1820 census--James Husband--Question for the census experts
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Re: 1820 census--James Husband--Question for the census experts
| drdx (View posts) | Posted: 5 Jul 2008 2:40AM GMT |
Classification: Query
That is Jackson Twp. The old enumerators would sometimes not start a new page when going to another township which confuses many of the census image suppliers. Heritage Quest shows this page as being Jefferson Twp be we know just by the people on that page that it is Jackson. Ancestry does identify that page as Jackson.
Yes I now see what could be James Husband 2 lines above Isaac Dove. The problem is the name looks like it is written with a lower case "h". Compare it to the name Hardesty a few lines above it. It doesn't look the same. But, the name Hampleton some lines below it also looks to be written the same way so yes I would say this is a James Husband.
I doubt you will get the name changed in any of the indexes. The published hard copy indexes are written in stone forever. I have never had any luck even getting Ancestry.com to acknowledge any requests for more information on their indexes so good luck there. Heritage Quest is more apt to make a change. They seem more responsive to user requests but again, it may take a long long time so is it worth it? Probably not. Sure it would be nice to have everything agree with your genealogy. It sure would make it easier for others researching those names but the reality is that everything is subjective and others may see something else and obviously did when they indexed that page.
Heritage Quest's index lists him as James Mushan. Ancestry lists him as James Amsbary. Two completely different set of eyes and two different results. Remember these people don't have your or my perspective and have no idea who these people were or should be. If you want to have some control over all this, volunteer to be a census transcriber for one of the USGenWeb Census project (actually not affiliated with USGenWeb but they use their name anyways). You can do as little or as much as you want. I have tried getting people to volunteer to transcribe township census records for years and no one has volunteered yet but this is the only way that we can get realistic indexes as people transcribing those townships who actually have an idea of who those people are stand a better chance of getting it right than someone who has no investment in the location or people. I transcribed the census records for Salem and Monroe townships for 1820-1850 and my familiarity with the families helped tremendously in deciphering some of the names that were very faded or otherwise mangled.
Bottom line is all you can do is try to contact these services and request a change. You may luck out and find someone who may actually do it.
On the subject of the land records, many of the early inhabitants of the farming communities actually leased land and didn't show up in any of the records. Tax and census records are usually the only source that shows they were there. You may try some of the civil court records, not probate. Civil cases may be anything from non-payment for a service to a business dispute sort of like our small claims court. There is a wealth of genealogical information in there as they sometimes identified people in the proceedings as father and son or some other relationship.
Good luck on your search and in trying to get anyone to change those index listings! If you want to volunteer for any of the census transcription opportunities, email me privately and I will get you hooked up!
Yes I now see what could be James Husband 2 lines above Isaac Dove. The problem is the name looks like it is written with a lower case "h". Compare it to the name Hardesty a few lines above it. It doesn't look the same. But, the name Hampleton some lines below it also looks to be written the same way so yes I would say this is a James Husband.
I doubt you will get the name changed in any of the indexes. The published hard copy indexes are written in stone forever. I have never had any luck even getting Ancestry.com to acknowledge any requests for more information on their indexes so good luck there. Heritage Quest is more apt to make a change. They seem more responsive to user requests but again, it may take a long long time so is it worth it? Probably not. Sure it would be nice to have everything agree with your genealogy. It sure would make it easier for others researching those names but the reality is that everything is subjective and others may see something else and obviously did when they indexed that page.
Heritage Quest's index lists him as James Mushan. Ancestry lists him as James Amsbary. Two completely different set of eyes and two different results. Remember these people don't have your or my perspective and have no idea who these people were or should be. If you want to have some control over all this, volunteer to be a census transcriber for one of the USGenWeb Census project (actually not affiliated with USGenWeb but they use their name anyways). You can do as little or as much as you want. I have tried getting people to volunteer to transcribe township census records for years and no one has volunteered yet but this is the only way that we can get realistic indexes as people transcribing those townships who actually have an idea of who those people are stand a better chance of getting it right than someone who has no investment in the location or people. I transcribed the census records for Salem and Monroe townships for 1820-1850 and my familiarity with the families helped tremendously in deciphering some of the names that were very faded or otherwise mangled.
Bottom line is all you can do is try to contact these services and request a change. You may luck out and find someone who may actually do it.
On the subject of the land records, many of the early inhabitants of the farming communities actually leased land and didn't show up in any of the records. Tax and census records are usually the only source that shows they were there. You may try some of the civil court records, not probate. Civil cases may be anything from non-payment for a service to a business dispute sort of like our small claims court. There is a wealth of genealogical information in there as they sometimes identified people in the proceedings as father and son or some other relationship.
Good luck on your search and in trying to get anyone to change those index listings! If you want to volunteer for any of the census transcription opportunities, email me privately and I will get you hooked up!