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Freeman Comanche

Barleg — 2009-10-10 19:38:07Z

My daughter's grandfather was Harold Hix Freeman. I believe a member of her family did some research on his background and linked him to Quannah Parker. He was supposedly 1/4 Comanche. Could anyone verify or lead me where I can get more information.

Thank you,

Barbara

crow family

sdinkins60 — 2009-09-24 11:17:21Z

I just received the DNA info and confirms the Native American ancestry. I found that my great grandmother was a lady named syliva born 1885 in texas in Smith County. She appeared in the 1910 census roles but no reference to her after that. My grandmother was in the 1910 census in Lawton, Comanche county. My mother was born in Lone Wolf oklahoma. Her name was Hazel Crow. My grandmother told me that they live on a big farm near Lone Wolf.

My grandmother would never talk about her mother. No one in the family who knew anything would talk. I was told that I am Kiowa, I don't know. I have a picture of my grandmother and mother but none of my greatgrand mother.

If anyone has any info, it would be really nice to know who I am.

thanks

Re: Jim Two Hatchets

jeremydeanphoto — 2009-07-06 13:58:06Z

Allen,

Not sure if you still check this but email me. I think James Twohatchet was my greatgrandfather.....Jeremy

jeremydeanphoto@yahoo.com

Re: Jim Two Hatchets

jeremydeanphoto — 2009-07-06 13:50:24Z

I am also looking for information on James Twohatchet....I was adopted and have never met my biological family but on the hospital information it states that James Twohatchet is my great-grandfather, Jessie Lee King was my grandfather and Joycetta King (Smith) is my birth mother....I am a quarter Kiowa...any information on the Twohatchets would be amazing! jeremydeanphoto@yahoo.com

Re: clara jeanette crosby

ShawnCunningham45 — 2009-05-08 23:27:24Z

my great great grandmother was lottie smith, married to OLIVer selby in 1896 please tell me Clara crosby was her mother.

Re: Looking for info on great great grandmother

Carole_Mobley — 2009-04-29 12:39:56Z

Please email me direct at,
alcarole@fidnet.com
My info is too much(lots) to post on this site.
I tried sending some of it (The Mobleys and Two Hatchets)
to you via... thewellsfamily@mac.com
Hope you got it. ????? But questionable. Let me know.

Thanks Carole

Re: Looking for info on great great grandmother

mwells19 — 2009-04-28 19:21:28Z

Thank you for your quick reply. I am thankful to finally know that the Mobley's claimed CHEROKEE through the Mobley line. Alice C Stephens (Josiah's Second wife)can be found on the 1880 census for McLennan county. She is listed as "Ailsey" She was married to Jonathon Stephens, but we think her maiden name was Oursborne. She died in Oklahoma, but I know very little about her. Do you have anything? They supposedly lived near me(Coincidentally) on Cowhouse creek. Jonathon Died near Llano TX and is buried in an unmarked grave...? Alice C Mobley is listed in Ft. Cobb with her Stepson Alexander (Albert) Mobley. I am very thankful to have made contact with you. If you have any information about the Mobley line, please let me know. I am also interested in the Davis line as it seems there was some connection with two hatchets....?

Re: Looking for info on great great grandmother

Carole_Mobley — 2009-04-28 13:09:34Z

Matthew,
I know Nathen Mobley was a brother to my Josiah, they were just two... of many children(11) of James & Elizabeth (Clendenning/Clendein Moberly/Mobley of Indiana.
Originally from Rock Castle Co. KY, (says other researchers) & my Mobley family... said they "FIRST" came from Ogle Thrope Colony, Georgia.?????? Verbal....no documentation of that.
I have "semi" documentation info on my Mobleys.
I also know that my Mobley's claimed CHEROKEE blood through their MOBLEY ancestors & My Mary Davis, daughter of Tim Davis (married to William Samuel) (WS) Mobley, clamied KIOWA..........(But My Mary Davis would be No relation to your Nathan.) However.... I have found out much more info about her line.... since I last posted on this site too.
Josiah's first wife & mother of his children was, Rebecca Mary Monroe Ealy & she died in Trvais Co TX. After her death, Josiah's married second wife was Alice Stephens & they moved to Carneige, Ft Cobb, Anadarko area Oklahoma.

