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Re: Gregory/O'connor

tesspremo52 — 2013-05-18 20:50:10Z

Do you know who Julia O'Connor's parents were.

Re: MILLER

chas0413175 — 2013-05-13 19:20:36Z

Kathy: Thanks so very much. Your information solved 2/3 of the puzzle. Now if I could only find Harold Larue Miller.
Thanks again, Charlie Martin

Re: MILLER

Kathydon217 — 2013-05-13 02:12:03Z

Obit
Clara L Welling
Widow of Richard Black
d 17 Sep 1937 Saranac
Mother of Mrs Harold Larue Miller
Burial at Oakwood Cemetery--Troy New York

This may connect

Kathy

Re: MILLER

Kathydon217 — 2013-05-13 01:42:55Z

Obit for Dorothy
Mrs John Stahl Woodhouse
Former Dorothy Black Miller
d 15 Jul 1963
Daytona Beach Florida
survivrd by
Husband
1 daughter-Virginia
3 Grandchildren

Kathy

MILLER

chas0413115 — 2013-05-12 17:18:50Z

Researching LaRue Miller who was married to a Dorothy Black
They had a daughter, Dorothy V. Miller.
The 1930 Census showed them in Saranac Lake, Franklin Co., but in the 1940 Census, Dorothy was married to a J. Stahl Woodhouse with LaRue nowhere to be found. {Died?};
Dorothy was the mistress at the local Nursing Cottage.
Need any info on Larue. Death, burial?
Also any marriage info on daughter, Dorothy V..

St. Regis Reservation surnames

karenhenry100 — 2013-04-28 03:26:00Z

I am trying to find more info on my GG grandmother who was born on the St. Regis reservation about 1837. I have seen her surname a number of ways so bear with me. She was Margaret LaMay (Lamee, Lahmie, LeMay) and married Carlos Broadwell who was living in Fort Covington as the son of a fisherman about 1858. The names and approx dates were taken from vital records of their children, as well as a one line mention in a published Broadwell genealogy. Any helpful advice is much appreciated.

Re: Moses Richards Family

Grianne333 — 2013-04-16 11:11:02Z

I have looked at that one. Possibly. Thank You.

I was talking to a co-worker and the time line he said to look into rail road construction. Thus far haven't found much. He mentioned that they (rail road) bought out land and even force ably took it. I can't find Nicholville Rd and trying to find where the street was.

Thank You again.

Re: Moses Richards Family

Grianne333 — 2013-04-16 11:10:52Z

Charles George Gappell AKA "Sarge Cole"

llapage_1 — 2013-04-15 19:51:34Z

I am searching for the final whereabouts of my great uncle Charles G. Gappell, from Malone, NY who went by the alias of "Sarge Cole". He was born in 1896 and in the mid 1920s-1930s, he drove long distance automobiles, often handcuffed to the steering wheel, to demonstrate the endurance of the particular auto brand. He also claims to have been in Hollywood as a stuntman, and as a trainer. He was a lifeguard in Rockaway Beach, Long Island, NY around 1920 or so. I have him in newspaper articles until the early 1930s and then can not find him anywhere after that. He must've settled somewhere, had neighbors, some sort of income, been buried by someone in some town?! He does not show up on the 1930 or 1940 census that I can find as he travelled around alot and gave his mother's address in Malone as a permanent address. In her obituary in 1935, it lists him as living in South Carolina but I haven't found anything with that info. I don't know if he continued to go by Sarge Cole or ever went back to his given birth name. He even fathered a child in Ohio and the hospital has him as Sarge Cole! If you've ever come across an old newspaper article, found belongings in an old attic or garage sale, or know of this individual (he may have married again, tho' he left 2 previous wives "abandoned"!), please contact me...he's one of my mystery ancestors! Thank you, LLaPage

Re: Moses Richards Family

Kathydon217 — 2013-04-15 01:39:06Z

Possibility

1925 New York State Census Dickinson

Richards Moses 54 b Canada
Richards Nellie wife 52 b US

Ploof Road

Kathy

Re: Moses Richards Family

Kathydon217 — 2013-04-15 01:18:44Z

Do you have the 1905 and the 1915 New York State Census for this family?

In 1915-dated 1 June only 6 children are listed--
Joseph
Francis
Clifford
Delia
Charley
Willie

1905 wife's name is listed as Sarah
1915 wife's name is listed as Salma
1910 wife's names is listed as Alice

Kathy

Re: holmes family chasm falls,

j22551 — 2013-04-15 00:25:48Z

Great to hear from some family.My father was Allen Holmes
Born near Owls Head Mnt.In 1927 to Hollis and Magdalenna Holmes.I also have photos and a family history pack my email
is j2255@yahoo.com and again thank you

Re: Moses Richards Family

Grianne333 — 2013-04-14 16:14:08Z

1906 is Clifford.
1907 is Delia.

