Ray - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Jonathan and Martha Miller,Stoke Wood

ch27292 — 2009-11-07 21:51:54Z

They cane from Tenn,, when Jonathan died he appointed James Wood guardship over Elizabeth ,Nancy, Andrew, Elijah, John Wood. Also James was in charges of the Estate of Jonathan & Martha Wood, 1800. Who is James \Wood , a brother or his Dad/?? Elizabeth Married Isaac Splawn . Jonathan and Martha lived in Bedford and Jefferson Co TennI like to know who James Wood and Jonathan dad and mother are?????? Bev

Re: Hester Bethelen McGrath of Kentucky/Missouri

genealogymom60 — 2009-10-26 18:08:22Z

Thank you for the information. There does seem to be alot of information available on the Wall family.

Re: Hester Bethelen McGrath of Kentucky/Missouri

heatherkuhn_1 — 2009-10-26 17:17:02Z

Pat-

I have quite a bit of information on Kedar Wall's father, Kedar Wall. Check out my "Kuhn" family tree and search for Kedar. I haven't been able to find too much on the Wall family, but the sources I have found will be noted on that tree. Also, if you haven't done so you might check out the Ray County Missouri GenWeb page (http://ray.mogenweb.org/index.htm) and look under the database of names tab for Wall. Please let me know what questions you may have.

Heather

Re: MADDUX & COX in Ray Co, MO

genealogymom60 — 2009-10-26 06:28:32Z

Well thank you for checking. I was not sure if there might have been a mistake in spelling of the last name.

Re: MADDUX & COX in Ray Co, MO

bnjschr — 2009-10-26 01:32:18Z

Pat:
Sorry, but I don't have either of the names you are looking for. You might look at the Maddux Family Cemetery records that are available at Ray County Genealogytrails - go to
http://genealogytrails.com/mo/ray/cemetery.html

Robert in Arkansas

Re: Hester Bethelen McGrath of Kentucky/Missouri

genealogymom60 — 2009-10-25 23:16:29Z

Hello,
Found the postings and am interested in any information on the McGrath, Wall, Frazier families.
Bethelen Wall married Henry Clay Thompson my great grand uncle. Kedar Wall (1869-1947) married Almeda Thompson sister to Henry Thompson. Henry and Almeda's parents were James Thompson and Amanda Parker (parents Daniel Parker Mary Polly Frazier. So any information greatly appreciated.
Pat

Re: MADDUX & COX in Ray Co, MO

genealogymom60 — 2009-10-25 20:33:39Z

Hello,I am researching the Tuggle and Maddox (Maddux) families. I have James Tuggle married to a Jane Maddox of Virginia. Do you have any information regarding Jane. I am not sure of the last name spelling so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Pat

Levingston/Livingston(e) Family

Ronna51 — 2009-10-22 13:42:33Z

Seeking information regarding the descendants of Mason Levingston & Elizabeth "Betsy" (Oatman); circa 1870. Mason served in Civil War for Missouri; Elizabeth applied for Widow's pension, 1877. Known children: Susanna, John, Sarah E.& Nicholas. Nicholas died 9 Feb 1939, Richmond Twp. Ray Co. MO; is there an obituary on him or information on other members of this family? Thanks in advance, Ronna Eagle, Newark, Licking co. OH

Re: MADDUX & COX in Ray Co, MO

marshapillers1 — 2009-10-14 17:48:11Z

I have a quilt top that would be called a friendship quilt with Hattie Maddux's name on it. She was the aunt (perhaps) of my aunt's husband, Larry Maddux (deceased) I would be glad to send you a pic of the quilt

Re: Ray County Poor Farm

Kansas1933 — 2009-09-28 14:00:51Z

Hi, my 3xgreat grandparents lived in Ray County. The names I am researching are Rider, Ridenour, Stilts(z) and Baker. I know that my 3xggfather, George W. Rider and his son, John W. Rider are buried in Blue springs Cemetery.