You can contact me direct, if you want, at
alcarole@fidnet.com
Thanks for replying, Carole Mobley

Looking for info on great great grandmother

2009-04-28 10:41:06Z

My gg grandmother was Ella Gumalty/Qumalty/Komalty, born1840 in TX. She married T.M.Davis. Her daughter, Mary E. Davis born 1877 in TX, married William S. Mobley. They settled at the foot of Saddle Mountain around1896. Later moving to Caddo Co.where Mary died 1918 and was buried in Ft.Cobb. The family had 160 acres, just east of Ft. Cobb called Mobley Corners. The family claimed Cherokee blood. But, Gumalty/Qumalty/Komalty is Kiowa. Any information would be much appreciated. Thank you. Carole Mobley

Re: Looking for info on great great grandmother

mwells19 — 2009-04-28 03:11:22Z

My GGGGrandfather is Nathan Mobley. Josiah Mobley's Brother who later married into my line.(no kids) Josiah(Williamson county TX) is William S Mobley's father. Josiah and Wife, Alice C. Stephens, moved to Ft. Cobb and then Josiah died. My GGGrandmother always said her grandmother was cherokee. That could have been Nathan, his wife, or both.....? Is it that Mary Davis is Kiowa ans Mobley's are cherokee hence the discrepency? Do you know if the mobleys were also Native American? Any info is helpful.

Matthew Wells

Cochise

bilken69 — 2009-02-11 11:01:40Z

According to a cousin, her grandfather told her that his wife was the granddaughter of Cochise. It would seem that Nahche, Cochise's son, was out riding a horse, but the horse went "crazy" and my great-grandfather, Andrew Jackson Miller, helped to save young Nahche and returned him to Cochise. In return, Cochise gave Miller one of his young daughters to marry. Eventually, Miller and Cochise's daughter had two children before she died after giving birth to my great-grandmother. Anyone even HEAR of Cochise having a daughter? Want to either disprove or prove this "family legend".

Re: Geronimo's Descendants?

mahytabel — 2009-01-21 22:35:15Z

Collette,

could you possibly email me at mahytabel@yahoo.com? I have a question for you and your email addy listed here is defunct.

Thanks,
Carrie Marsh

Re: My comanche ancestry

JamesYarbrough51 — 2009-01-14 16:39:56Z

You would have to provide some names and more details for anyone to assist.

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

JamesYarbrough51 — 2009-01-12 18:25:44Z

For Your Information - not my line.

The US Supreme Court settled arbitration on land disputes between Texas and Oklahoma in 1923 - it mad rulings regarding land allotments to Comanches.

Philomena Senoya. Allotment No. 3441, Comanche, 1910. W 1/2 of the SW 1/4 of section 36 and the SE 1/4 of the SE 1/4 of section 35, township 4 S., range 16 W.

Name: Philomena Senoya
Date of Birth: 1907
Age: 7
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of Household: Daughter
Father's Name: Senoya
Mother's Name: Louise Matilda
Tribe: Comanche
Reservation: Comanche and Apache
Agency: Kiowa
State: Oklahoma
Last Census Number: 1400
Previous Census Number: 1376
Census Date: 1 Jul 1914
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Senoya 62
Louise Matilda Senoya 52
Alice Senoya 15
Clara Senoya 13
Lucas Senoya 9
Philomena Senoya 7
Margaret Senoya 5
Source: Year: 1914; Roll: M595_214; Page: 53; Line: 10; Agency: Kiowa.

Name: Philomena Elms [Philomena Senoya]
Date of Birth: 1907
Age: 27
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Spouse's Name: Buster
Tribe: Comanche
Reservation: Kiowa Com Ap & Ft Sill Ap
Agency: Kiowa
State: Oklahoma
Last Census Number: 3166
Previous Census Number: 3089
Census Date: 1 Apr 1934
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Buster Elms
Philomena Elms 27
Marian Frances Elma 9
Virginia Leone Elma 7
Neoma Jean Elma 4
Source: Year: 1934; Roll: M595_222; Page: 257; Line: 2; Agency: Kiowa.

Re: Haumpo

JamesYarbrough51 — 2008-12-07 18:27:41Z

Caddo Co. OK - Memory Lane Cemetery
Haumpo, Betty A. 18 jun 1920 04 feb 1977
Haunpo, Wilda 1920 1971

Re: Haumpo

JamesYarbrough51 — 2008-12-07 18:18:23Z

Here are some start points for your research.