Francis - I have marrying Dorothy Wright. No children. They owned a home in Camillus. He passed away in 1988 - her 2006. I have visited their grave sites. According to a newspaper article he moved to Syracuse in 1923. Although he did work in a lumber yard in Cranberry Lake.

Do you have a link to that certificate?

Re: Moses Richards Family

Kathydon217 — 2013-04-14 15:52:16Z

A few things I found

Born to Mr and Mrs Moses Richards
17 Jan 1906-son
17 May 1907-daughter
__________________________________________
I also found a marriage for Francis Richards who I think may be the right Francis but it doesn't agree with your tree--I find them in the 1925 census in Syracuse but can't seem to find them after that

Marriage-15 March 1924 Cranberry Lake

Francis J Richards
Residence-Cranberry Lake
Age-21 born-Dickinson Center
Father-Moses J Richards
Mother-Salma May Richards

Ethel L Monterville
Residence-Cranberry Lake
Age-18 born-Windfall??
Father-James Monterville
Mother-Emma McCaffrey

Kathy

Moses Richards Family

Grianne333 — 2013-04-14 14:01:18Z

I am a descendant of Moses Richards Sr and Moses Richards Jr from Dickinson, NY. They owned farmland on the Nicholville Rd.

I am first looking for information on Moses Richards Jr and his wife Alice. Moses being born in 1870 in Canada, came to the US in 1872. I have a few newspaper articles concerning barn fire in 1899, selling the farm in 1907 (not sure if this is Sr or Jr's farm) and the vacant home being burglarized in 1916.
What I am looking for is what happened between 1910 and 1915 and beyond, along with any information on Alice. My Great Grandfather, William Dorey, was born in 1913 and adopted around 1915. I have the family in the 1910 census, then Moses on a 1920 census in Boston without his wife or any children. Moses is back in Malone, Franklin County on the 1940 census as an inmate at the Franklin County Welfare home on the South Bangor Rd. This is where I lose him. I have his death prior to 1948, but not sure when. I lose Alice as of the 1910 census and do not have a maiden name for her.

My Great Grandfather is 1 of 7 children. I know at least 2 that were adopted out. He stayed in the area and was adotped by Joseph and Eva Burnett Dora. Delia Richards was sent out on an adoption train to MO, kept her last name. Francis Richards ended up in Syracuse after being placed on a farm in St. Regis Falls. Charles Richards died in Wolcott, NY. Joseph (b.1903), Clifford (b. 1906) and John (North Lawrence, NY, b. 1914) I have no further information on. If they were adopted their last names may have changed. William, Francis, John, and Delia were able to find each other and connect over the years.

Re: hello

Grianne333 — 2013-04-13 23:37:02Z

George is my 2nd Great Grand Uncle. He is the only sibling I have found of my GG Grandmother's Clarissa Laflesh. She married George Montroy. Any information on this family woudl be helpful.

I have some information, but not a lot.

Re: holmes family chasm falls,

Grianne333 — 2013-04-13 17:34:17Z

Abijah & Bertha are my 3rd Great Grandparents. Descendant of Oscar Holmes - his son Newell Holmes.

You can find them with obit information on findagrave - -

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=95...

I also have newspaper articles, family members, and some photos on my ancestry tree.

Re: Looking for info on Frank & Rosalie (Lamica) O'Brien of Malone

Grianne333 — 2013-04-13 16:41:11Z

They are cousins of mine on the Lamica side.

According to census records they had at least 3 children - all girls. Rosalie's parents - Philip Lamica and Bercelium "Lillie" Dugas. Philip's parents - Louis Lamica and Elizabeth Reed - both from St. Ours/St Roque Quebec.

Re: gertrude morin

LynetteJusten55 — 2013-04-02 12:29:59Z

Thanks so much for finding that out. That answered my question. We have someone in our family that was adopted in August 1921 but could not find the birth mom. That counts her out.

Re: gertrude morin

LynetteJusten55 — 2013-04-02 12:29:39Z

Thanks so much for finding that out. That answered my question. We have someone in our family that was adopted in August 1921 but could not find the birth mom. That counts her out.

Re: gertrude morin

barbdale_1 — 2013-04-01 23:42:03Z

Thank you for looking that up and clarifying the date, I don't know where I got 1926 from! I removed the date from my prior post, to not confuse anyone!

