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Re: Vien family

ziglet — 2009-11-09 21:00:07Z

Massachusetts Vital Records
Lawrence MA Deaths 1892
Vol 427 Page 403
J.Bt. Vien age 50
27 Lake St
Occ: Engineer
Cause of Death:Paralysis
b. Canada to Joseph and Josette(Coutier)Vien

1905
Vol 52 Page 47
15 Jan 1905
Dora Vien age 21
38 Trenton St Lawrence, MA
Cause of Death: Galloping Phthisis Pulmonalis
Contributing cause: to a cold from bathing
b.Canada to John Vien and Celina Poirier
buried Bellevue Cem. Lawrence, MA

Marriages Lawrence MA 1898
Vol 478 Page 392
15 Sept 1898
John A Fish age 24 Teamster
b.N.Andover, MA to Jonathan and Mary C (Kimball)
to
Marie Vien age 23 Clerk
b. Canada to John and Celina(Perry)
married by the Rev Alfred H Valiquette

Vien family

lltradll — 2009-11-09 13:20:42Z

Hello everyone,

Jean-Baptiste Vien (Balthazar and Josephte Couture) and his wife Marie-Célina Poirier (Julien and Anastasia Joncas) from Lévis, QC, Ca. moved with their family to Lawrence around 1890.
Kids were:
Marie-Georgia-Anna, born 1873
Marie-Philomène, born 1875
Marie-Emma-Célina, born 1881. She married in BC, Ca. in 1920 to David-Arthur Doyle
Marie-Théodora, born 1882
Anne-Marie-Élizabeth, born 1884
Alida, born 1886, died in 1906 in Lawrence.

It seems Jean-Baptiste (John) Vien died before 1920. Celina Vien is declared a widow on the 1920 census.

Their address was 38, Trenton?? Street in Lawrence, Mass.

I would enjoy knowing more about them and their descendants in that region.

Thanks!

JP

JOHN FILLMORE, mariner, born c 1676 in Manchester, England

mystery1450 — 2009-11-08 01:29:28Z

John married Abigail Tilton in 1701 in Ipswich, Massachusetts. I don't know when exactly when he arrived, nor do I know exactly when he died. Family history has him deceased anywhere from 1708 to 1710, enroute home from Martinique, West Indies. However, I have found evidence online at the New England Historical and Genealogical Society that he sailed into Boston harbour 6 June 1712 on the ship "Mary". I am looking for any information on John Fillmore (he had a son also named John, and a mariner also)especially pertaining to his life as a mariner. Any suggestions as to where I might find information will be very very appreciated.

Steele/Blodgett

donnpattyb — 2009-11-05 23:11:10Z

I'm looking for info about William Steele and Anna Blodgett; their parents and place of birth??
They married 16 Dec 1731 in Ipswich.
Their children were born in Gloucester.
Here's is some info about their son William
William married Phebe Lord 29 Nov 1755, Phebe died 1780. He married secondly Sarah Lufkin 15 July 1781. He died 1799 intestate. Children named Moses Steele, Daniel Steele, John Steele, Ebenzer Steele, Joseph Steele, Martha Steele, Anna Cogswell, Phebe Herrick, Hannah Choate, Sarah Bulter.

Patty Brown

Re: Rev. Oliver Boucher, parish priest, Lawrence, ca. 1880

gloriagould38 — 2009-11-05 02:18:27Z

Beleive the Rev. Boucher was a parish priest at St. Anne's on Haverhill St. Lawrence. That church has been closed for many, many years due to a fire I believe. My gggrandparents where married there in 1878 and Rev. Boucher signed the church certificate. Yesterday I spoke to Catholic Church Archives at 617-746-5797. Maybe they can help you. Good luck.

galvin family from peabody mass

orourkesue31 — 2009-11-02 12:20:39Z

looking for information on galvin family and their descendants.
mary josephine rourke born wales 1887 daughter of james rourke and mary condon of athlone ireland. came to usa and married michael galvin born 1888 ireland.children
mary 1918
anna 1919
frank 1920
catherine 1923
pauline 1925
twins phylis and john 1928
last record in 1940's living in Peabody mass. Mary rourke/galvin is my gt aunt. ANY BODY KNOW OF THE FAMILY OR RELATED PLEASE CONTACT