Spouse: Bernadine Haumpo
Name: Gary Wayne Boyiddle
Birth: 10/5/1950 (10 May 1950)
Death: 6/1981 (Jun 1981) - Lawton, Comanche, Oklahoma, United States of America
Parents: Jimmie Boyiddle, Mamie Kadayso

Name: Waumpo
[Haumpo]
Home in 1920: Mountain View, Kiowa, Oklahoma
Age: 69 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Oklahoma
Mother's Birth Place: Oklahoma
Marital Status: Married
Race: Indian (Native American)
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Image: 823
Household Members: Name Age
Waumpo 69
Ahpemak 58
Carrie Haumpo 10
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Mountain View, Kiowa, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1467; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 143; Image: 823.

Name: Martin Haumpo
Home in 1900: Apache, Kiowa and Comanche Reservation, Apache, Kiowa and Comanche
Rainy Mountain Indian Boarding School
Reservation, Oklahoma
Household Members: Name Age
Martin Haumpo pupil
Wallace Haumpo pupil
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Apache, Kiowa and Comanche Reservation, Apache, Kiowa and Comanche Reservation, Oklahoma;

Name: Carrie Haunpo
Date of Birth: 1909
Age: 9
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of Household: Daughter
Father's Name: Haun Po
Mother's Name: Ah Pe Mah
Tribe: Kiowa
Agency: Kiowa Indian
Last Census Number: 206
Census Date: 30 Jun 1918
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Haun Po 68
Ah Pe Mah 57
Carrie Haunpo 9
Source: Year: 1918; Roll: M595_215; Agency: Kiowa Indian

Name: Carrie Kaunpahkah
[Carrie Haunpo]
Date of Birth: 1909
Age: 27
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Spouse's Name: Kaunpahkah
Tribe: Kiowa
Reservation: Kiowa Comanche & Apache
Agency: Kiowa
State: Oklahoma
Last Census Number: 1647
Previous Census Number: 1545
Census Date: 1 Jan 1937
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Kaunpahkah 49
Carrie Kaunpahkah 27 (Carrie Waum-Po) Kiowa
Alfred Kodaseet 18
Roxie Kodaseet 14
Wanda May Kodaseet 10
Source: Year: 1937; Roll: M595_223; Page: 133; Line: 2; Agency: Kiowa.

Re: Haumpo

kinggidcrisis — 2008-11-26 00:36:46Z

My grandmother was a said Medicine Woman, and her name was Wanda Haumpo. But that's all I can help you with; whether their linked or not, I cannot say. I came on this site to find geneology myself.

Re: Geronimo's Descendants?

APACHEWE7 — 2008-08-24 20:28:36Z

Hi this is Enriqueta Martinez my research into our family tree is increditable. I found that my family memebers change there names .Look up the letter day of saints family research .They have real records of ou native american search. I have track down the family line and also ancestry has Indian

Re: Cache Creek Mission / Reformed Presbyterian Indian Mission

Irish2Irish — 2008-03-21 04:56:01Z

Thank you for the reply. Since my original post I have met the owners of the land on which the mission stands. I have family in Fletcher and the surrounding area. My dad's family has been in the area since the 1892. I found some information on the mission at the new history center in OK City across from the capital building. Do you live in the area? I am trying to find out who cares for the cemetery and who might have the records.

Cache Creek Mission / Reformed Presbyterian Indian Mission

Irish2Irish — 2007-02-27 01:39:06Z

I am looking for any information about the Cache Creek Indian Mission located SW of Apache, OK. It was formed in 1889 by the Reformed Presbyterian Church. The missionary from at least 1899 to 1920 was William Carithers. The mission started the Mission Cemetery located aroung the corner from the mission. It has a white stone arch which says "Comanche Indian Cemetery 1934" on the arch. My interest in the mission and the cemetery stems from my Gr.Gr. Grandmother, Jane Hazelwood and Gr. Grandfather, Pat Maguire who were buried in the Indian cemetery in 1906 and 1907 althought they were not Indian. The story I have is that Jane was involved with the Mission helping the Indian children. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Nickerson Family on 1930 Hobart, Kiowa Co., Oklahoma census

oanione — 2008-07-09 21:33:03Z

I do not know if this is where I should post this but maybe someone might know of this family, or maybe someone can send me where I need to post this.

