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Re: Sue Ellen HENSLEY FREED

looneytune07 — 2009-11-10 03:08:42Z

Tom,
I do not have any last names right now connecting to that name, I wish you could connect to my tree and view it.

Theresa M Hodge
Verona,KY

Re: Sue Ellen HENSLEY FREED

tjmurph2 — 2009-11-09 03:00:51Z

Hi Theresa. I got your reply but still don't know how to use your invite. Maybe you could check your tree and see if you have any Houpt/Houp surnames. Thanks Tom

Re: Sue Ellen HENSLEY FREED

looneytune07 — 2009-11-09 01:51:21Z

Hey I sent aninvite to my tree to tjmurph2 PLEASE let me kow if you get this.....

Theresa

Re: Sue Ellen HENSLEY FREED

looneytune07 — 2009-11-09 01:48:22Z

HELLo Hello,I am on Ancestory.com if I knew where to go on ehre and send you aninvite I would let me see if I can figure it out Theresa

Re: Sue Ellen HENSLEY FREED

tjmurph2 — 2009-11-05 11:55:06Z

Greetings Theresa

How do you get to your family tree? My GGG-GF married into the Hensley family in Clay Co., Ky. Edmund Houpt married Zanah Hensley, D/O Pleasant Hensley, as did his brother Thomas Houpt married Nancy Hensly, sister of Zanah. The Hensley family was from N.C., moved to Tennessee and on to Ky. Edmund and Zanah (Hensley) Houpt were both murdered in Mercer County, Ky. in 1902.

Sue Ellen HENSLEY FREED

looneytune07 — 2009-11-05 02:59:24Z

She was borned November 1884 died December 6th 1964 she was from Clay county KY lived in Laurel county KY and married a man that was 13 yrs older than her and they traveled back and forht from Indiana to London,KY for work.

I have pictures on my family tree of them please feel free to look.
Theresa M Hodge
Verona,KY

OBIT Shirley Brower Binnion 1925-2009

Kandy_BackAgee — 2009-10-25 22:14:30Z

NOTE: I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL. JUST POSTING THE OBITUARY ON SHIRLEY BINNION FROM THE HAMILTON (OH) JOURNAL-NEWS 10/19/09

Shirley Brower Binnion, Age 83, a resident of Otterbein Retirement Home, Lebanon, OH died October 17, 2009 at Otterbein. She was born on November 27, 1925 in Ludlow, KY, the daughter of William and Cora (Miller) Brower. On February 15, 1947, she married Jack Binnion in Newport, KY. She was employed at Western Union, helped her husband at the Binnion Pharmacy and for 15 years was employed as a cafeteria worker at Garfield Junior High School, retiring in 1990. She is survived by her two sons, David W. Binnion (Beth) of Hillsboro, OH and Mark T. Binnion of Hamilton, OH. Funeral services will be held October 19, 2009 at 3 p.m. at the Weigel Funeral Home, 980 N. W. Washington Blvd., Hamilton. Burial will be private at Rose Hill Burial Park. Memorials may be directed to The St. Charles United Methodist Church, c/o Linda Low, Treasurer, 5016 Alert New London Road, Shandon, OH 45063.Online condolences may be made at www.weigelfuneralhome.com

OBIT Henry L. Carson 1926-2009

Kandy_BackAgee — 2009-10-25 11:32:19Z

NOTE: I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL. JUST POSTING THE OBITUARY ON HENRY CARSON FROM THE SPRINGFIELD (OH) NEWS-SUN 10/16/09

