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1905 Wayhouses & Stage Lines on Thunder Mtn Route

sharonmcconnel — 2013-05-08 15:28:59Z

Ads from Thunder Mtn News, April 22, 1905

Boise & Pearl Stage, T. B. Walker, prop.
Ola, Thunder City & Vanwyck Stage, Charles and Laurence Sults, proprietors;
Plowman's, Payette Bridge, Montour, K. P. Plowman, prop.
Taylor House, Sweet, W. Taylor & son, prop.
Warren B. Miller, Ola, stage line, wayhouse

http://gem.idgenweb.org/albm_index.html

Sharon, County Coordinator

more obits added to gem.idgenweb.org

sharonmcconnel — 2013-04-20 12:20:20Z

more obits added to http://gem.idgenweb.org/obituaries.html -

Mrs. G. W. McConnel (Mary Ellen McConnel) ( - 1902);
Nellie McConnel (1880 - 1902);
R. A. McCool (1852 - 1918);
J. H. McDaniels ( - 1910);
Frank McDowell ( - 1908);
Geo. McGowan ( - 1917);
Stella E. McLaughlin (1911-1912);
Fanny Murray (1841 -1919)

Sharon
Co. Coordinator

obituaries added to gem.idgenweb.org

sharonmcconnel — 2013-04-20 12:19:52Z

Obituaries added to http://gem.idgenweb.org/obituaries.html -

Jack Baker ( - 1927)
Frank Bork (1879 - 1918)
James R. Bradley, Garden Valley ( - 1928)
Emily Bramblee (1862 - 1924)
William H. Burdge (1864 - 1929)
S. E. Burnham ( -1929)
George Caldwell Killed in Mining Accident at Pearl, 1907
George Hall, First Idaho Soldier killed in Spanish American War
John McLean, county's first WWI Casualty (1918)
Joseph C. Shepherd (1836 - 1904)
Dewey Woody (1898 - 1979)
Joyce Vernon Woody (1925 - 2010)

Sharon
County Coordinator

Re: looking for Bernadine (Penney, Harwood) Eisenbeiss

sharonmcconnel — 2013-01-07 06:23:29Z

The Gem County Museum is open W. - Sa, 1 - 5pm, all year, & they have collection of obituaries that is current within that time-frame.

City Hall has a card file of all the burials, as well as the cemetery book, for Emmett-Riverside Cemetery. The sexton at the cemetery has the same info. City Hall is open from 8-5. The sexton is at the cemetery from 8:30-4:40, and takes his lunch from 12-12:30. Emmett City Hall
501 E Main Street, Emmett, ID 83617, (208) 365-6050

Sharon
County Coordinator, gem.idgenweb.org

Re: looking for Bernadine (Penney, Harwood) Eisenbeiss

RBestrom7380 — 2013-01-07 01:52:07Z

She married Joseph Lamb Eisenbeiss on 30 March 1943 in Ada Co, ID
http://abish.byui.edu/specialCollections/westernStates/weste...
--So this is a remarriage or incorrect record.

I could not find online information regarding her, but here is the obit of her son:

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/messenger-index/obituary.as...

It identifies his son and other family members. I'd suggest contact of his son to find out where Grandma is buried.

Re: looking for Bernadine (Penney, Harwood) Eisenbeiss

judyartley53 — 2013-01-06 00:07:18Z

Hi,

I looked through the few cemeteries within Gem Co. that are online but didn't find her. The Gem City Cemetery isn't online and since she lived there, that's one you should look in to. Do a Google search for that name and you'll find their telephone number.

If you still don't find her, contact the Gem County Historical Museum Compex, www.gemcountymuseum.org/links.html. Be sure to look for winter hours. A lot of museum in "snow country" don't open until the spring. Successful Searching!

looking for Bernadine (Penney, Harwood) Eisenbeiss

mackenzie2270 — 2012-12-10 23:05:10Z

I am looking to see if any one might know where she may be buried at. She was born to William and Nora Penney on March 11, 1904 in Masonville Iowa Died Spetember 24, 1992 in Emmette Idaho. Dshe was my grandmothers sister. She was married to Orlando Harwood and in 1938 she married Joe Eisenbeiss. Thank you for you time

Linda

Descendants of Elizabeth (Russell) Archibald - Reunion Sept 8, 2012

lanaa2000 — 2012-07-19 16:41:20Z

This year is the 150th anniversary of LDS Pioneer Elizabeth Russell Archibald's immigration to Utah.

