Alfalfa - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

James Henry Kirby

drahman — 2009-10-11 21:55:36Z

Looking for information about my great-grandfather: moved to Alfalfa county sometime around WWI; apparently atempted to kill his wife, Martha (Mattie) Ann Kirby and was sent to prison; he apparently died at McAlister of pneumonia in 1931. Any info from newpaper articles about events leading to conviction and death - obituary would be greatly appreciated.

Also, obit for Martha Ann Campbell Kirby would be great, if available.

Thanks.

Re: Need to learn how to get a copy of a Death Certificate for the state of Oklahoma

Obits101 — 2009-09-30 07:09:00Z

OK Official State Vital Statistics Office

http://www.ok.gov/health/Birth_and_Death_Certificates/index....

...unfortunately there is no public access to the
vital statistics in the state. Hope this link
helps you out...

Smiley ☺
RAOGK Volunteer

Seek 1975 obituary

DorothySwanson18 — 2009-09-28 23:57:09Z

Would appreciate the obituary of Thomas Steve who d. Oct. 1975 at Carman(?) Alfalfa Co. Ok. Thank you so very much. Dorothy

Re: John Dunbar PATTERSON

goldbug41 — 2009-09-23 04:18:12Z

Where did you get the parents name for Lovina (Price)Patterson. I have been looking for years and found nothing. Of course I have just gotten back on this site lately and found your message. I haver been trying to locate the Parents of Lovina and would like to know if you have any dates of theirs like birth, death, marriage, etc to assist in my search.

Thank you in advance for any information you can give me.
I am a Great, Great Great grandson of Lovina. My name is Jerry Pattterson.

Need to learn how to get a copy of a Death Certificate for the state of Oklahoma

scmfstewart — 2009-09-12 04:07:52Z

Does Oklahoma have a state archive were you can call up and track down a death cert? then pay for so they can scan it & email it?

Specifically I am looking for Daniel S Westfall dob 16 Sep 1868 in Missouri and dod 5 Nov 1947 possibly in Olkahoma,near Carmen Alfalfa co. Need to get and obit an death cert any help with either would be grateful.

Thanks,

Scott,
Eugene,OR

Re: Crawford, Wanda (b.1926) Cherokee, Oklahoma

feliciagrunewald — 2009-09-06 17:04:55Z

Are you still looking for info on Wanda? She was my grandmother.

David L. Williams & Family Information

kinseeker125 — 2009-08-30 19:24:41Z

David L. Williams & Family Information

David L. Williams (Son of Absalom, Grandson of William b. 1760)
Born: 27 June 1834 Preble Co, OH
Died: 28 April 1910 Saline Co, MO
Buried: Antioch Cemetery, Saline Co, MO
Married: Leah C. Valentine on 3 June 1855 Henry Co, IN
Born: 28 February 1835 Henry Co, IN
Died: 27 January 1916 Driftwood, Alfalfa Co, OK

Children:
James A Williams
Born: 7 November 1856 Madison Co, IN
Died: 13 April 1939 Harper Co, KS
Married: Emma A. French on 4 Aug. 1878 Sweet Springs, MO

Jesse M Williams
Born: 26 February 1858 Madison Co, IN
Died: 28 May 1924 Harper Co, KS
Married: Anna Scott Elliott on 28 Mar 1880 Saline Co, MO

John C Williams
Born: 4 January 1860 Madison Co, IN
Died: 27 June 1925 Driftwood, OK
Married: Sarah M. Evans on 5 Nov 1882 Ottawa, KS

William L Williams
Born: 4 January 1860 Madison Co, IN
Died: 27 October 1918 Silverdale, KS
Married: Lucy C. Province on 25 Mar 1882 Saline Co, MO

Joseph B Williams
Born: 25 January 1862 Madison Co, IN
Died: 16 June 1944 Manchester, OK
Married: Iona A. Bennett on 3 June 1892 Winfield, KS

Emily F Williams
Born: 30 September 1866 Madison Co, IN
Died: 18 January 1926 Wichita, KS
Married: Henry F. Rather in Jan 1888

Thomas T Williams
Born: 30 September 1868 Warrensburg, MO
Died: 21 April 1944 Jet, OK
Married: 1) Ola Ama Pierce on 15 February 1897
2) Ollie K. Mitchell on 31 July 1930

Andrew S Williams
Born: 4 October 1874 Sweet Springs, MO
Died: 2 March 1937 Enid, OK
Married: Alice E. McKown on 18 Sept 1897 KS

Nora Caroline Williams
Born: 5 February 1878 Sweet Springs, MO
Died: 2 May 1966 Pond Creek, OK
Married: John C. Halcomb in 1895 KS

Ernest C: Williams
Born: February 1887 Idaho

Note: Children of David and Leah Williams -- David Ellsworth, Elvira Leona, Albert, Isaac Newton, and Charles Henry did not survive childhood.

