. If any of this sounds like it matches your family please contact me. The person with the Pink panther is Lula Mae. The black and white photos are her parents...any information would be helpful.

Re: OK death search - Lance and Marie Wikstom

blondie4091 — 2013-04-18 04:49:15Z

Yep.....and have all that info too. Sorry you went to all the trouble.
Lance's gr-mother was a cousin to my gr-gran-mother & I was hoping to find living relatives but, in my travels down the ancestral tree, I lost Lance & his wf. & am just dying to know what happened to them!!

I know Eloise wound up in CA as did her gran-father Elmer Lane(d. 1961) but, it's the years bet. 1922 & 1930 that have me baffled...AND what happened to Elmer's wife Leona Lane?? And, how did Eloise go from marrying Albert Moore in 1934 to being Mrs.Herbert Welsh living in LosAngeles 1940!!
And if my research is correct, Eloise may have married several more times & was last known as Eloise Jakubiec of Las Vegas May 23,1995.
And the beat goes on... :)

btw..thank you

Re: OK death search - Lance and Marie Wikstom

11944 — 2013-04-18 02:25:22Z

WEST VIRGINIA MARRIAGES
Name: Lance Eric Wikstrom
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Hannah Marie Lane
Spouse Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 1916
Marriage Place: Wood, West Virginia, United States

WW1 DRAFT CARD
Name: Lance Eric Wikstrom
County: Nowata
State: Oklahoma
Birthplace: Illinois,United States of America
Birth Date: 1 Nov 1894
Race: Caucasian (White)
BORN CHICAGO, ILL 1917

1920 CENSUS
Name: Lance Wikstrom
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1894
Birthplace: Illinois
Home in 1920: Dewey, Washington, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Marie Wikstrom
Father's Birthplace: Sweden
Mother's Birthplace: England
Home owned: Rent
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Lance Wikstrom 26
Marie Wikstrom 22/1898
Eloise Wikstrom 2/1918
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US CITY DIRECTORY
Name: Lance E Wikstrom
Gender: M (Male)
Residence Year: 1922
Street Address: 1611 Pearl av
Residence Place: Joplin, Missouri
Occupation: Mgr
Spouse: Marie H Wikstrom
Publication Title: Joplin, Missouri, City Directory, 1922
Mgr E Lane & Son
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1930 census
Name: Eloise Wikstrom
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1918
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Race: White
Home in 1930: Joplin, Jasper, Missouri
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Granddaughter
Father's Birthplace: Illinois
Mother's Birthplace: Ohio
Household Members:
Name Age
Elmer E Lane 58
Leona W Lane 54
Eloise Wikstrom 12

FamilySearch.org
Lance E Wikstrom in entry for Albert James Moore and Eloise Wikstrom, "California, County Marriages, 1850-1952"

Name: Albert James Moore
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Jun 1934
Event Place: Los Angeles, California, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 19
Birth Year (Estimated): 1915
Father's Name: Arthur L Moore
Mother's Name: H Bailey
Spouse's Name: Eloise Wikstrom born OK
Spouse's Age: 46 wrong her age is 16
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1888 ?
Spouse's Father's Name: Lance E Wikstrom
Spouse's Mother's Name: M Lane
Page: 106
GS Film number: 2113651
Digital Folder Number: 005698555
Image Number: 01236
Citing this Record
"California, County Marriages, 1850-1952," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K8JX-2SC : accessed 07 Apr 2013), Lance E Wikstrom in entry for Albert James Moore and Eloise Wikstrom, 1934.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-29946-2202-40?...
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-29946-2017-11?...
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Were you able to find his parents?

Re: Possible Skinner relatives

bluepolkadotchild5 — 2013-04-16 04:27:37Z

Thank you soo very much!! You have led me to my father's parents, and his possible grandparents. You have given me some very promising leads and I very much appreciate you information. Thanks again!

Re: Possible Skinner relatives

gingermccall — 2013-04-15 17:57:28Z

You did not list about when or where your father was born.

I am not kin, but merely passing on possible leads. I can not confirm if these are your relatives.

