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Re: Albert W Lake

SUE92846 — 2013-05-05 20:05:08Z

I am not related to this family in any way.

Contact this person for more info:
Andie Stringfellow E-email address: Astringf@aol.com

I also found:

1880 United States Federal Census
about A. W. Lake

Name:

A. W. Lake

Age: 38

Birth Year: abt 1842

Birthplace: Ohio

Home in 1880:

Liberty, Fulton, Indiana

Race: White

Gender: Male

Relation to Head of House:

Self (Head)

Marital Status: Married

Spouse's Name:

Mary J. Lake

Father's Birthplace:

Virginia

Mother's Birthplace:

New Jersey

Occupation: Farming

Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

Household Members:

Name Age

A. W. Lake 38

Mary J. Lake 32

Laura E Lake 12

Nora Ann Lake 10

Rachel E. Lake 6

L. Laurence Lake 5m

1870 United States Federal Census
about Albert W Lake

Name:
Albert W Lake
Age in 1870: 27
Birth Year: abt 1843
Birthplace:
Ohio
Home in 1870:

Henry, Fulton, Indiana
Race: White
Gender: Male

Post Office: Akron
Value of real estate:

Household Members:

Name Age

Albert W Lake 27

Mary J Lake 22

Laura E Lake 2

Nora A. Lake 2/12

The family is also found in Henry, Fulton, Indiana the same year. Apparently, they moved during the taking of the census.

1860 United States Federal Census
about Albert Lake

Name: Albert Lake

Age in 1860: 17

Birth Year: abt 1843

Birthplace: Ohio

Home in 1860:

Sugar Creek, Hancock, Indiana

Gender: Male

Post Office: New Palestine

Value of real estate:

Household Members:

Name Age

Thornton Lake 52 (Virginia)

Elizabeth Lake 43 (Pennsylvania)

Albert Lake 17

U.S., Civil War Draft Registrations Records, 1863-1865
about Albert W Lake

Name: Albert W Lake

Residence: Sugar Creek, Hancock, Indiana

Class: 3

Congressional District: 6th

Age on 1 July 1863: 20

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843

Race: White

Place of Birth: Warren, Oh

I presume you have the 1900 census. If not, let me know. I'm having a lot of trouble finding them in the 1850 census, but I'll keep looking.

Re: Albert W Lake

barbdale_1 — 2013-05-05 04:08:14Z

Did you mean to post on the Lake surname board?
http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.lake/mb.ashx

Anyway, I found a promising family for your Albert. In the 1860 census for Hancock County, Ohio, there is an Albert Lake age 17, son of Thornton and Elizabeth
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M4FP-367
Thornton's birthplace is given as Virginia, which would match, because West Virginia was not a state yet, and it was carved out of Virginia.
The 1840 census, which only lists head of household, has a Thornton Lake in Salem, Warren County Ohio
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHRJ-YP6
I also found this marriage for a James W. Lake, son of Thornton in Hancock County Indiana- I wonder if it could be a brother of Albert's.

I will see if I can find more. I have not yet found Thornton or Albert in 1850.

Albert W Lake

tylerblake0 — 2013-05-04 19:51:38Z

I have been searching for months trying to find the parents of Albert W. Lake born Mar. 1842 Ohio- 1909 he married Mary J. Morgan born Mar. 18, 1848 Indiana -Sept. 29, 1904. All that I know about his parents his that his father was born in West Virginia and his mother was born in New Jersey. If you have any info. on his parents please respond.

Re: McSweeney family of Painesville - Need info please

sean_macsuibhne1955 — 2013-05-04 19:10:47Z

And the reason McSweeney was used was that Bill Sweeney wanted to go back to the more Irish way of Sweeney..we did him one even better and legally changed ours to it's Irish spelling!

Re: McSweeney family of Painesville - Need info please

sean_macsuibhne1955 — 2013-05-04 17:57:22Z

Saretia's mother was Florence Eddy daughter of Royal Eddy and Candace Young (daughter of John Young Brigham's older brother...Your Loretta was daughter of Francis John Sweeney son of Patrick Sweeney and Margaret Butler both of Ireland but the family lived in an area of the eastside of Cleveland, Ohio called Bluestone back in day because of the stone mined there.. Patrick was the son of Michael Sweeney and Briget McCart both of Ireland..lived mostly in Cleveland but owned land in Euclid..have maps and such.