Several descendants of this family have done DNA testing and are in Williams DNA Group 8. The group has a Williams DNA blog which includes this family as well as many of the ancestors of the participants in Group 8. The furthest back ancestor of DNA group 8 is Charles Williams who died in 1692 in Charles City County, Virginia.

The blog address is: http://williamseekers.blogspot.com

The Williams DNA web site is an extensive and informative site containing many Williams lines, it also has great information about DNA testing. The Williams DNA project now includes over 700 members, making it one of the largest. The address is:
http://williams.genealogy.fm/index.php

Surnames: Williams, Valentine, Elliott, Province, Evans, Bennett, Rather, Pierce, McKown, Halcomb

For more information please reply to this message.

Thanks,

Kin_skr at yahoo.com

Re: william dyson b. 1640, spouse Elzabeth Ayers

lookout05 — 2009-08-27 21:40:00Z

I did not find your William Dyson listed nor Elizabeth Dyson listed in The alfalfa County cemetery records. I will look in Woods county cemetery record tomorrow for these names.

Re: william dyson b. 1640, spouse Elzabeth Ayers

marthmyers — 2009-08-26 11:10:21Z

I will try and do some research on this for you in the next 3 or 4 days. Marty Myers

W OK Home for white children...family search

S_Wassil — 2009-08-26 06:20:00Z

Greetings - I'm searching for family (Taylor kids) and anyone that I know were associated with during/after their stay at the orphanage..I have a pic of the Taylor kids in front of orphanage 1927

Gwinnie (Gwendolyn) Taylor
HenryEtta Taylor
Harry Kelly Taylor
William Harcourt (Corkie)Taylor, Thomas
Kenneth Leon Taylor adopted by D Thomas of Perry
Josie (Josephine) Taylor married Vernon Hubbard;
Dora Taylor
Henry Lee Taylor(died at 16 yrs)
Virgil Dean Taylor
Raymon (Ramon)adopted by McDaniels who owned cement/construction Co
Roxie (HenryEtta's friend) married N McClamore

The baby that was wisked away in adoption allegedly did not want contact with family as he felt they had abandoned him...but I have proof that my g-ma tried.

If anyone can provide additional information, it would be greatly appreciated...

william dyson b. 1640, spouse Elzabeth Ayers

jamesdyson_1 — 2009-08-24 06:28:00Z

searching for parents

Re: McCord Cemetery/???marriage lookup please

marystuart70 — 2009-08-20 16:29:40Z

Thank you Marty, will e-mail you right now!
Mary

Re: McCord Cemetery/???marriage lookup please

lookout05 — 2009-08-20 11:19:21Z

I don't charge to go to the court house. I go there about once a month to do look-ups. It is easy on probates, marriages as the has the names on roladex. Send me a E mail and I will send you the cemetery information.
martymyers@sbcglobal.net

Re: McCord Cemetery/???marriage lookup please

marystuart70 — 2009-08-20 03:59:01Z

Thank you very much Marty for your informative reply and kind offer. I would love to have the cemetery info on Robert and Eliza. As to going to the court house, please don't make a special trip since I don't have the $$ to reimburse you.

Thank You Again,
Mary

Re: McCord Cemetery/???marriage lookup please

lookout05 — 2009-08-19 21:44:11Z

I didn't find your McCords in the cemetery records. I did find Eliza M. and Robert Summers McCord. If you would like details about these let me know.
I can check the marriage records at the court house if you would like.
Marty Myers Alfalfa County CC

McCord Cemetery/???marriage lookup please

marystuart70 — 2009-08-18 04:29:09Z

Am trying to find out if Naomi Ruth McCord died and is buried in Alfalfa Co., or if she married there and moved off. She is on the 1910 census in Alfalfa Co.
Her brother Howard W. McCord, also on the 1910 census in Alfalfa Co., is said to have died in 1918, am trying to find out if he died and is buried (?where) in Alfalfa Co.
Any help greatly appreciated.