Allen A Skinner & Maude Agnes (Baker) Montgomery

1900 > TEXAS > HENDERSON > 1 J-PCT
Head K E Skinner M 32 Louisana
Wife Amanda Skinner F 28 Missouri
Daughter Willie Skinner F 12 Texas
Son Allen Skinner M 10 Texas
Daughter Annie Skinner F 7 Texas
Son Rufus Skinner M 5 Texas
Daughter Lessie Skinner F 4 Texas
Daughter Eva Skinner F 1 Texas
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M3GP-MT1

K E Skinner
Burial: Oakwood Cemetery
Comanche, Comanche County, Texas
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=sk...;

1910 > TEXAS > COMANCHE > 7 J-PCT
SELF Amanda Skinner F 38y United States (widow)
DAU Willie Skinner F 21y Texas
SON Allen Skinner M 20y Texas
DAU Annie Skinner F 17y Texas
SON Rufus Skinner M 15y Texas
DAU Lessie Skinner F 13y Texas
DAU Eva Skinner F 11y Texas
DAU Maggie Skinner F 8y Texas
DAU Delia Skinner F 6y Texas
DAU Lela Skinner F 3y Texas
SON Harry Skinner M 2y Texas
SON Eddie Skinner M 0y 2m Texas
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MK1R-RN1

1920 > OKLAHOMA > COMANCHE > BROWN
SELF Allen A Skinner M 28y Texas
WIFE Winnie Skinner F 26y Texas
SON Alva Skinner M 8y Texas
DAU Mozell Skinner F 2y8m Oklahoma
(Amanda appears to be living in Richard township.)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MJ9H-T57

Winnie Skinner (1893-1924)
Burial: Fletcher Cemetery
Fletcher, Comanche County, Oklahoma
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=sk...;

Name: Allen A Skinner
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Aug 1925
Event Place (Formatted): Comanche, Oklahoma, United States
Age: 35
Birth Year (Estimated): 1890
Spouse's Name: Maud Montgomery
Spouse's Titles and Terms: Mrs
Spouse's Age: 28
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1897
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159394-434604-2?c...

Census > 1930 > Richards, Comanche, Oklahoma
Head Allen A Skinner M 40 Texas
Wife Maud A Skinner F 31 Oklahoma
Daughter Mozelle B Skinner F 13 Oklahoma
Stepson Robert M Mongomy M 11 Oklahoma
Stepson Jack M Mongomy M 10 Oklahoma
Son Leynoldberg Skinner M 3 Oklahoma
Daughter Moryan Skinner F 1 Oklahoma
Daughter Nola B Shilling F 23 Oklahoma
Daughter Wilma L Preston F 21 Texas
Lodger John Baker M 19 Oklahoma
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XC7C-QWK

Census > 1940 > Richards Township, Comanche, Oklahoma
Head Allen A Skinner M 50 Texas
Wife Maude A Skinner F 43 Oklahoma
Son Lindy Skinner M 13 Oklahoma
Daughter Mary A Skinner F 11 Oklahoma
Son Elmer G Skinner M 9 Oklahoma
Son Paul B Skinner M 7 Oklahoma
Daughter Sallie R Skinner F 4 Oklahoma
Son Dick D Skinner M 3 Oklahoma
Son John C Skinner M 2 Oklahoma
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VBJP-65D

Name: Lindy Skinner
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 26 Jun 1954
Event Place: Los Angeles, California, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Birth Year (Estimated): 1927
Father's Name: Allen A Skinner
Mother's Name: Maude Agnes Baker
Spouse's Name: Patricia Rosemary Carroll
Spouse's Age: 35
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1919
Spouse's Father's Name: John Mckeon
Spouse's Mother's Name: Nell Brooke
Page: 247
GS Film number: 1343371
Digital Folder Number: 005686342
Image Number: 03322
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/K866-JVB

Name: Allen Skinner
Event Type: Draft Registration
Event Date: 1917-1918
Event Place: Caddo County no 1, Oklahoma, United States
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 11 Mar 1890
Birthplace: Rockwall, Texas, United States
Nationality: United States
Affiliate Publication Title: World War I Selective Service System Draft Registration Cards
Affiliate Publication Number: M1509
GS Film number: 1851609
Digital Folder Number: 005152249
Image Number: 03722
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KZD2-3XG