Many people in Utah and Idaho are descended from Thomas and Elizabeth (Russell) Archibald. Thomas Archibald died in Scotland but Elizabeth Russell Archibald came to Wellsville with several of her children. Some went to Idaho and some went to Canada.

A family reunion for all descendants of Elizabeth Russell Archibald is being planned for Saturday, Sept 8, 2012 at the Wellsville, Utah bowery by cousin Brandon Sundeen. He is planning games for the younger children, sharing of family history info for the adults, followed by a memorial service at the Wellsville Cemetery. Food is POT LUCK. Bring your own lunch and all will share what they bring.

If you have any family heirlooms, photos, letters, etc.. pertaining to Elizabeth Russell Archibald or her immediate family, please bring them for viewing.

For more details contact Brandon Sundeen. Phone: 503-396-2178 OR email: brandonsundeen@gmail.com

Please help us get the word out. Pass this information on to all of your extended family so that they may attend if they are interested.

Descendants of Elizabeth (Russell) Archibald - Reunion Sept 8, 2012

lanaa2000 — 2012-07-19 16:41:11Z

Family Group Sheets

sharonmcconnel — 2012-05-01 15:43:40Z

Family Group Sheets added to http://gem.idgenweb.org/bios_index.html last week, courtesy of Darlene Mingus:

John Jackson (Frances Catherine Kesgard) Christison
Thomas J. (Margaret Griffiths Williams) Davies
George (Julia McAuliffe/McCullough) Gardner
James Andrew Kesgard (Kjaersgaard)
Christen Andersen Kjaersgaard, Kjersgaard
Elcanal L. (Sarah Ann Shroll) Knouse
Clayton Bane (Minnie Alice Knouse) Knox
Douglas Clayton (Margaret Griffiths Williams) Knox
Conrad Cornelius (Lavina Dollarhide) Mingus
Fletcher Earl (Minnie May Knox) Mingus

Thanks Darlene for sharing!

Sharon
County Coordinator, http://gem.idgenweb.org

Ruth Lyons' "The Village that Grew"

sharonmcconnel — 2012-04-20 17:28:50Z

I have indexed the chapt entitled "Early Settlers" & included snippets of Mrs. Lyons' biographical profiles, which I added to the website this morning.

Names include
Bane, Basye, Bennett, Bigham, Burdage, Degan, Fuller, Gill, Goodsell, Hansen, Kelley, Kesgard, Klingback, Knox, Martin, Portlock, Regan, Riggs, Shepherd, Smith, Wardwell, Womack

http://gem.idgenweb.org/histry-EarlySettlers.html -

Sharon
County Coordinator, http://gem.idgenweb.org

Re: All along the river by Nellie Ireton Miles

mamads1 — 2012-04-18 22:56:18Z

I remember when her book came out and a lot of the people in Emmett were concerned because there were so many errors in it. I remember she called my mother about the Kesgard Family.

I read her book years ago.

She put a lot of effort into writing it.

Re: All along the river by Nellie Ireton Miles

mamads1 — 2012-04-18 22:42:52Z

The Dewey Orchard sound familiar so I probably picked fruit in their orchard like I did most all of them along the south slope.

Re: All along the river by Nellie Ireton Miles

mamads1 — 2012-04-18 22:39:59Z

Yes, Meg descends from the Walter Scott Knox side of the family and my husband from his brother Clayton Bane Knox.

Re: All along the river by Nellie Ireton Miles

sharonmcconnel — 2012-04-18 16:46:35Z

Hansens, Kesgards, & Knoxes are all in Ruth Lyons' book, "The Village that Grew" - I started new threads. The museum and city library both have copies & ocassionally I see one for sale. Anita at Main Street Books might even have a copy.

