The original post by ryturne1 had the birth date as October 1863 and was likely based upon the death certificate which was mentioned in the inquiry. Both death certificates and tombstones can be erroneous their veracity dependent upon the wisdom of the person providing the information. In this instance, the issue was the parents of Florence Belle Shaw/Lawlyes rather than the date of birth or dob. The dob issue may be resolvable by resorting to a review of census data.