Henry L. Carson, 83, of Springfield, OH went to be with the Lord unexpectedly in his home October 14, 2009. He was born on September 14, 1926 in Covington, KY, the son of Rev. Samuel and Pearl Carson. He was a charter member of the High St Church of the Nazarene and a member of First Church of the Nazarene. Henry served on the church board, was music director, and a Sunday school teacher, faithfully serving the Lord and his church for 62 years. Henry was a machinist by trade and retired with 45 years of service with different companies and worked for Security National Bank for 10 years. He leaves to cherish his memory, his loving wife, Virginia L. (Johnson) Carson, to whom he was married 64 years, 3 sons Danny & Audrey Carson of Mount Vernon, WA, Dale & Juanita Carson, and Darrell & Marjorie Carson both of Springfield, OH; 8 grandchildren, 12 great-grandchildren, in laws Bob Dean and Bonnie Carson. Family and friends may call October 18, 2009 from 2-5pm in the RICHARDS, RAFF & DUNBAR MEMORIAL HOME. A celebration of Henry’s life will be October 19, 2009 at 11:00am in the First Church of the Nazarene with Pastor Keith Sarver officiating. Burial to follow in Fletcher Chapel Cemetery. Memorial contributions are requested to First Church of the Nazarene or the American Cancer Society. Expressions of sympathy may be sent to www.richardsraffanddunbar.com

OBIT Peter William Toebbe 2009

Kandy_BackAgee — 2009-10-18 18:14:54Z

NOTE: I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL. JUST POSTING THE OBITUARY ON PETER TOEBBE FROM THE DAYTON (OH) DAILY NEWS 10/13/09

Peter William Toebbe, age 43, of Waynesville, OH died October 11, 2009. Pete was raised in Villa Hills, KY by his parents Frank and Janet Toebbe. He is survived by his wife of 20 years Bonnie Toebbe; children Nick and Katie, his mother Janet; siblings Frank and Kim; and 6 nieces. Funeral services are October 16, 2009 at 1pm at Centerville Community Church with Brian Bennett officiating. Burial will be in Miami Cemetery. Visitation will be October 15, 2009 from 5-8pm at Anderson Funeral Home 1357 E. 2nd Street, Franklin,OH. Please send memorials to trust fund at Fifth-Third Bank in Nick and Katie Toebbe's name or Dayton Christian Athletic Fund. Please visit www.anderson-fh.com to send an on line condolence.

OBIT Frederick J. Lange 1920-2009

Kandy_BackAgee — 2009-10-18 17:58:16Z

NOTE: I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL. JUST POSTING THE OBITUARY ON FREDERICK LANGE FROM THE DAYTON (OH) DAILY NEWS 10/11/09

Frederick J. Lange, age 89, died peacefully at St. Leonard Center on October 8, 2009. He was born on January 31, 1920 in Covington, KY to the late Estelle and Elmer Lange. He graduated from Purcell High School, Xavier University and The FBI Academy. Fred served in the Merchant Marines in World War II and later worked for several years as a special agent for the FBI. After leaving the FBI, he worked for Ledex as a VP of manufacturing and later for Hamilton Caster Mfg. as plant manager. Mr. Lange was very active in the Catholic Church and community. He and his wife of 48 years, Winifred retired to Indian Lake, OH in 1985 until her death in 1993. Fred is survived by his daughter and her husband, Deborah and Daniel Kubasiak, Chicago, IL; son and his wife Fred and Patricia, Westlake, OH; son and his wife Timothy and Judy, Centerville, OH; and daughter and her husband Mary and Paul Warndorf, Round Hill, VA; grandchildren, Tracie Lange Skindzier and Brian Lange; John and Paul Kubasiak; and Maddie, Molly, Jim and Joe Warndorf; great grandchild Joshua Skindzier; and by his sister and her husband Peggy and Jack Pechiney, Cincinnati, OH. He is further survived by nieces, nephews, other relatives and friends. The family will receive friends October 13, 2009 at St Leonard Center, main chapel one hour prior to the mass (10:00-11:00 a.m.), with mass to follow at 11:00 a.m. Burial will follow at Huntsville Cemetery in Huntsville, OH. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to Ohio Parkinson Foundation SW Region, 325 N Third St., Fairborn, OH 45324-4959. Arrangements by Routsong Funeral Home, Centerville Chapel. Condolences and other tributes may be sent to the family at www.routsong.com

OBIT Rosemary Rita Rich 1920-2009

Kandy_BackAgee — 2009-10-18 17:19:47Z

NOTE: I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL. JUST POSTING THE OBITUARY ON ROSEMARY RICH FROM THE DAYTON (OH) DAILY NEWS 10/4/09