Knox

sharonmcconnel — 2012-04-18 16:17:45Z

"The Village that Grew", by Ruth B. Lyons, 1979, p. 30:

In 1870 Douglas Knox bought a farm up the road from the Burdges for $700 and took up some adjoining land. Before moving to Martinsville, the Knoxes had operated a stage station on Willow Creek. Their oldest daughter, Ella Knox Parrish paints a word picture of her pioneer home,

I was two years old when my dad brought us here to settle in a little log cabin three miles downstream from Martinsville. It was there he planted the first fruit trees, crab apple and prune, ever grown in the valley . . .

Burdge

sharonmcconnel — 2012-04-18 16:00:40Z

"The Village that Grew", by Ruth B. Lyons, 1979, p. 29:

In October of 1864, (Doc) William Burdge and his emigrant outfit, the finest equipped that ever entered the village, came grinding down the Camel's Back into Payette Valley. He brought the first Roan Durham cattle and Morgan strain horses to Idaho.

The Burdges, like most of the valley pioneers, settled near the river. They purchased part of the Block House Ranch located two miles west of Martinsville. The north side of the property extended to the river enabling Mr. Burdge to build a private ditch . . .

In 1874, he hauled stone grinding wheels from Eagle and set up a grist-mill. The stones came originally from Canyon Hill northwest of Caldwell. see http://gem.idgenweb.org/albm_burdgegrist.html

Klingback

sharonmcconnel — 2012-04-18 15:51:27Z

"The Village that Grew", by Ruth B. Lyons, 1979, p. 24:

The Klingbacks came from Denmark in about 1871. They settled on the north side of the river below the Price Bane place. Jacob C. Klingback and family supplemented their living by selling fish, poultry and eggs to the (Boise) Basin mining camps . . .

Kjerrsgaard, Kesgard

sharonmcconnel — 2012-04-18 15:47:58Z

"The Village that Grew", by Ruth B. Lyons, 1979, p. 28f:

Christian and Katherine Kjerrsgaard and their daughters, Katherine and Mary, took passage on a wind jammer and sailed from Denmark in 1862. It was nine weeks before they landed at Castelgarden, New York. Lena Driscoll, a descendant continues the story:

The young couple set out for the golden west in quest of a home. They traveled by train to St. Louis, Missouri, where Katherine bought a cow with her savings. Eventually the family joined a wagon train. . . . Their journey was halted near the present town of Preston, Idaho, where Katherine gave birth to a son.

In a few days, they traveled on and decided to take the shortcut down the Tim Goodall Hill (probably Freezeout), as it was called at the time, and across the Payette Valley to Washington. When they reached the hill, the wagon was roughlocked. Katherine, seeing the steep incline, walked down carrying her three-weeks-old son.

The Kjerrsgaards went on to Walla Walla, but after living there for a year, they came back and took up a homestead along the (Payette) river east of the Riggs place. Their first home was made of native cottonwood logs. . . .

Hansens

sharonmcconnel — 2012-04-18 15:35:32Z

"The Village that Grew", by Ruth B. Lyons, 1979, p. 27:

The Nel Hansens, also Danes, took up land across the river from the Klingbacks. Their son Dan, remembers:

Dad homesteaded near the slough because he needed driftwood to make charcoal for his forge. He made nails and horseshoes out of iron hauled in from Kelton, Utah. Dad brought his anvil all the way from Denmark and set up the first blacksmith shop in the community. We went to the Wilson School, built in 1876, three months out of the year. . . .

Re: All along the river by Nellie Ireton Miles

sharonmcconnel — 2012-04-18 14:58:38Z

Seems like Meg-at-the-museum descends from Knoxes.

Re: All along the river by Nellie Ireton Miles

sharonmcconnel — 2012-04-18 14:53:38Z

When I was a kid (50's-60's) & probably even a decade later there was a Dewey Orchard on the south side of the Dewey Road, just before the road curve up to the canal bridge.