Amanda Jane Skinner (1870-1959)
Burial: Fletcher Cemetery
Fletcher, Comanche County, Oklahoma
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=sk...;

Allen Skinner (1890-1974)
Burial: Fletcher Cemetery
Fletcher, Comanche County, Oklahoma
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=sk...;

Maude A Skinner (1898-1972)
Burial: Sunset Memorial Gardens
Lawton, Comanche County, Oklahoma
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=sk...;

Name: J M Montgomery
Titles and Terms: Mr
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 04 Sep 1917
Event Place (Formatted): Comanche, Oklahoma, United States
Age: 20
Birth Year (Estimated): 1897
Father's Name: Sam Montgomery
Spouse's Name: Maud Baker
Spouse's Titles and Terms: Miss
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1897
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159394-452310-13?...

1920 > OKLAHOMA > CADDO > 1-WD; ABILENE
SELF Joe Montgomery M 23y Oklahoma
WIFE Maude Montgomery F 23y Oklahoma
SON Robt Montgomery M 1y2m Oklahoma
SON Jack Montgomery M 7m Oklahoma
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MJM3-DFH

Skinner relatives

bluepolkadotchild5 — 2013-04-15 01:41:51Z

Hello,
I am looking for my father's, Marcus Laverial Skinner, grandparents. I know that his Mother's name was Maude A --(I don't know her maiden name?) and his father's name is Allen A. Skinner. I am looking for the last name of his mother, and her parents. As well as the parents of his father. If you know any information please let me know!
Thank you!

OK death search - Lance and Marie Wikstom

blondie4091 — 2013-04-06 16:08:16Z

I have two family members who disappear after 1922.
Lance E. Wikstom has a WW1 Draft card filed in Nowata county June 1917. Him & his wf. Marie & dau. Eloise are in Dewey,Washington county on 1920 census record.
The family is on City directory (Joplin, MO)1922.
I found two newspaper article about family 1922 Joplin,MO.
Eloise is w/gr-parents in 1930 Joplin,MO. Lance & Marie are nowhere to be found & neither one is listed on any MO Death records.
My last straw is to possibly locate their death records on OK!
I would appreciate any help or suggestions with this.
thanks in advance,
Bonnie

Re: OK birth records online

jesluhl — 2013-03-12 10:52:50Z

I appreciate all the responses. I already had birth dates, but I was looking for actual on-line birth records so that I did not have to order the birth certs from Oklahoma state Health at $15 each (that's pretty expensive). But I have ordered my mother's birth cert. Thank you all for helping.

Re: OK birth records online

falsterden — 2013-03-12 10:52:39Z

Most (maybe all?) of these birth dates have been found.

Re: OILDALE, OK

okiemarti — 2013-03-03 23:22:03Z

Where did you find the family living for the 1900 census? What is the husbands name.

Re: OK birth records online

gingermccall — 2013-03-01 21:15:31Z

Oklahoma did not become a state until 1907. Oklahoma began filing birth records in October of 1908. It was not mandatory, however, that these records be filed until 1917. Because birth records were not required in years past as they are today for identification, the filing process in many years prior to 1940 are sketchy. Since many individuals are still living that were born in the 1920's & 1930's, it protects their identity from theft by not posting these on online.

http://www.ok.gov/health/Birth_and_Death_Certificates/Birth_...

OK birth records online

jesluhl — 2013-02-26 18:56:00Z

why does it seem that Oklahoma birth records are not readily available on-line? It appears that not much is available from Oklahoma unless kind genealogy people have posted it. Looking for birth records on Jay Jesse Howell, Ott Ottis Howell, Eula Fay Howell, Nadine Howell, and Bonnie Howell. Parents were Willie and Bertie (Corbin) Howell.

Sunset Grade School - 1949-1950 - Oklahoma

rum2001 — 2013-02-23 05:07:18Z

Has anyone ever heard of and know where a "Sunset grade" School in the school year 1949-1950 would have been located in Oklahoma?

I am attempting to identify an old family photo of a young child. The photo is from Sunset Grade School 1949-1950 and the child is listed on the back as Dan/Dane Wilbur(?). I am hoping that by finding the possible school I can then find his link to my family.