Re: Hester Bethelen McGrath of Kentucky/Missouri

bsramz — 2009-09-03 02:15:55Z

Hello, I am a descendant of WADE WALL of Ray Co., Mo. I would like to share information with those of you that know the Wall family. Please contact me at: sbramz@embarqmail.com

Bill

MINNICK families of Ray Co., MO,

bsramz — 2009-08-28 17:19:25Z

I descend through the Minnick families of Ray Co., MO. I am trying to get in touch with a DAVID MINNICK, care taker of the
Wakenda Cemetery in Ray Co. Any help will be sincerely appreciated. Reach me at: sbramz@embarqmail.com

Bill Ramsey ggGrandson of Samuel M. Minnick

SANDERSON CEMETERY NEAR RAYVILLE, MO

bnjschr — 2009-08-26 13:39:00Z

Where could someone find historical information about the Sanderson Cemetery, located south of Rayville?
I would be interested in knowing who originally donated the land, who was the first burial, details about any additional land acquired, etc.
According to the transcription found on the Ray County website “There are many people known to be buried in this cemetery whose graves bear no markers”. My great-grandparents were among those whose graves were marked only with fieldstones.
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Robert in Arkansas

Re: Brewer and Connor

claret455 — 2009-07-15 13:28:45Z

Jane Brewer was my great-grandmother. She and Andrew Day/Dey/Dye had 3 children, James, Lewis and Lydia, before his death. (Lewis and Lydia used the name Day later.) On 1 Jan 1857 she married Dr William Jones. They had 5 children, William W, Austin, Anna Bell, and twins, Andrew and Alfred (my grandfather). They moved around a lot, and eventually settled in Union County, Kentucky. I have documentation for this and much more, since I have located Anna Bell's living granddaughter, who provided me with a newspaper obituary for Jane, which substantiates my research. I am trying to learn more about my ggrandfather, Dr William Jones, whose mother was from Missouri.

Re: James Monroe Thompson

SallyTaylor111 — 2009-07-14 17:51:04Z

I found Joseph and Lucy Todd Crow in the census in Fishing River Twp., if I remember right. You might find James' family there. Good Hunting!

Re: James Monroe Thompson

genealogymom60 — 2009-07-14 16:08:59Z

From his death certificate it only states James Thompson as father, no mother's name listed, born Richmond, Missouri. Other than that, I have no other information. His children were named James Henry, Walter, William, Francis Raymond, daughters, Mary, Anita, Florence. I have tried to find families with similar names as people sometimes named children for siblings. I can only hope some Thompson will see a connectiong to their family. Thanks.

Re: James Monroe Thompson

SallyTaylor111 — 2009-07-14 15:25:54Z

Who are the parents of James M. Thompson. I have a connection to Lucy Todd Crow who married Joseph Thompson in Ray Co., MO. Are the two Thompson's related?

James Monroe Thompson

genealogymom60 — 2009-07-14 04:43:42Z

I am researching James Monroe Thompson b 1 Jan 1855 Richmond, Missouri. He came to CA by 1880's. Have not been able to find him in census. Does this person sound familiar or do you have any ideas how to "find" this family? Brick wall, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Pat

Re: Coal mine location

rfields — 2009-06-21 22:54:43Z

The earliest date that the Ray County Historical Society has for the union mining records is 1904. Basically what these are, the pay records. Not every mine in Ray County was union, so we do not have every record of all miners after the union was started. Another thing to remember is that gold mining was something that people left the farming life to try to make good money for their family.

Rod

Re: Wakenda Cemetery, Hardin, MO

LisaSmalley310 — 2009-07-13 18:15:59Z

I found out that David Minnick is the "grave maker" for Wakenda Cemetery. If you email me privately I will give you his phone number.