Re: "Early Settlers Of Rowley, Massachussetts"

papaglen — 2009-10-31 21:10:17Z

Hello, Brad -

Maximillian and his wife, Ann, came to America in 1638
on the ship, John Of London. Accompanying them were
Mary, Joesph, Sarah and Jeremiah. Maximillian was the
second son of Edward and Mary Jewett of Bradford,
West Riding in Yorkshsire. Leading the group was the
Rev. Ezekiel Rogers who had been the rector os St.
Peters Church in Rowley, Yorkshire. Maximillian was
a leading man in town affairs and representative in
the General Court many times. He was one of the first
two deacons of the Rowley Church. There are about
forty pages in "Early Settlers of Rowley, MA" relating
to the Jewett families. This book is available through
Amazon.Com. If you have any other quesstions please
don't hesitate to contact me at papaglen000@aol.com.

Glen Bailey

1908 envelope to Maria JOHNSON from Orebro, Sweden

JimMiller599 — 2009-10-31 20:52:42Z

I recently found a photograph of an old envelope that was sent to Maria JOHNSON from Orebro, Sweden in 1908. You can see the envelope on http://philgen.org (search on JOHNSON, select the one in Manchester, click on View, and scroll to the bottom of the page), or click on the link below. I am unable to find Maria JOHNSON in Manchester and wondered if someone more familiar with the area can find her. I believe that Orebro may be her or her parents' birthplace and this envelope will be helpful to someone in their genealogical research. The reason I have a photo of the envelope is because of my interest in using old envelopes and postcards in genealogical research. I have an article in the spring 2009 issue of New England Ancestors entitled Philatelic Genealogy (viewable at the philgen website) and have started the philgen website.

Here is a direct link to the photo of the envelope: http://philgen.org/index.php?option=com_fabrik&c=form&am...

Re: "Early Settlers Of Rowley, Massachussetts"

papaglen — 2009-10-31 06:49:57Z

There are five pages of Dickinsons in "Early Settlers".
Also two pictures of houses they lived in. If you would
like I can copy them and mail them to you.

Glen Bailey
papaglen000@aol.com

Re: Narcisse Breton/Bretton and Emma Lambert from Quebec to Lawrence then Methuen

k2outside — 2009-10-28 17:55:35Z

If you have access to Ancestry, you can view the family tree at http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/13003677/person/-141596601?pg=

I'll have to track down those marriage records.

That's our Alcide! The address of 16 Pine is what appears on brother William's September 1902 birth record, so I'm sure this is my family. Interestingly, they had another son named Alcide in 1909! It took some head scratching to figure out that there were actually two of them. I think I'll wait until all of the early Massachusetts death records are on-line at http://pilot.familysearch.org/ to get the original.

Irene Beatrice would be part of the family. The address is also a match to the family as are the names. But, I have a death record for "Marie R. Breton" born 24 Feb 1913 who died 13 Oct 1913. So, either Marie and Irene Beatrice were twins or they are the same person. Since there is no Irene with the family in the 1920 census and no Marie being born the same day, I'm assuming they're the same person. Such drastic name changes seem to be quite common!

Again, thanks for the awesome detective work on the marriage! I'm still thrilled! I'm going to get the original and seek out the parish records.

Re: "Early Settlers Of Rowley, Massachussetts"

VanHayMill — 2009-10-28 10:26:02Z

Oh, ok, Great, thank you.

Looking for obit from 1952

BarbaraODonahue — 2009-10-28 01:06:54Z

Looking for an obituary for Charles Henry McGee died around 1952 in Salem, Mass.

Re: Narcisse Breton/Bretton and Emma Lambert from Quebec to Lawrence then Methuen

k2outside — 2009-10-27 22:33:00Z

You're wonderful! You found a lot of great information for me!

