Will - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Request for obit

vijoge — 2009-10-30 22:23:23Z

Cecilia D. Dybalski (nee Dombrowski), a resident of Frankfort, formerly of Blue Island, died Wednesday, September 15, at home.

Services were Saturday with a Mass at S. Anthony Catholic Church, Frankfort, with the Rev. Michael Glinter officiating. Interment was in Holy Sepulchre Cemetery.

The former Cecelia Dombrowski was born July 19, 1911, in Chicago. She was retired from Cuneo Press. She was a member
of the St. Anthony Council of Catholic Women, Elks Club, and Knights of Columbus Women's Auxillary of Blue Island.

She is survived by her husband of 64 years, Martin; a daughter, Virginia Stankiewicz of Frankfort; a son, Donald Destry of Alabama; a sister, Barbara Moll; a brother, Harry Dombrowski; five grandchildren and four great grandchildren.

Arrangements were handled by Colonial Chapel, Orland Park

Published in the Oak Lawn Star

Re: MCCARTHY/NUGENT/KEELY/DALY

shamrock52 — 2009-10-17 23:32:56Z

James Keeley married Margaret Nugent in Couty Louth and all their children were born in Ireland prior to coming here. Margaret Keeley is my GG Grandmother. I received help from a Brian Felix Keeley who states that they were originally from Termafeckin which is close to Drogheda in Co. Louth. I live in Illinois and have been to see the graves in Old Catholic Cemetary in Willington Will Co where James and Margaret are buried. Their daughter Margaret married a Jeremiah McCarthy in Will Co.

Re: MCCARTHY/NUGENT/KEELY/DALY

pt4 — 2009-10-17 16:49:12Z

I am a great grandnephew of Margaret E. "Maggie" Cunningham, who married William H. Nugent, son of Michael Nugent and Ann ?, on 11/18/1886 in Will County. They had five kids.

Joliet Jr. College 1938 Basketball Team

Not_A_Relative — 2009-10-16 00:43:29Z

Joliet Jr. College, Joliet, IL 1938 Basketball Team

http://www3.familyoldphotos.com/photo/illinois/16157/joliet-...

In the photograph: Phillip Meyers, Chester Cooper, Bill Knowles, Roger Rush, Coach A. A. Wills, Bob Layfield, Ted Krumpoch, Bob Dowse, Ray McGrath, Walt Huey

More Illinois Old Photos

http://www3.familyoldphotos.com/category/united-states/illin...

Re: MCCARTHY/NUGENT/KEELY/DALY

stitchwiz_1 — 2009-09-04 17:10:47Z

James and Margaret (NUGENT) KEELEY are our GGGgrandparents

7 Children that we know of

John (our line)
Patrick
James
Thomas
Michael
Margaret
Felix

Glad to share what information we have.

Re: Fannie Adelia Hammond Scroggins daughter of William H. and Lucinda Whitford Hammond

kzavada — 2009-08-30 16:29:16Z

John Fishbeck has this family in his charts
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op...
also his parents... this obit
for his father
Obituary
Josiah Scroggins died last eveing at his home 455 Clalim St. Aurora, IL of heart disease aged seventy-seven years. He was born in Indiana and was a carpenter by trade. the deceased leaves ten children, thirty-one grandchildren and four great grandchildren.
The children residing in Aurora, IL are Joseph, Charles, Hiram, Edward, Anna, Mrs.Viola Cloyes, Mrs Ida Murray and Mrs A Christian.
The funeral will be held at two o'clock Monday from the house and at 2:30 o'clock from the Claim STreet Baptist Church.
The Beacon News (Aurora ILLINOIS),
May 18 1907
Hope these help
Kathy

Re: Probate for grandson of Humphrey Scroggins

michellelucas60 — 2009-08-30 04:57:12Z

Thanks so much Kathy. I will call them on Monday and let you know what they say. I live in Mississippi and hope to get up there one day.
Michelle

Fannie Adelia Hammond Scroggins daughter of William H. and Lucinda Whitford Hammond

michellelucas60 — 2009-08-26 22:58:21Z

William Henry Scroggins Birth 21 Sep 1874 in Channahon, Will, Illinois
Death 22 Nov 1921 in Joliet, Will, Illinois, USA

married Fannie Adelia Hammond in 1894

Looking for information on their 14 children and their families.

michellelucas@bellsouth.net

Re: James Barton Family

RdBar — 2009-08-21 22:14:31Z

Would love to have any info on Bartons

Re: Probate for grandson of Humphrey Scroggins

kzavada — 2009-08-21 13:39:25Z

Hi Michelle,
In IL-Clerk of the Circuit Court controls and administers Probate/Estate and Guardianship records.In Grundy County, located in Court house,Morris,IL. They have huge leather bound indexes. Not sure how they charge for copies. I always went there myself and did searches and made copies.

Probate/Estate records in Will County begin about 1837. They are on microfilm now, housed at the Will County Court Archives Center, 806 North Nicholson St.,Joliet,IL 60435 Tel 815-774-7495. Need to talk to whomever is in charge of Circuit Court Clerk's records. They have typed indexes sorted by approx time frames. Might also check for wife circa 1860-1875 and son Shepard. Also check Kankakee County but it was formed about 1855+ from parts of Will and other counties. Might try Henry County about 1873 for Margaret.

