Kiowa, Comanche and Apache Lands - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Juan Black Arrow, Comanche

freedomusa1 — 2012-06-08 19:24:55Z

We are of a Phillips line, and have found that you have to be very careful, one Phillips line is native american, the other came over from Ireland, scottland and that area. I've gone into qyite a few trees and found that the two names have been mixed. People don't seem to realize that native americans didn't have surnames. They kind of picked them up as them progressed. Our Phillips name came down from canada,as folk lore says one of our ancestors was working for a man that treated him very well and when the time came and he needed a surname he took the name from that man.

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

arielandarya — 2012-01-27 16:01:52Z

Does anyone have any information about what "Senoya" actually means or where it came from? Descendants of Aldova and Matilda Louise Senoya (via their son Thomas Senoya) would greatly appreciate any information you can provide. Please email me at arielandarya@gmail.com. Thank you! :)

Meaning of Senoya?

arielandarya — 2012-01-27 15:59:35Z

Re: Ethel Taylor

vgruver_1 — 2011-10-20 03:06:10Z

Hi, This is Virginia, my Grandmother is May Little Flower Sharp. I would like to know more about my Grandfather Clarence Sharp. I have very fond memories of him and as far as I am concerned he is my Grandfather and I will always love him.

Re: PERSCHY

theonlykipmeister — 2011-05-14 03:33:34Z

My name is also Perschy. Not exactly a common name. My family is also Austo-Hungarian. My grandfather and his brothers didn't arrive until after WWI. They all settled in the Pittsburgh area. I can guarantee you that Perschy is not an American Indian name. However Mary Perschy does look an awful lot like a cousin of mine and the name Mary/Maria is a name repeated over and over again in my family tree. I'm not at all familiar with Native culture but I would assume that a wondering Austrian man ended up in Oklahoma and married into a people. He must have been well respected to have found his way into their cemetary.

Re: Mason - Goza

bettyl89 — 2011-04-12 01:22:17Z

Elizabeth Goza was my grgrandmother.
Betty Lou
Roseville, CA

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

LindaGrindel10 — 2010-07-20 01:03:50Z

Oh that is wonderful - my mom has Rheumatoid Arthritis since she was 12 - totally crippled. I would love to see the photo of your grandmother and your mother and yourself. You are all family but your grsndmother is directly linked to my great grandmother Petra. Did you mother remember Petra dying young?

Write me on my e-mail and we can exchange phone numbers Grindel9103@comcast.net.
Thanks, Linda

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

bcarder1954 — 2010-07-20 00:53:25Z

I quizzed her last night and she didn't have much to tell me. I can tell you that Louise Matilda walked with the aid of two canes. My mother thinks she may have died of brain cancer. By the way, the picture I have is of my grandmother when she was young.

My grandmother also had severe arthritis, as does both my mother and I'm getting there.

I will ask my mother if she minds me giving you her phone # and maybe you can talk to her direct. I will email you instead of posting.

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

LindaGrindel10 — 2010-07-19 13:56:51Z

I would love to see photos - if you have any. Did your grandmother ever talk about her life to her daughter Norma Jean? Thanks so much.

Linda

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

bcarder1954 — 2010-07-19 02:35:39Z

A lot of the headstones are missing - I have only been there once about ten years ago. The cemetery is really overgrown with lots of stickers.

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

LindaGrindel10 — 2010-06-27 14:38:44Z

Thank you - yes I would love more information. I was at the Roach Cemetary two years ago - that is where my grandmother Cecelia was buried - there are no headstones with any of our family left - not that they are not there - but no one seems to know where the burial sites are. So Philomena was daughter to Louise and Aldava? Was Petra my great grandmother the same as Philomena? Please write me at Grindel9103@comcast.net. I would also like to know if you know how Aldava died? It shows Louise as a widow in the census in 1920. I have not found a different name for her with Rosales but I will look. Thanks so much cuz,
Linda Grindel

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

bcarder1954 — 2010-06-27 10:17:25Z

Philomena Senoya was my grandmother, her second husband was Joe Rosales. My mother Norma Jean is the last surviving daughter. I have copies of the some of the original indian allotments for this family. Some records list Senoya Aldiva and some as Senoya Aldova. Family lived in Andarko Oklahoma for a long time.