Your pièce de résistance is that marriage record. There are several records, even a phone book entry for Narcisse as Nelson and a couple of census records read Butler! The phone book entry for Butler even says "See Bretton" for a few years! All the other information - address, children, ages, birthplaces, etc. - are a match in those records, so I'm sure those are my folks.

Emma's parents are indeed Louis and Julie Lambert of St-Agathe-de-Lotbiniere.

And, that Joseph Narcisse Breton whom I'd suspected was my guy though the birthdate was a little off - I've determined that his parents were Narcisse Breton and Marie Philoméne Rosberry - which sure looks like a match for "Nelson and Flemen". (I have done more research since writing my original post and found that Elmina and Lumina were nicknames that she used, but she was born Philoméne.) I also exhaustively researched the family, including finding most all of the children in later life - either in Canada or the U.S. But, Joseph Narcisse just disappears, so there's nothing there to contradict my Narcisse and that one being one and the same!

Unfortunately, I have to go finish dinner now for some dinner guests who are coming soon! But, later tonight or tomorrow I'm going to digest your note more and will probably have questions.

You just made my day! Thanks for taking the time to do this!

Re: "Early Settlers Of Rowley, Massachussetts"

papaglen — 2009-10-27 20:15:17Z

Vanessa -

Try Amazon.com. They have at least four copies
available. If no luck, contact me at
papaglen000@aol.com.

Glen bailey

Re: Narcisse Breton/Bretton and Emma Lambert from Quebec to Lawrence then Methuen

John_Himself — 2009-10-27 19:36:55Z

Well, there are not as many records as one might wish for but here are a few.

Antoinette was married in 1928. It is registered in both Methuen and Lawrence, MA. MA index shows vol 24, page 318 for Lawrence and vol 33, page 348 for Methuen. The state web site for these is http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=eohhs2terminal&L=4&L0=Ho... . Or try contacting the cities individually; I suspect you'll have better luck.

Louis J. Breton m Marie in 1929. It is registered in Methuen. The MA Vital Records index shows vol.34, page 499, so you can get it from them but, again, you may have better luck writing Methuen.

The birth record for Alcide (one of the few) is for Dec 22, 1899. Male. born at 22 Railroad, parents are Narcisse and Emma Lambert. Parents reside at 22 Railroad. Narcisse is a laborer. Both parents born in Canada. [Vol 540, page 321}

There is a death record for Alcide in Methune on Jan 4 1903. He died of pneumonia, age 3 y, 5m, 2d. His residence and place of death were 16 Pine St. in Methuen. Burial was in ?Trn Con Cem? Lawrence. I thought that might be Trinitarian Congregational but doubt it.

There is also a birth in 1913 in Methune [vol 614, page 682] showing Irene Beatrice Breton, b 24 Feb. Female. Born in Methuen at 122 Railroad St. Father is Nelson. Mother is Emma Lambert. They live in Methuen at 122 Railroad St. He is a laborer. Both parents b. Canada.

There is a death indexed for Nelson Bretton in Tewksbury, MA in 1931 [Vol 81, Page 228].

There is a possible marriage; not the worst case of mis-reading notes I've seen. It is July 13, 1897 [vol 469, page 401] in Lawrence. Nelson Butler (sic) and Emma Lambert. Both reside Lawrence. Both age 28. He is a "form fixer"; she is a "weaver". Both born in Canada. His parents: Nelson and Flemen; Her parents: Louis and Julia. First marriage for each. Performed by Rev. J.M. Portal of Lawrence. [The Lawrence City Directory for 1897 does not list them but does list J. M. Portal, Pastor, St. Ann's Roman Catholic Church.] I didn't find a St. Anne's listed now. There is a brief description at http://acadian-ancestral-home.blogspot.com/2009/07/history-o...

Hope some of that helps.

Re: "Early Settlers Of Rowley, Massachussetts"

VanHayMill — 2009-10-27 15:01:02Z

Where did you get this book? Is it available anywhere? I have a lot of ancestors from all those surrounding towns, including Salem.

Thankyou.