Thank you.

Clarence Monroe Williams - KKK in OK

patty48132 — 2013-02-18 13:28:07Z

I am looking for information pertaining to my Great Uncle Clarence Monroe Williams who was born August 24, 1897 in Ennix, TX.

There is a story in my family that Uncle Clarence was quite the character and was a, as my Uncle puts it, "a card carrying member of the Klu Klux Klan".

I have been told that Uncle Clarence played a role in the Tulsa Race Riots and was very active within the Klan.

I have searched online and can not really find anything other then just a brief history of the Klan in Oklahoma.

I was wondering if anyone knew of any resources that might hold information that can prove or disprove all the stories I have been told.

I know its a touchy subject but me and my Uncle Jim are curious as to if any of them are true or not.

Re: Western State Hospital Cemetery - Ft Supply, OK

gingermccall — 2012-12-17 20:56:57Z

There are additional links at this website.

http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ok/county/woodward/western.html

Re: Mental Hospitals (1920+)In NW Oklahoma

doltan1 — 2012-12-15 00:42:29Z

There is a mental hospital in Fort Supply now a prison W.S.Key Correctional Center (WSKCC). The last name of it that I know of is/was Northwest Community Behavioral Hospital. NCBH is on the water tower. The now Chapel use to be used for the electro shock area on the second floor. Was a hospital from 1920-1989

Re: PENCE, SHACKLEY

wahldg — 2012-10-28 19:30:10Z

I don't know much about your grandfater, but I knew your father while I was stationed in Alaska. Your mom taught me a little about photography.

PENCE

2012-10-28 19:29:54Z

Hi, My Grandpa told me once he was born in Moose Head OK. But I can't find that there ever was such a place. Have you ever heard of it? (Pence, about 1910)
Thanks

Re: PENCE, SHACKLEY

2012-10-28 19:29:31Z

Hi My name is Penny Shackley (Pence).. I am tring to find information about my father's family. I was born Penelope Ann Pence. My father was Audie L. Pence, Mother Carole Pence (Thomas). My father had/has a brother, Claude, Fathers name is also Claude, Mothers name was Sarah Pence. (don't know the maiden name). My grandparents where devoriced and my grandfather remarried Ina Dahl. Who has two children Susan and Dale. I don't know what year they where married. My Uncle Claude had/has two children. Dannette and Kerry. My father died in Fairbanks Alaska in 1984. My mother lives in Alaska. Other then that I have little or no information. If any of these names ring a bell with you could you let me know. Thank you very much.

PIERCE, HARNER, STEPHENS - Indian Territory, Wagoner Co, OK

ettaw — 2012-10-15 21:05:50Z

Searching information regarding S. P. HARNER (born in Arkansas, Sept. 1853) listed in the 1900 Census of Oklahoma, Oklahoma County, Dewey Township as head of household with wife, M.L.; daughter, Minnie; son, J.H.; daughter, A.A.; son, B.B.B.; and grand-daughter, E.M. PIERCE, born in Indian Territory, Sept. 1889. Does this family sound familiar to anyone? I am looking for my grandmother, Etta Mae PIERCE who gave birth to my father, Willie (Bill) STEPHENS, 2 April 1903-04 in Wagoner, Oklahoma. He was told she was very young at the time of his birth and died soon afterward from childbirth complications. Does this family sound familiar to anyone? Any contact or information will be most welcome. Thanks, ettawithers@yahoo.com

Re: Chauley

mildredmerle — 2012-09-25 22:39:09Z

1940 census where my great grandmother-jessie davis and two sons show chauley where they was living in 1935 so ,it had to be in okla to ark or calif i forget which state,,,chelesa is a good guess

Re: Chauley

thegenhelper — 2012-09-25 22:16:04Z

It could be the enumerators attempt at spelling Chelsea as Chaulcy. I sorta think the "ey" is a "cy". Anyway just a thought.
Thegenhelper

Re: Chauley

mildredmerle — 2012-09-19 23:53:59Z

yes it is,,,,i did find chauley rd in okla,,thanks for helping,oh well,,,name could have been mispelled,,thanks for searching

Re: Chauley

diskoverit — 2012-09-19 23:49:59Z

Can't find a City or County named "Chauley" in Arizona or her place of birth, Arkansas either.
I tried other spellings for Chauley, based on the 1940 census and as it is handwritten, it looked similiar to Chaulcy, Chauloy, Chanloy, Chanlcy...
Frustrating isn't it?