Some of the family members are buried at the Roach Cemetery outside of Anadarko Oklahoma.

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

bcarder1954 — 2010-06-27 10:17:05Z

Re: Cozads in OK and their genealogy

ElainaCozadTorres — 2010-04-17 02:56:51Z

My grandfather Leonard Cozad jr. is not the father of this zachary. my gradparents only have two children. my mother and uncle. if you have any questions regarding the cozad family i would be happy to assist you, being an actual member of the family.

thank you, Elaina Cozad

Re: Kiowa Dutch

kgboyiddle — 2010-04-03 02:26:37Z

Hello,
I don't know if Boin-Edal is the same as Boyiddle. My great grandfather was a white captive blond and blue eyes. He was a boy when he was taken. He married a mexican captive later in his life. I was told that Boyiddle translated in kiowa is big and white.

PERSCHY

lap22375 — 2010-03-25 01:01:03Z

While researching my family history, I was surprised to find a Grandfather PERSCHY who is buried in Little Washita Cemetery (Caddo County, OK). I found a photograph on the Lawton Library webpage http://www.cityof.lawton.ok.us/Library/native.htm) of what appears to be his daughter or granddaughter. Since my relatives named Perschy came from Austria-Hungary, I am curious how the Grandfather Perschy buried in Little Washita Cemetery got his last name. That last name does not appear to be Native American. If anyone has any information or has suggestions on where I can start researching, it would be appreciated!

Lois

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

bsc1954 — 2010-02-08 05:44:49Z

Louise Matilda Senoya was my great grandmother and my grandmother was Philomena Senoya. I will ask my mother about her name grandmother's name - you can email me at bsc1954@aol.com for more info. Senoya was listed as Aldiva and Aldava. Be sure to register with the Comanche tribe.

Re: clara jeanette crosby

kimconwell — 2010-01-23 18:10:56Z

Clara Jenette Crosby Smith was my 3rd great grandmother. Here is a link to her obit.
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.usa.states.okl...
My family descends from Clara through the Mrs. Gertie Smith who is mentioned in the Obit

Freeman Comanche

Barleg — 2009-10-10 19:38:07Z

My daughter's grandfather was Harold Hix Freeman. I believe a member of her family did some research on his background and linked him to Quannah Parker. He was supposedly 1/4 Comanche. Could anyone verify or lead me where I can get more information.

Thank you,

Barbara

crow family

sdinkins60 — 2009-09-24 11:17:21Z

I just received the DNA info and confirms the Native American ancestry. I found that my great grandmother was a lady named syliva born 1885 in texas in Smith County. She appeared in the 1910 census roles but no reference to her after that. My grandmother was in the 1910 census in Lawton, Comanche county. My mother was born in Lone Wolf oklahoma. Her name was Hazel Crow. My grandmother told me that they live on a big farm near Lone Wolf.

My grandmother would never talk about her mother. No one in the family who knew anything would talk. I was told that I am Kiowa, I don't know. I have a picture of my grandmother and mother but none of my greatgrand mother.