Re: Looking for Family of Thomas K. Hamilton

VanHayMill — 2009-10-27 14:59:07Z

Hi,
The Mary A. Haynes/Haines is in my tree, she's my great grand aunt. You have her father down as David, his name is actually Daniel.
And Ellen's maiden name is Rosencrantz/Rosencrants/Rosencrans (different spellings, just like Haynes is.
Do you happen to have or know where I could find info on Daniel & Ellen (Rosencrants) Haynes?

I'm at a brick wall here, big time..and I apologize if I sound rude or standoffish in my correction of names...I have a bad habit of sounding like that.

Thank you
Vanessa

Re: Wilhelmina ( Miina ) Pakka to Rockport, Essex county 1899

syrjamer — 2009-10-24 09:42:27Z

Hi,
Sorry for not answering sooner, I have not noticed your posting earlier.
I have managed to find Wilhelmiina Pakka in Rockport and she died there, no descendants survive.
It would have been lovely to find a relative but unfortunately that is not the case here.
Good luck to your research!
Merja

Re: Lynn - Gold Rush

ziglet — 2009-10-07 23:20:11Z

from The Boston Daily Atlas
Tuesday, Feb. 11 1851
Issue 190 Column G
Death Notices:
in San Francisco, Dec 31st, Jacob D. Clark, of Boston, 25; 29th, John Wheeler of Boston, 23; GEORGE W BEAN of Mass.

Re: Doyle

Snoopy48 — 2009-10-14 16:26:14Z

Are you still working on the Doyle family? I have a Maurice F. Doyle married Viola Evelyn Brown. Is this the same family. He would be a brother to my mother-in-law.
Please reply.

Lynn Massachusetts

HeatherBeckett40 — 2009-10-07 12:44:56Z

Is there a way I can check to see who lived at an address in Lynn in 1906? I have an ancestor on a passenger list , Finlay McLeod stating that he is going to a brother in law in Lynn Mass , at 17 Pleasant St. The name is given, but is hard to read although it looks like Wm Perie. I have checked the Lynn city directories with this name of Perie, and it is not there. This name is not anywhere in Mass that I can find. I need to know who was living at this address before I can proceed further I think. I am trying to chase chase down who was married to this brother in law!

Re: Patrick William Sullivan and Ann Jane Gallagher

michaelmarksullivan — 2009-10-14 17:07:26Z

Patrick J Sullivan
1888 –
Jessie Sullivan
1890 –
James Sullivan
1892 –
John L Sullivan
1894 –
Barbara Sullivan
1896 –
Charles Sullivan
1898 –
Vincent Proctor Sullivan
1899 – 1925
Joseph Sullivan
1901 –
Austin Leo Sullivan
1902 – 1985
Michael Mark Sullivan
1903 – 1976
Mary C Sullivan
1906 –
Francis Sullivan
1908 –

Ann Jane Gallagher:

* Birth
*
o 2 Apr 1866
o in Kinkora, Prince Edward Island, Canada

* Death
*
o 26 Jul 1910
o in West Newbury, Essex, Massachusetts, United States

* Ann McCarville
* Birth
*
o 08 Oct 1829
o in Monaghan, Monaghan, Ireland

#

* Daniel Gallagher
* Birth
*
o 25 Oct 1825
o in Ireland

* Death
*
o 1900
o in Prince Edward Island, Canada
*

Re: "Early Settlers Of Rowley, Massachussetts"

BradleyJewett — 2009-10-24 07:20:41Z

Based on our family records, it appears William, Maximillian and Joseph Jewett founded Rowley Mass, with others in 1638-9. Can you confirm this? Is there anything in the town records regarding these Jewetts? I am a descendant of Joseph Jewett. Thanks,
Brad Jewett

Re: Seeking information on Hannah (Dodge) Gove

ConnieWinterton — 2009-10-15 19:11:26Z

Thank you Tina. This Hannah would be to late as David and Hannah were married about 1754. I guess she is another one of these brick walls. I search everything I could think of on NEHGS to no avail. I found their headstones at Pioneer Cemetery when I was researching in Edgecomb, ME.
Connie

Seeking information on Hannah (Dodge) Gove

ConnieWinterton — 2009-10-14 01:08:44Z

I'm looking for any information on Hannah. I do not have a birthdate for her. I have her born about 1735. She married David S. Trask about 1754. She was suppose to be born in Rowley, MA. and I do know she died in Edgecomb, ME. If anyone has any informtion or ideas as to where I can find something on her I would appreciate it. Thank you.