Thank You,
Mary

Re: Frank Frieden of Burlington, OK (ACC Church)

LindaFrieden — 2009-07-26 22:48:13Z

I see this request was made a while back (okay a looonnnnggg while back) but my husband is a decendent of Samuel, Frank's brother.

If you are still looking for information I have found some.

Linda

Re: Rosedale Cemetery

lookout05 — 2009-07-08 21:40:57Z

I have found other information for you. if you will email me martymyers@sbcglobal.net I will email the info to you.

Looking for Fay Gaskins

mhcharles — 2009-02-12 02:36:17Z

Fay Gaskins was the daughter of L.D. Gaskins and Opal Keller Gaskins. In the 1920 census Fay was living with her maternal grandparents Joseph R. Keller in Alfalfa Co., OK. Any information about Fay Gaskins would be appreciated.

Pictures

NGUZIEC — 2009-03-16 19:48:34Z

I have been going through all of my "antique photos" and have run across several that don't pertain to my family. They are ones that were given to members of my family. If anyone is interested, they may contact me privately and I will be glad to share copies.

There is a group photo taken around 1930 with names on the back as follows:
Fred Roemer
Llucille Rocklus
Mrs. Zinse
Miss Butcher
Miss McQuire
Barbara Cook
Sidelle Ellis
Loretta Newman
Ona Donahue
Beulah Tucker
Mr. Manning
Miss Wallin
Evelyn Brudas
Catherine Gehring
Miss Elliott
Vyrla Ingram

I have two photos of the following:
John K. Franklin
Marlene Bouen

I also have individual professional portraits of the following (all taken around the late 1920s):
Cecil Dodd
Ewing Valentine
Jesse Campbell
Marjorie Peck
Lillian Dobson
Edna Arganbright (2 different pics)
Carolyn Radke
Carolyn Radke Cross
Herbert Cavett
Dorothy East
Elizabeth Plaskett
Daisy Bell
Phil Rogers
Carrie Arganbright
Adrian Vincent
Francis Van Osdol
Irene Campbell
Forrest Black
Glen Page
Rachel Downing
Mary Dain

I also have the memory card from the funeral of Mildred Bowling.

Cheers, Nancy Guziec - TX
nguziec@tx.rr.com

Rosedale Cemetery

nantee — 2009-07-07 13:37:46Z

I am looking for a death date for Leonidas Fletcher Starks. He is purported to be buried in the Rosedale Cemetery in Parsons, Alfalfa County Oklahoma. Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you Nancy

Re: Rosedale Cemetery

nantee — 2009-07-08 19:16:18Z

Marty thank you so much. I so appreciate you doing this for me.
Nancy

Re: Cherokee's cemetery (found it for sure)

gnphllps — 2009-01-25 23:06:12Z

I'm pretty sure they are the same cemetery. I've emailed the keeper of the webpage at okcemeteries.net to see what she thinks. I see that some of the names from her website are on both the findagrave lists.

Re: Cherokee's cemetery (found it for sure)

gnphllps — 2009-01-25 21:23:04Z

Try this one, forgot to change the coordiantes
http://atlas.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=decimal&a...

Re: Cherokee's cemetery (found it for sure)

gnphllps — 2009-01-25 21:15:07Z

I tried mapquest and I found it. It's where I said it might be in the previous message.
http://atlas.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=decimal&a...
It's labeled on the map.

Roads of Oklahoma

gnphllps — 2009-01-25 21:12:42Z

Before anyone asks, the book I mentioned is no longer in print. The company that published it sold it's atlas book line to the same company that publishes the Delorme Atlas & Gazetteer. I have one of the Delorme atlases and it doesn't mark cemeteries and the detail is nowhere close to being as good. I think they bought them out just to kill the competition.

Re: Cherokee's cemetery

gnphllps — 2009-01-25 21:03:18Z

First off, anyone can put anything they want on findagrave.com with out any proof. I looked around at a few places and the only site I could find that had a cemetery for Cherokee was
http://www.okcemeteries.net/alfalfa/cherokee/cherokeem.htm
It's called Cherokee Municpal by them.
I have an atlas "The Roads of Oklahoma" In it cemeteries are marked with a symbol. There is one near Cherokee that is not on the USGS index. If you go 1 mile south of town and 1-1/2 miles east. It's on the north side of the road.

