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Re: Nelson/ Pentecost Reunion

llpd2 — 2013-04-14 15:30:11Z

I, too, am a Pentecost from the Union County bunch; but I know nothing of the Nelsons. Although I've not lived in Indiana for many years, I have done a lot of genealogy and have visited the area as part of my quest. I'd love to touch bases and review any possible connection. Pls contact me directly at... palladin2@aol.com

Look forward to meeting another relative.
Cordially...Linda Pentecost Drake

Nelson/ Pentecost Reunion

wisem169 — 2013-04-13 16:02:11Z

I am a desendent on the Nelson and Pentecost families from Union County Indiana. I have a photo of the 1915 Nelson/Pentecost reunion taken in Koscuisko Couny Indiana.
I wanted to know if there is still a reunion taking place. I had an aunt who atended one back in the 1980's or 1990's. I would love to attend one.
Any help would be apprecitiated.

Re: Hartman/Lutes

KA_Coffey — 2013-03-21 17:44:24Z

That is because they do not have the dates you need. Contact Shelby County historical society / library / put a querie on the page. Just so much can be done online. The rest is road work and lots of writing.

K

Re: Hartman/Lutes

jodilange82 — 2013-03-21 17:41:12Z

I tried looking there but never found anything, not even records of Viola. Maybe I overlooked something or wasn't looking in the right places.

Re: Hartman/Lutes

KA_Coffey — 2013-03-21 17:32:59Z

Contact Shelby County Genweb http://www.shelbycountyindiana.org/index.php

They have items on their page about the home

Re: Hartman/Lutes

KA_Coffey — 2013-03-21 17:28:51Z

You may have to go to or contact Shelby County about the children's home records.

Re: Hartman/Lutes

KA_Coffey — 2013-03-21 17:27:55Z

I think that Robert was about a year old when Hazel married Lutes.

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
Name: Robert L Hartman
Birth Year: 1924
Race: White, citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Indiana
State of Residence: Indiana
County or City: Fayette

Enlistment Date: 22 Jul 1942
Enlistment State: Indiana
Enlistment City: Fort Benjamin Harrison
Branch: Air Corps
Branch Code: Air Corps
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Army of the United States - includes the following: Voluntary enlistments effective December 8, 1941 and thereafter; One year enlistments of National Guardsman whose State enlistment expires while in the Federal Service; Officers appointed in the Army of
Source: Civil Life

Education: 1 year of high school
Civil Occupation: Semiskilled occupations in manufacture of automobiles, n.e.c.
Marital Status: Single, without dependents
Height: 69
Weight: 135

Source Information:

National Archives and Records Administration. U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.
Original data: Electronic Army Serial Number Merged File, 1938-1946 [Archival Database]; World War II Army Enlistment Records; Records of the National Archives and Records Administration, Record Group 64; National Archives at College Park, College Park, MD.

Description:
This database contains information on about 8.3 million men and women who enlisted in the U.S. Army during World War II. Information contained in this database usually includes: name of enlistee, army serial number, residence (county and state), place of enlistment, enlistment date, grade, army branch, component, term of enlistment, birthplace, year of birth, race and citizenship, height and weight, education, and marital status.

Re: Hartman/Lutes

jodilange82 — 2013-03-21 17:27:52Z

I was thinking maybe Robert had also been there at some point but I cannot find any record of him or other records of the Gordon Children's Home.

Re: Hartman/Lutes

KA_Coffey — 2013-03-21 17:22:58Z

Viola (they mis-spelled her last name) was in Gordon's Childrens home in Shelby County Indiana in 1940

Name: Viola Lutos
Titles & Terms:
Event: Census
Event Year: 1940
Event Place: Addison Township, Shelby, Indiana, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 11
Marital Status: Single
Race (Original):
Race (Standardized): White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):
Relationship to Head of Household (Standardized):
Birthplace: Indiana
Estimated Birth Year: 1929
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Enumeration District Number: 73-9
Family Number:
Sheet Number and Letter: 11B
Line Number: 63
NARA Publication Number: T627
NARA Roll Number: 1094
Digital Folder Number: 005459850
Image Number: 00592

Re: Hartman/Lutes

KA_Coffey — 2013-03-21 17:20:11Z

1940 Richard was living with his mother in Columbia Township, Fayette County, Indiana. The only FRAZEE I know is a school in Connersville (Fayette County). I will post as and If I find.