Charles Brown

FOSTER39 — 2009-10-24 06:17:23Z

I am looking for a Charles Brown, born Boston, 1830. He emigrated to Australia aboard the "Wide Awake" in 1854 arriving Dec. 20 1854. His son's birth certificate (Charles Alexander Brown b. 1860) states he was 30 years of age and lists Boston, USA as place of birth. No parents listed. Looking for birth records, as yet have found none. All help appreciated. Thanks

Re: Looking for Henry Hamilton and Mary Dodge

noyes193 — 2009-10-14 23:58:51Z

I found the marriage record
NEHGS vitals Salem Ma,
Henry W.Hamilton 28 Carpenter b.Nova Scotia parents David and Mary A.Gaver not sure of the spelling 1st marriage
Mary J.Dodge 20 b.Salem parents Joseph and Lovicie C.Holland 1st marriage.
I could not find a birth record for Mary T.Hamilton
Tina

Re: Seeking information on Hannah (Dodge) Gove

noyes193 — 2009-10-14 23:18:35Z

NEHGS vitals for Rowley

David Trask 1734 son of Samuel and Hannah Dec.22

Dodge Hannah dau of Solomon of Boxwood Bp. May 5,1754

There is no way to determine if they are the people you are looking for I could not find any more info. I searched for Gove and Dodge.
Tina

Re: Lookup Please for James M. St Germain, Obit & US Veterans Gravesites on Ancestry

noyes193 — 2009-10-10 14:33:59Z

I could not believe the inital made the difference.It has never been that picky.I learned something new.
Good luck in you search...... I was meaning to ask you is Nutt your last name my GGrandmother was Sarah McNutt which started with Nutt way back they were from Scotland and Canada,New York state.
Tina

Re: Lookup Please for James M. St Germain, Obit & US Veterans Gravesites on Ancestry

noyes193 — 2009-10-07 19:49:19Z

Are you sure the obit is on Ancestry? What news paper wold it be in I tried the Boston Papers with no results.
I'll try again I hate Ancestry's new format it is not user friendly in my opinion been a member since 2004.
Tina

Re: Lookup Please for James M. St Germain, Obit & US Veterans Gravesites on Ancestry

noyes193 — 2009-10-07 16:00:59Z

I found the gravesite but could not find an obit
Veteran Gravesite
Service Info. S.Sgt. U.S.Army World War 11
B.March 10,1914
D.February 12, 2005
Elmwood Cemetery
Salem St. Haverhill Ma. 01835
I will check the news papers and see if I can find it
Tina

Re: Lookup Please for James M. St Germain, Obit & US Veterans Gravesites on Ancestry

noyes193 — 2009-10-07 22:31:33Z

Guess what I found it I wasn't using the M. and it would not come up
Feb.14 2005
Mr. James M. St. Germain 90 of Bradford died Sat.at Penacook Pl. He was b.Havehill Mar. 10,1914 son of the late Narcisse and Beaulah Mae (Manson)St.Germain. He was educated in the Haverhill Schools. Prior to his retirement he was employed by the Hamel Leather Co. and served the last 8 yrs.as there
chauffer.
During the World War 11 he served in The United States Army Headquaters Co. 6th Tank Destroyer Gp. attaining the rank of Staff Sgt. He served in the Tunsia, Sicily.Rome Arno,So.France,Rhineland and Central Europe and had been awarded The Good Conduct Medal,The European African Middle Eastern Theater Campaign Ribbon.
The last of 18 children his survivors include several nieces and nephews including Robert G.Hanson of Haverhill and several gtandnieces including Lori Norton and Trisha Wesaja,both of Derry, N.H.
Calling Hrs.at the H.L.Farmer and Sons Bradford Funeral home 210 So. Main St. Tues.4-7 Funeral Service at 7 P.M.
Burial Elmwood Cemetery convenience of family

finally got it right..........
Tina

Re: Lookup Please for James M. St Germain, Obit & US Veterans Gravesites on Ancestry

noyes193 — 2009-10-07 21:28:03Z

I did locate the SS death index which had the same info for birth aand death dates. I don't understand why it won't come up if they have an index on it. I tried just the name and than with the dates. The papers are on line thru a Massachusetts library card but I had no luck there.Maybe some one else will give it a try. I will see if I get a hit again
Tina