Looking for Hazel Nickerson b. abt 1921 Oklahoma.
She is on the 1930 Hobart, Kiowa, Oklahoma census with her parents Hiram Isaac Nickerson and Orpha Jane Nickerson.
She had a brother Orville L. Nickerson b. 1914 OK., d. 1984 Pittsburg Co, OK Buried in McAlester, OK.
Hiram and Orpha are buried in Deaf Smith Co, TX.

If any can help me with Hazel or her Mother Orpha I thank you in advance.
Joan

Re: Geronimo's Descendants?

APACHEWE7 — 2008-08-24 03:30:29Z

Hi ,we did our dna our bloodline is native american. My grandmther name was florence, florencia, she was native her family in white mountain,. She change her name in 1920. Her and my dad change there names .All I know is her family knew her.let me run some other names .She was sold to the mexican in mexico .The rancher name was Toribio lopez Her mother name was Hermegildia . I done know if that her ma. Also gamboa or jemez She said , last names replace. I found my dad with two names E Martinez and Ezekiel Martinez. My dad and my grandmther spoke apache language.

Re: Geronimo's Descendants?

APACHEWE7 — 2008-08-21 16:33:05Z

Hi I am Kathy Martinez, my grandmother is florencia or lancha.She told me about living in white mountain. She claim that Geronimo was her grandfather. She change her last name in 1920. She said they only use one name no last names,but her mother last was gamboa I do not know her real dad name.Toribio , cayetano ,antonia ,apolonia,tiburico,beaulia,lino garcia do you know any of these family?

Reyes Torres

teresaslo1 — 2007-02-19 17:56:23Z

I am looking for any relations to a Reyes Torres born in Sweetwater TX late 1800's. He was part of the Kiowa Apache comanche relocation program of that time. Receiving land grants in that area. One of the founding Kiowa of that area yet no mention of them except for some historical accounts of that city! I know that there several relatives in that area currently due to relatives accounts. Last known contact 1983 when they came to Los Angeles for my Grandmother Refugia(Ruth) Torres funeral. There's alot of offspring from my Great Grandfather. Some in Witchita Ks, Los Angeles, Oakland....not to mention Sweetwater TX and El Paso. Any info would be great.

Reyes Torres

teresaslo1 — 2007-02-19 17:56:17Z

Re: Boelen Apache 1909

cynthia_luna_m — 2008-06-18 18:41:41Z

Hi Liz,
I know this thread is a few years old, but i wanted you to know that there are many individuals named Luna that came into the US via border crossing in Laredo TX. My grandparents were among those. Feel free to view my family tree.

cindy

Gordon Keybone

richardlaible1 — 2007-05-20 18:30:09Z

During the 1960's I attended the University of Iowa with Gordon Keybone. Gordon called himself a Kiowa. He was very interested in the anthropology and archeology of Native Americans and may have made a career of this work. I have not seen or heard of Gordon since graduating. If anyone knows of Gordon Keybone, I would appreciate having his contact information.

Thank you.
richardlaible@hotmail.com

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

rogersfamilytree11 — 2007-11-29 08:31:26Z

My children are great grandchildren of Petra Senoya also, descendants of Sophia Faralla, grandmother. I would like to be able to trace their family tree and would appreciate any information you can give. Thanks for all your work. I have learned more out of your data than what has been passed on to me. Sophia died abt 1955 leaving her children void of family background.

Re: JOJO LANE

tp4630tp — 2007-08-09 23:04:07Z

Great News!! Thank you for the information. I had his mother as Elizabeth but that could also be Mary E. (Elizabeth). It also verified the tribe and gave me, Orville, another sibling I didn't have. His sister Marie Realrider died this past May in Pawnee and I am trying to locate an obit. Thanks again for your help.

JOJO LANE

tp4630tp — 2007-07-30 17:30:54Z

JOJO LANE is my deceased father's cousin. He is buried in the Little Washita KCA Indian Cemetery in Fletcher, OK. Birth: 12-4-1887 Death: 8-6-1972. I am trying to find more information about him and the family and what tribe he was from. His father was Hayden Lane. Jojo was married to Irene Pahcoddy at time of death. Her parents are also buried in this cemetery. His step sister is Marie Lane Realrider who died 5-10-2007 was married to Austin Realrider. His headstone says he was a father and a grandfather and I would like to connect with these people. I visited the cemetery this summer but was unable to do any other research at that time. Thank you for your help.