Rosemary Rita Rich, age 88, of Oakwood, OH passed away October 1, 2009. Rosemary was born December 7, 1920 in Covington, KY. Before her retirement, Rosemary worked for many years at the Dayton Board of Education. Throughout her life, Rosemary was a devout Christian and a member of Holy Angels Catholic Church. She was preceded in death by her parents, William & Charlotte Rich; her brother Jack; sisters Jean and Charlotte. Rosemary is survived by her brother James E. Rich (Marge) and many nieces, nephews and great nieces and nephews. A Mass of Christian Burial will be held 10:00 a.m. October 7, 2009 at Holy Angels Catholic Church. Burial will follow at Calvary Cemetery. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made to Holy Angels Church, 1322 Brown St., Dayton, OH 45409 or Mother Teresa's Missionaries of Charity, 335 East 145th St., Bronx, NY 10451. Arrangements in care of the Meyer-Boehmer & Reis Funeral Home.

OBIT Paul Douglas McAbee 1962-2009

Kandy_BackAgee — 2009-10-03 01:41:56Z

NOTE: I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL. JUST POSTING THE OBITUARY ON PAUL MCABEE FROM THE DAYTON (OH) DAILY NEWS 9/2/09

Paul Douglas McAbee, age 47 of New Lebanon, OH died August 31, 2009 in Dayton, OH. He was born in Covington, KY on May 11, 1962 to Paul and Carolyn (Taylor) McAbee. He was a graduate of Wayne High School, Wright State University and Ohio University and had been employed by Derm-Path Laboratory in Centerville, OH for 13 years. He had been in the Army reserves. He is preceded in death by his father, Paul. He is survived by his wife of 6 years, Karen (French) McAbee, his mother Carolyn McAbee, Fairborn, OH, his brother Patrick (Katheryn) McAbee, Dayton, OH, his in-laws, Jerry (Tanya) French, New Lebanon, OH, nephew Shawn McAbee and niece Gabby McAbee and aunt and uncle Alice and Roy Price. Funeral services will be held 11:00 A.M. September 4, 2009 at Lindloff-Zimmerman Funeral Home in West Alexandria, OH with Rev. Douglas Bottles officiating. Burial will be in Sugar Grove Cemetery. Friends may call at the funeral home on September 3, 2009 from 5-8PM. Donations may be made to the National Kidney Foundation.

OBIT Robert W. Carlisle 1923-2009

Kandy_BackAgee — 2009-10-02 20:41:11Z

NOTE: I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL. JUST POSTING THE OBITUARY ON ROBERT CARLISLE FROM THE DAYTON (OH) DAILY NEWS 8/9/09

Robert W. Carlisle, age 86 of Dayton, OH passed away August 6, 2009 at his residence. He was born May 13, 1923 in Independence, KY, son of the late Wilbur and Mae (North) Carlisle. Bob proudly served his country in the US Army and was a Prisoner of War during WWII. Mr. Carlisle is survived by his beloved wife of over 50 years, Wilma (Flory); daughter Cathy (Linda Cahoon) Carlisle; 3 grandchildren, Amber (Jeff) Scholl, Joel and Caitlin Carlisle Cahoon; 2 great-grandchildren Alexander William and Sarah Elizabeth Scholl. He was preceded in death by his son Robert John Carlisle and sister Betty Salopek. A Funeral Service will be held 1 PM August 10, 2009 at Baker-Hazel & Snider Funeral Home & Crematory, 5555 Philadelphia Dr. at N. Main St., Dayton, OH 45415. Interment Dayton Memorial Park Cemetery. The family will receive visitors 12-1 PM at the funeral home. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made to the Alzheimer's Association, in Bob's memory. Online memories and condolences may be left for the family at www.bakerhazelsnider.com