A possible source for info on Kjersgaard/Kiersgaard or Kesgard, and Hansens might be Ruth Lyons' books, "Valley of Plenty" or "The Village that Grew". It's been yrs since I've read them & neither have indexes. "Valley of Plenty" is abt her homesteading ancestoral family, Edson & Sarah Bishop, & they too were west of present-day Emmett. "The Village that Grew" is abt Emmett & she relied heavily on Mills' earlier work.

I included Katie Kesgard in my "Homesteading Women" story - http://gem.idgenweb.org/histry-womensteaders.html. The complete Kesgard story is yet to be told.

Re: All along the river by Nellie Ireton Miles

mamads1 — 2012-04-18 02:05:25Z

You're welcome. It's a great book!

Re: All along the river by Nellie Ireton Miles

mamads1 — 2012-04-18 02:03:54Z

It was on 908 South Washington Street in the late 1940's and early 1950's.

Re: All along the river by Nellie Ireton Miles

DeborahDeweyGravett — 2012-04-18 01:48:42Z

Thank you for the info. Colonel Dewey was the Wrong set of Deweys for me. You saved me buying a book. Thanks much!

Re: All along the river by Nellie Ireton Miles

DeborahDeweyGravett — 2012-04-18 01:46:57Z

Thank you so much. Was it the one on Dewey Lane?

Re: All along the river by Nellie Ireton Miles

mamads1 — 2012-04-17 17:45:13Z

Thanks for the interesting information on Montour. I didn't know any of that. My husband and I both come from pioneering families in Emmett-the Kjersgaard,Kiersgaard or Kesgard, Klingbacks and Hansens came at the same time. My husband's family is the Knox and Knouse families.

We live in Ola now but that is just considered part of the Emmett, Sweet, Montour area.

This is a wonderful and very interesting book.

Re: All along the river by Nellie Ireton Miles

sharonmcconnel — 2012-04-17 16:34:50Z

Wm Dewey Jr. - http://gem.idgenweb.org/histry-montour.html
"Col" Wm. H. Dewey (Sr)and sons Wm & Edward H, had major mining interests in Silver City, Thunder Mountain & Pearl.

The town of Montour was slightly east of the Marsh-Ireton Ranch. The present-day Bureau of Rec Montour Park is on the old school site.

Payette Co. genweb has put an index of Mills' book on-line - http://payettecounty.info/books/iretonindex.html

Sharon
Gem Co. CC, gem.idgenweb.org

Re: All along the river by Nellie Ireton Miles

mamads1 — 2012-04-16 00:05:44Z

The only mention of the Dewey name is on p.158. It said the Dewey interests of Nampa acquired the place. I think it was talking about where Montour area where McConnel family lived after the ranch was cut into small farms.

In Emmett, Idaho we lived in the Dewey house but I don't know their name.

Re: All along the river by Nellie Ireton Miles

DeborahDeweyGravett — 2012-04-15 23:42:04Z

Can you tell me which Dewey familes are mentioned in the book?

Re: I'm looking for a marriage record in Emmett, Gem Co., Idaho

notatrivialpursuit — 2012-02-25 15:10:49Z

Thank you and bless you!

Re: I'm looking for a marriage record in Emmett, Gem Co., Idaho

amagi71 — 2012-02-25 14:54:26Z

Marriage license and certificate attached. Like most other Idaho marriage records, the names of the parents are not mentioned unless they happen to be witnesses to the marriage. In your case they appear not to be.

I'm looking for a marriage record in Emmett, Gem Co., Idaho

notatrivialpursuit — 2012-02-25 01:18:03Z

I'm looking for the information off of the marriage license for, William Arthur Haines and Gladys Mae Ray, who were married on 25 March 1927 in Emmett, Gem County, Idaho. The record of the marriage can be found in the marriage book at the County Courthouse located in Gem Co., ID in Volume 2 on Page 342.

I'm looking for their birth dates and names of their parents. I'd like to get a hard copy of their marriage license but if I could just get the info off the license I could save some $.