Lisa

Re: obit look up request - Abraham Downs

LisaSmalley310 — 2009-06-04 01:40:53Z

Death of Fleming Citizen
Abraham Downs, one of western Ray county’s oldest citizens, died at his home in Fleming at an early hour Monday morning. He was about eighty years of age and had been in feeble health for several. Funeral and burial occurred Tuesday.
The Richmond News, November 13, 1918 Front Page

Re: obit look up request - Abraham Downs

bnjschr — 2009-06-08 19:06:32Z

Sunny Slope Cemetery, Richmond, Ray Co, MO
DOWNS Thomas P. Mar 8, 1878 Aug 25, 1953 Father
DOWNS Eliza A. Jan 12, 1888 Aug 20, 1976 Mother
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MO Death Certificate #29173, Lafayette County
Thomas P Downs, son of A J Downs & Sylvania Hardin

You can view the Missouri Death Certificate referenced above at:
http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/

Robert in Arkansas

Re: obit look up request - Abraham Downs

bnjschr — 2009-06-08 18:44:19Z

I am not researching this line – but hope this helps in your search
Robert in Arkansas (but born in Ray County)
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You can view the Missouri Death Certificate #41579-a for Abraham Downs at:
http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/

In the 1870 census, Abraham is living in the Elizabeth Snoden [Snowden] household, along with Hannah and Thomas Downs. All three are from Illinois. Abraham is age 26 and Hannah is age 22, while Thomas is 19.
Since the 1870 census does not provide relationships, one could surmise that Hannah was Abraham’s wife, and that Thomas was his brother. Or, it is possible that they were all siblings?

The 1880 census (Ray Co, ED 138, Pg 413-D) is more definitive, listing:
Abraham, 37,Head, IL-KY-TN, Farmer
Sylvania, 31, Wife, MO-KY-KY
Mary 8, Daughter, MO-IL-MO
Edgar W, 5, Son, MO-IL-MO
Thomas T, 2, Son, MO-IL-MO

The 1900 census (Ray Co, ED 123, Pg 8-A) lists:
Abraham J, born Oct 1844 in IL, now a widower, carpenter
Lewis A, son, born Nov 1880 in MO, coal digger
I could not locate a MO death certificate for Sylvania)

On the same 1900 census page, there is a William Downs, about the same age is the Edgar W Downs, enumerated in 1880:
William Downs, born Jul 1874 in MO, married 1 year, no occupation listed
Mary Downs, born Jun 1877 in KS, married 1 year

The 1910 census (Ray Co, ED 127, Pg 11-A) lists:
Abraham J Downs, Head, 66, widower, born in IL, salesman
Louis A Downs, Son, 29, married 3 years, born MO, coal miner
Ella Downs, Dau’Law, 24, married 3 years, born MO
William Downs, Gr’Son, 2, born MO
Virgil Downs, Gr’Son, 2/12, born MO

Re: Recipes wanted

bnjschr — 2009-05-18 01:59:41Z

BAKED SALMON & MACARONI

3 cups cooked macaroni or spaghetti
2 cups salmon
2 cups milk
2 tablespoons butter
1/2 cup battered bread crumbs
salt and pepper

Drain and flake salmon. Remove bones. Fill well-greased baking dish with alternate layers of salmon and macaroni.
Add milk, salt, and pepper. Dot with butter.
Cover with breadcrumbs and bake in moderate oven (375) for one hour. This will serve 8 people.

Circa 1950 recipe

Don't remember having this often made with salmon. We used the less costly mackerel.

Robert in Arkansas

Re: Wakenda Cemetery, Hardin, MO

bnjschr — 2009-07-09 14:04:43Z

Paula:

The Wakenda/Dunkard Cemetery is one of only a handful of Ray County cemeteries that are not available online (to my knowledge). I'm HOPING that someone will volunteer to work on these soon.

If you will contact Lisa at the Ray County Genealogical Society, she may be able to direct you to the caretaker for Wakenda Cemetery. You can contact her at: morcga@yahoo.com.