Re: Cemeteries in Morning View, KY

DLFurnish — 2009-09-26 22:19:11Z

According to this link: http://vitals.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ky/death/search.cgi
Elsie's middle name began with an "M".
If you obtain a copy of or visit the courthouse to see a copy of the death certificate there will be information that gives the exact name of the cemetery. There are many farm, church and large cemeteries in the area, but finding a burial site from 1947 should not be difficult. I would expect that there could also be an obituary in the local newspaper archives. There may be additional information in the Kenton County Library which is located at 6th and Scott St. in downtown Covington.
If her husband, Franklin Lipscomb, was a minister with his own congregation, then there would certainly be a news article.
Independence, Kenton, KY is located on KY Route 17,in the south central area of Kenton County and is the oldest of the two county seats in Kenton County. It is not too far from Morning View, which is on KY Route 177, South and East of Independence. There are many rural roads that cross from KY 17 to KY 177. I think that "Lipscomb Road" is one of them. The other county seat is Covington, Kenton, KY. There could be a copy of the certificate at Independence and/or Covington. Another clue: In 1947 most of the births took place at the old St.Elizabeth Hospital in Covington. There is a good general map of the area on the web site:
"ePodunk.com" just plug in "Morning View, KY". Make sure it is the one in Kenton County, KY.

My Grandmother was married twice?

MAMMERMAN168 — 2009-09-26 04:30:40Z

I have previously been told by a family member that my Grandmother was actually married for a short time to another man prior to being wed to my Grandfather. I was turned upside down by this as it was a complete shock!

I am unable to locate a record of this as of yet due to the marriage records for the corresponding years not being online. My grandmothers name is Carol Jean Robinson (b. May 6th, 1935 F:Everett Robinson M: Rose Nell Anderson. She married my grandfather Carl Shell (b. March 22, 1930 F: Lincoln Shell M: Betty Lee Simms) on May 8th 1954.

If anyone could help me find any information on her first marriage it would be greatly appreciated. Any record would be a tremendous help in my genealogical upheaval.

Thanks!
Monica Ammerman

Re: Cemeteries in Morning View, KY

WSchmiade — 2009-09-25 19:22:35Z

What was the name of the person of whom you are searching? There are several old family plots that I know of in "Morning View". I don't recall having seen the Lipscomb surname, but I can check. Also, any other related members.

Re: Cemeteries in Morning View, KY

JohnTippet44 — 2009-09-25 13:40:07Z

Independence is indeed a town in Kenton County, but it also has a rather large cemetery by that name. It is highly likely the burial was in this cemetery. The records for this cemetery are maintained by the folks who also manage the Highland Cemetery. See: http://www.highlandcemetery.com/ If you contact them, they can look up the burial information.

John Charles Tippet
johntippet@cox.net

Re: Cemeteries in Morning View, KY

Ann Bergelt — 2009-09-25 11:39:37Z

Her death certificate is available to be seen and copied on Ancestry.com's database of Kentucky Death Records.

It does say the Lipscombs' residence was rural Kenton County, in Morning View. However, under cremation/burial information it says "Independence". I don't know if that's an area or name of a cemetery. I hope someone local can help you more specifically

Re: Philadelphia St, Covington

DLFurnish — 2009-08-22 07:14:03Z

A good source for information about some personal and public information, ie: names, families, occupations, status, etc., for ANY addresses would be the City and Telephone Directories for any city of decent size. In this case, The Kenton County Public Library, on Scott St. in downtown Covington, has a very good collection of directories of various types. I feel sure that there will be someone who would gladly look up that information for you. I waa able to trace all of my extended family in Covington by using the city directories from before the early 1900's to the present time. There were a few women listed as "sgl" with the company they worked for also listed.
And by the way, although the area is generally known as "Main Strasse" now, "Main Strasse" generaly applied to Main Street between 2nd St. on the north, and south to Pike St. I think "Main Strasse" came about as a publicity ploy when the Bell Tower was built on the west end of 6th St, on the edge of Goebel Park.(Played a lot of baseball there in the 30's-40's.)
"Peazleburg" comes to mind for the west side of Covington, from the river to 12th St. and from the C & O Railroad Tracks west to Western Ave., anyone remember that name? What about the "Shirley Theatre" on Main, the "Family Theatre" on Holman, the Broadway on 7th, the Liberty and Madison on Madison, the Kentucky at Rittes's Corner,(Latonia)and the Derby on Decourcey,(Rosedale)? The good old "growing up days" in Covington. Good hunting!