Re: McSweeney family of Painesville - Need info please

sean_macsuibhne1955 — 2013-05-04 17:57:03Z

Re: McSweeney family of Painesville - Need info please

sean_macsuibhne1955 — 2013-05-04 17:39:07Z

Hi Donna! I must be a cousin..Loretta Sweeney was my father John Patrick's sister, one of them. Please contact my wife, she's the genealogist. Loretta was born to John Francis Sweeney and Saretia Millis..lots of info on both including the link to the Brigham Young family and the Sweeney's of Co Donegal..Please use this address for contact. I have early pictures to her and Stanley too Cleveland Ohio
barkupthetree@yahoo.com
Thanks Sean and Cindy MacSuibhne

Re: McSweeney family of Painesville - Need info please

thomasker2 — 2013-05-04 12:37:51Z

I’m not related to any member of this family.

1940 is the last available census at this time.

Pennsylvania, U.S. Naturalization Originals, 1795-1930
Name: Stanley Pawlowski
Birth Date: 18 Feb 1905
Birth Location: Poland
Arrival Year: 1907
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Western District, Pennsylvania

1930 -
Name: Loretta Pawlosky
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1906
Birthplace: Ohio
Race: White
Home in 1930: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
View Map
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Stanley Pawlosky
Father's Birthplace: Ohio
Mother's Birthplace: Ohio
Occupation:
Age at first marriage: 17
Parents' birthplace: OH/OH

Stanley Pawlosky 28, Poland - Age at first marriage: 21
Parents' birthplace: GER/GER
Loretta Pawlosky 24, OH -
Bennabelle Pawlosky 4, OH
Margaret Mary Pawlosky 2, NEBRASKA
Stanley Pawlosky 1, OH

1940 -
Name: Stanley Pawloski
Respondent: Yes
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Poland
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: Dunkirk, Chautauqua, New York
View Map
Street: E Third Street
House Number: 114
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: Dunkirk, Chautauqua, New York
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 9B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 180
Occupation: Heater
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 8
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 4th grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 15
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 50
Income: 965
Income Other Sources: No

Stanley Pawloski 37, Poland
Lauretta M Pawloski 34, OH
Bonnabell Pawloski 14, OH
Margaret Pawloski 13, NY
Stanley Pawloski 12, OH
William E Sweeney 21, OH - b/inlaw

1910 -
Name: Lorella M Sweeney
[Loretta M]
Age in 1910: 3
Birth Year: abt 1907
[1907]
Birthplace: Ohio
Home in 1910: Willoughby, Lake, Ohio
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father's Name: Frank J Sweeney [AKA = John is the middle name]
Father's Birthplace: Ohio
Mother's Name: Saretia Sweeney
Mother's Birthplace: Ohio

Frank J Sweeney 43, OH
Saretia Sweeney 28, OH [poor handwriting by census taker makes the "L" look like and "S"
Margaret F Sweeney 7, OH
Edward F Sweeney 5, OH
Loretta M Sweeney 3, OH
John P Sweeney 8m, OH

Re: Suschak Obit request

loretta1948 — 2013-05-03 22:08:55Z

I wasn't able to find his obit in the Morley Obit Index, however, I did find it at the Cleveland Public Library Index at http://www-catalog.cpl.org/CLENIX You can email the Cleveland Public Library at microform.center@cpl.org and give them the following information for his obit
SUSCHAK, CHARLES W: Husband of Tessie A-Obit
Plain Dealer 15 Dec, 2010, pg. 9 sec. B
Give them your email address and they will email it at no charge.

Re: Suschak Obit request

SUE92846 — 2013-05-03 17:14:32Z

Email to:
genealogy@morleylibrary.org

They will email it back to you in a couple of days and charge you a dollar which you are to snailmail back to them.

Suschak Obit request

7vette4 — 2013-05-02 22:40:39Z

Looking for an obit for Charles W Suschak B 1931 in Pa died 12/10/2010 in Willowick, Ohio (Eastlake, Lake, Ohio)

Re: Lucy/Lara Green

rrathens — 2013-04-18 11:44:06Z

Follow this link to browse telegraph issues:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=7GbmjkRdlf4C&d...

If no death notice, look at the first few months of the following year. Often there were necrology articles listing the dead for the year.