Looking for Elizabeth (?) Long,

chaussepj — 2009-10-16 00:14:27Z

In the 1900 Salem census for David W Hamilton, list a Elizabeth Long as single and sister in law and in the 1910 census list her as Widowed and a boarder. She dose not show in the 1920 census. I sent for a death record between 1910-1920, but the clerks office could not locate anything. Any help would be great

Greenlawn, Cemetery, Salem Ma

chaussepj — 2009-10-10 21:56:32Z

Looking for an index / list for the Greenlawn Cemetery in Salem, I'm interested in all the Hamilton names. Any Help on where to fine this information

Obituary for Mary Hamilton 1883

chaussepj — 2009-10-10 21:50:40Z

I have Mary (Gavel) Hamilton death record from salem, I'm looking to see if there was an Obituary for her. She died January 28, 1883 in Salem, Massachusetts. Trying to find all her children.

Looking for Henry Hamilton and Mary Dodge

chaussepj — 2009-10-10 21:40:38Z

Can't seem to find any information on Henry Hamilton who married Mary Dodge, I know they had a daughter Mary L Hamilton she was born about 1876-77. The only Mary L Hamilton that fits was living in the Seamen Orphan and Children Friends Society in 1880.

Re: Looking for Henry Hamilton and Mary Dodge

chaussepj — 2009-10-15 00:31:38Z

Thany you, do you have a date, so I can send for the marriage record.

Obituary or Death Record (Salem)

LAgostino — 2009-10-07 22:44:38Z

Hello!
Vitalchek is $38! Yikes!
I'm looking for an obit or a death notice for my g-g grandfather,
Bernard A. Brannigan
b 1866 died 1938 in Salem
Lived out his days on Tremont Street in Salem with his daughter and son-in-law.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Lesley

Re: Obituary or Death Record (Salem)

LAgostino — 2009-10-09 19:32:29Z

Thank you for that form. I appreciate your help!

lesley

Re: Lookup Please for James M. St Germain, Obit & US Veterans Gravesites on Ancestry

DarleneNutt25 — 2009-10-07 20:42:31Z

I Tina......

This is what was in the index on Ancestry.com site. I believe it is the same man I'm looking for as he lived in Havehill, Essex Co., Massachusetts for a long time. I think it is the same man I got the social death security # for on LDS. I see it is listed in the paper dated 21 Apr., 2005. I can't remember the exact date they have on his social death security info but it was was 2005.

It doesn't say what newspaper it is from but it looks like they must have the info on ancestry unless again they just have an index.

Here is the info they have in the index -

United States Obituary Collection
Birth, Marriage & Death
Preview
Name of Deceased: James M. St. Germain
Obituary Date: 21 Apr 2005
There's more to see
Age at Death Death Date
Newspaper Title Newspaper Location
Birth Date Locations Mentioned in Obituary
Other Persons Mentioned in Obituary
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Name: James M. St. Germain
Birth: date
Death: abt 2004
Publication: date - city, MA, Us

Thanks Tina for time.

Darlene

Re: Lookup Please for James M. St Germain, Obit & US Veterans Gravesites on Ancestry

DarleneNutt25 — 2009-10-07 21:46:30Z

Hi Tina......

I'm not sure if this will help or not but this is what I did to get it to come up -

In the search menu I put in James M St Germain & in the box for the death I put 2005 & the box for the place (US) & the state box came up & I click on Massachusetts. A screen then came up & it is listed the 5th one down & it says death abt. 2004 but if you run your mouse over where it says United States Obituary collection it will give the date as 18 Apr., 2005

If it doesn't come up for you thanks anyway Tina for trying. You gave it your all.