Thanks to anyone who might be able to help.
Kim

Lowell C. ESKELSON of Nevis, MN 1944

drbrownlee — 2012-02-06 06:28:29Z

Lowell is pictured in the 44-A class yearbook of Curtis Field, in Brady, Texas. He is an aviation cadet. I'm not kin but thought this might help someone researching the ESKELSON family.

Re: SMITH, Walter (obituary wanted)

AG21015 — 2012-02-05 01:02:28Z

Apparently, the paper did not print an entire article and what I have is all there is.

Thanks for the help!

Ann

Re: SMITH, Walter (obituary wanted)

judyartley53 — 2011-12-14 07:10:59Z

Hi,
same procedure as before. Laura will be able to find the entire obituary for you. Successful Searching!

Re: BOREN, Esbert (obituary wanted)

judyartley53 — 2011-12-14 07:09:17Z

Hi,
I'd look in Gem Co. first for his obituary. There is an obituary volunteer for this county at freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~obitl/volid.html
Scroll down to Gem Co. and choose Laura.

However, he might have died in Boise, Idaho. I think me might have gone to a bigger city for hospitalization. Laura is the obituary volunteer for Ada Co. too. Successful Searching!

BOREN, Esbert (obituary wanted)

AG21015 — 2011-12-10 21:57:24Z

I am wanting a copy of an obituary:

Esbert Boren
born 17 Mar 1915 in Emmett, Gem, Idaho
died 03 Mar 1970 I'm not sure where (probably Emmett)
buried in Riverside Cemetery in Emmett

married Mary Smith

Any help that you can give me will be very much appreciated.
Ann

SMITH, Walter (obituary wanted)

AG21015 — 2011-11-08 18:30:02Z

I am wanting an obituary for Walter Lee Smith. I have a portion of his obituary (see below) but I would really like a copy of the entire article.

What I have:
Messinger-Index ~ 29 Dec 1944
WALTER LEE SMITH died Monday at his home in Emmett. Funeral services were held this afternoon at the Bucknum Chapel with Rev. Gilbert officiating. Burial was in Riverside Cemetery.
Mr Smith was born in Ohio on May 14, 1873, and had lived in Emmett for the past 12 years. He is survived by his wife, three daughters, Mrs Clarabelle Rogers of Emmett, Mrs Hattie Alsop of New Plymouth and Mrs Mary...

Any help that you can give me will be very much appreciated.
Thanks - Ann

Thompson Family Photo Collection

sharonmcconnel — 2011-10-25 22:02:51Z

Courtesy of Wes Bell, Thompson Family Researcher, seven photos from the "Thompson Family Collection" just added to http://gem.idgenweb.org/albm_index.html - includes Jack Knife School students, 1906.

Thanks, Wes, for sharing!
Sharon
County Coordinator
gem.idgenweb.org

August Maas Family

Fletchers93 — 2011-10-22 22:40:55Z

Hello Kristine, I would have e-mailed you privately through ancestry.com's message feature, but I don't have a membership, so I couldn't do that; therefore, please respond to this message using that feature so that I can talk to you privately (I know, so confusing!).

I saw that you are related to August Maas. I am descended from his sister Emily Maas who married Joseph M. Lena (Line, Liner, Louis, Luy, etc.). I hope that we can exchange information on the Maas family and its relations.

Thank you,

Samantha Fletcher

Re: surname thompson

MarilynDicks — 2011-09-10 20:29:57Z

Michell, did you ever get a response to this? I am also looking for their obituaries and all of their siblings.
Marilyn

"Pioneer Stories" at local newspaper site

sharonmcconnel — 2011-08-09 15:53:34Z

The Messenger Index is reprinting "Pioneer Stories" published in the late '40's. They're archived at www.messenger-index.com/history

Some of them are factful & some demonstrate great storytelling skills - you be the judge.