K

Name: Richard Eugene Lutes
Titles & Terms:
Event: Census
Event Year: 1940
Event Place: Columbia Township, Fayette, Indiana, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 2
Marital Status: Single
Race (Original):
Race (Standardized): White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):
Relationship to Head of Household (Standardized): Son
Birthplace: Indiana
Estimated Birth Year: 1938
Residence in 1935:
Enumeration District Number: 21-1
Family Number: 48
Sheet Number and Letter: 3A
Line Number: 14
NARA Publication Number: T627
NARA Roll Number: 1042
Digital Folder Number: 005459798
Image Number: 00009

Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Hazel Lutes F 38 Indiana
Son Richard Eugene Lutes M 2 Indiana

Ahhh Robert was in Rush County in 1940
Name: Robert Lutes
Titles & Terms:
Event: Census
Event Year: 1940
Event Place: Rushville Township, Rush, Indiana, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 16
Marital Status: Single
Race (Original):
Race (Standardized): White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):
Relationship to Head of Household (Standardized): Lodger
Birthplace: Indiana
Estimated Birth Year: 1924
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Enumeration District Number: 70-15
Family Number: 240
Sheet Number and Letter: 12A
Line Number: 13
NARA Publication Number: T627
NARA Roll Number: 1091
Digital Folder Number: 005459847
Image Number: 00463
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Sam Finney M 51 Indiana
Wife Mable Finney F 48 Indiana
Son George Finney M 15 Indiana
Lodger Robert Lutes M 16 Indiana

Re: Hartman/Lutes

jodilange82 — 2013-03-21 17:06:10Z

Thank you.

Can you find anything on an orphanage or children's home that they (Robert, Viola, or Richard) may have lived in? Richard told me that at one time he lived in a home called Frazee. Also, I thought I found a census record that listed Viola in a children's home. However, I have not found anything on my grandfather (Robert Lawrence - Last Name "Lutes" or "Hartman") who I am told was also raised in an orphanage/children's home.

Thank you again!!

Re: Hartman/Lutes

KA_Coffey — 2013-03-21 15:49:50Z

Census was on Ancestrylibraryedition
Marriage record was on Familysearch.org

K

Re: Hartman/Lutes

jodilange82 — 2013-03-21 15:45:40Z

Thank you so much. I was not sure where so I posted in several counties that I thought were possibilities. With help of others I found the 1940 Census and Marriage information of Andy and Hazel. However, I have never seen the 1930 Census, thank you. What source did you find the 1930 Census and what information did you enter to find them?

I am also looking for more information on the William Hartman and Cora McNutt.

The information that is confusing to me is that my grandfather (Robert Lawrence Hartman) went by last name "Lutes" until he tried to enter into the military and officials told him his last name was "Hartman". I am trying to locate his actual birth records that would state his legal name and hopefully his biological parents. All the census information points to Andy being the father but stories are told that Hazel was taken advantage of and so I not sure if he truly is the father or not. Some could maybe have thought she was being taken advantage of simply because of the age difference. I don't know, so I am trying to find out.

Thank you so much!

Re: Hartman/Lutes

KA_Coffey — 2013-03-21 15:25:10Z

Wrong County.....they were in (1930) Union, RUSH COUNTY, Indiana

Andy Lutes 60 (Born Kentucky)
Hazel Lutes 28 (Born Indiana)
Robert Lutes 6
Viola Lutes 1
[1 5/12]

In 1940 Fayette County Indiana
Andy Lutes 74 claims he is still married
Thurman Dorter 35 (Boarder)

Name: Andy Lutes
Event: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Mar 1925
Event Place: , Rush,
Other Event Place:
Registration Place: , Rush, Indiana, United States
Marriage License Date:
Residence: Franklin Indiana
Gender: Male
Age (Estimated): 51
Number of Prior Marriages: Twice
Race: White
Birth Date: 25 Dec 1874
Birthplace: Kentucky
Father's Name: Pete Lutes
Mother's Name: Sylvia Richerson
Spouse's Name: Hazel Hartman
Spouse's Residence: Rush
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age (Estimated): 23
Spouse's Number of Prior Marriages:
Spouse's Race: White
Spouse's Birth Date: 16 Apr 1902
Spouse's Birthplace: Laurel Indiana
Spouse's Father's Name: Wm Hartman
Spouse's Mother's Name: Cora Mcnutt
Informant's Name:
Officiator's Name: John P Stetch
Page:
Record Number:
Reference:
Film Number: 001784418
Digital Folder Number: 004186011
Image Number: 00184
Number of Images: 1
Batch Number: M02123-2

Re: Hartman/Lutes

thomasker2 — 2013-03-20 17:18:39Z

I’m not related to any member of this family.

1940 is the last available census at this time.

DOB's + birthplaces are needed for all family members.