Many lake county residents were covered in Geauga County newspapers

Lucy/Lara Green

greenefamily7 — 2013-04-18 08:20:58Z

I am searching for information on Lucy/Lara? Green, she was born in Painesville Ohio around 1854/1855 to Willard and Joyce (Joysey) Green. I know she is buried by Joysey Green at Evergreen cemetery. I have a death date of 31 March 1887 in Painesville Ohio. I would like to find an obit for her, she died at only 33 years old and I do not believe she was married. Any information would be great.

Re: Augustine or Augustus Warner

rrathens — 2013-04-18 02:20:19Z

Notice of Augustus Warner's death in the painesville telegraph:
http://grins.freeservers.com/lake_wa-wb.htm
This can be obtained by following the links on this site.

You can also contact Morley Library for the dates and look up the notice yourself on the images:

Link to images of painesville telegraph
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=7GbmjkRdlf4C&dat=1...

Was this a Madison twp family? Warner homes still standing there. They are beautiful. My great grandmother lived in one of them.

Don't forget that family search has Geauga and Lake probate records digitalized and on their site. You can see if he had been probated if you hadn't already.

Re: Willard Green

greenefamily7 — 2013-04-12 14:09:56Z

Yes it does-thank you again

Re: Willard Green

NealWRobertson — 2013-04-12 10:28:43Z

Yes, the site is on Google. Address is;
http://news.google.com/newspapers#C

There is also a National archives site located at;
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/newspapers/

Hope this helps!

Re: Willard Green

greenefamily7 — 2013-04-12 01:44:15Z

thank you so much where do you find these? I need to find 1911, 1887,1874, 1875 1895 and 1933. Is there a site for this?

Re: Willard Green

NealWRobertson — 2013-04-11 19:06:17Z

The death notice came from the Painesville Telegraph March 8, 1899, front page column 4.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=7GbmjkRdlf4C&dat=1...

Re: Willard Green

NealWRobertson — 2013-04-11 18:58:49Z

Teri Green-Hoover has created a memorial (#106986558) for Willard Green on the Find A Grave Web Site. She would probably be a good source of information.

"Ohio, Deaths and Burials, 1854-1997"
Name: W. S. Green
Gender: Male
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Death Date: 18 Mar 1899
Death Place: Painesville, O
Age: 81
Birth Date: 1818
Birthplace: Ross, N. Y.
Occupation: Carpenter
Race: White
Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B05185-2
System Origin: Ohio-EASy
GS Film number: 974914
Reference ID: p 24

I am of no relation to this person.

Willard Green

greenefamily7 — 2013-04-09 19:48:30Z

I am looking for information on Willard Green born 1818 in New York died in Ohio 18 March 1899 in Painesville. He was married to a Joyce or Josey ? not sure of her maiden name. He was the son of Adolphus Green. His birth mother was Sally Roderick and he was the step son of Elethear. Any information would be great.

McSweeney family of Painesville - Need info please

Pooziej — 2013-04-08 14:21:44Z

I am trying to find information on Loretta McSweeney born Painesville, Ohio about 1906. According to her marriage record (found in Dunkirk N.Y. Apr. 13, 1925 to Stanley Pawloski) her parents were Jack McSweeney & Larita Miller.

I have had no luck finding Loretta's parents in Ohio. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Donna

Re: John & Martha Youhas

haw68 — 2013-03-20 20:02:24Z

Rhonda,

John Youhas is my great-grandfather and I do have some information on him. Please e-mail me directly at haw68@yahoo.com and I will share what I have.

Thanks,

Heath White

Re: Help Please! surname ESTERHAY - Ohio

smithnyc26 — 2013-03-11 19:38:58Z

Thank you so much. Fantastic!

Re: Help Please! surname ESTERHAY - Ohio

barbdale_1 — 2013-03-11 02:41:47Z

Here is the link to their marriage record at familysearch - it does include their parents names
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18084-128520-99?c...

Re: Help Please! surname ESTERHAY - Ohio

barbdale_1 — 2013-03-11 02:10:47Z

I would start by doing a general search at www.familysearch.org - there are several records about his family. The records likely to have his parents names would be his marriage and death records. Do you know when he married Rose?
This looks like her obit - you might try contacting the church to see if you can research the older records, their marriage may be there. Some churches don't allow it, but it is worth a try.