The earliest newspaper in Will County would be on microfilm at Joliet Public Library main, reference department but there are no indexes to early ones(earliest being about 1840).Joliet library has a website.
Good Hunting
Kathy

Probate for grandson of Humphrey Scroggins

michellelucas60 — 2009-08-21 04:50:06Z

Looking for a probate for your Benjamin Scroggin(s) in Will Co IL, the time period would be 1840-1850. We are trying to find his birth date, date of death, siblings and parents. We think he may be a grandson to Humphrey 1.

michellelucas@bellsouth.net

Re: Request for obit

kzavada — 2009-08-17 14:39:14Z

Hi Tom,
Frankfort is considered a southern suburb of Chicago, making it possible that the obituary appeared in anyone of the following newspapers:
Chicago Tribune-I checked couldn't find one
Chicago Suntimes
Southtown Economist
Joliet Herald News-none found see below
there maybe more local papers

I suggest you contact:
Frankfort,Illinois Public Library
http://www.frankfortlibrary.org/
down at very bottom of their webpage on right side is "contact us" link.
Joliet Public Library has an online obituary index for 1993...
I checked it, no listing found for DYBALSKI
http://www.joliet.lib.il.us/resources/obituary/1993.htm#D
Might also try
Cook County query board and ask someone there to check.
Kathy

Request for obit

hic133 — 2009-08-16 19:58:34Z

Hello, does someome would be able to find an obit for this woman:

DYBALSKI, CECILIA D
Birth: 19 Jul 1911
Death: 15 Sep 1993
60423 (Frankfort, Will, IL)

I'll be grateful for any help.
Regards from Poland
Tom

Re: Will, Kendall County research

kzavada — 2009-08-07 16:45:07Z

Probably need to get copies of the entire probate/estate records of
1.-John V VANDERVORT(VANDERVOORT)died before 1860 census showing wife
2.-Lucinda(nee TUBBS)Plainfield,Will,IL with sons William and George
Easiest one would be to locate them in Kendall County Circuit Clerk's Office
http://www.co.kendall.il.us/circuitclerk/index.htm
I have been Yorkville courthouse many years ago...very helpful then.
Will County Circuit Cler...MUCH harder...early probate/estate records are on microfilm located at
Will County Court Archives Center
806 North Nicholson St
Joliet,IL 60435
815-774-7495
depending on time of year, avtive court case loads, may have to have an appointment. They do have general printed indexes to help locate probate/estate records. Takes a lot of time(2-4 hours once there)and then may have to wait to have copies mailed. They sometimes do not take checks. Sometimes depending on clerk charge 50 censts 1st page 25 cents to 10 or 20 pages etc.
Probate/estate records in IL pre date required death certs in IL by at least40 yrs beginning in 1830'sdepending on the county.
According to IL State archives marriage index
http://www.ilsos.gov/GenealogyMWeb/marrsrch.html
5 of John and Lucretia's children married in will county;
George W 1861
William H. 1862
Marion M 1859
Martha 1855
Mary Ann 1851
Caroline married in Kendall County Edwin Ervin 7 Jun 1855
name spelled Van Dervort in the state index
In Kendall Elmer Dickinso can do a lookup on John V in the biographies
In Will on genweb site there is a biography which mentions John through his daughter Marion who married Thomas BROWN.
Evidently per Kendall genweb site there was an obit or death notice placed for Marian VANDERVORT BROWN giving the following info
BROWN, Marian H (Vandervort)(Mrs. Thomas W Brown)daughter of John V & Lucinda, b. 15 Nov 1838 New Hampshire,died 8 Mar 1877 NaAuSay, buried Plainfield.
I checked what references I have and only found
VANDEROORT, Permelia age 84yr10mo 18 days died 24 Mar 1909 residence Plainfield township burial Plainfield. (Note she the wife of Richard M. b. abt. 1818 NY)

Just general info on what you might find in a probate/estate record(both kinds testate(there is a will)and intestate(no will)...exact date of death and location,names of living survivors,what the person owned-land and personal property, signatures,locations,dates of events,receipts,etc. In early probates/estates probably NOT names of parents of deceased but possibly could be mention of brothers and or sisters in sales of property personal and real estate. Just have to copy every scrap of paper you find. I found when working with Kendall County, I didn't need an appointment but phone calls didn't help much..had to go there(Yorkville)in person.
Suggested 1st local area sites to visit
Yorkville Court House,Library and Historical Soc.
Coal City Public Library for WGGS collections
Joliet court archives if you don't locate probates in Kendall
Hope this all helps
Kathy

Will, Kendall County research

CMPRATT — 2009-08-07 12:51:19Z

I am specifically looking in the Na-Au-Say area of Kendall County and the Plainfield area of Will county. My Vandervoort/Tubbs family immigrated about 1847 to that area. I just recently moved to western Illinois and I'm not familiar with the geographics of that area quite yet. Thanks for all your suggestions!

Re: local research

ambrose1889 — 2009-08-07 02:18:33Z

You might also try the Three Rivers Library - Minooka branch.
http://three-rivers-library.org/threerivers/history.asp

Michele Houchens has a lot of local information from Will, Grundy & neighboring Kendall counties and does research.