Re: Cherokee's cemetery

lookout05 — 2009-01-26 16:11:34Z

Cherokee, Alfalfa County Oklahoma cemetery is located one and half miles east of Cherokee, Ok.
There is only one name for the cemetery. Cherokee Municipal Cemetery. There is a portion of the cemetery for Catholic burials. I have a index of burials both Sir name and given name and the Alfalfa County Oklahoma Cemetery book. this book was published in 1993. Our library has obits from about 1998. The Libray does not do look-ups.
I have not read any of the other respones so don't know what information you have gotten.
I am always glad to help anyone with lookups.
Marty Myers Alfalfa County Coordinator Ok gen web.

Re: Seek obituary

lookout05 — 2009-02-08 12:31:05Z

I will look for this obit when I go to do research sometime this month.
Marty

Re: Rosedale Cemetery

lookout05 — 2009-07-08 11:34:27Z

I find your Starks buried in Rosedale cemetery Alfalfa County
Starks Leonidas F May 29 1863- July 6 1914.
I will snd you more information a little later today.
Marty

Re: Cherokee's cemetery

lookout05 — 2009-04-14 12:16:49Z

OOPs I forgot to send my e mail address
martymyers@sbcglobal.net

Re: Cherokee's cemetery

lookout05 — 2009-04-14 12:13:30Z

I am going to put you in touch with Leonard Passwater's wife by private e Mail.
Marty Myers

Re: Photos from Ingersoll

lookout05 — 2009-03-17 12:21:03Z

Yes I would be interested in fact I would be thrilled to get the copys. If you want to scan them and send them e mail that would be great also.
Either way is fine.Thanks a bunch.
martymyers@sbcglobal.net
Marty Myers 218 W. 8th Cherokee, Ok. 73728

Re: Augusta

lookout05 — 2009-03-23 11:28:19Z

If you go to this site there is a story about Augusta and Carmen.
Augusta did move and the name was changed to Carmen because it was on the railroad.

http://digital.library.okstate.edu/encyclopedia/entries/C/CA...

Holmden family

JeannineHarber81 — 2009-02-02 15:15:18Z

Frances Holmden Brockus Russell was my step grandmother. She was the daughter of Philip Holmden and Sena Schooley
She had 3 sisters, Bessie (Buck), Josephine, known as Josie, and Edith. I am trying to find the married names of Josie and Edith. Any help appreciated.

Jeannine Harber

Re: Thomas Jefferson Hicks - Kansas & Oklahoma

Parashont — 2009-06-16 15:22:27Z

Hi Debbi,

I'm so sorry to hear of your loss! I just tried emailing you privately with information, but it bounced back. Do you have a new email address I can use? Stay strong!

Shari

Re: Cherokee's cemetery

Wilene — 2009-01-26 16:41:38Z

Thank you so much, Marty. And "Municipal" it is. I was sure it was but wanted to double-double-check before bringing the problem up to Find A Grave for them to fix the two separate listings by combining them into the correct name. I'm adament about details, I guess because my name is so uncommon.

Re: Cherokee's cemetery (found it for sure)

Wilene — 2009-01-26 00:19:23Z

Hmmmm! How interesting. I hadn't thought to look at the actual names on the one, then compared to the other one. Anyway, I think we've proven that they are one and the same and it's up to Find A Grave now to merge them and list only the one with the correct name. We'll see how that goes this next week. Thanks again.

Re: Cherokee's cemetery (found it for sure)

Wilene — 2009-01-25 22:44:04Z

Thank you so much for all your time and help. The links you sent, especially the one that took me directly to that cemetery's listing (http://www.okcemeteries.net/alfalfa/cherokee/cherokeem.htm)
was the proof I needed along with an idea I had to go with it.

It's not that anyone can post at Find A Grave (I've been busy doing that for the past several days), but that the same cemetery is listed with two different names, and with the details for each that I enumerated in my first query.

So now I'm waiting for Find A Grave to merge the two cemeteries into one with the correct name. Only then will I post my uncle (a WW I veteran) & his two wives.

Again, thank you so much for all your time.

Cherokee's cemetery

Wilene — 2009-01-25 15:03:40Z

My records have the name of the rather large cemetery in Cherokee as the "Cherokee Municipal Cemetery" which is (as I remember) the way it is identified in the cemetery transcription book published (date?) by (who?) which I have looked at but didn't photocopy any page.

Those of you familiar with the Find A Grave site online will find TWO listings for a cemetery at Cherokee, Alfalfa County, Oklahoma -- Cherokee Memorial Cemetery, and Cherokee Municipal Cemetery.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=csr&CScn=c...