Re: Will Do FREE LOOK-UPS From Kentucky Birth & Death Records

giannini — 2009-09-22 02:49:00Z

You are welcome. But ...you did not answer my question about 1860. If the Frank and Sophia married in 1858 then they have to be somewhere in 1860. Have you found them? If you have not I would be happy to continue looking because hard to find census records are the most fun to find. It might also answer the question of Joseph's birth depending on what date the census was taken on. Please do let me know what else you find.

Margaret

Re: Will Do FREE LOOK-UPS From Kentucky Birth & Death Records

giannini — 2009-09-21 22:21:17Z

Hi Rob. I can't read the writing at the top of the page for the first column but I believe it would be the Book# and then the Page#. I checked your posts to get more information on your ancestors. You said that they were in Kenton Co. in 1860 but I can't locate them in that census. I did find them in 1870 and 1880 in Marshall County, West Virginia. In 1870 the census states that the first child Joseph is 8 years old. I know that 1880 lists him as 20. Do you have the 1860 census? If you do I would be curious to see it so maybe you could supply me with the particulars to locate it. I did also find a Sophia SHAMER listed in the 1900 census for Ohio Co., West Virginia. She has very similar information to Sophia SHANER. It does list her as a widow even though it states she has no children. But perhaps she somehow became estranged from them? And the immigration date is wrong. Have you checked out this lady? You might be able to track down her death information. I also saw a query where you were looking for an obituary in California. If you go to the Rootsweb.com site you can join a mailing list called "California Death Index" that has people who look up obituaries for free.

Margaret

Re: Will Do FREE LOOK-UPS From Kentucky Birth & Death Records

giannini — 2009-09-20 22:51:34Z

Hi Rob. I checked the Kenton County, Ky. site and the marriage is listed there. It is a transcription and Clara's last name is spelled "GARLING". Go to Kentucky Genweb: http://www.kygenweb.net/

Click on Kenton County

Click on Marriages on the left side.

Under Images for grooms click on S2b. Look for "Frank SHONER" about 2/3 way down the page.

Margaret

Re: Stella B. Field Burial

shelley367 — 2009-09-01 20:41:49Z

Do you have her death certif? They still cost $6.00 and her burial place should be listed.

Order from the Ky Office of Vital Statistics.

Re: Philadelphia St, Covington

chimborazo — 2009-09-05 17:03:12Z

The area around St. John Church on Pike St was called Lewisburg. I'm not sure if that would have included the Main St. district since the Catholics in that area would have attended St. Aloysius. The only other nickname I remember is Madisonville which would be the area around St. Mary's Cathedral--oh wait, I rmemeber Helentown, too. I associate that one with the old St. Joe's Church on east 12 th street.

Re: Philadelphia St, Covington

chimborazo — 2009-09-03 18:50:43Z

Peaselburg is the area in Covington located around St. Augustine Church, esp around 19th St. I grew up there. I've been told that "peasel" is a plattdeutsch word for a not so nice place to drink beer!

Re: Philadelphia St, Covington

chimborazo — 2009-08-20 17:54:36Z

I don't know for certain what was at that address, but I seriously doubt it was a hospital or nursing home. Philadelphia is in what is considered Maine Strasse, an area of old German homes. 524 was probably a private residence or possibly an apartment house.

Re: HEINEN and LITZLER and related families

nthamann1 — 2009-09-21 14:48:59Z

I have information regarding another son of Anthony & Margaret, not listed above. He is my g-g-grandfather, John Henry Thamann, born in 1858 in the village of Theine, just outside of Alfhausen, Germany. I have his baptism records and they list his parents as "Johann Anton Thamann" (John Anthony) and "'Margaretha" (Margaret) who is listed as "geb. Prieshof" or, "born Prieshof".

Please let me know if you have ever seen anything to support this information. Thank you.