Re: Chauley

mildredmerle — 2012-09-19 21:33:25Z

okay,i guess i could have read 1940 census wrong,,,,
jessie anna davis,her sons leonard davis,eugene davis was livng in ariz,, according to what i read in 1935 they lived in chauley,maybe it was ariz,,cause 1930 jessie and children lived in caddo county,okla,,,my mother was born in chelesa ,rogers county,okla

Re: Chauley

diskoverit — 2012-09-19 11:49:01Z

"Handy book for genealogists" Copywrite 1962 - 4th edition
Caddo is in Bryan County, Oklahoma, Southern most county at the Texas border, surrounded by Choctaw to the East, Atoka to the North and Marshall to the West with Johnston County between Atoka and Marshall.

I searched for a place/city named "Chauley" in all of the surrounding counties and did not find anything there or any of the other counties in the State of Oklahoma.
Arkansas is the East, Texas to the south and Kansas to the North. There was nothing for a city named "Chauley" in any of these states either.

Are you sure of the city name, spelling and state? Birth and death records are difficult to read as they were handwritten, and sometimes transcribed incorrectly.

What is the name? Maybe I can find something for you.

The Fighting Men of Oklahoma (Book) can lookup names

diskoverit — 2012-09-19 02:53:05Z

The Fighting Men of Oklahoma Vol. II
Happy to look up names, but not all names are in book.

Men and Women who enlisted in WWII in the State of Oklahoma.
**Not born necessarily born in Oklahoma, but actually enlisted in the State of Oklahoma.

Names, bio's and photos.

Re: chauley,okla

knort4 — 2012-09-10 17:15:40Z

9-10-2012

You can call the Tulsa City County Library at (918) 549-7323, ask for their Reference Department, and you can ask them where Chauley is (or if it even exists anymore or when exactly did it exist). They have a reference book that has Oklahoma Town Names on it, where they can look up the name Chauley and they can tell you when it was used and what county it was in. RESEARCHER

chauley,okla

mildredmerle — 2012-09-05 20:47:43Z

what county is it in ? would anyone know,how far from caddo county,and rogers county,,my mother was born in rogers county,her grandmother jessie davis lived in chauley in 1935

Re: Need back ground information on family born before 1900

oodles13 — 2012-09-03 20:55:30Z

my great grandmother on my daddy's side is Lizzie Sango in Oklahoma

Re: Mysterious Death in 1889, brick wall

delieres — 2012-08-25 22:10:44Z

hi,
catherine willard aka bonvouloir is in my tree-she is the daughter of edward willard and marguerite morriseau--edward also shows up as eduard bonvouloir--her brother, noel christopher, or christopher noel, is my 2x great ggrandfather. i have pictures of chris and family if you are interested.

sherry

Re: ISO Frankie Lee Tanner

cyntanner1960 — 2012-08-08 02:00:29Z

I am not certain if this is the Frankie you are looking for...This was my father's sister, Sadly I don't have much info on her, She had a child, but it died shortly after birth, A boy, I believe my mother said his name was Patrick...His father was German, They were divorced shortly afterwards, The child is buried in Keota, Okla. Frankie was my father's only sister and she was the oldest of 3 children to my grandmother, Pauline Joyce Boyd Tanner. Hope this helps...

Re: my grandfather Michael Ellis Herring

angeleahjoy — 2012-08-04 21:33:49Z

Oh my goodness! This is absolutely amazing! You are amazing! Thank you! I am seeing so many connections with names of people in my family. Thank you!

Re: my grandfather Michael Ellis Herring

OSgrad — 2012-07-04 15:18:13Z

In celebration of 4th of July I am posting information about your Revolutionary War ancestor, Ludwig, or Lewis, Hering (Herring).

