Thank you for your reply, I have seen that 1860's census and have gone back to it many time but just don't know. Smith is a tough name to track. Williams death certificate lists parents as unknown. As for his wife, Sarah, I have a lot of info on her family. Many years ago I was in touch with a "Smith" cousin who stated they were married in Mercer Co. PA in 1877, I haven't been able to find any record yet.