Thank you for the dates etc. YOU BET it HELPS! Now my question if this; I was under the impression that Susan Twiner was the sister of William McClure who was bro to James McClure Jr. b. 1809. A cousin who is a direct descendant of Susan and Joseph Twiner found me over the Internet. Do you have other info on the McClure's that would clear this up? I am assuming that the father of James McClure Jr. b. 1809 and Wm. was James McClure prob. b. S.C. or also Ky.??? fran