A Nelson

Re: local research

kzavada — 2009-08-06 22:58:56Z

The largest concentration of information would be in one of 3 places depending on which area of Will County you are looking in.
EASTERN will county Crete Monee area Would be Crete Library & South Suburban Genealogical and Historical Society(SSGHS)which has a website.
Thw Will Grundy Genealogy Society(WGGS)has a very good collection housed at the Coal City Public Library-covers esp. Joliet,Lockport,Plainfield,has a transcription of will county marriages to 1900 with matching microfilm of the records, transcription of will county death index,transcriptions of some very early newspapers & church,cemetery transcriptions,etc.
here's a link to Coal City Library
http://coalcity.lib.il.us/
If specific to Joliet,Joliet Public Library reference department,city directories,microfilm of newspapers 1850 to current,some of the WGGS publications,high school years books,etc.Joliet is also the county seat so can get copies of available, marriages,deaths,probate,etc from appropriate agency.
Have you searched the Will County genealogy website? There's quite a bit on it that may help
http://will.ilgenweb.net/
For Kendall county, have you checked their genweb site?
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ilkendal/
Emer Dickinson who is the site coordinator, has an email and could suggest where best to locate information.He has a great deal of printed resources available to him also.He will do lookups.
Can also check out Kendall County Historical Society
http://www.kchs.us/
Depending again on WHERE in Kendall, you may also find information in Grundy County(Coal City & Morris Libraries)
and Will County(see above).
Hope this Helps. If I know locations in Will and Kendall might be able to be more specific.
Kathy

local research

CMPRATT — 2009-08-06 22:26:35Z

Hello,

Is there anyone on this list who is familiar with the area and can tell me where I can do research locally - such as a library or genealocial society? I am also researching in Kendall County as well if anyone is familiar with that area as well. Thanks!

Cirricione of Joliet, Illinois

2009-07-07 10:57:20Z

hello. my name is Jill Cirricione. my father was John Cirricione, his father is John Cirricione, who's father was Sylvester Cirricione.All of Joliet, Illinois. I would like to hear from any other Cirricione's out there. please email me. thank you.

HELP PLEASE NEED INFORMATION ON THE NEWMANS

pnovak01 — 2009-07-17 20:45:18Z

Hello, I need information on John Newman born Oct.1859 or 1860 in Braidwood, Will County, Reed Township, Illinois, Edward Newman, born 1860 or 1861 in Braidwood, Will County, Reed Township, Illinois and a Charles Newman born 1872 or 1873 in Braidwood, Will County, Reed Township, Illinois. Any information would be most helpful. These are the only three sons of the Newman Family I cannot find and would LOVE to find what I can and they were the sons of Thomas H. Newman and Elizabeth Ellen Hayes who were both born in Ireland. PLEASE PLEASE HELP. Thank You Pat novak

Re: delrose and oleary

patrickjoleary — 2009-06-30 18:25:29Z

thank you. i did not know about the jerry delrose obit & the info you list, they look like promising leads. the letter in the 1940s was in response either to a request from john oleary's youngest brother - not listed in the 1870 census as he had not been born, or initiated on behalf of the ailing ellen oleary. will try the library website as well.

would you happen to have info on the naming of delrose st in joliet? or where to find info on it? hopefully the library website you list may provide some. looking on google i find it odd that the street is surrounded by streets named for famous, or infamous, battles including corregidor and bataan. my grandfather, son of john's o'learys youngest brother, survived corregidor and the bataan death march and then 3 years in japan as pow. could be some coincidence but i just find it odd for the delrose st to be among these other streets. so far searches on the delrose st name return a lot of real estate sale notices.

delrose and oleary

patrickjoleary — 2009-06-28 22:37:05Z

we are looking for the descendants of a john oleary who lived in joliet in the 1940s. not sure when they moved there but have a letter from a pastor in buffalo, ny to my great grandfather regarding 3 nieces living in joliet, il and one having married a gentleman by the name of del rose who was in the newspaper business. would anyone have any information or be able to point in the proper direction? there is a juel oleary delrose death notice on ancestry and some possible census matches from other cities at an earlier time but we have not found any more definitive information. our john oleary was born in 1869 in galion, oh. death unsure. according to his brother humphreys army enlistment paper john oleary lived in a bradford, pa in1899 - he does not appear in the 1900 census there. siblings that survived childhood were nellie (ellen), johanna, humphrey (youngest brother), and james (died while a young man). nellie and johanna both lived in buffalo ny from roughly 1900 till their deaths in 1943 and 1936. after serving in the spanish american war humphrey lived in manila, pi until his death in 1948.

Joliet Prison Records

CTOCobb — 2009-06-30 15:14:23Z

How can you request records of someone that was in the Joliet Prison in 1920? I have found someone that may be my grandfather, Arthur William Miller, listed in the Joliet Priosn Census record in 1920 and would like to get any information on him.