There is a site named HeritageQuest which is a subscription site. I do not have a subscription but I do live in a metropolitan area with a library that does have the subscription, and makes it available to library card holders on their home computers. I found the pension application from the widow of Ludwig Hering, and I could see that it included the names and birth dates of children. However, it was very difficult to read. By doing a Google search I found the following information online. There are several abbreviations, so it might take a little time to get it all read. However, note this birth: Samuel Hering, b. 28 March 1802.

This is from the book, "Genealogical Abstracts of Revolutionary War Pension Applications".
HERING, Ludwig or Lewis Herring, Anna Maria, R4924, PA Line, sol m 3 Apr 1783 in Berks Co PA to Anna Maria Brochen or Broch, sol d 23 Sep 1836 in Venango Co PA where he had lived 30 yrs having moved there from Berks Co PA, wid appl 26 Apr 1838 Venango Co PA & she later reapplied 27 May 1842, children were; Christian b 9 Jan 1784, Henry b 12 Jan 1786, Chatarinna b 29 Sep 1788, Sophia b 18 Sep 1790 Daniel b 13 Oct 1792, Ludwig b 14 Nov 1794, Heman b 24 Oct 1798, Samuel b 28 Mar 1802 & George b 1 Jan 1805 also shown were; Nancy Deetz b 22 Mar 1815, & Nancy McCalm b 26 Mar 1818, the son Henry was of Venango Co PA in 1838, in 1856 the son Daniel was of Franklin, PA in 1840 sol's sis Christiane was aged 75 & was the wife of Godfrey Dreher who was aged 83 & they were of Schuylkill Co PA

And now to a couple of census records:

1850 Ohio, Blanchard, Hardin County
Samuel Herring, age 48, b. PA
Eliza Herring, 36, PA
Francis (male), 20, PA
Levi, 16, PA
Thomas, 14, PA
HEZEKIAH, 12, PA
Lewis, 10, PA
Robert, 8, OH
George, 6, OH
Rejoicy (female), 3, OH
Nancy E., 0 (infant), OH

1860 Missouri, Harrison Co.
Hesikah Hering, age 22, b. PA
Martha, age 26, b. IN
WILLIAM H., age 3, b. MO
Ada, age 2, MO
F. M. (female), age 2 mos.

William H. had moved to Lincoln Co. by 1910 and is the grandfather of Leslie Herring, b. Lincoln Co. OK.

It might be a couple of days, but I think I have a little more that can be posted.

Re: my grandfather Michael Ellis Herring

OSgrad — 2012-07-03 15:38:11Z

I just noticed that in the information for Samuel Herring, gggrandfather of Leslie Herring, the one providing the information posted for an alternate possibility which is very confusing. I found the 1850 census for the correct Samuel Herring and will include it in a future post. He and his wife, Eliza, had 7 sons before having a daughter. They named her Rejoicy!

Re: my grandfather Michael Ellis Herring

OSgrad — 2012-07-03 15:27:18Z

Hi, I have several things going on today so cannot post all that I want to send.

Your Herring line not only includes a veteran of the Civil War (Union), but also a veteran of the Revolutionary War. Ludwig Herring (also seen as Lewis) served in that war from Pennsylvania. His father’s name was also Ludwig, who came in from Germany, I think in 1742.

I am sending a link to Search Family Trees, starting with the name William Henry Herring, grandparents of Leslie Herring of Lincoln Co. OK. They came into Lincoln County before the 1910 census.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...

I do need to warn you that mistakes can often be found in this kind of information. If you click on the name, Clarence Leslie Herring, you will find that the person showed Leslie’s name as Lester and stated he died before 1996. No source is sited. I wonder if she mixed him up with the Leslie Herring b. about 1924, who lived in McCurtain County. The father of that Leslie was also named Clarence, but the maiden name of the mother of the McCurtain Co. Leslie Herring was Freeman. That Leslie died 1995 in CA. They are not the same person.

The Othel Herring is shown in the census record as male rather than female, so I think he was Leslie’s brother. Enumerators can make mistakes even on the sex listed. One of my aunts was shown as male in the 1900 census, but was correctly identified as female in 1910. The name Othel/Othal came from 2 different families. There was an older Othel Herring who was Leslie’s uncle from his father, and there is an Othal C. Crail who was Leslie’s uncle from his mother’s side.