Oh, & thanks for the Veteran's burial info. I didn't see it when I wrote you the last msg. Thanks Tina. I appreciate it.

Darlene

Lookup Please for James M. St Germain, Obit & US Veterans Gravesites on Ancestry

DarleneNutt25 — 2009-10-06 22:56:05Z

Hi......

I would really appreciate it if someone had the time & didn't mind looking up an obit. for James M. St. Germain believed died 12 Feb., 2005, Haverhill, Essex Co., Massachusetts on the ancestry site also a lookup for the same man in the US Veterans Gravesites, ca. [see the index below on ancestry]

U.S. Veterans Gravesites, ca.1775-2006
Name: St Germain, James M James M St Germain
Death: dd mm 2005

Thank you for any help you can give me.

Darlene

Re: Lookup Please for James M. St Germain, Obit & US Veterans Gravesites on Ancestry

DarleneNutt25 — 2009-10-10 15:42:50Z

Hi Tina.....

I hate it when search engines are so picky that you have to have the correct spelling of the name or, at least pretty close before you get any results.

Yes, 'Nutt' is my last name (actually my husband's). I've traced his ancestors back to Leicestershire, England abt. 1790 or thereabouts. Some came over to US first landing in Brooklyn, NY (some staying) while others fanned out in US & Canada. I don't know if ours started with 'McNutt' way back further or not. I doublt if I'll ever get too much further back than I've already gotten but working on family history certainly is fun eh!

Darlene

Re: Lookup Please for James M. St Germain, Obit & US Veterans Gravesites on Ancestry

DarleneNutt25 — 2009-10-10 03:08:16Z

Hi Tina......

That's Great Tina. I guess it was by chance then that I found it when I put in his initial.

Thanks again Tina for all your help & not giving up. I appreciate it.

Usually when someone replies to a msg., the board sends me a notice & then I know there has been a reply but I never got any notice this time when you replied or I would have thanked you sooner. It was just by chance that I thought I would look in the forum & found your last msg. with the obit.

Darlene

Re: Obituary or Death Record (Salem)

amich2 — 2009-10-09 18:56:43Z

Sorry, I can't access the obit for you, but I wanted to point out if you order the death record directly from the City of Salem, it is only $10.

The form is at http://www.salem.com/Pages/SalemMA_Clerk/deathform.pdf

Re: Lynn - Gold Rush

amylynne200 — 2009-10-08 02:47:30Z

Thank you so much!!!!!

Narcisse Breton/Bretton and Emma Lambert from Quebec to Lawrence then Methuen

k2outside — 2009-10-21 05:05:06Z

I am researching a family who lived in Lawrence and Methuen. I've been able to connect the wife to her family in Canada, but am striking out on the husband. I'd love to break down the brick wall of the husband. Through Ancestry, I have access to the Drouin collection and I'm finding nothing there for him. I'd also be interested in connecting with other family members who might have information, stories and pictures to share.

Narcisse (Joseph Narcisse?, sometimes Nelson) Breton Mar 1869 - 29 Oct 1931 (unknown source)
+ Marie Alma "Emma" Lambert 3 Apr 1869 - After 1930