Re: Weidenbach obit lookup

gelowe1940 — 2009-06-28 16:16:15Z

I will try it,

Thank You

Gerry

pasdertz/gestel

kls1157 — 2009-07-25 17:37:17Z

looking to connect with the pasdertz/gestel families who live in and around Joliet. My gr. names were William and margaret Pasdertz. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
thank you
karen

Re: Joliet Prison Records

marybaccus1 — 2009-07-01 14:07:45Z

In regard to prison records, where would one search for records of personell at Joliet State Prison. My uncle, Clarence D. Atherton was employed there from about 1918 to 1958, when he died, according to family records.

Re: delrose and oleary

kzavada — 2009-06-30 18:04:16Z

I love a genealogy mystery:) Did a little more checking and have some suggestions.
1st back up a little
1870 cdensus OH>Crawford>Galion
taken 20 august(this is important)
LEAVY(aka LEARY)on 2 pages
lower 1st page
Patrick 49 cmm. labr. rr values $500-$0 b. Ire
(note worked for the railroad this is important)
Julia,45,b.Ire
Hanora,14,b.OH
James,9,b.OH
Ellen,7,b.OH
next page top
LEARY(could be LEAVY)
Johanna,4,b.OH
JOHN 11/12(born in census year JULY 1869 to AUG 1870)b. OH then notation JUNE
so he was born June 1870 which matches 1900 census entry
Buffalo 5th ward,tajen 7 Jun sheet 11 B
OLEARY,John, boarder,b. JUN 1870,single,b. OH parents b. Ire,occupation SWITCHMAN RAILROAD.

1920 census Joliet
317 Collins St
O'LEARY
Anna,43,head,?wd?b. NY parents b. NY rooming house
Loretta,wife,16,b.NY FATHER b.OHIO,mother b. NY
JUEL,14,b.NY father b. OH mother b. NY
Marguerite,11,b. Tennesse father b. OH mother b. NY
J???,son,7,b.IL father b. OH mother b. NY

so the Juel mentioned in 20 Oct 1960 obit of husband Jerry DELROSE could be the John OLEARY daughter who married a DELROSE in the newspaper business in Joliet.
SSA death index has Juel M. DELROSE b. 15 Sep 1905 died 10 Nov 1988 last residence Joliet.
from husband's obit 1960-had 4 sons Arrie,Dennis,Timothy and Thomas.
1990 Alumnae directory Joliet Catholic High School
DELROSE
Arrie A class of 1953(then b. abt. 1936)
Dennis class of 1955 (then b. abt. 1938)
both of Joliet in 1990
Try internet 411 to locate them.

Have you looked for probate/estate and guardianship records
Crawford Co.,OH for Patrick and 2nd wife Julia both died 1875 per some of your other queries.

Try for obits Joliet Library-they have a website.

WHY did the Buffalo NY priest send letters to OLEARYs in 1940's? Must have been a good reason, possibly death of maiden aunts Nellie and Johanna? If so may be probate there also. To Prove relationship,any heir would have to go back at least 2 generations.
Hope this helps
Kathy

Re: Joliet Prison Records

kzavada — 2009-07-01 18:16:18Z

just a guess
check with the Il state department of corrections and ask them since personel would be under that agency.
Kathy

Re: Catholic churches in 1840

kzavada — 2009-07-01 16:01:10Z

I have a copy of book on earliest catholic church in will county-St. Patrick's in Joliet.
Has transcriptions of marriages 1838-1851
bapt. Nov 1838-aug 1844
here's the entries that may pertain
married
28 Nov 1840
Michael Obryn
Brigit Enwright
witnesses
John Enwright
William Enwright

married
15 May 1850
Michael O'Bryan
Margaret Organ
witnesses
John Flemming
Mary Ann King

could not locate any baptisms

St. Patrick's(aka Mt. Juliet established 1838) church founded Emmettsburgh(1838) which became St. Dennis(1846)in Lockport.
You would have to contact St. Patrick's Joliet and/or St. Dennis in Lockport for any baptisms. My guess would be St. Patrick's as the only Michael O'Bryan and family in 1850 census is in Channahon township which is closer to Joliet than Lockport. That is IF this was your Michael.
Hope this helps
Kathy

Re: Weidenbach obit lookup

kzavada — 2009-06-27 18:14:22Z

The Wilmington Public Library
http://www.wilmingtonlibrary.org/
has an index card file with obits.
Ask them from main page right side to look it up for you.
Hope this helps
kathy