Re: McQuoid family in Union Co. Ind.

lkjohnston_1 — 2013-03-20 14:14:34Z

Hey there.....I'm new to this ancestry type thing. I've been trying to work thru some stuff with Larry's family and am starting on my own....is there a way we can "link up" on here? My girls are starting to show some interest in their heritage and Lucy especially (she met Gina a few days ago and her daughter) is interested our IReland heritage.

Re: Edith Fraley Sue Roberts of Liberty

llpd2 — 2013-03-16 20:02:58Z

Would like to know if Donald is related to my Uncle Paul Roberts. I am related to that family thru my grandmother Elizabeth Witt Pentecost. Pls reply directly to my email address at palladin2@aol.com.

Many thanks......Linda Pentecost Drake

Stevenson, Hamilton

TCRAIL — 2013-03-14 19:59:59Z

Searching for the county in which Allan L.T. Stevenson and Nellie May Hamilton were married. It was either Union or Wayne Counties in Indiana. It would be about 1930 to 1933, Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Theresa

Re: Edith Fraley Sue Roberts of Liberty

TCRAIL — 2013-03-13 21:45:04Z

Donald Roberts married Sue Smith in Liberty. He is on facebook I think. I know he has an e-mail address. If you need it let me know. I am the aunt of Donald. Theresa

Re: Wallace

TCRAIL — 2013-03-13 21:37:17Z

Try Mt. Vernon, Columbus, Centerburg, Ohio. I know George and his children were in Mt.Vernon and Centerburg. They worked in a paper factory and a glass factory there. Hope this helps. Theres

Re: Anyone know what is included in Union County marriage records?

TCRAIL — 2013-03-13 21:21:04Z

When did they start taking applications for marriage? The application should give me more information. Thanks Theresa

Re: Wallace/Dawes

TCRAIL — 2013-03-13 20:21:31Z

Try Columbus, Ohio; Mt. Vernon, Ohio; Knox Co. Ohio.
This is where I found other Wallaces. George, Bernard, Willard, Marie, Charles. Hope this will help you.

Re: Pitzinger/Weiss/Lamb

hlreeves43 — 2013-03-12 17:01:52Z

I found some on Flora Bella Lamb

Re: Pitzinger/Weiss/Lamb

hlreeves43 — 2013-03-10 06:55:54Z

Hi,
I am also searching for information on Philip Pitzinger he is my 3 great grandfather. I was wondering did you by chance find who his parents are.? I have looked about everywhere.

Thanks
Heather Reeves

Hartman/Lutes

jodilange82 — 2013-03-06 15:20:35Z

I am looking for information on Andy Lutes and Hazel Hartman (aka Hazel Lutes). I am not able to locate their parents. My grandfather (Robert) was son of Hazel (and possibly Andy). My grandfather went by two names also; Robert Lawrence Lutes and Robert Lawrence Hartman. Hartman is the name he used when he married my grandmother Gloria. Any information would be helpful. It is thought that Robert had 2 siblings (Viola and Richard), but we are not sure if they share the same parents.

Re: Sheriff George Sexton

mrsmindyk — 2013-02-24 03:13:51Z

Was Keith your father? Brenda your mom? I'm just guessing from your user id that you are their daughter. My grandparents are Lucille and Chester Burke. Luke's wife, Martha, was my grandpa Chester's sister.

Re: Wallace/Dawes

TCRAIL — 2013-02-05 03:23:35Z

Henry E. Wallace born 1890 in Union County, Indiana and died in Mount Liberty, Ohio on May 27,1959. Son George E. Wallace had a son Charles A. Wallace who married my sister Helen Y. Hamilton Hope this helps. Thank you tcup2000@yahoo.com

Re: Rudolf Hess Ancestors

smileygower — 2013-01-11 13:25:45Z

I found out that Rudolf Hess is my uncle my grandmothers Great grandomthers mom is one of his sisters......

Re: Sheriff George Sexton

keljos2003 — 2012-11-19 19:46:00Z

I too would be interested in knowing any information about his death. He was my uncle (my fathers brother) and passed away before I was able to know him. My sister and I are trying to find out any information we can because my mom tells us the same that my grandmother didn't believe he would commit suicide.