The "Memorial" cemetery currently has 211 listings and a photograph of the entrance on the main page.

The "Municipal" cemetery has 10 listings and no photograph of the entrance.

So I checked the U.S.G.S. website and called up all cemeteries listed in Alfalfa Co., OK, and was shocked to discover that NO cemetery by any name is registered by them at Cherokee, and I know for a fact that this is not a small country cemetery by any definition.

Before I bring up this subject to the Find A Grave people to ask them to merge the two cemeteries into one, I thought I should first ask the question here to be sure of the correct name and for clarification. It always complicates things when an entity has an "official" name but is popularly referred to by another name as is probably the case here.

I'm posting this to the RootsWeb Message Board for Alfalfa County which will also go out to the Alfalfa County e-mail list that I'm not subscribed to so please, please respond privately or on this Message Board.

Anxiously awaiting a knowledgeable response so I can alert the Find A Grave people, then create pages for my uncle and his two wives at Find A Grave.

Re: Titus Family

CHIEFBEAR — 2009-05-31 14:18:42Z

Andrew Jackson Titus is my 2nd great grandfather. We are the Titus that are in Texas. OUr family cemetary is Savannah Cemetary between and Avery and Anonna Texas. HIs father was James Titus, and his father was Ebenezer Titus from Davidson County Tennessee.

Re: Photos from Ingersoll

JenniferTrahan1 — 2009-03-18 02:28:12Z

I've posted the photos here.

Photos from Ingersoll

JenniferTrahan1 — 2009-03-16 02:48:23Z

My great-grandmother, Hassie Proffitt, graduated from Ingersoll High in 1925. I have photos of her with her classmates, the girls' basketball team, and a high school graduation program. Names written on the back of of the photos and in the graduation program are Ramona Madison, Madge Speardemire, Fannie Andrews, Beatrice Ellis, Carl Weigand, Ruby Counts, Lotus Warehime, and Pearl Wheeler. Please let me know if you are interested and I will send copies.

W H Owens Maud Koontz Theopa Jerrold

cathyconnelly151 — 2009-04-10 10:49:30Z

Any info on Maudie kounce married Wyatt Hamilton Owens born 1891 KY. Son Gerald/Jerrold Owens missing over burma in WW2. Daughter Theop;a. Gerald left a wife and daughter. Recently his plane was found. Looking for family to give info to.
Cathy Connelly, TX

Seek obituary

DorothySwanson18 — 2009-02-06 01:15:06Z

Would appreciate the obituary of Thomas Gooch who d. Oct. 1975 at Carmen, Ok. Thank you so very much. Dorothy

Re: Thomas Jefferson Hicks - Kansas & Oklahoma

brlove — 2009-05-29 19:28:44Z

hey shari
i found you again great. hey i lost all of the info you sent m e on our family the hicks , i also wondered if you got any info on cora mae..i could sure use it. i had a house fire it took everythingihad.and the lives of my petkitties.

debbi

Re: re: Odd Fellows Orphanage, Carmen, Alfalfa Co., OK

dgranny10 — 2009-04-17 03:00:45Z

My grandfather was at the home in Carmen in March of 1922. thanks for the number I'm trying to get information about the roster of residents from this time. Mrs. Gibson

Augusta

mhayes788 — 2009-03-21 20:24:12Z

Does anyone know about Augusta, Ok. It was 2 miles West of Carmen, near where the old (removed long ago) railroad track was. It had come and gone before my time. Grandpa, Sylvester "Frank" Terrel, owned the land west of the old railroad, North of Hwy 45. Every time they plowed, they dug up old chunks of cement.

Did Augusta blow away in a storm, or just dwindle away when the railroad moved east to Carmen?
Marsha Terrel Hayes mhayes@cgtelco.net

sarah ann hanks spacy

medleysharon35 — 2009-04-21 13:57:47Z

this person was my gg grandmother .

Re: Cherokee's cemetery

deweber_1 — 2009-04-14 11:57:21Z

Hi Marty,
Stumbled upon your post and have a question for you.
If your local library does not do lookups for obits, how would someone go about getting an obit? I am in CA and looking for obit on Leonard Roy Passwater (Sr.) who dies in Cherokee about Oct 2006. Would like to know where he is buried and if any other Passwater members are buried near him.
Thanks for any assistance you might be able to provide :-)
Dawn