Re: Florence Turnbough

kzavada — 2009-06-27 18:10:33Z

Here's her husband's from 2005
Herald News, The (Joliet, IL) - June 18, 2005
Deceased Name: Darrell Leon Turnbough
"Lee"
Age 84, of Joliet, formerly of New Lenox, passed away Wednesday, June 15, 2005 at Joliet Area Community Hospice Home in Joliet, IL, after a courageous 23 year battle with Leukemia.
He is survived by his loving family; two daughters, Wilda (Norman) Legner, Linda (Scott) Hamende; three sons, Kenneth (Mary) Turnbough, Roger (Diane) Turnbough, Robert Turnbough; 16 grandchildren; and 14 great-grandchildren.
Darrell was preceded in death by his parents, Joseph E. and Eva (nee Daly) Turnbough; wife, Florence Rae Turnbough; two sons, Darrell Ray Turnbough and Richard Lee Turnbough; five brothers, William Glenn Turnbough, James Russell Turnbough, Virgil jackson Turnbough, Harold Leo Turnbough and Charles Edward Turnbough.
Darrell retired in 1982 from Caterpillar, after 31 years of service. He was a member of United Methodist Church in New Lenox, and enjoyed fishing, reading, gardening and spending time with his family.
Family will receive friends at Kurtz Memorial Chapel, 102 E. Francis Road, New Lenox, Sunday, June 19th, from 2 to 4 PM & from 6 to 8 PM, and again on Monday, June 20th, from 11 AM until time of funeral service, 12 Noon at United Methodist Church, 339 W. Haven, New Lenox. Interment Elmhurst Cemetery, Joliet, IL.
KURTZ MEMORIAL CHAPEL
Cedar at Francis Rds., (815) 485-3200

Try:
Elmhurst cemetery
1212 E Washington St
Joliet,IL 60433
815-722-0877
and
Joliet Public Library Reference, hjere's a link
http://www.joliet.lib.il.us/resources/a-gene.asp
hope these help
kathy

Re: delrose and oleary

kzavada — 2009-06-29 16:41:28Z

here is the closest I can come to newspaper-DELROSE-and maybe OLEARY;
Chicago Tribune (IL) - July 09, 1957
Deceased Name: John J. Delrose
Mass for John J. Delrose, 43, of 421 Oneida st., Joliet, who died Saturday in Hines Veterans hospital, will be said at 9 a.m. tomorrow in St. Anthony's Catholic church, Joliet. Mr. Delrose was home delivery manager of the Chicago Newspaper agency, Joliet. He leaves his widow, Helen; two sons, Kenneth and David, and a daughter, Frances.
Edition: Chicago Tribune
Copyright 1957, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune.

ago Tribune (IL) - September 02, 1957
Deceased Name: William J. Delrose
Services for William J. Delrose, 50. of 208 E. Webster st., Joliet, who was killed Friday in an automobile collision, will be held at 10 a.m. tomorrow in the chapel at 309 Sherman st., Joliet. He leaves his widow, Marie; a son, Peter; a sister, Mrs. Peggy Miglorini, and four brothers, Thomas, Jerry, Mambre, and Carl.
Edition: Chicago Tribune

Chicago Tribune (IL) - November 13, 1958
Deceased Name: T. O. DELROSE, NEWS DEALER IN JOLIET, DIES
Thomas O. Delrose, 54, of 212 E. Webster st., Joliet, died Wednesday. He was general manager of the Chicago Newspaper agency, 135 E. Van Buren st., Joliet. Surviving are his widow, Catherine; two sons, William and Joseph; two daughters, Mrs. Joseph Sefcik and Mrs. Frank Threadgill; three brothers, and a sister. Mass will be said at 9:30 a.m. Friday in St. Anthony's church, 100 N. Scott st., Joliet.
Edition: Chicago Tribune
Copyright 1958, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune.

Chicago Tribune (IL) - October 20, 1960
Deceased Name: JERRY DELROSE DIES IN JOLIET AT AGE OF 54
Jerry Delrose, 54, of 212 N. Eastern av., Joliet, a partner in the Chicago Newspaper agency, 135 E. Van Buren st., Joliet, died last night in St. Joseph's hospital, Joliet.
Mr. Delrose started delivering THE CHICAGO TRIB-UNE as a boy. He bought a partnership in the newspaper agency in 1926 and later purchased his partner's share.
He leaves his widow, Juel; four sons, Arrie, Dennis, Timothy, and Thomas, all of whom now are partners in the newspaper agency; two grandchildren; two brothers; and a sister. Mass will be said at 11:30 a.m. Saturday in St. Mary's church, Joliet.
Edition: Chicago Tribune
Copyright 1960, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune.

there are burials OLEARY DELROSE in st. patrick's cemetery joliet which might help also. Transcription is on Will County genweb site
http://will.ilgenweb.net/

Joliet Public Library reference dept. has newspapers on microfilm but not a complete obit index, need to have date from somewhere else. They have a website.

Here's a link to IL State archives death index 1916-1949
http://www.ilsos.gov/GenealogyMWeb/idphdeathsrch.html

1900 census Buffalo,Erie,index
O LEARY, John b. Jun 1870 single,b. OH under Michael Mc INTYRE

Hope these help
Kathy

Re: Joliet Prison Records

kzavada — 2009-06-30 18:26:39Z

Here is a link that gives information on Joliet Prisons and how to obtain them.
http://genealogytrails.com/ill/convicts/convictregister.htm
Hope it helps
Kathy

Re: William Grover Smith

kzavada — 2009-07-23 16:46:14Z

Here's a link to Joliet Public Library...since you have exact date of death, they maybe able to check for an obit.
http://www.joliet.lib.il.us/resources/a-gene.asp
They also have Joliet street directories which could help.
Might also try Bloomington Library as his parents married in McLean Co
Louis SCHMIDT to Anna PISELL date 16 Apr 1896 McLean Co cert. No 00011914
info from IL state marriage index.
contact Molly Kennedy researcher in Springfield who can get inexpensive copies of deaths 1916-1950 and marriages to 1900 from Il archives indexes. Mollx.com
Interesting on marriage index Anna PISELL 24 Jul 1889 to Prentice B. THRASHER,McLean county but no certificate number.
hope these help
kathy