Re: Rudolf Hess Ancestors

nicoletattrie — 2012-11-16 03:35:45Z

I am also wondering about being related to him... I have heard stories of being related to Rudolf through my family since we are partially head. I old at someone down the lines immigrated to Canada and dropped a letter in the name Hess which I'm assuming it used to be spelled hoess just like his.. not sure if this was to protect themselves from having the same last name? And I was also watching a show on tv called Hitler's children and Rudolph grandson was on.. my family and him have a shocking resemblance in appearance.. one name I know in my family is a Milton Hess? Can anyone help me out? - Nicole from ontario

Re: John S Davis

dannancy705 — 2012-09-19 16:00:29Z

Thank You for the reply and the information. I have previously been in contact with Karen Creamer who put me in touch with Julie Schlesselman Genealogy and Local History Division Branch Manager at the Franklin County Public Library District 919 Main Street Brookville, Indiana 47012. Julie informed me that nothing could be found that I did not already have. I also have had a posting on the Franklin County Brick Wall for a couple of years with no response. I was unaware of his Union County birth until a few days ago when I received his Civil War records from the National Archives

Re: John S Davis

KA_Coffey — 2012-09-19 14:48:30Z

I found them in Ray Township, Franklin County IN in the 1850 census. They have his middle initial wrong, but you know how the census goes. He is with his parnets:

Eliska Davis 58
Elizabeth Davis 54
John L Davis 18
Lydia A Davis 16
Elisha Davis 9

I have done research on the DAVIS name in Union County because there are 4 different families. The name ELISKA is NOT a Union county name. Your best bet would be Franklin County where the name DAVIS is almost like SMITH.

KACoffey

John S Davis

dannancy705 — 2012-09-18 16:22:14Z

I am searching for any information about the family of my GGGrandfather John S Davis. His Civil War Records from the National Archives say that he was born in Union County Indiana and was 32 and living in Franklin County at the time of his enlistment in 1864. I do know that he married Sarah Ann McFarland ( Mcfarlin ) on September 9th 1852 and in 1860 they were living in Franklin County with their children Joseph, Robert, Martha and Hannah. My GGrandfather John Henry was born in 1863. The family later settled in Woodford County Illinois and John S Davis passed away in 1871. I know nothing at all and have no leads about who his parents may have been and any information will be greatly appreciated. Thanks !

Re: Wallace/Dawes

TCRAIL — 2012-08-28 00:53:45Z

My sister married Charles Arthur Wallace son of George Wallace. He says there is a grandfather Henry Wallace in his family. They lived in Brownsville, Union County, Indiana. Hope this is the same family. contact me at tcup2000@yahoo.com

Simon or William Martin, early Union resident

gmmiller174 — 2012-08-27 14:29:15Z

I'm looking for any information on Simon Martin (b. 1760, Maryland, d. 1839) in Union County. Per family history collected in 1946 Simon Martin and family moved from Delaware and were early residents of the area that is now Union County. Simon's sons (Simon II and William) moved to Rush County after a decade or so, but Simon and his wife reportedly remained in Union County and are and buried there. There also is an alternate theory on the Internet that Simon I may have been "William". Information on either names would be helpful.

Re: Margaret Price/Margaret Showalter/Elizabeth Swallow

Justinavickerman — 2012-06-28 17:40:23Z

my email is justinavic@gmail.com

Thank you so much for any help. I think it is wonderful that there are people willing to help others. I have been posting photos and have posted copies of what documents I have to help other people.

I really appreciate your help.

Justina

Re: Margaret Price/Margaret Showalter/Elizabeth Swallow

joanlince — 2012-06-28 17:20:54Z

Justina, I hoped to send you a report on what I have on Ephraim Price Showalter, but it's in Word format and I find that RootsWeb won't accept such a file. If you would like to give me your email address, I'll send the report to you directly. It may have some useful suggestions for your further research.
Joan Lince

Re: Margaret Price/Margaret Showalter/Elizabeth Swallow

Justinavickerman — 2012-06-28 16:55:49Z

thank you so much for your reply. I appreciate it very much

I seem to be quickly running out of avenues to learn about them. This may require far more creative thinking.

And I am open to suggestions on creative thinking....

Justina

Re: Margaret Price/Margaret Showalter/Elizabeth Swallow

KA_Coffey — 2012-06-28 15:27:53Z

The Union County newspapers were not kept on a yearly basis until 1934, until then our newspapers are very hit and miss. We have all the known issues at the library on microfilm, and neither of these names appear in the index. Brownsville did have its own newspaper, but there are even fewer issues.

Sorry.
K. A. Coffey

Re: Margaret Price/Margaret Showalter/Elizabeth Swallow

Justinavickerman — 2012-06-27 04:21:39Z

I would love that.

I am hoping on finding some clue about Ephraim Price... 3 of his daughters (Margaret (Price) Showalter, Elizabeth (Price) Swallow, and Sarah (Price) Brownfield moved to that area. Ephraim's widow Margaret Price moved to join her daughters at some point.

Sarah moved to join her sister Mary Ann (Price) Downard in Iowa.