If anyone has any info, it would be really nice to know who I am.

thanks

Re: Jim Two Hatchets

jeremydeanphoto — 2009-07-06 13:58:06Z

Allen,

Not sure if you still check this but email me. I think James Twohatchet was my greatgrandfather.....Jeremy

jeremydeanphoto@yahoo.com

Re: Jim Two Hatchets

jeremydeanphoto — 2009-07-06 13:50:24Z

I am also looking for information on James Twohatchet....I was adopted and have never met my biological family but on the hospital information it states that James Twohatchet is my great-grandfather, Jessie Lee King was my grandfather and Joycetta King (Smith) is my birth mother....I am a quarter Kiowa...any information on the Twohatchets would be amazing! jeremydeanphoto@yahoo.com

Re: clara jeanette crosby

ShawnCunningham45 — 2009-05-08 23:27:24Z

my great great grandmother was lottie smith, married to OLIVer selby in 1896 please tell me Clara crosby was her mother.

Re: Looking for info on great great grandmother

Carole_Mobley — 2009-04-29 12:39:56Z

Please email me direct at,
alcarole@fidnet.com
My info is too much(lots) to post on this site.
I tried sending some of it (The Mobleys and Two Hatchets)
to you via... thewellsfamily@mac.com
Hope you got it. ????? But questionable. Let me know.

Thanks Carole

Re: Looking for info on great great grandmother

mwells19 — 2009-04-28 19:21:28Z

Thank you for your quick reply. I am thankful to finally know that the Mobley's claimed CHEROKEE through the Mobley line. Alice C Stephens (Josiah's Second wife)can be found on the 1880 census for McLennan county. She is listed as "Ailsey" She was married to Jonathon Stephens, but we think her maiden name was Oursborne. She died in Oklahoma, but I know very little about her. Do you have anything? They supposedly lived near me(Coincidentally) on Cowhouse creek. Jonathon Died near Llano TX and is buried in an unmarked grave...? Alice C Mobley is listed in Ft. Cobb with her Stepson Alexander (Albert) Mobley. I am very thankful to have made contact with you. If you have any information about the Mobley line, please let me know. I am also interested in the Davis line as it seems there was some connection with two hatchets....?

Re: Looking for info on great great grandmother

Carole_Mobley — 2009-04-28 13:09:34Z

Matthew,
I know Nathen Mobley was a brother to my Josiah, they were just two... of many children(11) of James & Elizabeth (Clendenning/Clendein Moberly/Mobley of Indiana.
Originally from Rock Castle Co. KY, (says other researchers) & my Mobley family... said they "FIRST" came from Ogle Thrope Colony, Georgia.?????? Verbal....no documentation of that.
I have "semi" documentation info on my Mobleys.
I also know that my Mobley's claimed CHEROKEE blood through their MOBLEY ancestors & My Mary Davis, daughter of Tim Davis (married to William Samuel) (WS) Mobley, clamied KIOWA..........(But My Mary Davis would be No relation to your Nathan.) However.... I have found out much more info about her line.... since I last posted on this site too.
Josiah's first wife & mother of his children was, Rebecca Mary Monroe Ealy & she died in Trvais Co TX. After her death, Josiah's married second wife was Alice Stephens & they moved to Carneige, Ft Cobb, Anadarko area Oklahoma.

You can contact me direct, if you want, at
alcarole@fidnet.com
Thanks for replying, Carole Mobley

Looking for info on great great grandmother

2009-04-28 10:41:06Z

My gg grandmother was Ella Gumalty/Qumalty/Komalty, born1840 in TX. She married T.M.Davis. Her daughter, Mary E. Davis born 1877 in TX, married William S. Mobley. They settled at the foot of Saddle Mountain around1896. Later moving to Caddo Co.where Mary died 1918 and was buried in Ft.Cobb. The family had 160 acres, just east of Ft. Cobb called Mobley Corners. The family claimed Cherokee blood. But, Gumalty/Qumalty/Komalty is Kiowa. Any information would be much appreciated. Thank you. Carole Mobley

Re: Looking for info on great great grandmother

mwells19 — 2009-04-28 03:11:22Z

My GGGGrandfather is Nathan Mobley. Josiah Mobley's Brother who later married into my line.(no kids) Josiah(Williamson county TX) is William S Mobley's father. Josiah and Wife, Alice C. Stephens, moved to Ft. Cobb and then Josiah died. My GGGrandmother always said her grandmother was cherokee. That could have been Nathan, his wife, or both.....? Is it that Mary Davis is Kiowa ans Mobley's are cherokee hence the discrepency? Do you know if the mobleys were also Native American? Any info is helpful.