Re: Benjamin Scroggins and Margaret Starnes

kzavada — 2009-07-30 22:14:46Z

1830 census Vigo Co.,IN
page 63
1840 census Will County, Jackson precinct
Males
under 5(2)/5-10(2)/10-15(2)/40-50 oneBenjamin
Females
40-50 one(Margaret)
Note two daughters married before the 1840 census,that's why they aren't listed.
Supposedly Margaret died 13 aug 1873 Colona,Henry Co.,IL
I have no proof of that.
Oldest daughter b. Wayne Co.,IN
Next daughter and at least 2 sons born Vigo Co.,IN-also no positive proof of these.
Above info from charts done by other researchers
do a search on google
benjamin scroggins genealogy takes awhile but you'll find these charts.
Shepard Scroggins died Essex Kankakee Co.,IL 10 Jul 1915. His brother Hiram died same location 27 Mar 1918. Might get obits for them and see if they help with their parents.
Kathy

Re: Benjamin Scroggins and Margaret Starnes

kzavada — 2009-07-29 15:52:56Z

Not related, just trying to help.
His wife Margaret STARNES(STEARNES)b. TN found with sons Josiah,Hiram,WEilliam,George and Sheppard in 1850 census under misspelling SWIGGINS Aux Sable Township, Grundy County,IL
She's in 1860 census Will County,Channahon township with sons George and William. a few doors away is Sheppard.
In 1900 census son William Henry living in Wilmington had father b. North Carolina mother b. TN.
Could not locate any notice of buying property in Grundy,Kankakee or Will County for Benjamin,only Sheppard in Will County in 1862.
Only remote possibility probate/estate record for Benjamin (1840-1850) wife Margaret(1858-1870) in either of the above counties..very slim chance. records would be in Clerk of Circuit Court, Conty Court house...
Hope these help. Have more on sons and grandchildren.
Kathy

Re: pasdertz/gestel

kzavada — 2009-07-25 21:05:53Z

This obit may help, since it mentions grandparents william pasdertz wife margaret gestel
Herald News, The (Joliet, IL) - April 27, 2004
Deceased Name: Kathleen A. Pasdertz
Kathleen A. Pasdertz, age 53. At rest, Sunday, April 25, 2004. Born in Joliet and a life long resident.
Survived by her mother, Audrey Reeves; brothers and sisters, William (Deborah), Sandra (Keith) Essex, Joseph (Danette), Ronald (Chelly), Kenneth and Jeff Reeves, Dawn Baham. Also survived by numerous aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, and cousins.
She was preceded in death by her father, William J. Pasdertz; grandparents, William R. and Margaret (nee Gestel) Pasdertz, Gerald and Olga (nee Headke) Placher. In lieu of flowers, donations to be used according to the families wishes would be appreciated.
TEZAK FUNERAL HOME
1211 Plainfield Rd. near Ingalls Ave.
Joliet, IL 815-722-0524 www.tezak.info
From where a Chapel service will be held Thursday, April 29, 2004 at 11 a.m. Fr. John McGeean, officiating. Visitation will be Wednesday from 4 to 8 p.m. and Thursday Morning from 10 a.m., until time of services at 11 a.m.

Might try Joliet Public Library geenealogy resources,etc
http://www.joliet.lib.il.us/resources/a-gene.asp
the social security death index has
PASDERTZ
William b. 21 Jun 1906 died Nov 1963(?wife Margaret Gestel)
William J. b. 17 dec 1927 died 2 may 1990(son of William and father of Kathleen listed above?)
might ask library to check for obits.

could also try one of the internet finding aids to locate living Pasdertz in and around Joliet.
Is this the correct family?
1900 census Joliet 2nd ward
PISTIERTZ(PASDERTZ)John b. May 1873,27,married 3yrs,b. Austria USA 1889-laborer
Mary,wife,b. Feb 1875,25,married 3yrs,had 2 children-2 alive,b. Austria USA 1893
Mary,daughter,b. Jul 1898,1,b.IL
John,son,b. Jan 1900,age 4/12(months),iL
1910 census Joliet 2nd ward
35 Chicago Street
PASDERTZ
John,36,married 1 time,12yrs,b. Aust. Slov USA 189?,laborer stone quarry
Mary,34,married 1 time,12yrs,had 5 children-4 alive,b. Aust. Slov. USA 1893
Mary,11,IL
John,10,b.IL
Joseph,8,IL
**WILLIAM,3,IL

Will County Death Index 1878-1915
GESTEL
Peter age 46yrs died 10 Apr 1906 resdience Joliet burial St. John's
no listing for Pasdertz.
hope these help
kathy