PLAIN DEALER (CLEVELAND OHIO) MARCH 27, 1967 PAGE 18
EARLY HUNGARIAN IMMIGRANT DIES
Mrs. Anton Easterhay, 75, one of the early Hungarian immigrants to settle in Fairport Harbor, died Saturday night at Lake County Memorial Hospital in Painesville.
Mrs. Easterhay, who lived at 607 High street, came to the United States and settled in Fairport Harbor in 1906. The village is largely a Hungarian and Finnish community.
She is survived by her husband, four sons, two daughters, and two sisters.
Services will be at 2 P.M. Wednesday at the Hungarian Reform Church in Fairport Harbor.
http://hrcfairportharbor.org/

Help Please! surname ESTERHAY - Ohio

smithnyc26 — 2013-03-10 23:49:44Z

I am trying to find the names of my great grandparents. My grandfather was Anton Esterhay, born 1888 in Hungary and came to U.S. about 1913. He settled in Fairport Harbor, Ohio (wife was Rose).

I can't seem to find anything except census records. How do I find out who his parents were.

Thank you so much,
Linda
smith_nyc@yahoo.com

Re: OBITS FROM TELEGRAPH

bearmom106 — 2013-02-18 17:40:27Z

Linda if you go to www.morleylibrary.org on the left side it says Genealogy, click on that and there is a link for obituary index. You can search for the names you want, then click on save search. send that list to the email listed and they will send you either paper copies or electronic copies for a dollar an obit. I have found tons of information that way.

Re: Hildebrandt, Hildebrand, Hillenbrand

loretta1948 — 2013-02-16 23:13:49Z

According to Philip's death certificate (see attached), Margaret's maiden was Hettrick.

In the 1910 census, the family was living in the same house with a John Hillenbrand and family. Also living with John were two other Hillenbrand men named Joe and Casper, recent immigrants from Germany. Possible relatives of William Hillenbrand (Hildebrand/t)???
According to Casper's naturalization papers, he was born in Waldberg Germany. If you can make a connection between Casper and William, you may have a birthplace for William.

Further searching in the naturalization records show that John was also born in Waldberg, Germany.

Good luck. I hope this information is helpful.

Re: Hildebrandt, Hildebrand, Hillenbrand

thomasker2 — 2013-02-13 21:59:05Z

I’m not related to any member of this family.

1940 is the last available census at this time.

U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Phillip Hildebrandt
City: Cleveland
County: Cuyahoga
State: Ohio
Birthplace: Cleveland, Ohio
Birth Date: 6 Jan 1896
Race: Caucasian (White)
married + child

1900 -
Name: William Hildenbrand
[William Hillenbrand]
Age: 29
Birth Date: Jun 1871
Birthplace: Germany
Home in 1900: Cleveland Ward 7, Cuyahoga, Ohio
[Cuyahoga]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1887
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Maggie Hildenbrand
Marriage Year: 1893
Years Married: 7
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany
Occupation:

William Hildenbrand 29
Maggie Hildenbrand 27, 12/72 PA - 2 children
Edgar Hildenbrand 6, 12/93 OH
Phillip Hildenbrand 4, 1/96 OH

1910 -
Name: William Hillenbrand
Age in 1910: 39
Birth Year: 1871
Birthplace: Germany
Home in 1910: Cleveland Ward 11, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1887
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Maggie Hillenbrand
Father's Birthplace: Germany
Mother's Birthplace: Germany

William Hillenbrand 39, GER - laborer
Maggie Hillenbrand 37, PA
Edgar Hillenbrand 16, OH
Phillip Hillenbrand 14, OH

1920 -

marriage record -
Cuyahoga County, Ohio, Marriage Records and Indexes, 1810-1973
Name: Mr Phillip Hillenbrand
Marriage Date: 23 Nov 1915
Form Type: Marriage
Age: 19
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1896
Birth Place: Cleveland, Ohio
Father's Name: Wm
Mother's Name: Margaret Hetrick
Spouse's Name: Miss Barbara Menge
Spouse's Age: 20
Spouse's Birth Year: abt 1895
Spouse Father's Name: Wm
Spouse Mother's Name: Philomene Mahler

1920 -
Name: Phillip Hildebrand
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Ohio
Home in 1920: Cleveland Ward 24, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Barbara Hildebrand
Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes