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

Lonnie_Henderson — 2007-11-30 23:17:05Z

Amador Frank Torralba and his second wife, Juanita (Asetoyer) are my grandparents. Juanita's father was Esa Toyah (in Comanche), Grey Mountain in English. I have created a Grey Mountain family tree in
www.myfamily.com
I have not added any data on Amador's first wife, Petra Senoyah.
I will send an invitation to visit that site via seperate email.

Lonnie (Torralba) Henderson

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

tkavanag1 — 2007-07-14 02:12:19Z

LindaGrindel10:

Several points:

On a personal (to me) matter, you wrote:

"On the allotment list of 1879-1901..."

There is no "allotment list of 1879-1901." What you have viewed on-line is a compilation *I* made of the census lists, 1879-1899, and the allotments of 1901, and posted on my web site at Indiana.edu. It has been cross-posted and cross-referenced so many times that the basic credit line to me has been lost (not that I get anything out of it).

Now, to your question:
"On the allotment list of 1879-1901 I found my great grandmother Petra Senoya. ... With Aldove their is a list of three bands he followed: Esananaka, Pahoddy, Carpio.

Senoya was apparently the same as "Aldava." I base that on the same relative positions of "Senoya", ages, sex, etc., on the 1879 and 1880 censuses, and "Aldava" on the 1883 and following censuses. Those censuses are at the Oklahoma Historical Society, microfilm roll KA 1/1a).

Yes Senoya/Aldava was the father.

Petra/Maud Senoya/Aldava was born in 1890; I have her on the 92, 95, 01 census, 01 allotment list, 04, and 05 census.

Esananaka was the son of Paruasemena,'Ten Bears'. When Ten Bears died in 1872, his local group, the Ketahto 'Don't Wear Shoes' split into three: two of his sons, Esananaka and Hitetetsi 'Little Crow', and his grandson, Cheevers. Esananaka and Little Crow died soon thereafter and their people scattered. Many, but not all of Esananaka's people went to his nephew-in-law, Attocknie (married Querherbitty, sis of Cheevers, gd of Ten Bears).

Senoya is listed with Esananaka in 1879 and 1880, with Pahcoddy in 1883, and with Carpio in 1889.

"Bands" had a diminishing role on the reservation as the agents attempted to focus more on individual families. Thus after 1889, the agency censuses did not explicitly list people by "bands" although they are often in the same order as on the earlier "band" lists

I do not have my documents with me here in Lawton (I am spending three weeks here for Homecoming, research, and visiting) so I cannot answer further.

Thomas W. Kavanagh, PhD
Esimotsotaivo

Re: Nickerson Family on 1930 Hobart, Kiowa Co., Oklahoma census

JamesYarbrough51 — 2008-07-21 00:28:27Z

All of the below research would require further reasearch:

Janssen Family Tree (Owner: jeffj153)

http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/family.aspx?tid=406143&pid=...

Hiram Isaac Nickerson 38 in 1930
Parents: John James Nickerson & Samantha E. Sawley

Orpha Jane
Parents: Unknown TX & Unknown TX
Birth: 30 apr 1898 texas
Death: 10 dec 1977
married at 16 abt 1914

Timeline
1892 11 Sep Birth Birth Hiram I Nickerson

Alabama

4 historical records
1900 United States Federal Census
1910 United States Federal Census
1920 United States Federal Census
1930 United States Federal Census
1900
Age: 8 Residence

Elliottsville, Shelby, Alabama

1 historical record
1900 United States Federal Census
1910
Age: 18 Residence

Hobart Ward 2, Kiowa, Oklahoma

1 historical record
1910 United States Federal Census
1920
Age: 28 Residence

Hobart, Kiowa, Oklahoma

1 historical record
1920 United States Federal Census
1930
Age: 38 Residence

Hobart, Kiowa, Oklahoma

1 historical record
1930 United States Federal Census
1954 5 Jun Age: 61 Death

Children

Name Sex Birth Ancestry Hints
Orville L. Nickerson View Profile M 28 oct 1914 - OK
Mera Nickerson View Profile F 1917 in Oklahoma - not on 1930 census
Hazel O. Nickerson View Profile F 1921 OK