Re: Jessie Robinson

kzavada — 2009-07-27 15:44:22Z

Her obit from Chicago
Chicago Tribune (IL) - April 30, 1956

Deceased Name: KILROY
--Jessie L. Kilroy, April 27, at St. Joseph's hospital, Joliet, late of 315 Sherman street. Survived by son, Thomas KILROY of Alexandria, Va., sister of Edward Robinson of Mountain Home, Ark., Harry T. of Joliet; three grandchildren; one great-grandchildren; numerous nieces and nephews. Funeral Tuesday, May 1, at 11 a.m. at the Haley funeral home, 17 S. Center street, Joliet. Burial St. Mary's cemetery, Evergreen Park, Ill.
Edition: Chicago Tribune
Copyright 1956, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune.

her husband's obit from Chicago
Chicago Tribune (IL) - April 27, 1955

Deceased Name: KILROY
Frank C. Kilroy, April 25, at St. Joseph's hospital, late of 1 S. Hickory street, Joliet, Ill., husband of Jessie L., nee Robinson; father of Thomas F. of Alexandria, Va.; brother of Mrs. Mary Allen of Joliet; three grandchildren; one great-granddaughter; numerous nieces and nephews. Funeral April 28 at 9:30 a.m. from funeral home, 17 S. Center street, to St. Patrick's church, Joliet. Burial in St. Mary's cemetery, Evergreen Park, Chicago. Member of the Holy Name society, St. Adrian's church, Chicago.
Edition: Chicago Tribune
Copyright 1955, Chicago Tribune. For permission to reprint, contact Chicago Tribune.

1920 census Joliet township
501 Wheeler ave, owns house mortgaged
ROBINSON
HARRY T.,29,b.Il parents b. England,conductor street railroad,WWI civilian draft registered
Ethel A.,26,b.IL parents b. IL
Ione,6,Il
Earl 2 4/12,IL

1910 census Joliet 5th ward 110 Ivy,rents house
ROBINSON
John E.,50,married 1 time,30 yrs,USA 1868,b.England vesselman steel mill
Jennie,47,married 1 time,30yrs,had 5 children-4 alive now,b.England
***J.EDWARD,23,single,b.IL parents b.England(mentioned in obit Edward)pressman joliet printing co
***HARRY,20,single,b.IL,parents b. england-driver express company(Harry T in census and obit)
ON SAME PAGE
203 Cagwin Ave. rents
ROBINSON
George W.,28,married 1 time,1 yrs,b.IL father b. Eng.,mother b. IL
laborer steel mill
Mary,28,married 1 time,1 year,no children,b. Il father b. Ire,mother b. IL

1920 census 4th ward
314 Richmond st,owns free
ROBINSON
John E.,60,b. England foreman Il steel co
Jennie,57,b.IL parents b. England

1900 census Joliet,4th ward
210 center st rents house
ROBERTSEN
J. E.,b. Nov 1859,40yrs,married 20 yrs,b. PA(wrong)steel worker
Jennie,wife,b. Oct 1862,37,married 20 yrs,had 4 children-4 alive,b.PA(wrong)
George,son,b. Nov 1881,18,single,b.IL,parents b. PA(wrong),bookkeeper
***JESSE,DAUGHTER,b. Feb 1884,16,single,in school,b.IL
***Edward,son,b. Nov 1886,13,single,b.IL in school
***HARRY,son,b. Mar 1890,10,single,b.IL in school

IL State Archives death index 1916-1950
http://www.ilsos.gov/GenealogyMWeb/idphdeathsrch.html
ROBINSON
Jennie age 86yrs died Will County, Joliet 6 Jan 1949
John E. age 76yrs died 20 Feb 1935 same location

in 1900 and 1910 census both John E and wife say married about 1880, son george b. Nov 1881
IL State archives marriage index to 1900
http://www.ilsos.gov/GenealogyMWeb/marrsrch.html
ROBINSON, John to Mary Jennie PENDELTON 18 Feb 1880 LaSalle County,IL-please note variant spelling.

1880 census Streator,Bruce township,La Salle Co.,IL
PENDLETON
George 43,blacksmith,England(d. 1890 LaSalle Co)
Elisabeth B.,39,scotland(in 1900 census USA 1860)
JENNIE,17,IL all the kids b. IL(married LaSalle Co PENDELTON note spelling-she either met him in Joliet or Ottawa as her parents where in both locations)
(note son George A. age 19 at different location in Streator)
Annie
Liddie(aka?Lilly or Lillian married LaSalle co)
William
JESSIE,(married LaSalle Co)
Ada(married LaSalle Co)
Edith

1870 census Joliet 4th ward
PENDLETON
George,38,blacksmith values 2000-500 b. England
Elizabeth,28,b.Scotland
George A.,7,b.IL(obit LaSalle co Genealogy Guild 15 May 1908)
**JANE(aka Jennie)7,b.IL
Annie,5,IL
Lilly,2,IL
William 4/12 b. Feb(1869),IL
SANS, Susan,servant 20,b.IL

1860 census Ottawa,LaSalle,IL
taken 18 Jul
PENDLETON
George,28,Blacksmith,b. England MARRIED WITHIN THE YEAR
Elizabeth,19,b. Scotland MARRIED WITHIN THE YEAR

IL archives Index does show LaSalle County marriages for an Ada,Lillian and Jessie Pendleton
LaSalle County Genealogy Guild has excellant records online might check with them. They have a death cert. for George Pendleton 1890 at the very least.
http://www.lscgg.org/lscgg_search.html
Il archives death index shows elizabeth pendleton died LaSalle Co.,Streator in 1923.