Sharon
http://gem.idgenweb.org/

Re: HOGAN in Emmett, Gem, Idaho in 1900's

RBestrom7380 — 2011-08-07 05:15:23Z

Grandmother = Joanne G. HOGAN (b. 16 Dec 1931 - )

Her Parents
Wanda Dowdle (you indicate her mother was "Doudle") KINGSFORD, born 15 April 1911 in Idaho, died 4 Feb 1982 in Yakima
--Daughter of
Edward Francis Kingsford, born 10 Feb 1876 in Franklin, Franklin Co, Idaho, deid 20 Nov 1942
in Blackfoot, Bingham Co, ID.
Ethelyn Doudle, born 21 Nov 1879 in Franklin, Oneida County, ID, died 9 July 1955 in Layton,
Davis Co, UT.

Louis Clarence HOGAN, born 14 July 1893 in Indian Territory, Oklahoma, died 8 June 1952 in Arco, Butte County, Idaho
--son of
Dean HOGAN, identified as Lewis E. Hogan on your family tree, born Mar 1856 in Missouri, died Oklahoma
Annie GURBER , identified as Annie B. Sarber on your tree, born 10 Nov 1872 in Kansas, died 11 Mar 1948 in Gem County, ID

The 1900 Census of Township 19, Creek Nation, Indian Territory (Oklahoma), census enumerated 13 June.
Lewis E. Hogan, born March 1856 in Missouri to father born in Germany, mother in New York, Livery man (Livery stables/horses). Married six years (1893/1894)
Annie B, born May 1873 in Kansas to father born in Missouri, mother in Kansas.
Lewis C, born July 1894 in Indian Terr,
Walter J, born June 1885 in Indian Terr.

The World War I Draft Registration Card Image Database:
Louis Clarence Hogan, born July 14, 1894 (I have found a good number of persons DOB in the registration were off one year, so he "could" have been born in 1893). He was born on the Creek Nation, he was a miner (type not readable, but I would guess "coal"), he had a mother and sister depending on him. He registered in Pittsburg, OK.

The 1920 Census for Emmett, Gem County, Idaho
Annabel(sic)) Hogan, age 48(1871/1872), born in Kansas to both parents born in Indiana, laborer/box factory, widow.
Louis C, age 23 (1896/1897), born in OK to father born in Missouri, mother in Indiana
Clara, 11, born in OK
--She is shown as being the residence owner, the family above is renting and appears to be in the same house, a John, 30, and Mary, 22, Tillman, john born in Indiana to both parents born in Unknown.

I also found the story from Richard Elias concerning Louis that you had posted into your information:
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/75153/person/-2131387475/stor...
--The Story is hat outlaw "Bell Star" tried to poison him by putting rattlesnake venom in his drink. This sounds more like family lore than potential fact. Actually spelled "Belle Starr" (Myra Belle Shirley) was an Indian Territory outlaw, but she would have found it much easier just to shoot him. Her gang operated out of the Fort Worth area, Starr Hollow is named after them.
--The Shelly Bros story is interesting, but there is no indication of a connection to Lewis Hogan. This site: http://www.okolha.net/bick_byrd_king_names.htm has an article on E. Hickman "Heck" Bruner that was involved with both the Shelly's and Belle Starr.
--I did see the link for http://www.okolha.net/dusm_usm_H.htm that identified "L.E. Hogan, Deputy US Marshal 1894- "
I also found: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ok/topic/lawmen/mollie/usmarshal... indicating a L.E. Hogan in Tulsa, 1901. So, did he go back, or was this simply another person.

This site: http://www.okolha.net/McAlester_McWeir_king_nmaes.htm identifies a John McCann and sent with Dean Hogan to arrest the Shelly Brothers in the winter of 1895; however it appeared from other documentation the Shelly Bros were arrested by Bruner in 1894.

But, that doesn't prove the person. As you indicated, I also have a gov't, public service background, mine being in investigations. I MUST have proof in genealogy, as in crime. In my genealogy work, I've seen to many family stories turn to dust with proof. Sometimes there is a hint of fact, sometimes not. "I'm a government agent…yeah… In fact I was sent to the moon to protect the astronauts from space aliens…yeah." My recommendation is to ignore this story and first concentrate on identification.