When I have time to post more information, this will probably make more sense, but you can be looking through all the names at the above link. I have been looking for obituaries that might help clarify relationships, so far without luck.

Re: my grandfather Michael Ellis Herring

angeleahjoy — 2012-07-02 22:17:11Z

You are fantastic! I ran the names of the children by one of my aunts (my grandfather's daughter), and she said that she did remember hearing that her father had a sister named Othel and a brother named Roy. So, this has got to be the correct information. She was very happy to learn the names of her father's mother and father (as was I). I cannot thank you enough. Any further information you come across would be so wonderful. Thank you so very very much! Your help with this has been such an amazing thing. THANK YOU!!!

Re: my grandfather Michael Ellis Herring

OSgrad — 2012-07-01 21:19:40Z

I enjoy family research and live in OK, so I am glad to provide what information I can find. Some of this I have already sent to you, but it helps sometimes to review.

The Social Security Death Index information for Michael Ellis Herring shows that the number was issued in Oklahoma, so we know he lived in OK at one time. Your first post indicates his birth name was Leslie Herring, and his family might have been from around Chandler, which is in Lincoln Co. OK.

The parents of the Leslie Herring, Lincoln Co. born about 1926 were:
Clarence Leslie Herring and Gertha Mae “Gertie” Crail, who were married 5/02/1913, Lincoln Co. OK.

Numerous members of Leslie Herring’s family can be found in Lincoln Co. Go to findagrave.com and click on cemetery search. Fill in Parkland Cemetery, Oklahoma, Lincoln Co. Leslie’s mother, Gertie, died 1941, her burial information can be found, as well as his grandparents, William H. and Manda J. Herring (I think there is a photo of their double stone.) There is also burial information for a brother, Johnny Herring, and a sister, Fronia Thompson, as well as burial information for several of his uncles and aunts. Findagrave gives the address of Parkland Cemetery as Agra, but the Oklahoma Cemeteries site give directions indicating it is near Chandler. It would be a rural cemetery, somewhere between these two towns.

I have tried to find information re Michael Ellis Herring in more recent years to see if I can find a link between him and this Lincoln Co. Herring family. Naming patterns can sometimes be important. Although certainly not proof, they can be a clue. So, beginning with the 1920 census, here is what is shown as brothers and sisters of Leslie Herring.

1920, Lincoln Co. Union township (Union Twp is just north of Chandler.)
Clarence L. Herring, 29, MO
Gertha M., 25, MO
Freddie L., 7
Roy I., 4
Annie M., 2
Norma M. (couldn’t be sure of first name), 2 mos.

1930 Pawnee township, Lincoln Co.
Clarence L. Herring, 39, Mo, MO, IN
Gertie M., 36, MO., U. S. U. S
Freddie L., 17
Roy E.,14
Millie M., 12 (this should be the Annie M. of 1920)
William M. 7
Everett L., 5
Lessie, 2 yrs, 7 mos
Othal C., 1 yr, 10 mos.

I sent the 1940 census in a previous post. Note that sometimes there are mistakes in names, especially middle initials. Also I see that the family had an older son named William M. but also had a young son, Billy.

I did a Google search for Michael Ellis Herring and this entry came up. Roy E. Herring, age 56 (I think this might have been from around 2010.) Names shown as relatives or associates: Michael Ellis Herring, Leslie Marvin Herring, Ethel G. Herring, and Cynthia R. Herring. There is no further explanation of relationships. In another document I learned that Roy E. Herring and Leslie Marvin Herring are brothers. Could these be sons of Michael Ellis Herring? I think that the middle name of Roy E. Herring might be Everett. Leslie Herring of Lincoln Co. OK had brothers, Roy, and Everett, and of course there is the name Leslie.

In a later post I will send additional information of the earlier generations with a link that you can follow.

Re: my grandfather Michael Ellis Herring

angeleahjoy — 2012-06-29 03:38:05Z

I would love any information you can send about this Lester Herring. I do know that that is not my grandfather's name, but if census records could be incorrect, then it may be. Thank you so much for all the energy you have put into this for me.