-Nate Thamann

Cemeteries in Morning View, KY

jerupert — 2009-09-25 00:28:47Z

My husband's aunt, Elsie Rupert Lipscomb, died 15 January 1947 in childbirth at age 24. According to her obituary, she was buried at Morning View, KY. We will be in that area early next month and would like to try to find her grave. I don't have anything that tells me where the cemetery is located other than Morning View. According to family tradition, her husband, Franklin Lipscomb, was a preacher and had his own church in that area. If anyone could give me any information on where to look for the cemetery, I'd really appreciate it.

Re: German ancestors in Covington/Kenton Co

tjmurph2 — 2009-09-15 12:20:26Z

All of the ill feelings against Germans in USA, when they changed street names, business names, etc. happened during WWI not WWII

Re: Philadelphia St, Covington

DonaldLFurnish09 — 2009-09-04 18:14:45Z

Thanks for clearing the "Peaselburg" question up.
My sometimes faulty memory goes back to the late 1930's when the 4th District school was being built on Scott St. at 15th. The 4th District students were split up and assigned to the district school on Holman St., at 17th?? and to the district school on the eastern end of 18th or 19th Sts. Over the time it took to build the 4th, students were reassigned from one to the other, depending upon the grade they were in. I attended both, or should I say all three. I lived on Scott, between 15th and 16th, and completed the 6th grade at the "New" 4th District in 1942. Graduated from Holmes in 1948. Anyone out there from the area around the 4th District in that time period?
New questions: What was the area from about 12th St north to the Ohio River and from Russell St, or the railroad to Ludlow known as before "MainStrasse" was used? Nickname? What were the "nicknames" for the various areas of Covington? Thanks.

Re: Philadelphia St, Covington

NLAustin — 2009-08-24 02:14:35Z

I did as you suggested. It is occupied by a single family with a border.

Philadelphia St, Covington

NLAustin — 2009-08-19 22:45:29Z

I am trying to find out what was located at 524 Philadelphia St, Covington in 1937-1938. Hospital, nursing home, business, private residence? Both great- grandparents died at that address. Normally that wouldn’t be unusual except they were divorced and she had remarried.

Thanks,
Nancy

Re: Will Do FREE LOOK-UPS From Kentucky Birth & Death Records

usmcmpowers — 2009-08-19 13:05:34Z

Can you do a lookup for Addie (Green) Ross, born abt.1864 in Boone County and died in Covington? between 1900 and 1914? She was married to Jefferson D. Ross and had one daughter, Pansy Blanche Ross. I find them in the 1900 Census in Covington and J.D. Ross is listed as a widower on his death Cert. in 1914. I cannot find Addie after the 1900 Census.
Thanks,
Marianne Powers
marianne_powers@att.net

Re: Eliza Marshall

DJHUD824 — 2009-09-19 05:19:03Z

I have some info now. My SENOURS (Wilford and Eliza) are in the 1880 Fair, Platte, Missouri Census. They were married and have a child (Perry W. Senour 12). I know that my great grandfather Perry Werner Senour bought plots for them at the Richwood Cememtery in Ky. From that date on the rest of my family has been buried there. Eliza's maiden name is Marshall. Her brother Thomas and he is buried right across from Wilford and Eliza (one headstone). Perry (their only son is buried beside them with his only wife Fannie Senour. Perry W. and Fanny Senour had a son my great grandfather Harvey Senour who married Lena Holtzworth. THey had 2 daughters Mary Elizabeth and Loretta Senour.....Mary Elizabeth is my grandmother. All of these people are buried at Richwood Pres. Church Cememtery. So I found them.....Thank you for all the help.

Re: Eliza Marshall

DJHUD824 — 2009-09-23 13:28:36Z

Could you please send me your e-mail address and I have some info you may want. I am from Northern Ky.