1. Joseph Pierre "Peter" Bretton 17 May 1898 – Jul 1976
+ Jeanne Ouelette Abt 1899 -

2. Alcide Bretton Abt Dec 1899 – Before 1910

3. Joseph Louis Emile "Emile" Bretton 29 May 1901 – 28 Apr 1972

4. William Joseph Bretton 5 Sep 1902 – 31 Mar 1983
+ Mary Helen Haley 25 Dec 1916 - 30 Jan 1996, m. Abt 1940 Texas

5. Arthur Breton Abt 1904 –

6. Louis J. Breton 5 Dec 1905 – 7 Mar 1989
+ Marie Carbonneau

7. Antoinette Breton Abt 1908 –
+ Aime Paquin

8. Alcide Joseph Bretton 22 Dec 1909 – 22 May 1981

9. Albert Breton Abt 1912 –

10. Marie R. Breton 24 Feb 1913 – 13 Oct 1913

Emma (born Marie Alma) Lambert was born in Ste. Agathe, Lotbiniere, Quebec, Canada in 1869, daughter of Louis Lambert and Julie Mercier. She and Narcisse were married in late 1896 or early 1897 and it's possible they were married in Lawrence, MA, though I'm not sure how they ended up there. I know for sure her parents stayed in Quebec for the rest of their lives. I can find no record of their marriage in Canada. Their first and third children were also baptised in Emma's home parish in Quebec, but the rest were born in Massachusetts. They later moved to Methuen, though it appears they may have ceased living with each other for the last many years of their lives following the death of their last daughter. I do not know if they divorced. Narcisse does not appear with the family in the 1920 or 1930 census, though he sort of appears with them in the 1926 phone book. Emma is listed in parenthesis after Emile. Narcisse has his own line and, though the street name is the same, he has no street number. Maybe he lived in the shed out back!

Records I have that concern the parents:
1. Massachusetts Birth record for William Joseph Bretton.
2. Parish baptismal records for Peter (1) and Emile (3).
3. 1900 census for the family in Lawrence.
4. 1910 census for the family in Methuen.
5. 1920 census for Emma and the kids.
6. 1930 census for Emma and the kids.
7. Death date - from an unknown source - for Narcisse. I do not have the original record or an obituary. Neither do I have either for Emma.
8. I have various records for the children after they left home, like draft registrations, census records, etc. I also have a New Hampshire death record for William Joseph Bretton, but, despite its late date, it's nearly worthless genealogically!

I am also toying around with researching another Breton family because I think they might be related. But, then, Quebec genealogy only has a small number of surnames, so it could be complete coincidence! That family is Louis Joseph Breton, son of Narcisse Breton and Philoméne D Bilodeau, husband of Angeline, father of Alice, James and Wilfred. I've done a bit of research on this family in Canada and found that Louis did indeed have a brother named Narcisse as well, but he's about seven years older. But, in the same parish where his parents were married, there is another Narcisse Breton who was born in July 1868, the son of Francois Breton and Elmina? Bosberry. Now, I have that my Narcisse was born in March of 1869, but my only source for that information is the 1900 census and, while I've found that to be correct most of the time, it's not 100%. But, usually I find the year to be off, not the month. (But, Louis Breton's 1900 census is correct on the year, but incorrect on the month as he was born in March 1871, not May as it reads!)

Re: Anyone working on Robert Stiles 1637-1690 of Rowley, Mass.

karinStiles — 2009-10-20 21:29:35Z

Looking for confirmation/proof on parentage of Robert Stiles b.(?)1637/m.Eliz Frye. John Stiles and Mary(?) are not the parents. Robert Stiles b.1611-1710 of Dorchestor is really Robert Stilemen,who changed the surname to Stiles. He is father of Robert Stiles b.(?)1637 and twin brother to Richard Stileman b.1611 who lived in Salem MA. Robert and Richard b 1611 are twin sons of Robert Stiles and Elizabeth Lawrence of London Eng.who sailed to MA between 1622-1624 with (?)parents or uncle,Elias Stiles, brother to their father. The twins were approx 11 yrs old. Thks Karin Stiles

Stiles, Robert (?)1637 Parents ?

karinStiles — 2009-10-21 16:42:13Z

John Stiles and Mary(?)are not the parents. Looking for confirmation/proof on parents and grandparents of Robert Stiles of Boxford MA b.(?)1637/m.Eliz Frye MA. History info points to Robert Stiles of Dorchestor b.1611-1710 as Robert Stilemen,who changed his surname to Stiles, father of Robert Stiles b.(?)1637 and he is twin brother to Richard Stileman b.1611 and Alice (Stileman) Sharp who lived in Salem MA. Robert and Richard b 1611 are twin sons of Robert Stiles and Elizabeth Lawrence of London Eng. who sailed to MA between 1622-1624 with(?)parents or uncle,Elias Stiles,a brother to their father. The twins were approx 11-13 yrs old when they immagrated to New England MA. Can anyone confirm or add info? Thks Karin Stiles