You might also want to look at the numerous Ray County cemeteries that have been transcribed. These may be found at: http://genealogytrails.com/mo/ray/

I believe that Frank Bayer's sister, Sarah Ellen, was married to Mora C Halterman. Her MO death certificate is available on the MO Secretary of State's website.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Robert in Arkansas
But born in Ray County

Re: Coal mine location

Camracrazy — 2009-06-20 15:23:47Z

Thank you for checking.

Re: Coal mine location

Camracrazy — 2009-06-12 19:55:52Z

Are their any lists or books with the names of miners? I am looking for William Nelson born about 1861 in Lawson. I think I have found him in Colorado in 1900 working as a miner, so it could be that he worked as a miner during the time he lived in Ray County which would have been from about 1861 to 1893. Any help appreciated.

William J. Howard

Stonequeen — 2009-06-29 16:44:39Z

Looking for any info on William J. Howard who married Pearcy Hall on October 1st, 1879. Record of this marriage was found on Ancestry.com, however no other info on this man seems to be anywhere.

Pearcy was first married to William L. Braddy/Brady who died in 1851, then to Furney Hall who died in 1876.

Pearcy is listed as married on the 1880 census but is living alone on the farm she shared with her two previous husbands. It is believed she died sometime before June of 1900 when the census was taken.

Re: Coal mine location

Jenn_Downs — 2009-06-08 21:55:20Z

Thanks Heather, I'll do that.

Re: obit look up request - Abraham Downs

Jenn_Downs — 2009-06-08 19:18:26Z

Thank you Robert, you went to a lot of trouble posting all of that and I appreciate it.

Here is what I know about Abraham -

Out of 5 children, only Abraham, Hannah and Thomas survived. Their parents (George W Downs b. abt 1817 ky and Marinda Snowden b. abt 1824 Tn) disappear from the record after 1850. Probably both had died but I know they were alive at least until 1852 as their last child was born in that year but died six years later. The three remaining children went to live with their maternal grandparents, James and Elizabeth Snowden by 1860(this all takes place in Cumberland, IL). James must be related somehow to the Snowdens in Ray county but I haven't been able to make the connection yet. James died the same year the civil war ended and Elizabeth moved with her son William H Snowden and her 3 Downs grandchildren to Ray county a year or two later. Elizabeth died in 1873 and is buried in the Sunshine cemetery in Camden.

Abraham married Sylvania Hardin and had 4 children
Mary, William Edgar, Thomas and Louis. You could not find a death certificate for Sylvania because she is one of my great mysteries. She is buried in the Southpoint cemetery in an unmarked grave under a maiden name (Mullins) that isn't hers. Exact date of death remains unknown but is somewhere between 1881-1900.

Hannah became the live in housekeeper for a Dr Charles Johnson and his wife, never married and stayed with them until her death in 1908. Yet another mystery here. Dr Charles Johnson died one day before Hannah. Approximately 10 years earlier his mother-in-law died and the next day his wife died...coincidence? They lived in Southwest City, Mo at that time.

Thomas I have not been able to find but suspect that he moved back to Illinois and married but have no concrete proof.

Of Abraham's children,
Mary married David Wyatt of Fleming, they had no children.
William Edgar married Mary Joiner. They had two children and moved to Oklahoma.
Thomas J married and remained in Ray county until his death
Louis married, he and his wife lived with Abraham until his death in 1918.

Coal mine location

Jenn_Downs — 2009-06-08 18:21:56Z

Does anyone know where the Central Coal and Coke company was located at in Fleming? If so, would you be kind enough to point it out on a google map?