Name: Orpha Cox
Age in 1910: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: James R
Father's Birth Place: Texas
Mother's Name: Birdie
Mother's Birth Place: Louisiana
Home in 1910: Ardmore Ward 4, Carter, Oklahoma
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James R Cox 43 TN UNK MO
Birdie Cox 36 TX LA LA
Mollie Cox 18 OK
Vena Cox 14 OK
Orpha Cox 12 OK
Ola Cox 10 OK
James R Cox 8 OK
Della Cox 5 OK
Houston Cox 13 OK
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Ardmore Ward 4, Carter, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1246; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 45; Image: 842.

Re: JOJO LANE

JamesYarbrough51 — 2007-08-09 21:28:56Z

U.S. Indian Census Schedules, 1885-1940
about Jojo Lane
Name: Jojo Lane
Date of Birth: 1 Jul 1928
Age: 7
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Relation to head-of-household: Son
Father's name: Haden
Mother's name: Mary E
Tribe: Pawnee
Reservation: Pawnee
Agency: Pawnee Indian
State: Oklahoma
Last Census Number: 420
Previous Census Number: 385
Census Date: 1 Jan 1937
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Haden Lane
Mary E Lane 45
Orville N Lane 20
Marie J Lane 18
Jojo Lane 7
Billy G Lane 5

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

JamesYarbrough51 — 2007-07-05 03:04:02Z

Name: Petra Senoya Faralla
Date of Birth: abt 1890
Age: 21
Gender: Female
Relation to head-of-household: Head
Tribe: Comanche
Agency: Kiowa
State: Oklahoma
Last Census Number: 1391
Census Date: 30 Jun 1911

All on that census page:

Willie Pearl Biggerstaff Head abt 1892 Female Comanche Oklahoma
Vivian Biggerstaff Daughter abt 1909 Female Comanche Oklahoma
George A Dietrich abt 1889 Male Comanche Oklahoma
Bert B Dietrich Head abt 1885 Male Comanche Oklahoma
Lotsee Dietrich Daughter abt 1907 Female Comanche Oklahoma
Eva May Dietrich Daughter abt 1910 Female Comanche Oklahoma
Thomas M Dietrich Head abt 1883 Male Comanche Oklahoma
Marrel F Dietrich Daughter abt 1905 Female Comanche Oklahoma
Edward A Dietrich Son abt 1909 Male Comanche Oklahoma
Violetta Lelia Dietrich Daughter abt 1910 Female Comanche Oklahoma
Alvada Head abt 1853 Male Comanche Oklahoma
Louise Matilda Senoya Wife abt 1863 Female Comanche Oklahoma
Cervera Senoya Son abt 1894 Male Comanche Oklahoma
Jacob Senoya Son abt 1897 Male Comanche Oklahoma
Alice Senoya Daughter abt 1900 Female Comanche Oklahoma
Clara Senoya Daughter abt 1901 Female Comanche Oklahoma
Lucas Senoya Son abt 1904 Male Comanche Oklahoma
Plilomena Senoya Daughter abt 1907 Female Comanche Oklahoma
Margaret Senoya Daughter abt 1909 Female Comanche Oklahoma
Petra Senoya Faralla Head abt 1890 Female Comanche Oklahoma
Tinnie Daughter abt 1906 Female Comanche Oklahoma
Raimundo Faralla Son abt 1908 Female Comanche Oklahoma
Sophia Faralla Daughter abt 1910 Female Comanche Oklahoma
Thomas Senoya Head abt 1889 Male Comanche Oklahoma
Mary Senoya Daughter abt 1910 Female Comanche Oklahoma
James Senoya abt 1886 Male Comanche Oklahoma
Nellie Carey abt 1873 Female Comanche Oklahoma

Re: Stephens at Fort Sill

JamesYarbrough51 — 2007-07-05 02:51:04Z

Comanche County Mariage index:
STEVENS Maude E. 19 IA Mt. View LONGACRE Chat Y. 32 MO
Minco 16 Apr 1902