Matthew Wells

Cochise

bilken69 — 2009-02-11 11:01:40Z

According to a cousin, her grandfather told her that his wife was the granddaughter of Cochise. It would seem that Nahche, Cochise's son, was out riding a horse, but the horse went "crazy" and my great-grandfather, Andrew Jackson Miller, helped to save young Nahche and returned him to Cochise. In return, Cochise gave Miller one of his young daughters to marry. Eventually, Miller and Cochise's daughter had two children before she died after giving birth to my great-grandmother. Anyone even HEAR of Cochise having a daughter? Want to either disprove or prove this "family legend".

Re: Geronimo's Descendants?

mahytabel — 2009-01-21 22:35:15Z

Collette,

could you possibly email me at mahytabel@yahoo.com? I have a question for you and your email addy listed here is defunct.

Thanks,
Carrie Marsh

Re: My comanche ancestry

JamesYarbrough51 — 2009-01-14 16:39:56Z

You would have to provide some names and more details for anyone to assist.

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

JamesYarbrough51 — 2009-01-12 18:25:44Z

For Your Information - not my line.

The US Supreme Court settled arbitration on land disputes between Texas and Oklahoma in 1923 - it mad rulings regarding land allotments to Comanches.

Philomena Senoya. Allotment No. 3441, Comanche, 1910. W 1/2 of the SW 1/4 of section 36 and the SE 1/4 of the SE 1/4 of section 35, township 4 S., range 16 W.

Name: Philomena Senoya
Date of Birth: 1907
Age: 7
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of Household: Daughter
Father's Name: Senoya
Mother's Name: Louise Matilda
Tribe: Comanche
Reservation: Comanche and Apache
Agency: Kiowa
State: Oklahoma
Last Census Number: 1400
Previous Census Number: 1376
Census Date: 1 Jul 1914
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Senoya 62
Louise Matilda Senoya 52
Alice Senoya 15
Clara Senoya 13
Lucas Senoya 9
Philomena Senoya 7
Margaret Senoya 5
Source: Year: 1914; Roll: M595_214; Page: 53; Line: 10; Agency: Kiowa.

Name: Philomena Elms [Philomena Senoya]
Date of Birth: 1907
Age: 27
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Spouse's Name: Buster
Tribe: Comanche
Reservation: Kiowa Com Ap & Ft Sill Ap
Agency: Kiowa
State: Oklahoma
Last Census Number: 3166
Previous Census Number: 3089
Census Date: 1 Apr 1934
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Buster Elms
Philomena Elms 27
Marian Frances Elma 9
Virginia Leone Elma 7
Neoma Jean Elma 4
Source: Year: 1934; Roll: M595_222; Page: 257; Line: 2; Agency: Kiowa.

Re: Haumpo

JamesYarbrough51 — 2008-12-07 18:27:41Z

Caddo Co. OK - Memory Lane Cemetery
Haumpo, Betty A. 18 jun 1920 04 feb 1977
Haunpo, Wilda 1920 1971

Re: Haumpo

JamesYarbrough51 — 2008-12-07 18:18:23Z

Here are some start points for your research.

Spouse: Bernadine Haumpo
Name: Gary Wayne Boyiddle
Birth: 10/5/1950 (10 May 1950)
Death: 6/1981 (Jun 1981) - Lawton, Comanche, Oklahoma, United States of America
Parents: Jimmie Boyiddle, Mamie Kadayso

Name: Waumpo
[Haumpo]
Home in 1920: Mountain View, Kiowa, Oklahoma
Age: 69 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Oklahoma
Mother's Birth Place: Oklahoma
Marital Status: Married
Race: Indian (Native American)
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Image: 823
Household Members: Name Age
Waumpo 69
Ahpemak 58
Carrie Haumpo 10
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Mountain View, Kiowa, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1467; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 143; Image: 823.

