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Re: Eliza Martin & Valentine Motsinger

Carol  (View posts) Posted: 21 Mar 2004 9:31PM GMT
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I have a copy of the actual "ending" will of James Martin and his estate. It mentions all of Elizabeth Motsinger's children and the estate was equally divided after some controversy between the intermediate family. Elizabeth did pass on 09/01/1886. I have devoted much of my family research in the Motsinger surname since 1998. I would like the Valentine and Eliza argument set straight once and for all. Eliza's surname was indeed Martin; however, early in my research, I found documentation that led me to believe she was a Weavil. This was believed because of the Moravian influence that I felt led Valentine Motsinger to join the congregation. This has been found to be untrue. Daniel, as you refer to in the will is the next to the youngest child of Eliza and is very sick at the time the final will is proven in open court of Forsyth County. Daniel dies 6 months after the will is fulfilled. The Martin family was very wealthy and, I must say, had very "high standards" for each family member. Eliza did not see justice while living, but her grandchildren and great grand children and great great children still carry on the legacy and the standards still live and are not forgotten.

Valentine and Eliza were a match set. This couple went beyond the boundaries of family and fellow neighbors to bring forth a family of their own. If you are lucky and you find relation to the two, remember only this: Family branches can break when storms arise; winds will blow and throw out the false. The heart will always ring true, if you look hard enough. It's not enough to look for names and dates, if your heart is truly in it. Don't forget the life, it still lives.

Valentine Motsinger=1/20/1826-10/04/1898
Elizabeth Martin Motsinger=04/10/1831-09/01/1886

Re: Eliza Martin & Valentine Motsinger

BLH46  (View posts) Posted: 29 May 2006 11:39PM GMT
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Elisa Martin Motsinger's sister was Nancy Martin Holder (married Jesse Holder). Nancy died in 1914. Death certificates states father James Martin and Nancy Matthews, both of Guilford County, NC.

Re: Eliza Martin & Valentine Motsinger

BLH46  (View posts) Posted: 29 May 2006 11:50PM GMT
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Spencer Martin & "Raemy" Freeman were married in Wake County NC, March 28, 1827.

Re: Eliza Martin & Valentine Motsinger

BLH46  (View posts) Posted: 29 May 2006 11:56PM GMT
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Eliza's sister, Nancy Malinda married Jesse Holder. Nancy died in 1914; death certificates states parents as James Martin and Nancy MATTHEWS both of Guilford County, NC.

Re: Eliza Martin & Valentine Motsinger

Sylvia Hamm, NB,Canada  (View posts) Posted: 26 Jul 2006 9:59PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: MOTSINGER, HAMM
Hello from Canada. Do you have a connection to Elizabeth MOTSINGER who married Christian HAMM ? She was d/o Felix MOTSINGER. Christian was bro. to Jacob,jr & Andreas(who came here to NB 1783). I am seeking more info on my HAMM line from NC.

Re: Eliza Martin & Valentine Motsinger

Stephanie  (View posts) Posted: 27 Jul 2006 2:35PM GMT
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Hi Sylvia

I didn't mean to interrupt a Motsinger inquiry, but aren't you my long lost cousin from Canada? I descend from Charles Berger/Barrier of
Rowan/Davidson County, NC.

Chas was first on record in Rowan Co in 1759....both on a tax list and a militia list. His first wife was Yunes (Eunice) (Deed) and his second wife was Johanna (Will). His daughter Barbara Barrier married an Andrew
Hamm and removed to Nova Scotia.

In the past, I have been in touch with Lorrie Glantz but also another lady from Nova Scotia. I am afraid I can't remember the lady's name from Nova Scotia but she gave me a lot of good information.

bye
Stephanie



Re: Eliza Martin & Valentine Motsinger

cyberquilter  (View posts) Posted: 25 Sep 2006 8:26PM GMT
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Carol, If you are still out there, I would love to talk with you about the James Martin of Forsyth Co. I believe this James is my ggg grandfather via my gg Mary Ann (Martin) Hitchcock. Would it be possible to get a copy of the last will of James Martin? Are you sure Spencer Martin was his father? Any relation to Col. Jack Martin of Rock House? My Martins lived around Walkertown/Martin east of Winston-Salem I believe. My Hitchcocks lived in the Deep River District, Stokes and some are buried in Love's Methodist Church graveyard in Walkertown. My Mary Ann married in Stokes 12 Sept 1837 and went off with her husband, Elisha Hitchcock into the wilds of Western Tennessee. She raised eight children and I believe had a good life. Any information you can share about James Martin and his family would be greatly appreciated. I tryed to email you, but you have changed addresses. Nancy
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