STEVENS Nellie 22 MO Lawton PEARSON W.J. 24 IA Lawton 4 Jun 1902

1910 Census:
Name: Chat j Longacre
Age in 1910: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Missouri
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Virginia
Mother's Birth Place: Tennessee
Spouse's name: Maudies
Home in 1910: Jackson, Johnson, Missouri
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Chat j Longacre 39
Maudies Longacre 27
Lola Longacre 7
Ora Longacre 4
Olme Longacre 3
Ninie Longacre 2
Maud Longacre 9/12

Stephens at Fort Sill

jmfristad — 2007-07-02 06:37:52Z

Looking for verification that
Maude Ethel Stephens
born in Missouri, 1881
was a homesteader in the Oklahoma Territory around 1900-1910.

She sold dresses to the officers' wives at Fort Sill

Re: Stephens at Fort Sill

jmfristad — 2007-07-05 07:18:00Z

Thanks for the info but I believe this is a different Maude.

Possible she had a first husband but that's the first I've heard.

Maude Ethel Stephens
b. 1881 in Cooper County, Missouri
married 1914 to Arch Ballenger

Moved to Oklahoma with an "Aunt Belle"
Married in New Mexico, moved to California.

Re: Ethel Taylor

Rpilletpta — 2008-07-27 04:09:45Z

Im very new to all this but I need answers and this is a shot in the dark. Have you ever heard that sitting bull changed his name to James Henry Hill at any point in his life? This is a story passed down in my family but information is scarce and the family doesn't talk much. Any help would be wonderful. Supposedly he is my great-great-great grandfather. Looking like that is a lot of peoples story though. Anyways...any help would be great. Thanks so much!

Re: JOJO LANE

angechohawk — 2008-06-05 22:27:14Z

hello I found this while strolling through the web today, my grandmother was marie realrider and was a full sister to JoJo lane. I am very interested in any information you would need. Thank you......

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

LindaGrindel10 — 2008-04-05 03:09:51Z

Dear Thomas Kavanagh:

You were so kind in answering a question I had back on Ancestry July 13, 2007 about my Comanche family Senoya. I'm still plugging away. I finally found a live person at the Bureau of Indian Affairs in Anadarko to help look up where my grandmother is buried (she died in 1945 at the Lawton Indian Hospital).

I hope I am not intruding by asking this question. My Great Great Grandmother was Louise (or Louisa) Matilda. Her husband is listed as Aldava or Senoya. My question is it possible that the name Louise is a white name and she is a victim of the kidnapping the Comanche's did back in the day? My mother remembers a story of a family member being kidnapped, I cannot help but think this may be the relative. I also wonder if she is German. I doubt I could ever truly find the answer to that question but if you think that the name stands out - I would appreciate your thoughts. I have another family witness who says she saw loads of photos from the "Aldava or Senoya" family with blue eyes and blonde hair.

Thanks so much - I don't bug much - I'll leave you alone after this.

Respectfully yours,

Linda Grindel (ancestry member LindaGrindel10)

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

LindaGrindel10 — 2007-11-29 15:16:57Z

This is so exciting - we are relatives! Sophia had three children you must be one of them or the mother of the children of one of the sons. I know there was a son around, I am hoping you are him. Her daughter lives in Hawaii, wife of a very famous movie producer (Sony Productions). The son I know had photos from his mother.

My mother Evelyn (Sophia's niece) said that Sophia was so beautiful. Tall and so lovely. Very kind woman. Isn't it tragic how Petra dies very young, Raymundo her son dies of TB, Cecelia dies at childbirth and Sophia dies of cancer.

Can you write me please so we can discuss more. Perhaps exchange photos? You can write to Grindel9103@comcast.net.

Your are so welcome and thank you dear cousin,

Linda Grindel

Senoya with Comanche tribe

LindaGrindel10 — 2007-05-30 14:26:05Z

On the allotment list of 1879-1901 I found my great grandmother Petra Senoya. Other names are listed with her:
Alice, Armstrong/James, George Caervera, Jacob, Louise/Matila, Petra/Maud, Thomas, Aldava (or Aldove). With Aldove their is a list of three bands he followed:
Esananaka, Pahoddy, Carpio.

I found one listing on rootsweb with Esananaka which showed Greymountain. Greymountains daughter Juanita married my grandfather Amador Torralba after Petras death (obviously at a young age).