From this point everything identified was confusing. I think the 1985, 1986, 1987 and i, ii, and iii, is part of your documentation system and confuses the issue. "They had the following children…" not sure who "They" represents, but it is not material to your main question.

"I have not been able to find a connection to a Dean HOGAN and an Annabel GURBER."
Your tree indicates Anna B. Sarber, this posting says Annabel Gurber. You need to identify where you obtained the names of Sarber and Gurber.

Yes, a marriage license would help; but they were not recorded at the State level (In most States) until into the 1900's. Oklahoma did not become a State until 1907, so any marriage records would be at the County level, IF maintained, and IF in Oklahoma. The same goes for the birth certificates of the children. You would need to know where they were born and hope that County maintained the records AND the mother's maiden name was listed.

For Hogan and Anna, yes your investigation must be done in Oklahoma. They were married circa 1893/1894. Anna might not be the first wife of Hogan. I don't know if you found her in the 1910 Census, I did not. She is identified as a widow in the 1920 Census in Idaho. A good portion of "widows" in the early Census were not widows, but had been deserted or divorced, the stigma caused the "lie."

You show a L.E. Hogan in Tulsa in the 1910 Census, age is 54, born in Missouri, father in Germany, mother in Missouri, which matches search criteria, except the 1900 census showed mother born in New York. The errors in the census "might" explain this. Son Jennings, age 10, born in OK; Lottie 6 (1903/1904) and Eugene, 4 (1905/1906).
I find two family trees having Jennings. One is yours (Reeves/Yzaquirre), the other is simply "Hogan – Jennings A", showing mother as Anna B. Sarber. Jennings is shows with death 1 Mar 1937 in Emmett, Gem Co, ID. I suspect this one is yours also.

I reached a point of research that I feel that I'm doing everything you've already done, as recorded on your family tree.

You need to post on the Rootsweb message boards in Oklahoma. When you post, again, include the link to your family tree, otherwise a few volunteers that look would muddle through the census and perhaps find your family tree. Also, leave out all the unneeded information. Start with: You are seeking the parents of Louis Clarence Hogan, leave out the other side of your grandmother's tree. Use the basic question, who is Lewis E. Hogan and his family.

Also, there are volunteers that might help out. In Oklahoma: http://www.raogk.org/oklahoma.htm
In Idaho: http://www.raogk.org/idaho2.htm
I set this one to show for Gem County. Lori does Public Records-Library. She could check the City Directory of Emmett to follow the year publications seeing when the Hogans first arrived and if Lewis also was in the residence. A City Directory (Polks) are an annual publication that lists persons living in a populated area (City, County) in alphabetical order. Later versions also had cross reference by address, but with just the head of household named. A listing would identify the person, the spouse in parenthesis, the type of employment, sometimes the place of employment and address, then the residence address of the person. If a spouse was employed, they also would be listed within the alphabetical listing of the last name. Others in the household were also so listed if employed, children were even sometimes listed as "student." Once the Subject of the search is found, the address should also be searched for others living at that household with that last name.
--In Public Records Court House, she can see if there is recorded documents (deeds, power-of-attorney, marriage), also looking for death records, etc.

Ron Bestrom
Tacoma, WA (just down the road).

Re: HOGAN in Emmett, Gem, Idaho in 1900's

judyartley53 — 2011-08-06 04:37:07Z

Hi Kristine,
Was their marriage info listed in their obituaries?

If not, you'll need a copy of their marriage license. Lewis E. Hogan married Anna/Annie/Annabel about 1893. One of his stories said he was fighting outlaws in 1895 in Checotah, Oklahoma. That's where I'd look for their marriage info. However, I'm not familiar with where those records are kept in Oklahoma. If you don't know, you can look up the county on Rootsweb.com, Home, about half way down the page on the left-hand side. There's city/state converter to county.

Anna/Annie/Annabel's maiden name should be listed on one of the children's birth certificates.