Thank you so much for responding

Re: Margaret Price/Margaret Showalter/Elizabeth Swallow

joanlince — 2012-06-27 04:11:55Z

A Margaret Price Showalter is in a collateral line of mine. Ephraim Price Showalter (1823-1898) was said in Biographical and Genealogical History of Wayne, Fayette, Union, and Franklin Counties, 1899, p 724-725, to be son of Joseph Showalter and Margaret Price. This Ephraim Showalter was buried in Fairview Cemetery, Shelby County, IN. He married Mary Abernathy in 1848 in Union County. If you are interested, I can supply a printout of the details I have about Ephraim, with sources.

Margaret Price/Margaret Showalter/Elizabeth Swallow

Justinavickerman — 2012-06-27 02:13:27Z

I know that they are buried in Brownsville Christian Cemetery in Union Co. IN. I am wondering if anyone has an obit for any of them. I am trying to get more concrete information on Margaret Price (1768-1866) and her husband, Ephraim.

I am descended from Mary Ann (Price) Downard.

I have an obit from Sarah Elizabeth (Price) Brownfield, which says something about her father being a drummer in the Revolution.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you

Re: Fosher Cemetery? Daniel FOSHER

scrapbasket — 2012-05-20 18:59:09Z

this is very interesting because daniel fosher was the father of mary fosher, my ancestor john hale's first wife. did you ever get there and take pictures? I have more info on daniel because he raised the children of mary and john hale after her death. SALOME, DANIEL, DAVID, AND JUDY. greetings, sara crystal
sara crystal
scrapbasket@earthlink.net

Re: Daniel Fosher Family

scrapbasket — 2012-05-20 15:45:50Z

hello friends and cousins. re daniel fosher/foshier/fascher. he was a hessian conscript who deserted and fought on the american side. b5/12/1762, d 8/4/1849. he was part of my hale/fosher family group that left virginia and migrated to ohio and indiana after the war of 1812. there were several errors in the original posting. I have an autobiography of my ancestor john hale b 1825. daniel fosher was the father in law of john hale b 1793,not david hale. daniel foshier was the father of mary/polly fosher who married john hale b 1793. she died and the children were taken to live with their grandfather at richmond indiana. they were salome, daniel, david and judy. john hale 2nd wife was asenaath searl, daughter of elisha searl, mother of john hale b 1825, who was the writer. daniel fosher was a hero, doctor, founding member of the 4 mile church of the brethren, many records of this church exist. he also was a member of the underground railroad. he was a man to be proud of. so I am not directly descended dna wise but proud to be part of his family. sara crystal, scrapbasket@earthlink.net

Re: West Point Cemetery Records

KA_Coffey — 2012-04-24 21:40:29Z

The books are sitting. I have looked in them once. It will be a long time before I understand the system. We are just housing them. They still belong to the cemetery. We have a written version online at

http://www.union-county.lib.in.us/Union%20County%20History/C...

The books are old, smelly and do a job on my allergies. I hope the above link will help. I will have more time later this summer after we get done with inventory, the new website and summer reading program.

Karen

Re: West Point Cemetery Records

gburke05 — 2012-04-24 14:44:53Z

Karen, is there someone at the Union County Public Library who will do some look-ups when time permits? My email address is gerri_burke@yahoo.com. Thank you!

Re: West Point Cemetery Records

KA_Coffey — 2012-04-24 14:33:17Z

West Point cemetery was "abandoned" by its board earlier this year. They had complained that they did not have enough income to compete with the cost of maintaining the cemetery. A group of citizens have gotten together and formed a new board. The records are sitting behind me at the Union County Public Library HOWEVER I have not really looked at them. According to some they are VERY hard to figure out. We will just have to wait and see what happens at the cemetery.

K.A. Coffey

Re: West Point Cemetery Records

linhawk — 2012-04-24 02:21:32Z

The last time I was there..25 years ago, it was a little old lady. She wasn't very helpful. If you need more than names try to get in touch with the courthouse.

My Campbells are there and so are my Forkners but they are listed as Faulkner

http://www.union-county.lib.in.us/Union%20County%20History/C...

West Point Cemetery Records

gburke05 — 2012-04-23 18:43:02Z

Does anybody know who maintains the records for West Point Cemetery in Liberty Indiana? Thanks.

Salem Friends Meeting House

gburke05 — 2012-04-08 03:34:18Z

Does anyone have information about the origin and evolution of the Salem Friends Meeting House and Cemetery, located in Center Township? I believe it began as a Quaker Church, founded in 1818, and it is still in use, although not as Quaker. I'd like to know more! Thank you!