Might try
checking 1870, 1880 census for John E(J E)Robinson(ROBERTSON)as he has USA 1868 in 1910 census.
Joliet Public Library reference department for obits. They have a website
For copies of death certs & marriage licenses from Il archives index
Molly Kennedy mollx.com charge beats archives by a mile.
Hope this all helps
Kathy

Re: Forney and Rose Storey, Will Co. Ill.

kzavada — 2009-07-20 15:51:49Z

In 1920 census Momence names are
Forney M. STOREY
ROSIE J. STOREY
Chester L.H.
Luella H.
Dorothy S.

IL State Archives death index 1916-1950
has
STOREY, Rosie died 13 Mar 1945 Cook(County)Chicago
here's a link to check
http://www.ilsos.gov/GenealogyMWeb/idphdeathsrch.html
I checked Newsbank for obits but didn't find any, might try a query for obit on Cook County board.
Might also google Molly Kennedy springfield,illinois researcher for hire can get inexpensive copies of death certs.
Kathy

Re: Cirricione of Joliet, Illinois

cfam3b1g — 2009-07-07 10:57:51Z

My name is Doug Cirricione, son of Joe Cirricione who was the son of Joseph Cirricione, brother to Sylvester Cirricione

Grew up in the Illinois Quad City area but now am in the Kansas City area.

Benjamin Scroggins and Margaret Starnes

michellelucas60 — 2009-07-28 19:04:50Z

Looking for any information...

My email is michellelucas@bellsouth.net

Re: Benjamin Scroggins and Margaret Starnes

michellelucas60 — 2009-07-30 03:15:14Z

Can you find them in the 1830 and 1840 census? I know they were married in TN and moved to Indiana and the settled in Illinois.
I cant find any obits on either of them.

I would appreciate any information you may have.

Re: 1867 marriage records/Methodist Church?

wfmeld — 2009-07-19 20:06:21Z

From IL Archives marriage database online:

John Christian Wenck m. Mary Hellers, 4/07/1867 in Will Co., IL.

Fred

Re: 1867 marriage records/Methodist Church?

mrstkdsd — 2009-07-19 20:41:45Z

Fred,

Thank you. I had run across that one and am sending for the record this week. I think it may be possible the index somehow got her maiden name incorrect because that is the only marriage for a Wenck I found and everything matches except her last name.

Thanks again!

Cynthia

1867 marriage records/Methodist Church?

mrstkdsd — 2009-07-10 22:32:01Z

I am trying to find a marriage record for my ancestors, but am not sure where to look.

Christian WENCK and Mary RABE/RAABE came to the U.S. in 1866 from Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Germany and were married in Will County, Illinois in 1867. Per her obit, they were married in Joliet, although they appear to be in Homer, Will County on the 1870 census.

The obituary for Mary (Rabe) Wenck states she belonged to the Methodist church for almost 43 years, which would be from 1875/76, 1876 being the year they moved to Iowa, so I am not sure which church to check for marriage records.

Any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Cynthia

Jessie Robinson

C_Engleson — 2009-07-26 00:02:08Z

Searching for parents of Jessie Robinson of Will County. (1885-1956). She married Frank Kilroy and moved to Chicago. Her niece Jean Striker signed death certificate. Info on any siblings and or parents would be appreciated to break my brick wall. Thanks so much.

William Grover Smith

Jeannie_Hohimer — 2009-07-22 01:18:13Z

I would like any information about William Grover Smith, he died 2/16/1945 in Joliet, Illinois. His residence was 207 N. Ottawa Street and his wife was Louise, she was 43 at the time of his death. William was a switchman for the EJ&E Railroad (Elgin, Joliet & Eastern). I would like to know if he left any living children or if Louise remarried and had any children. I would really like a picture of William. His mother was Anna Pisell and his father was Louis.Thanks Jean Hohimer in Texas

Catholic churches in 1840

jnobrienmd5898 — 2009-06-30 22:01:44Z

What Roman Catholic churches were in Will County in 1840? I am specifically interested in 25 Nov 1840 for the marriage of Michael O'Brien (O'Brian) and Bridgett Enright supposedly in Lockport.

Re: Forney and Rose Storey, Will Co. Ill.

san625g — 2009-07-21 11:07:14Z

Thanks for the name of a researcher in Springfield. I too saw that Rose Storey in the death index but the birth date would be very wrong. I have the info from the 1920 and 1930 censuses. And a couple of items from a newspaper that indicate that she was living in 1941.

Forney and Rose Storey, Will Co. Ill.

san625g — 2009-07-20 12:47:55Z

I am looking for death dates and burial location for Forney M. Storey and is wife Rose (nee Schuette). He was born in 1879 Illinois and she in 1876 in Elk Grove Twp, Cook Co. Ill. They married in 1911 in Elk Grove and had three children: Chester, Louella (Mrs Lamb), and Dorothy (Mrs John Reed). All three children died in Michigan.

In 1900 he lived in New Lenox Twp, Will Co. In 1920 they lived in Momence Twp in Kankakee Co. In 1930 they lived in Frankfort Twp in Will Co. Rose living in 1941.

Gail