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Joseph WARNER (d 05 Sep 1842 - Marshall, IL)

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Joseph WARNER (d 05 Sep 1842 - Marshall, IL)

Posted: 1463675295000
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Surnames: Warner, Evans, Jones, Gaylord, Beatty, Bowman, Clifford, McAdam, Washington, Helpenstine, Watson, Humble
Joseph WARNER (d 05 Sep 1842 - Marshall, IL) is probably already well known to WARNER descendants and is reasonably well documented in published histories of Marshall County, IL, and Madison County, OH. However, much of the information I have found about Joseph WARNER is syndicated across several secondary sources with little effort made to either unify the story or to identify supporting primary records in support of the secondary narratives. I have also seen some unpublished secondary accounts which seem to misacribe records to this Joseph WARNER or to confuse generations.

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The most fulsome account of Joseph WARNER's (d 05 Sep 1842 - Marshall, IL) presence in Evans Township, Marshall County, seems to appear within the book Records of the Olden Time; or, Fifty years on the Prairies: Embracing sketches of the discovery, exploration and settlement of the country, the organization of the counties of Putnam and Marshall, incidents and reminiscences connected therewith, biographies of citizens , by Spencer Ellsworth (Lacon, IL: Home Journal Steam Printing Establishment, 1880), pages 460-1:

"In Cherry Point Cemetery, on the farm of Albert Evans, in an unmarked grave, lies the honored remains of Joseph Warner, a soldier of the war [page 461] of the Revolution, and in Cumberland cemetery repose those of Lemuel Gaylord, whose brief history as repeated by himself has been told elsewhere. Mr. Warner was born on the shore of Chesapeake Bay, of Irish parentage, in 1738. He was left an orphan and underwent many hardships, until he attained his majority. When the Colonies revolted he became a soldier and fought at the battle of Germantown, the particulars of which he was fond of relating, it being his greatest pleasure in later years to gather the children about him--

'Tell o'er his deeds and tales of valor done,
Shoulder his crutch and show how fields were won.'

After the war he settled near Mount Vernon, Va., where his old commander resided, and lived there until his removal to Madison County, Ohio. He cleared a farm here, and lived until 1838. He was now one hundred years old, and many of his immediate relatives had paid the debt of nature. His property had been given to his children except 'Libbie,' a faithful old horse twenty seven years old, his companion for many years. A grandson,--Justus Jones, had settled in Illinois, and with the perverse restlessness of old age he determined to search out and visit him. His family strongly opposed this, but one day when they were absent he mounted his nag and stole away unobserved, turning westward. He had no money, but his simple story made friends everywhere, and the kindest care until he reached Chicago. He knew nothing of his friends whereabouts, but struck south-westardly, and fortunately rode right into the neighborhood while prosecuting his inquiries. He found here kind friends, and remained with them until his death, September 5, 1842, aged 104 years."

See: https://archive.org/stream/recordsofoldenti00ells#page/460/m...

[Also Available at Ancestry.com, Images 450-1 of 752.]

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The other three mentions of Joseph WARNER within Records of the Olden Time appear at pages 449 and 453:

"One of the voters at that election [1840] was Joseph Warner, who was then one hundred years old, and another was Lemuel Gaylord, also a very aged man, both soldiers of the revolution." [at page 449]

See: https://archive.org/stream/recordsofoldenti00ells#page/449/m...

"In 1839 first appear upon the records [of the Methodist Episcopal Church of Evans] the names George Beatty, Effie Bowman, Louisa Jones, Parmelia Bowman, William Bowman, John C. Bowman and Joseph Warner." [at page 453]

"The first death in the Society [Methodist congregation] was that of Joseph Warner, who died September 5, 1842, at the advanced age of 104 years." [at page 453]

See: https://archive.org/stream/recordsofoldenti00ells#page/453/m...

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There are also several mentions of Joseph WARNER within the book Old Sandy remembers: Evans Township, Marshall County, by Seldon L. Myers? (1968?), however some of these appear to have been lifted verbatim from the earlier history Records of the Olden Time by by Spencer Ellsworth (1880):

"At this election [1840] two Revolutionary War Veterans voted, one Lemuel Gaylord now buried at Cumberland [Cemetery] and Joseph Warner buried at Cherry Point [Cemetery]." [at page 5]

See: https://archive.org/stream/oldsandyremember00mars#page/5/mod...

