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Phebe and James Simmons Family

MissouriGal13  (View posts) Posted: 20 Apr 2009 9:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Simmons
Does anyone have any info on James and Phebe/Phoebe Simmons who lived in Williamson County, Illinois between 1850 and perhaps up until 1900? They were both born in Robertson County, TN and moved up into the Marion area around 1850.

Re: Phebe and James Simmons Family

JerryWilson38  (View posts) Posted: 20 Jul 2009 2:05PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello,
Would you contact me by email?
My address is

jwilso7731@aol.com

I would like to discuss Robt Co with you.

Re: Phebe and James Simmons Family

MissouriGal13  (View posts) Posted: 20 Jul 2009 2:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Grimes
I tried to email you but it would not go through to you. Try to email me Please at:

ngrimes@fidnet.com

Re: Phebe and James Simmons Family

MissouriGal13  (View posts) Posted: 20 Jul 2009 2:58PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Grimes
I tried to email you but it would not go through to you. Try to email me Please at:

ngrimes@fidnet.com

Re: Phebe and James Simmons Family

patriciastaley223  (View posts) Posted: 21 Jul 2009 12:02PM GMT
Classification: Query

Marion Monitor Newspaper, 30 Jan 1879:

Fountain Gleanings: Wm. Butlar, 22, died Jan 20 of consumption at the home of Aunt Phoebe Simmons.


I have about 50 Williamson Co. genealogy books. If you can give me some more details I will check them for you. Did James and Phoebe die in Williamson Co.? Do you know who some of their children were?

Patricia

Re: Phebe and James Simmons Family

patriciastaley223  (View posts) Posted: 21 Jul 2009 1:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
Crab Orchard Cem.

Angeline Stephens wife of John 17 Aug 1834-19 Oct 1910. (Angeline Washington Simmons, dau. of James and Phoebe (Grimes) Simmons married first Alexanders P. Ables 3 Dec 1851. Married second John Stephens 25 Oct 1863).

Stephens Cem.

Elmer W. Stephens 3 Aug 1905-30 Jul 1989. (Elmer Washington Stephens, father of Joyce Stephens Smith, son of Dennis Douglas and Mary Fischer Stephens and grandson of John and Angeline Washington Simmons Stephens. Elmer often commented that he was disappointed to find he was named after his grandmother and not Geo. Washington, because he never told a lie. Elmer was cremated and his ashes scattered here).

Nora E. Stephens daug of John and A. W. died 1 Sep 1883, 9 yrs. 2 mo. 27 d.

Crab Orchard Cem.

D.D. Stephens 1869-1945. (Dennis Douglas born 1 Sep 1869 died 21 Dec 1945, son of John and Angeline Simmons Stephens).


GUARDIAN RECORDS BOOK A:
Tues. Nov 17, 1863
James Simmons filed a petition to the Judge of said court, in probate, representing that: James W. Ables is monor aged eleven yrs. Sep. 1st 1863, Julia Ables is a minor aged eight yrs. Jan 8th 1863, Sandy P. Able is a monor aged six yrs. Dec 13th 1862, Doctor Allen Ables is monor aged foud Mar 26th 1863.
Minor heir of Sandy P. Ables Sr., deceased.

Guardian's Bond
James Simmons-Wm. F.M. Smith-Scott Simmons

James Simmons appointed guardian for the person and property of said minor heirs Nov 18th 1863.



Events in Egypt Newspaper Excerpts:

S.M. Simmons adm'r estate of McCoy Simmons. 3 Aug 1876.

Adm'r notice of final settlement-Scott Simmons adm'r estate of McCoy Simmons. Marion Monitor Newspaper 5 Sep 1878.

2 Apr 1878-a boy to Jasper and Delila Simmons.


Marriage Records:
Newton Mulkey Simmons, age 44, his third marriage to Mary J. Roberts, age 19, her second, on 12 Mar 1889. His parents were James and Phebe (Grimes) Simmons.

J.D. Simmons, age 26, to Sallie E. Miller, age 21, on 26 May 1895. His parents N.M. Simmons & Isabel Rader.

