Hi Eric,
I don't have any information about an Oscar Kniphuisen. I have not found that name in any local records. I have record of five children of Evert Freerks Kniphuisen and Annegien (Anna) Pieters van Dyke. They are your ancestor Peter, born 14 Oct 1841; Frank, born ca 1843 (who did change his name to Kniphausen); Frances, born 1845; Orpha, born 12 Oct 1847; and Aaltje (Alice) born 5 Mar 1850.
I'm sorry I can't tell you anything about Oscar.
Thelma

Actually it was my grandmother (my father's mother) who was a Schurman. Her first name was Lucy. Her father was Garrett Henry Schurman.

Garrett Henry's parents were Arend Jan Schuurman and Janna Geertruid Lammers.

Arend's parents were Gerrit Jan Schuurman and Geertruid Tieltjes.

Janna's parents were Hermanus M. Lammers and Maggeltje Aalbers.

My grandmother Lucy's mother was Eva A Kniphuisen. Her parents were Peter Kniphuisen and Lena Meerdink.

Peter's parents were Evert Frank Kniphuisen and Annegian Pieters Van Dyke.

Lena's parent's were Teunis Meerdink and Alice Dneissen.

How is your husband related to the Schurmans, Meerdinks and Lammers'?

I hope this info help.

Eric

Hi Thelma,

Thanks for the response. Perhaps I have some names and dates mixed up. I'm going off of the Kniphuisen Family Genealogy record that my sister has. She keeps track of some of this stuff better than I do, and I just help out whenever I can.

Anyway, according to our record, Frances was born circa 1845 in the Netherlands. This is from the 1855 Chautauqua Co. NY census which I believe lists her as being 10 years old at the time. Frank is listed as being born April 7th 1845 in the Netherlands. This is based on Frank's Civil War Pension Record. Now, unless they are twins (which I know they're not), then they can't be born the same year, especially if one of them was born in April, so I know there's a descrepancy there.

We don't have an Orpha listed, but we do have an Oscar listed as being born Circa 1849 in Chautauqua Co. NY. This is from the 1855 Chautauqua Co. NY Census. At the time, Oscar was living the the John Dunnewold family, as all the children were dispersed after their parents died.

The information you have for Peter and Alice are the same as what we have.

I would be interested in knowing more about Orpha, if you have any additional information. Orpha seems like a girls name, so if Orpha and Oscar are actually the same person, that's quite a mistake. Also, I believe they came to the US in 1848 aboard the Katherine Jackson. If Orpha was already born by then (in 1847, as you said), then she would have been on the ship as well, but I don't remember seeing her name on the passenger manifest, but I'll check again.

Anyway, I can see I will have to double check some of my source information. Perhaps you can tell me what sources you used for Frank, Frances and Orpha, as mine may be wrong.

Thanks again!

Eric

Hi Eric,
The child living with the Dunnewold family in 1855 was Orpha, not Oscar. Orpha was a girl. I did some re-checking on her birthday. Gravestone says born 1848. Death record in French Creek, NY, where she died stated that she died 4 March 1911 at the age of 62 years, 5 months, 15 days, which computes to a birthdate of 19 September 1848, which would have been after the family arrived in the U.S. In the 1900 census for French Creek her birth date is given as October 1847 and it says she was born in New York. Both of those could not be correct. I am inclined to think that 1848 was her birth year and October was her birth month.
Orpha married 20 March 1873 with Gerrit Jan (Garrett John) Legters, born 2 August 1848 Winterswijk, Gelderland, Netherlands. They were the parents of six children: Benjamin Franklin (Frank), b. 7 Apr 1874, died 28 Apr 1919; Charles, b.20 Feb 1877, d.23 Feb 1877; Alice Anna, b.15 Mar 1878, d.25 Sep 1903; Emma Angeline, b.19 Nov 1882, d.2 Oct 1903; Bertha, b.11 Oct 1886, d.26 Oct 1873; George Henry, b.9 May 1891, d.6 Dec 1960.
The gravestone for Frances has her birth year as 1845 and the 1900 census says she was born in November 1845 in Holland.
In the 1855 census Frank was listed as being 12, which computes to a birth year of about 1843, In 1860 he was working as a farmhand for the Steward family in French Creek, NY, at age 17, which also computes to a birth year of 1843. It says he was born in Holland. In the 1900 census he says he was born in April 1848 in New York. It also says that both of his parents were born in New York, so I don't have much confidence in that data. I didn't find any date of birth for him in his pension record. He enlisted in the army in 1862, which indicates he probably was born no later than 1844.
Regards,
Thelma