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"In 1839 first appear upon the records the names George Beatty, Effie Bowman, Louisa Jones, Parmelia Bowman, William Bowman, John C. Bowman and Joseph Warner." [at page 63]

"The first death in the Society was that of Joseph Warner, who died September 5, 1842, at the advanced age of 104 years." [at page 63]

See: https://archive.org/stream/oldsandyremember00mars#page/63/mo...

(This same information seems to have been erroneously included a second time at page 65.)

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"JOSEPH WARNER--Enlisted and served in the Revolutionary War of 1775 and 1776. He was born on the shore of Chesapeake Bay, of Irish parentage in 1738. When the colonies revolted he became a soldier and fought at the battle of Germantown. After the was he settled near Mount Vernon, Va., where his old commander resided. From Mount Vernon, he moved to Madison County, Ohio, where he resided until 1838. From there he came to Illinois in the summer of 1838. He then, being 100 years of age, rode on horseback and alone from his home in Ohio to the Edward CLifford farm, where he died on September 5, 1842, age 104 years. In a letter from Albert Evans of Nevada, Mo., to G. G. McAdam, he says, 'I presume I am the only man living that remembers seeing the Old Man before he reached his destination at Joneses. He was a man of small statute, was riding a small roan mare, had an old saddle with a sheepskin over it. His pants were blue jeans. His coat and vest of brown cloth. A white, round crowned, wool hat upon his head and shoes on his feet completed his ward-robe. It can be said of Joseph Warner that which can be said of few men. He fought for liberty. He voted for George Washington. He also voted for Abraham Lincoln. He voted for Lincoln for Presidential Elector in 1840. Please accept this from your old friend. Albert Evans." [at page 124]

See: https://archive.org/stream/oldsandyremember00mars#page/124/m...

It bears mention that this text is annotated:

"Copied From Cherry Point Cemetery Records

SOLDIERS BURIED IN CHERRY POINT CEMETERY

January 1, 1894--The following is a list of soldiers buried in Cherry Point Cemetery to date:"

Note: Cherry Point Cemetery, where Joseph Warner is interred, is located on the former Albert EVANS farm in Section 10.

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Each of the accounts above come from secondary sources. However, an inspection of the primary records gives us some rather strong corroboration of these accounts, as further shown below.

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NOTE: There seems to be no mention of Joseph WARNER within the book Past and present of Marshall and Putnam Counties, Illinois, by John Spencer Burt and W. E. Hawthorne (Chicago: The Pioneer Publishing Company, 1907).

See: https://archive.org/stream/pastpresentofmar00burt#page/n6/mo...

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1840 CENSUS

Justus JONES' 1840 Census record seems to reflect a male age 100 or more:

Justus JONES: 0 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 -- 1 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 [LaSalle, IL 1840]

See:

Various secondary accounts alternatively decribe Justus JONES as either Joseph WARNER's grandfather or the husband of Joseph WARNER's daughter Sally. I will discuss this issue further in a separate post. In either case, it seems likely that Joseph WARNER is the male age 100 or more shown to be residing in Justus JONES' household in 1840.

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As noted in Records of the Olden Time, Joseph WARNER joined the Methodist Church in Evans Township in 1839. Records of the Olden Time, page 453.

It is also reported that Joseph WARNER is expressly shown as a voter on extant poll records of the 1840 Election. Records of the Olden Time, page 449.

These secondary accounts seem to rely upon specific extant records placing Joseph WARNER in Evans Township in 1839 and 1840.

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This Joseph WARNER is NOT shown in the Pension Roll of 1835 because his Pension application was REJECTED, as further shown below.

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Pension Application of Joseph WARNER [R11146] (Images 636-69 of 977)

Joseph WARNER seems to have applied for a Pension sometime in the Spring of 1837. One notation in the file seems to indicate that he made his original application orally IN PERSON. The Application is shown to have been Rejected (25 May 1837) based upon no adequate proof of service [Image 665]. Two affidavits in support of the application -- from Peter HELPENSTINE and William A. WARNER (son) -- are dated 19 Apr 1837. A third affidavit by Henry WATSON, of Washington, PA, is dated 6 May 1837 [Image 668].