Lora Ester Stephens, age 19, to Frank Peerce Chamness, age 22, on 26 Feb 1890. Her parents John and Angeline Washington Simmons Stephens.

Albert Simmons, age 21, to Delia Chamness, age 19, on 26 Nov 1899. His parents N.M. and Mary King Simmons.

Winfield Simmons, age 25, to Nelia E. Chamness, age 21, on 11 Oct 1899. His parents Scott & A,M. Maxey Simmons.

Mary Simmons, age 24, to James M. Frey, age 35, his second on 1 Dec 1897. Her parents Scott & Ammie Maxey Simmons.

James Allen Simmons, age 21, to Dollie Caroline Mansker, age 19, on 22 May 1898. His parents Jasper & Delia Sanders Simmons.


If you want to send me your family group sheet I'd be happy to see what else I can find. Do you know where James and Phebe are buried?

I noticed that in at least one of the census yrs. your James and Phebe are living next to some of my Cashs and Stanley families. They came from Tn. also.

Patricia

Re: Phebe and James Simmons Family

MissouriGal13  (View posts) Posted: 21 Jul 2009 7:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Simmons, Grimes, Cash
James and Phoebe Simmons are at Fountain Methodist Church Cemetery there in Williamson County, Illinois. They are buried at the back/0ld section near some Cash family members. I think there are some family ties back there. I was always thinking that the Sally Cash married to Reason Cash may have been Phoebe/Phebe's sister. But I found a marriage record from Old Shawneetown that said that Reason Cash had married a Sally Masser...so unless the Cash marriage was her second one... It is not our Sally Grimes who married him.


Of course, to complicate things, Reason had a son of the same name ..and perhaps an uncle, too. Old Shawneetown was a big migration crossing place and many travelling between Kentucky, Tennessee, Indiana and Illinois passed through there. It was an interesting old town with a reputation like Natchez Under the Hill. All the census facts on Sally Cash fit our Sally Grimes... Just that pesky marriage certificate exists.

I have been told that Reason Cash was married to another woman in Kentucky named Rhoda Spinks. He had some children with her, too. I think that the Sally was a second wife to him. I think Reason was a son to Richard Cash and other family members migrated up out of Muhlenberg Co, TN, too. I have only looked at that family while exploring the unlikely but possible Sally Grimes connection.

Phoebe Grimes Simmons' brother, Adam Grimes and his fily lived very near Phoebe and James Simmons. My husband is out of Adam's line.

The name use odp

Re: Phebe and James Simmons Family

MissouriGal13  (View posts) Posted: 21 Jul 2009 7:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Grimes, Simmons
Sorry, on my cell phone and hit a bump before posting was done. The name use of McCoy is interesting in your Simmons line as my Jim's grandfather Cephas also had that name. We just discovered on our last research trip that his name was Cephas McCoy Grimes.

Jim has Simmons kin from Illinois, too. One of his cousins married a Simmons.

Re: Phebe and James Simmons Family

patriciastaley223  (View posts) Posted: 21 Jul 2009 8:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
I found them in my cemetery book. It says James and Phoebe married 4 Mar 1830 Davidson Co., Tn.

McCoy Simmons died 24 Nov 1875, 29 yrs. 5 days

M.N. Simmons 20 Jun 1844-8 Jun 1927, son of Jim & Phoeba (Grimes) Simmons.

Mary J. Simmons, wife of N.M. 22 Jan 1860-9 Jul 1904

Mary E. Simmons, wife of N.M. 22 Aug 1854-24 Mar 1882

Isabel Simmons, wife of N.M. 5 Sep 1844-7 Sep 1876
(Isabel Rader married Newton M. Simmons 24 Oct 1865. Mary E. King married Mulkey Simmons 11 Mar 1877).

Albert Simmons 24 Apr 1877-5 Dec 1944, son of Mulk Simmons




Re: Phebe and James Simmons Family

MissouriGal13  (View posts) Posted: 22 Jul 2009 1:18AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Simmons
Your information from the cemetery book On Simmons and others is wonderful and it is so nice of you to help others. What is the name of the book? Do you think that it would still be available?

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