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Amos Parmelee

3uair — 2013-04-21 18:40:36Z

Seeking the parents of Amos Parmelee, husband of Susan Dayton, father of Horace Parmelee, and a farmer in Orland Hills, Cook Co., Illinois from early 1840's until his death. He was born between 1805 and 1810 and died in 1881. Amos was born in either Westcheter Co.,New York, or possibly in Fairfield Co., CT. Does anyone know who Amos' parents were?

Re: Jeremiah & Elizabeth (Whelan) Dowling from Dromard, Tipperary Co., Irland

dowlingglass — 2013-04-20 22:12:35Z

i am a great gran son of jeremiah dowling
gran son of thomas dowling who died in 1941 buried in errill
co laois 2 mile from dromard in tipperary

Re: Cromwell - Baptism record question

ellenbohan_1 — 2013-04-18 14:15:22Z

Shared your questions with some friends & they reminded me that some Irish names have some quirks. In tracing their Irish roots they found that Hackett is the "newer" version of Guckian (goo-key or goo-keen). Looked on www.libraryireland.com/AnglicisedSurnames but couldn't locate a reference to Coughlan but did find Bowen-Bohan.

Re: Cromwell - Baptism record question

woike1 — 2013-04-18 00:58:43Z

Thank you for taking the time to offer your help, Yes, she was a woman and born in Ireland so a brogue is likely. The baptism records were for her children.

Re: Cromwell - Baptism record question

ellenbohan_1 — 2013-04-17 23:11:09Z

One other thing just crossed my mind. Coughlan - Cough - Coughie or Coughey. How often have you hear someone referred to by just their surname (think about Downton Abbey's servants). When writing out Coughlan you can see where someone might shorten the name to Cough & then adding "ie" or "ey" to the name as a bit of whimsy. Coffee! Nicknames can stick for life.

Re: Cromwell - Baptism record question

ellenbohan_1 — 2013-04-17 23:06:20Z

Coffee to Coughan? Could the person have spoken with a brogue & been misunderstood? Was Coffee a woman? I ask because a mistake on a woman's record in the pre-right to vote days could be taken lightly by authorities. Once she married it was her husband's name that needed to be correct. Yes, some modern birth records would ask for mother's maiden name - midwives & doctors could pass on incorrect info. Correcting the record would have involved getting all the parties & witnesses to town hall & someone would say why all the fuss!

If the woman had not been born in USA & the govt wanted proof of birth & lineage then a baptismal certificate might be the first & only document with her name on it prior to her marriage in the 18th, 19th & early 20th centuries.

Cromwell - Baptism record question

woike1 — 2013-04-14 14:09:49Z

Does anyone know why a surname would be different on a baptism record? My ancestor was surnamed Coffee on most documents I have found, but on baptism records provided to the US Navy Pension office, the last name was listed as Coughlan

Any suggestions/help is appreciated

Re: Amos Parmelee

LDUZ2 — 2013-04-05 16:44:39Z

Most of the Parmelee families in CT & elswhere originated in New Haven & Guilford. "Families of Early Guilford, Connecticut, Vol. II " page 943, shows many of the families and tells where they lived or moved to. I didnt see an Amos abt 1805, but the genealogies dont list all the children born after the families moved. You may be able to trace the ones that lived in NY about that time period.
http://search.ancestry.com/Browse/BookView.aspx?dbid=48019&a...

Re: Taylor, Harvey E & Esther Carr

RITAMGAROFANO — 2013-04-04 02:10:12Z

Have you found the information that you are looking for? Harvey E Taylor is buried in Trinity Church Cemetery in Portland Middlesex Co CT and there is a picture of his tombstone on Find A Grave - His memorial is #42876275 - There are other Taylor also buried in this cemetery. Are you related to Ann Taylor Clew? Rita

Re: Amos Parmelee

3uair — 2013-04-03 23:32:06Z

Amos was born in NY, possibly in Oneida County. Are you related to the Parmelee family?

Re: BATES

ljcule64 — 2013-03-10 07:13:14Z

I am a bates and am looking for info. on my gggrandfather named Joseph William Bates. He has 3 children named Platt Scoville Bates, William Bates and girl?Bates. Platt had a son named Leon Scoville Bates. Do you think that we could be in the same family tree since we both have Bates and Scoville in our family tree names?

Re: BATES

ljcule64 — 2013-03-10 07:12:37Z

Sandra, the Scoville and Bates that you are related to is Scoville and Platt a first name and Bates the last name.

Re: Viola Tinkham Gilbert- her wed notice & her obit.

vansicklen1 — 2013-02-21 20:41:06Z

Here they are, attached.