John A. WARNER, administrator of the Estate of Joseph WARNER, Deceased, made a renewed posthumous application for any Pension benefits due Joseph WARNER. A copy of the Letters of Adminsitration, dated 26 Aug 1853, from Madison County, OH, appears within the Pension file [Image 638-9].

Notwithstanding the Rejection, the Pension file is also somewhat of a gold mine of unsupported genealogical information for Joseph WARNER's family, as related within some of the contentions made within correspondence with the Pension Office. The identities of correspondents is also somewhat telling.

For example, the letter of Edith Olita (Warner) HUMBLE to the Pension Office dated 28 Feb 1908 [Images 653-6], writing from Marshfield, WI, identifies the correspondent's grandfather as Henry WARNER (b 1777 - Fairfax, VA). Mrs. HUMBLE also asserts that Joseph WARNER was a member of the Methodist Episcopal Church at Alexandria, VA [Image 655-6].

Another letter from 1937 by S. L. WARNER, of Springfield, OH, makes some additional assertions [Image 657].

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1784 FAIRFAX, VA, TAX LIST

The 1784 Fairfax County Personal Property Tax List shows a Joseph WARNER [Image 7]. Joseph WARNER is shown to be responsible for one male Tithe (over age 21), no doubt himself, and to own three (3) horses and three (3) head of cattle.'

NOTE: Images of the Fairfax Personal Property Tax Lists cited are available online to subscribers of the Binns Genealogy "Virginia Tax List Club." Both Personal Property Tax Lists for essentially ALL Tax years for most Virginia counties from 1782 through 1920 survive and are available at the Library of Virginia. Virginia Land Tax Lists are also available for most counties and most years from 1782 through 1978. Only a small portion of the earliest of these tax lists are available in digital form from Binns Genealogy. The mentions here are a SAMPLING of the data available and these Lists should be consulted for EVERY YEAR to obtain the underlying primary evidence.

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1786 FAIRFAX, VA, TAX LIST

The 1786 Fairfax County Personal Property Tax List shows a Joseph WARNER on the same portion of this List (quasi-alphabetical by district of the County) upon which the name Ed WASHINGTON appears. Joseph WARNER is shown to be responsible for one male Tithe (over age 21), no doubt himself, and to own one slave over age 16, three (3) horses and five (5) head of cattle [Image 9].

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1789 FAIRFAX, VA, TAX LIST

In 1789, Joseph WARNER is again enumerated residing in Fairfax County, Virginia. This Tax List is among those made available for FREE viewing at the Binns Genealogy 1790 Tax List Census [Image 21]:

http://www.binnsgenealogy.com/VirginiaTaxListCensuses/Fairfa...

By 1789, Joseph WARNER seems to no longer own a slave and is up to four horses. (Cattle had ceased to be taxable and counts were dropped from the Tax Lists.) Most importantly, Joseph WARNER is shown to be responsible for TWO male Tithes, suggesting that at least one of his sons had probably reached age 16, but remained in the household.

Note the appearance of General [George] WASHINGTON on the immediately preceding page, implicitly supporting the contention that Joseph WARNER was a neighbor of President WASHINGTON.

http://www.binnsgenealogy.com/VirginiaTaxListCensuses/Fairfa...

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1795 FAIRFAX, VA, TAX LIST

Joseph WARNER again appears on the 1795 Fairfax Tax Lists (List "A") at Image 20. Joseph is again shown to be responsible for two male Tithes. A William WARNER is shown at the bottom of the page.

George WASHINGTON is on the following page [Image 21].

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1800 FAIRFAX, VA, TAX LIST

Joseph WARNER is once again shown in Fairfax in 1800 with William WARNER listed in the record immediately following [List "A," Image 9]. Joseph and William WARNER are each shown to hav emade their Personal Property Tax declarations and payment on April 23. (George WASHINGTON, Decd., is listed at Image 9 of List "B".)

There is also a Henry WARNER at Image 10 with the record dated July 28.