Phillip Hildebrand 24, OH - factory salesman
Barbara Hildebrand 24, OH
Robert Hildebrand 3, OH

1930 -

1940 -
Name: Barbara Hildebrand
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Ohio
Marital Status: Widowed
Relation to Head of House: Mother
Home in 1940: Shaker Heights, Cuyahoga, Ohio
View Map
Street: Kenyon Road
House Number: Down 16815
Inferred Residence in 1935: Shaker Heights, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Residence in 1935: Shaker Heights, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 10B
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: No

Robert Hildebrand 23, OH - supervisor for retail drugs
Carl Hildebrand 19, OH - office boy for construction co.
Barbara Hildebrand 43, OH - widowed mother [looks like Phillip either divorced Barbara or walked out on her]

marriage record -
name: Philip W. Hildebrand
titles & terms:
event: Marriage
event date: 08 Aug 1922
event place (standardized): Lake, Ohio, United States
event place (other):
age: 26
estimated birth year: 1896
birth date:
birthplace: Cleveland, O.
father: Wm. Hildebrand
father's titles & terms:
mother: Margaret Heawig
mother's titles & terms:
spouse: Anna M. Eggert
spouse's titles & terms:
spouse's age: 24
spouse's estimated birth year: 1898
spouse's birthplace: Painesville, O.
spouse's father: Carl Eggert
spouse's father's titles & terms:
spouse's mother: Augusta Patskier
spouse's mother's titles & terms:

Milton Sinclair death 1912, Tuscola Co, Michigan

TrischHall — 2013-02-12 13:14:42Z

SeekingMichigan.org death certificate online,

Milton H Saint Clair,
b. 14 Dec 1830, VT,
d. 2 Aug 1912, Juniata twp, Tuscola Co, Michigan,
widowed,
father Milton Saint Clair, b. VT,
mother Mary Kelay, b. VT,
removed to Perry, Lake Co, Ohio, for burial

Re: CUTLER Family

TrischHall — 2013-02-12 13:08:24Z

Sandy McSpadden,

David Cutler family moved to Tuscola County, Michigan. Are you still researching Cutler line?

TrischHall@centurytel.net

Re: OBITS FROM TELEGRAPH

ljwatson — 2013-01-07 23:02:48Z

-Click my link
-Click SIGN IN at top right
-Choose create new account
-Choose family search account
-Fill in all blanks and create user name and password and then click REGISTER at bottom of page.
If that doesn't work for you I don't know.

Re: OBITS FROM TELEGRAPH

LINDA_BUKKY — 2013-01-07 22:11:18Z

i tried to set up an account but it would not let me.
any ideas that might help me get into it?
i guess i need step by step.
thanks

Hildebrandt, Hildebrand, Hillenbrand

autiger1997 — 2013-01-07 18:18:51Z

I am trying to trace my father's mother's family. They were the Hildebrandts and I have very little information to go on and have not been able to find anything-I hope someone can help me! My gg grandfather was William Hildebrandt and he married a woman named Margaret-they had a son Phillip Hildebrandt he was born 6 Jan 1896 in Cleveland and died Jan 1951 in Cleveland. He had 2 children with a lady named Barbara. Carl "Pat" and Robert were the children he had with Barbara and then he mariied Anna Eggert born March 1898 in Painesville OH and died July 1958 in Painesville. Anna is my g grandmother and the mother to a still born son and my grandmother Phylis Louise born 12 Oct 1930 and dies 19 Oct 2005 both in Painesville- she married Clyde Robert Colgrove. I would love any information anyone may have-I have been told they came from Germany and this is all the information I have. Thank you so much!

Re: OBITS FROM TELEGRAPH

ljwatson — 2013-01-06 21:34:08Z

I will look them up for you or you can find them here yourself. You will need to create an account.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/show#uri=http...

Re: OBITS FROM TELEGRAPH

LINDA_BUKKY — 2013-01-06 21:20:08Z

thank you, can you get other death certificates from cleveland if i gave you a persons name.

Re: OBITS FROM TELEGRAPH

ljwatson — 2013-01-06 18:11:39Z

Death certificate attached here. If you have any problems reading it I can email it to you.