Anyone know the direction I go to find specifics of the relations of the people on this allotment list? For instance was Aldove the father and the rest his family?

Does anyone know where I can find out about the name of those three specific bands?

Thanks so much for your help.

Linda Durham-Grindel

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

LindaGrindel10 — 2007-07-22 07:45:12Z

WOW - thank you so much. I'm speechless. WOW.

I'm sorry to just reply I have been back east with no computer. Thank you again, so much.

Linda Grindel

Re: Cache Creek Mission / Reformed Presbyterian Indian Mission

olderwise1 — 2008-03-15 08:44:02Z

The mission you speak of still stands and is located 4 miles west of Apache and about 1 1/2 miles south of state highway 19. The cemetery is just north of the mission and a couple of hundred yards to the east on the north side of the road with the arch still standing; and the cemetery is still being used today. There is no online data of the people buried in this cemetery that I know of, I have searched this as I have been researching my family history. However; the Lawton public library does have a book in the genealoy section that contains the information of the markers in that cemetery.

There is another cemetery named Cache Creek that is located on the same sw quarter section of the KCA Cache Creek cemetery. Now this cemetery does have a database online and can be found through OkGenWeb genealogy site in Caddo county. If you do not find who you are looking for you will have to make a trip to the Lawton library.

You are correct about the Carithers being involved with the mission, and I'm pretty sure that he was a minister and that he preformed the marriage ceramonies for some of my ancestors.

I know that this is an old posting and hope that you still check it from time to time.

Good luck

Keith

Re: Cache Creek Mission / Reformed Presbyterian Indian Mission

olderwise1 — 2008-03-21 17:04:54Z

Yes I do live in the area, within 6 miles of both, the mission and the cemetery and have many relatives laying below the head stones. I'm not absolutely sure, but I think the Comanche Nation has taken it upon themselves the responsibility of caring for the up keep of the grounds. If they are I do not know if they are cataloging any data as far as new burials. One phone number 580-595-3300, (one of many Comanche Nations phone numbers) might be of some help as far as inquires go for any info that I just mentioned. They do have many other numbers listed in the Lawton area phone book.

As far as old cemetery records read my first reply again, I explained that in it. The book of records that I've previously mentioned within it may also be at the history center in OKC. I do know that they have a website, but I do not know if they have their library data base available online or not, you'll just have to check it out. Again, good luck.

Re: Cache Creek Mission / Reformed Presbyterian Indian Mission

olderwise1 — 2008-03-21 17:00:26Z

Yes I do live in the area, within 6 miles of both, the mission and the cemetery and have many relatives laying below the head stones. I'm not absolutely sure, but I think the Comanche Nation has taken it upon themselves the responsibility of caring for the up keep of the grounds. If they are I do not know if they are cataloging any data as far as new burials. One phone number 580-595-3000, (one of many Comanche Nations phone numbers) might be of some help as far as inquires go for any info that I just mentioned. They do have many other numbers listed in the Lawton area phone book.

As far as old cemetery records read my first reply again, I explained that in it. The book of records that I've previously mentioned within it may also be at the history center in OKC. I do know that they have a website, but I do not know if they have their library data base available online or not, you'll just have to check it out. Again, good luck.

Re: Geronimo's Descendants?

Collette_Wilkes — 2008-08-21 22:42:18Z

Kathy,

None of those names ring a bell in the history that I've got. I'm to the point that I think the stories handed down to my generation were false or wishful thinking.

Thank you for sending me an email. If I run across any of these names, I'll let you know.

Thanks again,

Collette Wilkes

My comanche ancestry

Avalon17 — 2008-03-29 03:23:09Z

I'm searching for information on my Comanche grandfather. I'm told he was a medicine man and as far as I know, died in 1924/25 in Kansas or Oklahoma. I was also told that he was married to a Choctaw woman. The had a daughter who would be my paternal grandmother.

Thanks for any guidance.

great grandmother

KarenMogg70 — 2008-06-22 22:06:06Z

I was told that my great grandmother was Comanche-she was supposedly stolen in a raid by some settlers in a little town named Harkeyville in Texas in the late 1800's-they named her Truelove and she married my great grandfather. I don't know if anyone can help me but would appreciate any information. Thank you, KMogg