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1803 FAIRFAX, VA, TAX LIST

Joseph WARNER, William WARNER and Henry WARNER again appear in the Fairfax, Virginia, Tax List for 1803 [List "B", Image 11].

Zebulon and Levi WARNER appear on the Fairfax, Virginia, Personal Property Tax List in 1803 [List "A" Image 11].

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1805 FAIRFAX, VA, TAX LIST

By 1805, there seem to be no remaining WARNERs residing in Fairfax.

This (1805) is the LAST Tax Year for Fairfax available in digital form to subscribers at Binns Genealogy. It would probably be prudent to spot check a few additional later years on the microfilm to verify that this wasn't an inadvertent omission, though the evidence is rather precisely consistent with further secondary accounts, as further shown below.

NOTE: I was SKIMMING this Fairfax Tax List data and going quickly. Joseph WARNER is NOT my ancestor and I was looking at Joseph WARNER in support of an inquiry as to another different BROWN ancestor (of others) identified as residing in Marshall County, IL. Responsible family historians for this WARNER family ought to inspect and TRANSCRIBE EVERY TAX YEAR of the Fairfax records and to assess the data. MUCH can still be learned about this WARNER family by inspection of this data. The Fairfax Deed records should also be inspected.

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1819 MADISON, OH, LAND TAX LIST

The names of John WARNER, Joseph WARNER and William WARNER are purported to be on the March 1819 Land Tax List for Madison County, Ohio. (I have NOT seen these Tax Lists.)

See:

The History of Madison County, Ohio, by Robert C. Brown (Chicago, IL: W. H. Beers & Co., 1882), page 513.
https://archive.org/stream/historyofmadison00brow#page/513/m...

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1810 CENSUS

There are NO WARNERs shown to reside in Fairfax County in 1810. (Virginia Census records from 1790 and 1800 do NOT survive.)

Since Joseph WARNER seems to have disappeared from the Fairfax Tax Lists by 1805, it is most likely that he migrated away.

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1820 CENSUS

There is a Joseph WARNER, Sen., enumerated residing in Union Township, Madison County, Ohio in 1820:

Joseph WARNER, Sen.: 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 -- 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 [Union, Madison, OH 1820]

This Joseph WARNER is shown to be age 45 or more (b bef 1776), with a female of similar age. There is also a female shown to be age 10 to 15 (b abt 1805-10) residing within this Joseph WARNER's hosuehold.

A younger Joseph WARNER, Jr., is also enumerated on this same Census page:

Joseph WARNER, Jr.: 4 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 [Union, Madison, OH 1820]

Madison, OH, is shown in the secondary accounts to be the location from which Joseph WARNER migrated to Evans Township. This is also the location from which two affidavits in support of the original Revolutionary Pension application seem to have been made in 1837. Moreover, Joseph WARNER is identified as a pioneer resident of Madison County in the published Madison County History.

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1830 CENSUS

The 1830 Census records show two Joseph WARNERs residing in Union Township, Madison County, OH:

Joseph WARNER: 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 [Union, Madison, OH 1830]
Joseph WARNER: 1 - 2 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 -- 2 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 [Union, Madison, OH 1830]

The former record [Image 1 of 16] seems to be that of a Joseph WARNER, age 30 to 39 (b abt 1791-1800).

The age of the elderly male in the latter record [Image 3 of 16], age 80 to 89 (b abt 1741-50), is slightly younger than we might expect in respect of Joseph WARNER (d 05 Sep 1842 - Marshall, IL), however the age is still sufficiently close to be reasonably consistent with this possibility. The oldest female in this record is shown to be age 70 to 79, suggesting that Joseph WARNER's wife was probably then still living. There also appears to be a younger family, probably that of a son or daughter residing within Joseph WARNER's hosuehold. The younger adult male seems to be age 40 to 49 (b abt 1781-90).

There are two other males shown to be age 80 to 89 in Union Township, Madison County, in 1830, those of William JONES [Image 1 of 16] and James WELCH [Image 11 of 16]. The latter contains only one adult male and is almost certainly the record of James WELCH himself.

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Having filled in the original contentions appearing in the secondary accounts in or near Marshall County, IL, with some primary supporting evidence, I return again to secondary accounts from Madison County, OH, which further inform our understanding of this WARNER family.