Her maiden name will be on her death certificate if the person reporting to the County knew her maiden name. You already have her name as Anna B. Sarber on your family tree so I'm confused when you say you don't know it.

The Gem County Clerk-Auditor-Recorder, co.gem.id.us/clerk-auditor-recorder/default.htm has copies of death certificates and there is a fee. Successful Searching!

HOGAN in Emmett, Gem, Idaho in 1900's

Kristine_Reeves — 2011-07-21 05:26:37Z

Good Day,

I am hoping someone can help me.

I have confirmed my maternal grandmother's family up to a certain point through careful examination of census records. When I took to the internet, I came across the following listing for the name of my grandmother's father's parents names. I have found a conflict and am hoping someone can give me reason to believe that the information provided is correct.

My grandmother = Joanne G. HOGAN (b. 16 Dec 1931 - )

Her Parents (From internet site & confirmation from my grandmother) = Wanda Dowdle KINGSFORD (Etheland DOWDLE , Robert Hughes DOWDLE , Robert DOWDLE , James DOWDLE , Robert , Sr DOWDLE , John)

Wanda married Louis Clarence HOGAN, son of Dean HOGAN and Annie GURBER (my grandmother does not remember his parents names for sure. Without telling her the options, she mentioned that she thought Annie was correct - so in the case listed here or the one below, I am more confident that Annie is correct, but not as confident that Dean is correct.)

They had the following children (all correctly identified by my grandmother):

1985 F i Joan Gaelia HOGAN
1986 F ii Barbara Lou HOGAN
1987 F iii Louis Kay HOGAN

Everything listed above is correct EXCEPT for the parents of Louis Clarence HOGAN. My understanding (based on census records) is that his parents names were:

F: Lewis E. HOGAN
M: Anna/Annie B/Annabel

I have not been able to find a connection to a Dean HOGAN and an Annabel GURBER.

Essentially, I am at my brick wall with this line of the family. I can not find Lewis E. HOGAN's parents nor can I find a marriage record that will give me Anna/Annie B/Annabel's maiden name.

Any help you can provide or thoughts on where to go from here would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Found: Family Bible: More Info

rebamc47 — 2011-06-25 04:06:03Z

I've come across a large old family Bible that is dedicated to Mother from Ida and Ada.
Marriages: Samuel Birdwell and Ida Bell Hurt at Pearl ID, July 4th 1898
Albert Pickle and Ada Maree Hurt at Pearl Idaho March 15th 1904.
Births: Bradford Hurt, Dec 18 1854
Bessie Gilbert Hurt, Sept 11th 1857
Ida Belle Hurt, Oct 11, 1878
Ada Maree Hurt, March 17 1882
......
These are written in the middle of the Bible along with many more entries. There are 2 loose pages from another source, possibly a Bible, including deaths, births, marriages with surnames Gilbert, Newby, Hurt, Pettigrew, and Burkhard and mentioning Emmett, Idaho.

Anyone that may be descended from these families, or know someone who is, please contact me so that the Bible can be returned to its proper family. I am not related to any of these people, as far as know.

Reba McMillan

Found: Family Bible

rebamc47 — 2011-06-25 02:28:55Z

My brother found a very large family bible - presentation page, to Mother by Ida and Ada (Hurt); marriage page - Bradford Hurt and Bessie A Gilbert; a very aged insert mentions Gilberts, Pettigrews, Newbys, Hurts among others. Anyone that would be interested in this Bible, please contact me at boise_genweb@yahoo.com.

Re: Charity Mabel Burlingham Evans/Crawford

fraril1 — 2011-06-24 18:39:28Z

Sorry for being late in my response,Thank you very much for the info

Re: My great grandfather

Joyce1812va1 — 2011-05-28 12:49:31Z

are you posti. about alfred simon being myron simon's father?
For I am fiding a John R Simon and Catherine to be his parents.
Have found Lenora with her parents Myron and edith in 1920

As for Idaho.. the only thing I am finding for Charles and Lenora is a marriage record for july 1 1922 in caldwell, ID