Re: OBITS FROM TELEGRAPH

LINDA_BUKKY — 2013-01-06 12:41:36Z

NO I DON'T HAVE IT BUT WOULD SURE LIKE TO.
THANKS

Re: OBITS FROM TELEGRAPH

ljwatson — 2013-01-06 05:01:27Z

Do you have the death certificate? I did find that online if you don't have it.

Re: OBITS FROM TELEGRAPH

LINDA_BUKKY — 2013-01-05 15:29:56Z

WAS HOPING FOR MORE INFO, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
THANK YOU FOR THE HELP.

Re: OBITS FROM TELEGRAPH

ljwatson — 2013-01-05 04:58:34Z

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=7GbmjkRdlf4C&dat=1...
C.O. Simmons is Dead
Private services were held Thursday for Clinton O. Simmons, 64, father of Bill Simmons and Mr. Bruce Forsch of Painesville, who died in a Cleveland hospital. Mr. Simmons formerly resided here.

OBITS FROM TELEGRAPH

LINDA_BUKKY — 2013-01-04 11:17:43Z

I WOULD LIKE IF SOME ONE WOULD LOOK UP TWO OBITS FOR ME.
FLORENCE SAARI-IN 5 JUNE 1983-PAGE A10 AND CLINTON O. SIMMONS-29 APRIL 1938-PAGE 1.
THANK YOU

Re: Walter Bittig

tracfone28 — 2012-12-31 22:07:35Z

Bertha had a farm on Route 150, between West Sand Lake and East Schodack. It was directly opposite the entrance to Biittig Road.
For a time, Walter's father had a house near 3rd dyke road on Burden Lake road. My Grandfather Oswald Biittig pointed it out to me. Oswald was the second son of Walter. Walter had 9 boys and 1 girl. On Christmas 2012 the last son, John, died, and he was buried today. Kay, the surviving sibling is the only daughter.

Re: Augustine or Augustus Warner

Triciay65 — 2012-11-07 15:17:19Z

As for all the info you provided on the censuses, I am familiar with all that. Thanks.

How can Lucinda Sharp's last name be Marshall??????????
Can you explain????????????
Need her DOB + birthplace........
~~Born Oct 2 1802. I have not found a definitive place of birth. I have seen it as NY in one census and PA in another. Her death record states NY. On her death record, her father's surname is listed as Sharp. I have other records that list it as Marshall. I suspect she may have been married once before, but I have not been able to prove that. On the other hand the family tree my cousin is working on, he states her father's full name was Jacob Sharp Marshall. Either way, I have searched all the possible name combinations and have not been able to find anything.

You wrote - "He is buried next to a son and the parents to his daughter in-law". Need son's 1st name + DOB and d/inlaw's 1st name + DOB. Need d/inlaw's parents names + DOB's
~~Augustine Warner died 1863. buried next to his son, Orlando Warner born 1826 in NY, died 1895 in Ohio.
In-laws names buried next to Augustine= Joshua Park born in Ct 1764 and died in Ohio 1856. Aurana born 1770, unsure where and died 1842 in Ohio.

Augustine and Lucinda Warner had a daughter named Eliza/Elizabeth born 1828 and died 1911 in Grand Rapids, MI. She married Timothy Park (son of above Joshua and Aurana)in 1843 Ohio. He was born in 1804 Mass and died ca 1864 Ohio. I have not found a stone.

You wrote - "She left Ohio after his death and moved to MI."
Where did she go in MICH????
~~ Eliza later married Trumble C Young ca 1866 in Ohio. The couple, along with Lucinda, moved to Grand Rapids, MI and that is where Lucinda died.

Re: Augustine or Augustus Warner

Triciay65 — 2012-11-07 15:04:23Z

No, she died in 1899 Grand Rapids, Kent county, MI
Thanks:-) I already have her death certificate.

Re: Augustine or Augustus Warner

thomasker2 — 2012-11-07 14:34:59Z

Is this the correct Lucinda -s

death record -
YOUNG, LUCIND A.
Date of death: 10-Sep-1873
Ledger Page: 213
Record Number: 1687
Place of death: Gaines
County of Death: Genesee
Sex: Female
Race: WHITE
Marital Status: Married
Age: 66 years 5 months 1 day
Cause of Death: TYPHOID FEVER
Birthplace: NEW YORK
Occupation: HOUSEKEEPER
Father's Name: Unknown,
Father's Residence: DEAD
Mother's Name: UNKNOWN,
Mother's Residence: DEAD
Date of record: 30-Jun-1874

Re: Augustine or Augustus Warner

thomasker2 — 2012-11-06 22:10:23Z

I’m not related to any member of this family.