Re: gertrude morin

barbdale_1 — 2013-04-01 23:37:46Z

Okay, I think I found something. I don't subscribe to Ancestry, but you can search for free. I put in Gertrude Morin, born Ohio, 1901-1903. The first thing on the page was a marriage for a Gertrude Jeanette Morin to a Cecil Jocelyn Eden in Summit County Ohio.
I found them here in the 1930 census, but then lose track of Gertrude.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X7SP-Z8X
In 1940, Cecil is listed as married with children Cecil and Elizabeth (must be the Marie from 1930), but no sign of Gertrude.
http://interactive.ancestry.com/2442/m-t0627-01876-00038/797...

Re: gertrude morin

Kathydon217 — 2013-04-01 02:39:47Z

I checked Ancestry and the marriage was 14 Jun 1920-Summit County-Ohio

Gertrude Jeanette Morin
Age 18 as of 28 Jan 1920 [1902]
b Columbus Ohio
F Fred Morin
M Elizabeth Menard
_________
Cecil Jocelyn Eden
age-31 as of 29 Oct 1920 [1889]
Residence Akron Ohio
b Grand Cayman BWI
F Theodore Eden
M Mary Webster

Kathy

Re: gertrude morin

barbdale_1 — 2013-03-31 23:09:43Z

Elizabeth married Joseph Berger, not Justen. I wanted to know the name so that I could see any clues in the 1920 census. Also, Gertrude was listed in the census as Gertrude Berger, so she could have continued to use that name, or Morin.
There are a couple methods I use to find a woman when I don't know if they married. One is to search the social security death index by birthdate and first name. Unfortunately, I found some of her siblings birthdates at familysearch, but not Gertrudes.
The other way is to look for obits for her siblings, that may mention her. I have looked in some newspapers, but not had any luck yet. You might put a query on the Hillsborough county board, to ask if someone will look for an obit for Wilbert Morin, who died in April 1984 - sorry I cannot find an exact date. You also might consider putting obit requests for Joseph and Elizabeth Berger in Franklin County, Ohio, as they may mention where Gertrude was in that year. Joseph's death date was May 10, 1926 in Florida, and Elizabeth died November 2, 1926 in Ohio.

Re: gertrude morin

LynetteJusten55 — 2013-03-31 21:40:35Z

It was her mother Elizabeth that married Joseph Justen. I am looking on info about Elizabeths daughter, Gertrude.

Re: gertrude morin

barbdale_1 — 2013-03-31 01:29:29Z

Okay, I was confused because your previous post said she married a Justen.

Re: gertrude morin

LynetteJusten55 — 2013-03-30 20:39:02Z

I do know that Gertrude was in Tampa in 1920 as a nurse trainee, but can not find her any place after that. That is what I am looking for.

Re: gertrude morin

LynetteJusten55 — 2013-03-30 20:36:20Z

That is correct. She died six months before Joseph and her family took her up to be buried with her first husband, Alfred Morin. They had many children of their own. Joseph had Euremia and was taken care of by his son in Tampa until he died. He was then taken back to Ohio to be buried by his first wife.

Re: gertrude morin

barbdale_1 — 2013-03-30 18:23:12Z

I notice that Gertrude is listed twice in 1920, once with her family, it says she is a nurse trainee. Then she is also listed in Tampa, as a student nurse at Plant Park Hospital.

Re: gertrude morin

barbdale_1 — 2013-03-30 18:18:10Z

Something is not adding up. This appears to be the death certificate of Elizabeth Morin Berger, father's name Charles Maynard. This Elizabeth Berger is connected to Alfred Morin as his wife, and is buried in Lockbourne.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XZL4-VK9

If you go to her link on findagrave, you can see the actual certificate
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=80...

Is this who she was married to?
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FP3J-8M1

Re: gertrude morin

LynetteJusten55 — 2013-03-30 12:38:53Z

She married Joseph Leo Justen Sr around 1912. Both died in 1926. He in Hillsborough Co.Fl in Nov. and she prior to that in April or May. He had been married to Louisa Henrietta Schmitt until her death.

Re: gertrude morin

barbdale_1 — 2013-03-30 01:50:43Z

What was her Mom's second married name? Also, you will probably have better luck posting on either the Franklin County Ohio or Hillsborough County Florida boards.

Re: INFO

harrymann29 — 2013-03-29 16:29:00Z

also looking for imfo Charles Ghostlaw DOB 1886 DOD 1930's Died of TB northern NY Ogdensburg had 4 daughterS

Tks
Harry

Re: PROSSER

patpwales — 2013-03-24 22:43:14Z

Fascinating story! Wish it were my Prossers!

