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Senoya with Comanche tribe

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Re: Senoya with Comanche tribe

Posted: 1184379139000
Classification: Query

Several points:

On a personal (to me) matter, you wrote:

"On the allotment list of 1879-1901..."

There is no "allotment list of 1879-1901." What you have viewed on-line is a compilation *I* made of the census lists, 1879-1899, and the allotments of 1901, and posted on my web site at It has been cross-posted and cross-referenced so many times that the basic credit line to me has been lost (not that I get anything out of it).

Now, to your question:
"On the allotment list of 1879-1901 I found my great grandmother Petra Senoya. ... With Aldove their is a list of three bands he followed: Esananaka, Pahoddy, Carpio.

Senoya was apparently the same as "Aldava." I base that on the same relative positions of "Senoya", ages, sex, etc., on the 1879 and 1880 censuses, and "Aldava" on the 1883 and following censuses. Those censuses are at the Oklahoma Historical Society, microfilm roll KA 1/1a).

Yes Senoya/Aldava was the father.

Petra/Maud Senoya/Aldava was born in 1890; I have her on the 92, 95, 01 census, 01 allotment list, 04, and 05 census.

Esananaka was the son of Paruasemena,'Ten Bears'. When Ten Bears died in 1872, his local group, the Ketahto 'Don't Wear Shoes' split into three: two of his sons, Esananaka and Hitetetsi 'Little Crow', and his grandson, Cheevers. Esananaka and Little Crow died soon thereafter and their people scattered. Many, but not all of Esananaka's people went to his nephew-in-law, Attocknie (married Querherbitty, sis of Cheevers, gd of Ten Bears).

Senoya is listed with Esananaka in 1879 and 1880, with Pahcoddy in 1883, and with Carpio in 1889.

"Bands" had a diminishing role on the reservation as the agents attempted to focus more on individual families. Thus after 1889, the agency censuses did not explicitly list people by "bands" although they are often in the same order as on the earlier "band" lists

I do not have my documents with me here in Lawton (I am spending three weeks here for Homecoming, research, and visiting) so I cannot answer further.

Thomas W. Kavanagh, PhD

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