1940 is the last available census at this time.

Facts you should know about the early census records -
All census records [1790 – 1840] prior to the 1850 census ONLY listed the head of household; whether male or female.

NO specific age was stated for any family member
NO place of birth was stated – city, state, or country
NO city, town, or village is stated – only the county; however some census takers listed the township
NO street address was stated
NO marital status was stated – single, married, widowed, or divorced
NO family relationship was stated – brother, sister, cousin, son, daughter, wife, inlaw, etc…
NO occupation was stated
NO parental birthplaces are stated
NO race was stated [but assume “white”]

1850, 1860 & 1870 census records do not show family relationships, marital status or parental birthplaces.

Step children are not enumerated as “step” children
Adopted children are not enumerated as “adopted”
Grand children are not enumerated as “grand children”
Orphaned children were not enumerated as "orphan"

1850 is the 1st census that shows all family members

1880 is the 1st census that shows parental birthplaces and family relationships +++

How can Lucinda Sharp's last name be Marshall??????????
Can you explain????????????
Need her DOB + birthplace........

You wrote - "He is buried next to a son and the parents to his daughter in-law". Need son's 1st name + DOB and d/inlaw's 1st name + DOB. Need d/inlaw's parents names + DOB's

You wrote - "She left Ohio after his death and moved to MI."
Where did she go in MICH????

Re: Steamer G.P. Griffith tragedy

DBreniser — 2012-11-05 22:34:43Z

Good luck with your quest. There are some good libraries here, Morley in Painesville has the Telegraph, Willoughby library has the News Herald (I'm not sure about 1850) both on microfilm. Western Reserve Historical Society in Cleveland is great and has many sources.

Hope you find something!
Deb

Re: Steamer G.P. Griffith tragedy

chrismartin6970 — 2012-11-05 13:52:11Z

This story is going to be death of me!! :) I have researched it for so long and have so much information from the event in my head that I sometimes blab out something a little wrong. So you are correct about Balthazar Best. He and Johnny Rhodes Miller seem to be the only two that are ever spoken about... I have newspaper clippings of the day and days after it happened that quote a couple happenings of children surviving. The one that interests me, speaks of a 2 or 3 year old boy, completely dry, floating on something and being rescued. I would like to think that this is my G. Grandfather. I just wish I could pin down someone alive today that was told a story of their ancestry taking in a boy from the Griffith. I will continue my quest! I plan on taking a trip next spring to the site of the disaster and hitting up the local libraries. I would love to run into a local historian or two, as well.

Thanks a lot for your input and interest. I never tire of the search! I guess you could say this is my addiction. My Grandfather was 8 when his Dad, John A. Martin died. He had memories of his father, but mostly learned of his past through his older brothers and Mom. She lived until 1960 and my father got to spend a lot of time with her. The stories are amazing about his life. I won't even go into her family, unless you want to be bored for about 7 hours. Her last name was Cole. Yep, the Cole's from Plymouth Mass. They were there just after the mayflower and the actual burial ground for the first settlers from the Mayflower are buried on Cole's Hill. My 8th G. Grandfather was James Cole. Anyway! Thanks again for your input!

Re: Steamer G.P. Griffith tragedy

DBreniser — 2012-11-05 12:42:40Z

I love a mystery, no relation.

I did a little research and found that the Balthasar Best you mentioned did not die in the Civil War. His friend, (Jacob Kleinschmidt)who's family took him following the Griffith disaster, did die in the Civil War. Matbe you can find his family?

There are still questions regarding the survivors of the ship, all records were lost in the fire. But what I have seen they state no children were saved and only one woman (the barbers wife) survived. This site is short history of Balthasar Best, it certainly seems he was on the ship: http://clevelandcivilwarroundtable.com/articles/biography/ba...

I haven't found anything on your Johnny Rhodes. Your Martin Albert Martin was an interesting man. Do you had a name of his real parents? If he was truly born in England 1849 and was on the Griffith 1850 you might be able to pin it down?

Good luck hunting, I'll keep my eyes open.
Deb Breniser