In sketches of the early citizens of the Town of London, Madison County, we are given this brief sketch of what seems likely to be Joseph WARNER, Jr. (at page 539):

"Joseph Warner was from Virginia, and was a carpenter by trade. His cabin was built in 1811, and stood on the corner of Third and Main streets, now the site of H. W. Smith's residence. He came to the vicinity of London about the year 1810, being then a single man. He followed his trade many years, then removed to a farm in Union Township, and died in 1868. His wife was Sarah Atchison."

The History of Madison County, Ohio (Chicago, IL: W. H. Beers & Co., 1883), page 539.
https://archive.org/stream/historyofmadison00brow#page/539/m...

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A Table in the County History also shows several purchases of London town lots by WARNERs from 1812 to 1820, including Joseph WARNER, William WARNER and William WARNER, Jr. [at page 539]

See: https://archive.org/stream/historyofmadison00brow#page/539/m...

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The History also later states (page 542-3):

"William Warner, Henry Warner and Robert McLaughlin were also early carpenters. Joseph Warner and Richard Bryan were early shoe-makers.
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Those engaged in the manufacture of boots and shoes were Joseph S. Warner, Benjamin Tinder and A. W. Tinder."

See: https://archive.org/stream/historyofmadison00brow#page/542/m...

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WARNERs including Robert WARNER, Robert WARNER, Jr., William WARNER, and John WARNER are shown to be members of the original Methodist congregation in London beginning in 1813 or 1814 [page 571].

See: https://archive.org/stream/historyofmadison00brow#page/571/m...

Joseph WARNER's seems to have been the location of another Methodist congregation [page 572]

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The most helpful and significant of the accounts of the Madison County, Ohio, WARNER clan appear within the sketch on Union Township (pages 671-2):

"Among the well-known pioneer famlies of Madison County, and of Union Township was the Warner family. Joseph Warner, Sr., was a native of Maryland, but while a young man, removed to Virginia, where he married a lady, whose given name was Ruth, by whom he had the following children: Henry, Robert, Joseph, John, William, Amelia, Sarah, Margaret and Ann. About 1804, Mr. Warner with some of his family, removed to Ohio, and first stopped near St. Clairsville [Belmont County, OH]; and about 1808-10, some of his sons, among whom were Joseph and William, came to this county [Madison]. Joseph purchased land where his son Eli now lives, for which records show that the deed was recorded in 1810; and afterward the whole family moved to this county. Joseph Warner, Sr., lived to the remarkable age of one hundred and four years. When one hundred years of age, he rode to Washington, D. C. on horseback, and back again; and when one hundred and three years of age, he rode the same horse to Indiana to visit one of his children, then residing there, where he died about a year afterward. Joseph Warner, Jr., was a carpenter by trade, which business he followed for many years, in connection with farming. He built one of the first houses erected in London, after the laying-out of the town, and for several years did a great amount of carpenter's work in London; subsequently moved with his family to town, but, after a few years residence there, he moved back to the farm. He subsequently purchased more land, till he owned 300 acres. He married Sarah Atchison, by whom he had the following children: John, who married Phebe Jefferson (has been thrice married), and now resides in Colorado; Eli Smith, married Elizabeth Pancake (is now deceased); Charles, married Isabell Chenowith; Rebecca, is unmarried; Samuel, married Susan Maria Shepherd [page 672] was twice married, is now deceased; Rachel, married James Scarf and resides in Greene County, Ohio. Mr. Warner was a member of the Methodist Church, an energetic pioneer, and became a prosperous farmer, sustaining and unblemished character, and was a much esteemed and respected citizen. He died on August 30, 1865, in this eighty-first year. His wife died April 7, 1850."

See: https://archive.org/stream/historyofmadison00brow#page/671/m...

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This latter account further informs our understanding of the movements of Joseph WARNER and his family. St. Clairsville is in Belmont County, Ohio, at the Eastern extremity of the state near Wheeling, West Virginia. On the East, Belmont County is bounded by the Ohio River, which also forms the State Line. From the Ohio River, it is only about twelve more miles to the Pennsylvania State Line (Washington and Greene Counties in PA).
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