Re: obit look up request - Abraham Downs

Jenn_Downs — 2009-06-04 02:16:39Z

Thank you Lisa.

obit look up request - Abraham Downs

Jenn_Downs — 2009-06-03 15:09:26Z

Abraham Downs (nickname AJ) b. 1843 IL d. Nov 9, 1918
buried in Southpoint Cemetery, Orrick, Mo

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Re: William Henry Conklin 1848 Ray Co., Mo - 1937?

ksmith21115 — 2009-05-20 16:08:22Z

Will try that, thanks, K

William Henry Conklin 1848 Ray Co., Mo - 1937?

ksmith21115 — 2009-05-19 14:53:47Z

Searching for the death and burial of William Henry Conklin 1848 Mo last located on the 1910 census Grape Grove, Ray Co., Mo. Unable to locate him in 1920. His wife Sarah Jane is buried in Van Bebber Cem but I have been unable to find him. Was told he died about 1937 in OK buy can find no record there either. Would appreciate any information. Thank you, K

Re: William Henry Conklin 1848 Ray Co., Mo - 1937?

ksmith21115 — 2009-05-20 14:52:28Z

Thank you for the information on Sarahs death certificate. She does give her birth place as Ohio on the 1880 - 1910 census in Ray Co., Mo which is a ? since Reuben and Mary Rice are located in Caldwell Co., Mo on the 1850 census. My mil Alma Forson Hunter thought he was buried in Fairview Cemetery near Melrose Ks and had lived in Ok but I have not been able to find any information on his death or burial in Mo, Ks or Ok. K

Re: William Henry Conklin 1848 Ray Co., Mo - 1937?

BarbaraStancliff45 — 2009-05-20 14:01:42Z

Sarah Jane Rice Conklin's death certificate is online at the Missouri SOS site. She is listed as married on the certificate, but Samuel Fields gave the information. There is no mention of William Conklin on it. Both of them are my ancestors. I do not remember any mention in the family of William coming to Oklahoma, but he may have. Unfortunately, I've not found his death date and place either.

Since William was not the one to give the information, I wonder if he had died shortly before she did, yet she's not listed as widowed.

If you access the death certificate, I can tell you that Mr Fields gave the wrong birth place information. Her parents were born in Ohio, and she was born in Caldwell Co MO.

Re: William Henry Conklin 1848 Ray Co., Mo - 1937?

BarbaraStancliff45 — 2009-05-20 15:13:52Z

The 1880 census also says that Williams father Jesse and mother Priscilla (Vercilla on the census) were born in OH, but that is false. Jesse was born in NY, and Priscilla was born possibly in TN.

Have you checked Warren Co IA? William's grandparents and some of Jesse's brothers ended up there. That's just a wild thought, but we never know.

Good luck.

Re: Coal mine location

carterandbev — 2009-06-12 19:34:07Z

Jenn,

I had volunteer duty at the Ray County Genealogical library yesterday. We had a person visit yesterday who is very much involved with Ray County coal mines and is familiar with Central Coal and Coke, knows the location, and more. He does not do email, but he is willing to chat with you on the phone and will provide information you requested and possibly more. If you will contact me by email directly, carterandbev@yahoo.com, I will reply to you with his name and phone number.

Carter Rogers

Re: Coal mine location

carterandbev — 2009-06-20 13:57:47Z

Camracrazy,

We do have journals from the UMW with names of member miners. The journals were indexed a number of years ago. The earliest date I found in the index was 1926 which may be much later than your William Nelson. I did find a William Nelson in the index with a start date of June 10, 1938 and a note that he was suspended on Sept 1, 1939. I don't believe that we can be of further help, but I will keep your query in mind and if I am able to find more information, I will let you know.

Re: Coal mine location

carterandbev — 2009-06-16 16:30:58Z

I don't think there is much on miner's names, but I will check on Thursday when I volunteer in the library and I will let you know.

Carter

Re: Louis Bolinger Death - Ray County, Missouri

Karl_Pound — 2009-05-20 02:29:55Z

Yes my understanding is he's the son of James Bolinger and Sarah Coffman Bolinger. Born about 1839 in Virginia (probably a part of the State that later became West Virginia).