Dorothy's father, Eugene S. Drake, was the original owner of that Greenhouse, he sold it to son-in-law Albert Lindner. Eugene S. Drake died in 1928, he was married again and had two young daughters when he died plus the daughter, Mrs. Albert Lindner, from his first marriage.

Re: Viola Tinkham Gilbert- her wed notice & her obit.

SIFER — 2013-02-21 20:07:19Z

Thank you very much for this and father's obit too, and I would appreciate the notices about her sister's daughther.

Re: Viola Tinkham Gilbert- her wed notice & her obit.

vansicklen1 — 2013-02-21 19:16:36Z

The attached may be helpful.

I am not related.

By the way, her sister had a daughter Dorothy Drake who wed in 1917 and died in 1965, would you care to have those notices too?

Re: Viola Tinkham Gilbert- father's obit

vansicklen1 — 2013-02-21 19:15:04Z

Attached is the father's obit

Viola Tinkham Gilbert

SIFER — 2013-02-21 15:53:04Z

Looking for information about Viola Tinkham Gilbert born ca. 1882 and died 1910 in Haddam. Tinkham may be a maiden name as a Viola Timkham born ca 1882 was living in the household of George Henry Tinkham, her brother, in the 1900 census at 20 Center Street, Hartford.

Re: RICHMOND, Hannah, Robert, Corintha; Daniel STRONG; BARRETT

DRichmond — 2013-02-19 21:28:42Z

I have Hannah's father as Jacob Richmond. Apparently, Jacob's parents were Robert and an unknow woman. Robert married two more times and had several other children. Hannah's siblings were Warren (1767-1815) m. Mary Terry, Seymour (1768-1826), Thomas D b 1772, Robert (1773-1863) m. Phebe Parmelee, Job (1778-1865) m. Ruth BARRETT, Hannah (1780-1853) m. Daniel Strong (1776-1859)

Re: RICHMOND, Hannah, Robert, Corintha; Daniel STRONG; BARRETT

DRichmond — 2013-02-19 21:28:04Z

Re: Machold help wanted from Germany

a119568 — 2013-01-17 12:42:28Z

Here is the Machold family in the 1930 & 1940 census.
Henry and wife Katherine of Germany in 1930 census and
sons Henry and Fred in the 1940 census.
You can also find the family in the 1900,1910 & 1920 census.
Henry's wife also goes by Mary/Marie K. So her middle name is likely Katherine. They also had a daughter Louise M. b. in 1899. They were in Killingworth by 1910.
Martin Keith Machold, grandson of Henry and son of Fred, may still live in Killingworth with wife Bette Anne and son Scott Dylan Machold who may live in North Carolina or Connecticut.
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name: Henry T B Machold
event: Census
event date: 1930
event place: Killingworth, Middlesex, Connecticut
gender: Male
age: 57
marital status: Married
race: White
birthplace: Germany
estimated birth year: 1873
immigration year: 1894
relationship to head of household: Head
father's birthplace: Germany
mother's birthplace: Germany
enumeration district number: 0011
family number: 2
sheet number and letter: 1A
line number: 6
nara publication: T626, roll 271
film number: 2340006
digital folder number: 4531875
image number: 00362
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head Henry T B Machold M 57 Germany
wife Katherine A Machold F 54 Germany
son Theodore N Machold M 26 New York
son Frederick M Machold M 23 New York
son Henry A Machold M 22 New York

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name: Henery A Machold
titles & terms:
event: Census
event year: 1940
event place: Haddam Town, Middlesex, Connecticut, United States
gender: Male
age: 31
marital status: Married
race (original):
race (standardized): White
relationship to head of household (original):
relationship to head of household (standardized): Head
birthplace: New York
estimated birth year: 1909
residence in 1935: Same House
enumeration district number: 4-15
family number: 193
sheet number and letter: 8A
line number: 5
nara publication number: T627
nara roll number: 512
digital folder number: 005461401
image number: 00469
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head Henry A Machold M 31 New York
wife Anna M Machold F 31 Czechoslovakia
dau Anna M Machold F 6 Connecticut

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name: Fred Machold
titles & terms:
event: Census
event year: 1940
event place: Killingworth Town, Middlesex, Connecticut, United States
gender: Male
age: 34
marital status: Married
race (original):
race (standardized): White
relationship to head of household (original):
relationship to head of household (standardized): Head
birthplace: New York
estimated birth year: 1906
residence in 1935: Same Place
enumeration district number: 4-18
family number: 174
sheet number and letter: 6A
line number: 19
nara publication number: T627
nara roll number: 512
digital folder number: 005461401
image number: 00528
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head Fred Machold M 34 New York
wife Mae Machold F 25 Connecticut
son Martin Machold M 0 Connecticut

Re: Machold help wanted from Germany

tmachold — 2013-01-16 23:05:37Z

Hi Gisela,

This is Ted Machold, my family is from Killingworth and I had an Uncle named Henry.