Name: Martin Haumpo
Home in 1900: Apache, Kiowa and Comanche Reservation, Apache, Kiowa and Comanche
Rainy Mountain Indian Boarding School
Reservation, Oklahoma
Household Members: Name Age
Martin Haumpo pupil
Wallace Haumpo pupil
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Apache, Kiowa and Comanche Reservation, Apache, Kiowa and Comanche Reservation, Oklahoma;

Name: Carrie Haunpo
Date of Birth: 1909
Age: 9
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of Household: Daughter
Father's Name: Haun Po
Mother's Name: Ah Pe Mah
Tribe: Kiowa
Agency: Kiowa Indian
Last Census Number: 206
Census Date: 30 Jun 1918
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Haun Po 68
Ah Pe Mah 57
Carrie Haunpo 9
Source: Year: 1918; Roll: M595_215; Agency: Kiowa Indian

Name: Carrie Kaunpahkah
[Carrie Haunpo]
Date of Birth: 1909
Age: 27
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Spouse's Name: Kaunpahkah
Tribe: Kiowa
Reservation: Kiowa Comanche & Apache
Agency: Kiowa
State: Oklahoma
Last Census Number: 1647
Previous Census Number: 1545
Census Date: 1 Jan 1937
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Kaunpahkah 49
Carrie Kaunpahkah 27 (Carrie Waum-Po) Kiowa
Alfred Kodaseet 18
Roxie Kodaseet 14
Wanda May Kodaseet 10
Source: Year: 1937; Roll: M595_223; Page: 133; Line: 2; Agency: Kiowa.

Re: Haumpo

kinggidcrisis — 2008-11-26 00:36:46Z

My grandmother was a said Medicine Woman, and her name was Wanda Haumpo. But that's all I can help you with; whether their linked or not, I cannot say. I came on this site to find geneology myself.

Re: Geronimo's Descendants?

APACHEWE7 — 2008-08-24 20:28:36Z

Hi this is Enriqueta Martinez my research into our family tree is increditable. I found that my family memebers change there names .Look up the letter day of saints family research .They have real records of ou native american search. I have track down the family line and also ancestry has Indian

Re: Geronimo's Descendants?

APACHEWE7 — 2008-08-24 03:30:29Z

Hi ,we did our dna our bloodline is native american. My grandmther name was florence, florencia, she was native her family in white mountain,. She change her name in 1920. Her and my dad change there names .All I know is her family knew her.let me run some other names .She was sold to the mexican in mexico .The rancher name was Toribio lopez Her mother name was Hermegildia . I done know if that her ma. Also gamboa or jemez She said , last names replace. I found my dad with two names E Martinez and Ezekiel Martinez. My dad and my grandmther spoke apache language.

Re: Geronimo's Descendants?

Collette_Wilkes — 2008-08-21 22:42:18Z

Kathy,

None of those names ring a bell in the history that I've got. I'm to the point that I think the stories handed down to my generation were false or wishful thinking.

Thank you for sending me an email. If I run across any of these names, I'll let you know.

Thanks again,

Collette Wilkes

Re: Geronimo's Descendants?

APACHEWE7 — 2008-08-21 16:33:05Z

Hi I am Kathy Martinez, my grandmother is florencia or lancha.She told me about living in white mountain. She claim that Geronimo was her grandfather. She change her last name in 1920. She said they only use one name no last names,but her mother last was gamboa I do not know her real dad name.Toribio , cayetano ,antonia ,apolonia,tiburico,beaulia,lino garcia do you know any of these family?