I'd be happy to exchange information with you; if you would like.

Karl

James Monroe Thompson

genealogymom60 — 2009-07-14 04:43:18Z

Re: Hester Bethelen McGrath of Kentucky/Missouri

heatherkuhn_1 — 2009-06-09 18:47:15Z

Yes, Miss Bruna was my great aunt and she also wrote a book about the McGuires which has been great to have! Are your Fraziers from Ray County? I would be happy to look for what they may have at the library while I'm there. If you could send me a pedigree for that line I would be happy to look in to it for you. My email is b.h.roelker@hotmail.com/.

Heather

Hester Bethelen McGrath of Kentucky/Missouri

heatherkuhn_1 — 2009-06-08 19:16:14Z

I am looking for information on Hester Bethelen McGrath born in Kentucky in 1786. She married Edward "Neddie" Wall and they lived in Ray County, Missouri for many years. I know two of their children's names: Wade and Kedar. She died in 1865 and is buried in Ray County. Any information about her origin would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Coal mine location

heatherkuhn_1 — 2009-06-08 19:15:04Z

If you haven't already, you might try contacting the Ray County Historical Society. They have an entire room devoted to the mining industry in their museum and I'm sure they could tell you where it was located:

http://www.raycountyhistoricalsociety.com/

Re: Hester Bethelen McGrath of Kentucky/Missouri

heatherkuhn_1 — 2009-06-09 01:16:59Z

Great tip...I'm going to be visiting the Ray County Museum next week so I'll check out the book. My great Aunt Bruna McGuire also wrote a history of the Wall family (with another woman whose name I can't remember). Have you seen that?

Do you know anything about the McGraths? I can search in Lawrenceburg and see what I find. I have done a little research but haven't been able to find anything on that line. Perhaps the book you mentioned talks about it.

Wakenda Cemetery, Hardin, MO

bicketdoylepaula — 2009-07-08 17:34:29Z

My great grandfather's death certificate states he is buried in Wakenda Cemetery 7 miles north of Hardin on Highway A. I have walked that cemetery a few times and I cannot find his (Frank Bayer) or his wife Sara Bell Dye-Bayer. Does anyone like the cemetery caretaker have the records of unmarked graves? Thanks! Paula

Re: Hester Bethelen McGrath of Kentucky/Missouri

mglassburner06 — 2009-06-09 02:59:57Z

The original Wall family tree was written by Miss Bruna M. McGuire and Betty Wall of Hardin, MO. The family tree in the book that I ordered is the same one. It doesn't go into much info on Behethelen McGrath. My name is Margie (Frazier) Glassburner. The Frazier side is so hard--too many Frazier families. Can you let me know if you find anything interesting? I'll see if I can find anything on Ancestry.com tomorrow night.

Re: Hester Bethelen McGrath of Kentucky/Missouri

mglassburner06 — 2009-06-09 00:20:56Z

My family is also of the McGrath and Wall Families--Mariah Wall married my Great Grandfather, Lewis S. Frazier. She was the daughter of Jeptha Wall and Inatha Long.

If you would like the complete Wall family tree it is included in the "Ray County Chapters" Articles from the "Richmond Missourian" Volumne IV 1933. This is a reprint published by the Ray County Genealogical Assoc. This book can be ordered from the Ray County Genealogy Assoc. for $16. I had the original one but this is a really nice copy. There were 7 chapters of the Wall family tree in the book. Well worth the money. Go to the Ray County Genealogy Association site.

They came from Lawrenceburg, KY (though they were Virginians by birth) landing in Lexington, Missouri, Nov. 22, 1833.

There is a Wall Family Cemetery near Richmond, MO. A few buried here are listed in one of the chapters.

The children of Edward Wall and Behethelen McGrath are: 11--Jeptha, Lucy, Margaret, Martha, Wade, Van, Katherine, Thelbert, Pike, Kidder and Rufus.