My GreatGrandfather Joseph Prosser also came from Wales; guesses are Monmouthshire or vicinity... I haven't been able to find when he came to the US (although he was in Pennsylvania in 1860) so I can't make the connection to his family of origin.

Joseph Prosser was born about 1829, emigrated to Pennsylvania, evidently living first in the Minersville area, moving to Scranton, then to Ohio, where both he and his wife Mary Ann (Morgan) Prosser died. They left at least 3 children, William Byron (my grandfather), Joseph Burns Prosser, and a latecomer, Cordelia. The three children were sent to the Soldiers' and Sailors' Orphanage in Philadelphia. There may have been another daughter, or Cordelia may have also been listed as Mary at one time.

gertrude morin

LynetteJusten55 — 2013-03-23 17:31:44Z

I am interested in what happeded to Gertrude Morin after 1920 census of her Hillsborough Co., Fl. She was from Franklin Co., Ohio until her mother married and moved her and Wilbert to Florida. Mother died in 1926 and taken back to Lockbourn, Ohio to be buried with first husband, Alfred. She was daughter of Alfred and Elizabeth Morin born around 1902, along with many siblings. Any info is appreciated.

Re: Looking for info on Frank & Rosalie (Lamica) O'Brien of Malone

aurina — 2013-03-22 19:21:03Z

www.nnyln.net go to historic newspapers, search county of your choice carefully-creatively-articles such as
chateaugay-record-1958-november-1961-august - 0130.pdf
...ctor, Adrian H. Wood, at Chateau- *ay Central School, 2951. FRANK O'BRIEN DIES Frank O'Brien died In Melons last Friday evening after a long illness ...

being aware of course that those are very common names in the north country-make sure u have the correct families- -

Re: Looking for info on Frank & Rosalie (Lamica) O'Brien of Malone

Kathydon217 — 2013-03-09 20:02:47Z

Here are some things I found. You will need to check them yourself to see if I am accurate.

Frank O'Brien
b 21 Mar 1878 [obit says 1875] in Churubusco
d 20 Feb 1959

Parents of Frank
Father-________O"Brien
Mother-Elizabeth ALLARD

Elizabeth Allard
1. m _______O'Brien
2. m Victor Hopkins about 1880
One child with Victor-Hattie Hopkins

1880 Census-Indexed as Frank Allord
Living with mother, Elizabeth, in the household of his Aunt and Uncle--Oliver and Mary Generous

1900 Census-Frank is listed on 2
He is listed as Frank Hopkins living with his mother and stepfather, Victor and Elizabeth Hopkins in Malone

He is also listed as Frank O'Brien as a farm worker in the home of Philip Lamara [Indexed as Lamira]---Philip is the father of Rosalie---Westville Franlkin County

1910 Indexed as Frank DEBRINE
1920 Indexed as Frank OBRION
1930 Indexed as Frank OBRIENE

All in Malone Franklin County

Kathy

Re: Looking for info on Frank & Rosalie (Lamica) O'Brien of Malone

SamDumont — 2013-03-09 16:28:51Z

I would love that! My grandfather couldn't remember much when I asked him about his family a few years ago. If you need my e-mail, send me a privae message.

Thanks!

Re: Looking for info on Frank & Rosalie (Lamica) O'Brien of Malone

Kathydon217 — 2013-03-09 14:24:45Z

I'm not related-- I found a little information on Frank--His mother's obit and information on his sister.

Are you interested? Let me know.

Kathy

Re: Looking for info on Frank & Rosalie (Lamica) O'Brien of Malone

SamDumont — 2013-03-07 18:37:10Z

Hi,

I was wondering if you found any more information about Frank and Rosalie. If these are the same people, Sadie and Wilfred Dumont are my great-grandparents

Samantha

Re: Father of John McElwain 2nd

jenob611 — 2013-02-24 03:31:22Z

If you find any please let me know. You can check out what I found on them in my tree

Re: DeBar/Tucker

Lisa_DeBarr — 2013-02-23 20:44:55Z

In your post, you mention "Rosalia Debar b. 4 Oct 1823 d. 9 May 1907 in Bellmont, New York, USA m. Charles Winchester Tucker & had 13 children"

They all have the Debar surname. Should they instead have the last name Tucker?