Re: MOORE

moore_brenda — 2012-06-27 00:26:39Z

My g-g-gf was named John F. Moore. He had a daughter named Lizzie Moore born in 1862. Any more info?

Re: GOLDSBURY/RODGERS

mertheruny — 2012-06-26 06:59:46Z

Sultana Rodgers is a very unusual name. A Royal Navy officer named Rodgers who served at Constantinople in 1918-20 married a Russian woman whose name I could look up. Their daughter was born in Constantinople and named Sultana. The Rodgers parents settled later in Australia.

Re: my grandfather Michael Ellis Herring

OSgrad — 2012-06-14 15:55:09Z

At last the 1940 Oklahoma Census is indexed and searchable.

I found a Lester Herring, age 14 (b. estimated 1926), living in Lincoln Co. This is the same person as the Lessie Herring in the 1930 census, b. about 1928. But that is the way census records go.

You indicated that the man you were researching was born in OK, possibly around Chandler. Chandler is in Lincoln County, so this might be the RIGHT one.

I am posting his immediate family from the 1940 census. If you recognize any names, or if you would like me to post the additional information I found in census records, please respond to the message board.

Clarence Leslie Herring, age 49, b. MO
Gertie Herring, age 45, b. MO
All children were born in OK
William, 17
Everett, 16
Leslie, 14
Othel, 11
Fiona, 9, female, not sure of spelling
Johnnie, 7
Billy, 5
Rita Mae, 3 months.

I believe that at least of couple of the younger ones are still living. Othel Clarence Herring can be found in the online white pages, age 82, living in Chandler, Lincoln Co. OK

Rita Mae married Loy Lee Tanner, 9/01/1960 and is shown as currently living in the area of Agra, Lincoln Co. OK.

Clarence L. Herring married Gertie M. Crail, 5/02/1913, Lincoln Co. OK

The ggrandfather of this Leslie Herring was Hezekiah J. Herring who fought on the side of the Union, from MO. His physical description: age 23; height 5’8”; complexion, light; eyes, blue; hair, light; b. Vanango Co. PA.

I felt bad about what was apparently the wrong Leslie Herring with my first posting. Do you want me to send more about the family of this 2nd Lester Herring?

Re: my grandfather Michael Ellis Herring

angeleahjoy — 2012-06-03 06:13:08Z

I have no information about his parents or grandparents. After speaking with my Aunt (one of his daughters), I learned that she never knew her grandfather's name (he was only grandpa). I am very very interested in the information you found and would be truly grateful if you could share any of it with me. Thank you so very very much from the depths of my heart!!!

Re: my grandfather Michael Ellis Herring

OSgrad — 2012-06-03 01:39:11Z

Most of the free Social Security Death Index sites have discontinued showing the SS number. However, by doing a Google Search for the name Michael Ellis Herring I did find one site that has the SS number. Scroll down to the name Michael Ellis Herring.

http://www.death-record.com/d/n/Michael-Herring

In the 1930 Oklahoma census I found a Leslie Herring living with his mother in the home of his grandmother, Rowena (Roena) Herring. Leslie’s age is shown as 6 years, but census records are often off on ages. They were in Garvin Co. OK, but most of the time they were in McCurtain Co. OK, near Broken Bow. I learned quite a bit about the family of this Leslie Herring. His parents were married in McCurtain County, so possibly that is where he was born.

It might be that you have the information about the parents and grandparents. But if you think this might be your Leslie Herring, and need the information, l will be glad to post what I found.

my grandfather Michael Ellis Herring

angeleahjoy — 2012-06-02 03:07:10Z

My grandfather was born Sept. 7, 1926 in the state of Oklahoma (possibly Chanler?). He died August 23, 2010 in the state of Washington. He was born Leslie Herring (no middle name). He had his name legally changed to Michael Ellis Herring at some point. I know that he was born a twin and that his twin died at a very early age (although this was not really spoken about). I am trying to find his social security number so that I can run it through the National Indian Registry. I remember stories he told about his mother being full Cherokee Indian. I would really like to know his social security number, if anyone can help me.