Re: Ethel Taylor

Rpilletpta — 2008-07-27 04:09:45Z

Im very new to all this but I need answers and this is a shot in the dark. Have you ever heard that sitting bull changed his name to James Henry Hill at any point in his life? This is a story passed down in my family but information is scarce and the family doesn't talk much. Any help would be wonderful. Supposedly he is my great-great-great grandfather. Looking like that is a lot of peoples story though. Anyways...any help would be great. Thanks so much!

Re: Nickerson Family on 1930 Hobart, Kiowa Co., Oklahoma census

JamesYarbrough51 — 2008-07-21 00:28:27Z

All of the below research would require further reasearch:

Janssen Family Tree (Owner: jeffj153)

http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/family.aspx?tid=406143&pid=...

Hiram Isaac Nickerson 38 in 1930
Parents: John James Nickerson & Samantha E. Sawley

Orpha Jane
Parents: Unknown TX & Unknown TX
Birth: 30 apr 1898 texas
Death: 10 dec 1977
married at 16 abt 1914

Timeline
1892 11 Sep Birth Birth Hiram I Nickerson

Alabama

4 historical records
1900 United States Federal Census
1910 United States Federal Census
1920 United States Federal Census
1930 United States Federal Census
1900
Age: 8 Residence

Elliottsville, Shelby, Alabama

1 historical record
1900 United States Federal Census
1910
Age: 18 Residence

Hobart Ward 2, Kiowa, Oklahoma

1 historical record
1910 United States Federal Census
1920
Age: 28 Residence

Hobart, Kiowa, Oklahoma

1 historical record
1920 United States Federal Census
1930
Age: 38 Residence

Hobart, Kiowa, Oklahoma

1 historical record
1930 United States Federal Census
1954 5 Jun Age: 61 Death

Children

Name Sex Birth Ancestry Hints
Orville L. Nickerson View Profile M 28 oct 1914 - OK
Mera Nickerson View Profile F 1917 in Oklahoma - not on 1930 census
Hazel O. Nickerson View Profile F 1921 OK

Name: Orpha Cox
Age in 1910: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Name: James R
Father's Birth Place: Texas
Mother's Name: Birdie
Mother's Birth Place: Louisiana
Home in 1910: Ardmore Ward 4, Carter, Oklahoma
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James R Cox 43 TN UNK MO
Birdie Cox 36 TX LA LA
Mollie Cox 18 OK
Vena Cox 14 OK
Orpha Cox 12 OK
Ola Cox 10 OK
James R Cox 8 OK
Della Cox 5 OK
Houston Cox 13 OK
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Ardmore Ward 4, Carter, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1246; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 45; Image: 842.

Nickerson Family on 1930 Hobart, Kiowa Co., Oklahoma census

oanione — 2008-07-09 21:33:03Z

I do not know if this is where I should post this but maybe someone might know of this family, or maybe someone can send me where I need to post this.

Looking for Hazel Nickerson b. abt 1921 Oklahoma.
She is on the 1930 Hobart, Kiowa, Oklahoma census with her parents Hiram Isaac Nickerson and Orpha Jane Nickerson.
She had a brother Orville L. Nickerson b. 1914 OK., d. 1984 Pittsburg Co, OK Buried in McAlester, OK.
Hiram and Orpha are buried in Deaf Smith Co, TX.

If any can help me with Hazel or her Mother Orpha I thank you in advance.
Joan

great grandmother

KarenMogg70 — 2008-06-22 22:06:06Z

I was told that my great grandmother was Comanche-she was supposedly stolen in a raid by some settlers in a little town named Harkeyville in Texas in the late 1800's-they named her Truelove and she married my great grandfather. I don't know if anyone can help me but would appreciate any information. Thank you, KMogg

Re: Boelen Apache 1909

cynthia_luna_m — 2008-06-18 18:41:41Z

Hi Liz,
I know this thread is a few years old, but i wanted you to know that there are many individuals named Luna that came into the US via border crossing in Laredo TX. My grandparents were among those. Feel free to view my family tree.

cindy

Re: JOJO LANE

angechohawk — 2008-06-05 22:27:14Z

hello I found this while strolling through the web today, my grandmother was marie realrider and was a full sister to JoJo lane. I am very interested in any information you would need. Thank you......

Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

LindaGrindel10 — 2008-04-05 03:09:51Z

Dear Thomas Kavanagh:

You were so kind in answering a question I had back on Ancestry July 13, 2007 about my Comanche family Senoya. I'm still plugging away. I finally found a live person at the Bureau of Indian Affairs in Anadarko to help look up where my grandmother is buried (she died in 1945 at the Lawton Indian Hospital).

I hope I am not intruding by asking this question. My Great Great Grandmother was Louise (or Louisa) Matilda. Her husband is listed as Aldava or Senoya. My question is it possible that the name Louise is a white name and she is a victim of the kidnapping the Comanche's did back in the day? My mother remembers a story of a family member being kidnapped, I cannot help but think this may be the relative. I also wonder if she is German. I doubt I could ever truly find the answer to that question but if you think that the name stands out - I would appreciate your thoughts. I have another family witness who says she saw loads of photos from the "Aldava or Senoya" family with blue eyes and blonde hair.

Thanks so much - I don't bug much - I'll leave you alone after this.

Respectfully yours,

Linda Grindel (ancestry member LindaGrindel10)

My comanche ancestry

Avalon17 — 2008-03-29 03:23:09Z

I'm searching for information on my Comanche grandfather. I'm told he was a medicine man and as far as I know, died in 1924/25 in Kansas or Oklahoma. I was also told that he was married to a Choctaw woman. The had a daughter who would be my paternal grandmother.

Thanks for any guidance.

Re: Cache Creek Mission / Reformed Presbyterian Indian Mission

olderwise1 — 2008-03-21 17:04:54Z

Yes I do live in the area, within 6 miles of both, the mission and the cemetery and have many relatives laying below the head stones. I'm not absolutely sure, but I think the Comanche Nation has taken it upon themselves the responsibility of caring for the up keep of the grounds. If they are I do not know if they are cataloging any data as far as new burials. One phone number 580-595-3300, (one of many Comanche Nations phone numbers) might be of some help as far as inquires go for any info that I just mentioned. They do have many other numbers listed in the Lawton area phone book.

As far as old cemetery records read my first reply again, I explained that in it. The book of records that I've previously mentioned within it may also be at the history center in OKC. I do know that they have a website, but I do not know if they have their library data base available online or not, you'll just have to check it out. Again, good luck.

Re: Cache Creek Mission / Reformed Presbyterian Indian Mission

olderwise1 — 2008-03-21 17:00:26Z

Yes I do live in the area, within 6 miles of both, the mission and the cemetery and have many relatives laying below the head stones. I'm not absolutely sure, but I think the Comanche Nation has taken it upon themselves the responsibility of caring for the up keep of the grounds. If they are I do not know if they are cataloging any data as far as new burials. One phone number 580-595-3000, (one of many Comanche Nations phone numbers) might be of some help as far as inquires go for any info that I just mentioned. They do have many other numbers listed in the Lawton area phone book.

As far as old cemetery records read my first reply again, I explained that in it. The book of records that I've previously mentioned within it may also be at the history center in OKC. I do know that they have a website, but I do not know if they have their library data base available online or not, you'll just have to check it out. Again, good luck.

Re: Cache Creek Mission / Reformed Presbyterian Indian Mission

Irish2Irish — 2008-03-21 04:56:01Z

Thank you for the reply. Since my original post I have met the owners of the land on which the mission stands. I have family in Fletcher and the surrounding area. My dad's family has been in the area since the 1892. I found some information on the mission at the new history center in OK City across from the capital building. Do you live in the area? I am trying to find out who cares for the cemetery and who might have the records.