Re: Eliza Marshall

kleine9 — 2009-09-20 21:12:05Z

For reason unknown I have had Perry Werner Senour listed as female with no descendant listing. It is interesting that your Perry W. wife was Fannie. In my records are the following: 1. Bryant Senour m Ann McCollum; 2. Wilford Senour m. Sarah Wayman; 3. Tilman Wilford Senour m. Anna Cox;4a Ulysses Grant Senour m. Frances (Fannie) Fern White (my great aunt); 4b. Wilford Easton Senour; 4c. Perry Warner Senour. Looks like Warner should be Werner. Ann McColum's father was John McCollum and his wife Ann. This John died in 1796 in Campbell Co. KY. Your Ann Senour was sister to my John McCollum. So we are very distant cousing. I am also descended from Marshall. Was your Marshall from northern Kentucky? I am trying to connect my Sarah Marshall

Re: German ancestors in Covington/Kenton Co

nascott769 — 2009-09-15 14:45:25Z

That is very true. My grandfather who lived in Covington went to prison because of the antisemitism during WW1. He also had a street named after him (between Covington and Latonia), and they change it's name.

Re: Will Do FREE LOOK-UPS From Kentucky Birth & Death Records

seele01 — 2009-09-22 23:16:55Z

Sorry about that, I forgot to mention it. No, no matter how I have searched, I have NEVER found the 1860 census for Frank (Franz) Josef (Joseph) Schaner (Schoner..etc). Three generations of my family have searched and never found it.

Honestly, I dont think he was recorded, for whatever reason. It is extremely unfortunate. Maybe you will have better luck than I have...but I just cannot seem to find Frank in 1860 ANYWHERE, not just in Kentucky. I have tried U.S.-wide searches that have also come up with nothing.

Anyway, thanks again for the help! Maybe you can succeed where I have failed.

Re: Will Do FREE LOOK-UPS From Kentucky Birth & Death Records

seele01 — 2009-09-22 00:49:01Z

Once again, thank you very much for the detailed reply.

I think you are right that it says "Book#" and then "page#". I re-checked my grandmother's old notes about the record of the Franz Schoner/Clara Yarling marriage, and it states-

"22 Nov 1858 Marriage to Clara Yarling, Kenton County, Kentucky, USA. County Seat Kenton Co Book 2 Page 151 microfilm #3189B, married by James Arnold, Witness - William Roden."

So yeah, your right, it must be "Book 2 p.151". What is a "Book" though? Is it a book of marriages in the Kenton County Courthouse? Im still confused here lol.

And yes, those 1870 and 1880 census records in West Virginia is Franz Joseph Schoner and his family. As you can see, the two younger children's ages are consistant, except for my relation, Franz's eldest son Joseph Frank. In 1870, Joseph Frank is 8yo and in 1880 he is his proper age of 20. It looks like in 1870 they fibbed his age -2 years to make it look like "Sofia" had him when she was 16, not 14.

As for "Sofia Shamer", I found that literaly two days ago, and saved her record to my Ancestry.com "Shoebox". Everything you said is correct...it could be her, but the wrong immigration and number of children is wrong. I would find it strange that it was her, however, as Sofia/Clara Yarling and Franz Josef Schoner had 3 children living in the area at the time. You would think she would live with her children, right? Anyway your right, I am currently tracking down her death information as we speak via the Digitalized West Virginia Vital Research Records site. I will let you know what I find.

Anyway, once again, I REALLY appreciate your help. I am not the biggest fan of Ancestry.com's business strategy, but I AM a fan of these forums, and the kind and helpful people like you who go out of your way to help others solve their genealogical problems. Thank you!

Rob Williams

Re: Do original marriage books survive?

seele01 — 2009-09-20 22:42:07Z

They dont have it? I thought they did, as I just ordered from the FHC the Kenton County, Kentucky -

Marriage bonds, v. 1-2 1840-1876 | FHL US/CAN Film 551093
Marriage licenses, v. 1-2 1840-1865 | FHL US/CAN Film 551096

Or are you looking for the actual marriage certificates? I am confused here. In fact, I was confused when I ordered those two records, because I wanted a marriage from 22 Nov 1858 I know exists there...(my grandmother saw it, but it was before scanning microfilm was easy).

Anyway, thanks for the help and I hope you figure out your problem. Later.

Rob Williams

Re: Will Do FREE LOOK-UPS From Kentucky Birth & Death Records

seele01 — 2009-09-20 22:35:07Z

What a kind service you all are offering!