Thanks,

Lisa

Re: Gertrude Fisher Alexander

DonnaMilano — 2013-02-21 20:57:41Z

This notice appeared in the April 4, 1916, edition of The Springfield Daily Republican under Berkshire County/Pittsfield news: “After the calling of the court cases [yesterday], divorces were taken up and all were disposed of before noon recess. These 10 decrees were granted:—Clifford A. Alexander of North Adams from Gertrude M. Alexander, whose present whereabouts are unknown, on grounds of desertion...”

This proves Gertrude and CLIFFORD were married until 1916.

Re: Gertrude Fisher Alexander

DonnaMilano — 2013-02-20 16:08:40Z

Not to beat a dead horse, but I still think there's some confusion as to who's the father of Clarence/George. According to this Mass. marriage record, Gertrude wed my Clifford Alexander on 15 Dec 1908. Clarence/George was born a little less than 7 months later, so unless he was premature, he was conceived out of wedlock. (Again, I find it hard to believe that the Clifton Alexander of VT/NH/ME could be the father of Clarence/George, when Gertrude and her family were in Springfield, MA, in 1908, the town in which my Clifford Alexander lived in 1908, and where the marriage took place. I found no evidence of Clifton Alexander in MA or NY).

Mass Marriage Record
groom's name: Clifford A Alexander
groom's birth date: 1884 [actually born 1881]
groom's age: 24 [27]
bride's name: Gertrude M Fisher
bride's birth date: 1892
bride's age: 16
marriage date: 15 Dec 1908
marriage place: Springfield, Hampden, Massachusetts
groom's father's name: Philip B
groom's mother's name: Nellie M Clark
bride's father's name: Francis W
bride's mother's name: Matilda Barber

Perhaps Gertrude and Clifford had a rough beginning to their marriage (she was only 16 when they wed) and were separated at the time of the 1910 census, but got back together. The 1912 newspaper birth announcement of a girl (presumably Eathol) being born to Mr. and Mrs. Clifford Alexander implies that they were still married.

My Clifford Alexander was listed in MA city directories up until his marriage to Gertrude, but then is not listed in MA again until 1916, which makes me think that he was in NY during those 7 years or so (I know Clifford and Gertrude divorced because Clifford remarried by 1918).

If it turns out that my Clifford Alexander is not the father of Clarence/George, Eathol, and/or Maurice, then I am not related to them. I am related to Nellie (Hosford) Clark, Clifford Alexander's mother (Nellie is part of my maternal grandfather's line). And yes, I did see the picture of your grandfather, and believe it or not, he resembles MY maternal grandfather.

I was also trying to find where Gertrude was buried. Her mother Matilda's obit said she was a member of the M. E. Church and was to be buried in Constable. A check on Google showed a United Methodist church in Constable, which does have a cemetery. I sent them an email but did not receive a reply--I guess a phone call is necessary (I thought perhaps Gerdrude would be buried with her family).

Re: Also researching Simpson in NY/Canada

MaryEllenSalls16 — 2013-02-19 13:57:07Z

Hi I don't know how to bring up your answer to my reply contaact me at e-mail 1951chucky@roadrunner.com
Mary Ellen

Re: Also researching Simpson in NY/Canada

MaryEllenSalls16 — 2013-02-17 19:37:27Z

Hi this is February of 2013 yes I'm still around, would help you in any way I can.
MaryEllen e-mail 1951chucky@roadrunner.com

Re: DeBar/Tucker

kelsayline — 2013-02-16 21:34:45Z

You're welcome. My Debar line was originally spelled Tiebert (French and the "t" on the end is silent). I think the spelling was changed because it sounded like Debar. John Henry Debar was French Canadian and an explorer. There is a pond and a mountain named after him (in the Adirondacks).
If you put Debar Mountain or Debar Pond into a search engine you can find info on him.

Re: DeBar/Tucker

Lisa_DeBarr — 2013-02-16 04:31:43Z

Thank you for clarifying that! I'm still trying to find a possible connection of a pocket of DeBarrs in West Virginia, to the greater DeBar/DeBarr community. Our line has been searching and searchfor years for the father of William DeBarr, born around 1793 who married a Nancy Reed and had several children.

Re: DeBar/Tucker

kelsayline — 2013-02-16 02:15:14Z

No. Sorry I was not clear on that. The entire list is the children of John Henry Debar & Margaret Lewin. I just happened to mention Rosalia had 13 children but did not list them. The ones under her are more siblings of hers. I can see why you would think that.

L.

Re: Death Record help- BEAN. Raymond David- 1992

smyttie66 — 2013-02-15 03:16:14Z

Thank you. I'll give it a try but now think that perhaps he is in Northfield with one of his parents.