Does anyone happen to have a CD or access to marriages in Covington, Kenton, Kentucky, in 1858? I am looking for the marriage of "Franz/Frank...Josef/Joseph...Schaner/Shaner/Schoener/Schoner" (sorry for the multiple spellings) to Clara Yarling on the 22 November 1858 in Kenton County, Kentucky.

I know the original poster sayed they only B/D records starting at 1911...but maybe someone else has marriage records going back farther? I know the record exists somewhere, as my grandmother once recorded it...and I just want to doublecheck what she saw.

Anyway, thanks for the help, I appreciate it!

Rob Williams

Re: Will Do FREE LOOK-UPS From Kentucky Birth & Death Records

seele01 — 2009-09-21 19:17:18Z

Just a quick addendum-

The reason I want the most original record as possible is I am wondering (if it gives) the age of Clara G/Yarling. I think she was born in 1846, and this marriage was in 1858, which would make her 12 years old, and then I know for a fact that her husband Frank Schoner's eldest son was born in 1860, which would have made her 14/15 years old.

Obviously, her extreme young age confounds me, so I am very curious to get as much information as I can from the oldest marriage record possible. I am aware that many times when you order a "New" copy of a marriage record (or any BMD record) from the State, you often recieve an "abridged" copy that often contains minimal info, leaves out certain info, or has mis-interpreted info. That is why I would rather find a microfilm of the original, and my last ditch solution would be to order a new copy from the State.

Anyway, thanks again!

Rob

Re: Will Do FREE LOOK-UPS From Kentucky Birth & Death Records

seele01 — 2009-09-21 19:11:10Z

Thank you VERY much!!! That is definately them. That was very kind of you!

Next to their names, it mentions "____ 2 page 151" (I cannot read the column header for the "2"). Is it What do those numbers correspond to? Microfilm? Book? Is there any way to get the original marriage certificate?

Anyway, thanks again for the help; I really appreciate it!

Rob Williams

Re: German ancestors in Covington/Kenton Co

kyblueblood13 — 2009-09-16 00:48:17Z

Well I didn't mention any war but it carried over for both wars and that is what I was told and I live in the area so I believe it. I am talking 1930's

Re: German ancestors in Covington/Kenton Co

kyblueblood13 — 2009-09-15 11:51:04Z

Depending on the year of the census, Im thinking they may have lied about where they were born because of the anti
semitism of the time against germans. in this area, they
closed newspapers that were german , businesses, during
Hitler's regime.

Re: German ancestors in Covington/Kenton Co

kyblueblood13 — 2009-08-20 20:31:55Z

I have to dig up the paper files, I know I have more info on John.. Marg/his wife is unclear.
I willl get back to you though.Its said John came over from
Germany, but it may have been a generation prior. this is my more difficult line.

Re: German ancestors in Covington/Kenton Co

bgroeschen1 — 2009-09-14 19:09:34Z

Any info would be greatly appreciated.
According to Albert Adam Rider's death cert., his parents were both born in Germany. However, the 1900 Whites Tower, Kenton Co, Ky. census lists his Father born in Ohio and his Mother born in Ky.

Thanks so much!

Re: Will Do FREE LOOK-UPS From Kentucky Birth & Death Records

BonnieMartin54 — 2009-08-18 14:50:44Z

Can you find information on Noble Hunter, born abt 1810 in Kenton county, Kentucky, his parents, date of birth, etc.

Thank You
Bonnie Martin

Re: Philadelphia St, Covington

dbell7246 — 2009-08-22 13:48:48Z

A good way to check on who lived at 524 Philadelphia would be to locate your family members there in the 1930 census. If you can view that page, you'll see whether it was a multiple family home by the people listed as living there.

Someone just noted an interest in old Covington theatres. I found this page the other day when I thought about the Family Theatre on Main Street and was wondering if it was still standing. It is and there's a photo.
http://www.cinematour.com/theatres/us/KY/2.html

Re: Philadelphia St, Covington

dbell7246 — 2009-09-05 19:45:38Z

I grew up at Pike & Main and don't remember ever hearing a name for that part of town. I'm sure if there was one my grandparents would have mentioned it since they lived in Covington all their lives - late 1800's-1970's.