Re: Amos Parmelee

3uair — 2013-01-07 20:00:57Z

Thanks agian for the information, but nothing Nancy posted refers to my gggrandfather Amos. I know Jane and Zella have death certificates stating their father was born in CT, but this is not correct and the census documents verify that he was born in NY, as was Suzanna. It seems that over time people are not clear where their ancestors were born and I suspect that this is the case with his two daughters. It's a shame there are not more male descendents, but only Horace survived to reproduce and there are no other family members to verify antecedents.
But again, thanks for the help. If you can locate where Amos and Suzanna were married that would be a great help. Regards, Roberta

Re: Amos Parmelee

3uair — 2013-01-07 19:46:14Z

Thanks for the info. However, familysearch.org has a number of errors. Amos two daughters' (Jane and one other) death certificates on the site state their father was born in CT, but this is incorrect. Amos was born in NY as was his wife Susan (or Suzanna). But I cannot find his parents.

Re: Amos Parmelee

3uair — 2013-01-07 19:46:11Z

Re: Amos Parmelee

a119568 — 2013-01-02 13:42:22Z

You may want to take a look at this web site about Amos PARMELEE of Litchfield, CT developed by genealogist Nancy Lanni.

http://www.nancylanni.com/?tag=lucy-seward

Re: Amos Parmelee

a119568 — 2013-01-02 13:31:33Z

Here is death info on Zella Parmalee, another dau. of Amos and Susan. It has Susan's birthplace as White Plains, NY and Amos born in CT.

name: Zella M. Parmelee
titles and terms (original):
death date: 26 Nov 1921
death place: New Lenox, Will, Illinois
gender: Female
marital status:
race or color:
age: 78
estimated birth year: 1843
birth date:
birthplace: Connecticut
father: Amos Parmelee
father's titles and terms (original):
father's birth place: Connecticut
mother: Susan Dayton
mother's titles and terms (original):
mother's birth place: White Planes, New York
occupation: home
residence:
street address:
spouse:
spouse's titles and terms (original):
spouse's birthplace:
burial date: 28 Nov 1921
burial place: Orland
cemetery: Cooper's Cem.
informant:
additional relatives:
digital folder number: 4008165
image number: 1062
film number: 1570850
volume/page/certificate number:

Re: Amos Parmelee

a119568 — 2013-01-02 13:25:08Z

Here is death info on Jane, daughter of Amos & Suzanna from familysearch.org. It cites Amos birthplace as CT and Suzanna as NY.

name: Jane Parmalee
titles and terms (original):
death date: 31 Aug 1935
death place: TROY, WILL, ILLINOIS
gender: Female
marital status:
race or color:
age: 86
estimated birth year: 1849
birth date: 26 Jun 1849
birthplace: ORLAND, COOK, ILLINOIS
father: Amos Parmalee
father's titles and terms (original):
father's birth place: CONNETICUTT
mother: Suzanna Dayton
mother's titles and terms (original):
mother's birth place: NEW YORK
occupation: SCHOOL TEACHER
residence: NEW LENOX, TROY, WILL, ILLINOIS
street address:
spouse:
spouse's titles and terms (original):
spouse's birthplace:
burial date: 03 Sep 1935
burial place: ORLAND, COOK, ILLINOIS
cemetery: COOPER
informant:
additional relatives:
digital folder number: 4008386
image number: 2394
film number: 1765616
volume/page/certificate number: 33660

Re: Amos Parmelee

3uair — 2012-12-26 01:36:05Z

Amos was married to Susan Dayton who was from White Plaines, NY. Amos was born about 1805 (probabaly in NY) and he died in Will Co., IL in 1879. He is buried in Orland where he had his farm. His surviving son, Horace, inherited his farm in Orland IL. Any information re. Amos' parent would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Roberta

Re: Amos Parmelee

3uair — 2012-12-26 01:36:01Z

Re: Josiah Warmsley & Nancy Hazzard

cmah2 — 2012-12-11 16:11:35Z

Hi there,
I just wanted to point out a comment you made regarding Josiah Warmsley. You mentioned the statement below:

Also, "Josiah Warmsley brought his family to Middletown in 1790 and his descendants are still here. They were directly descended from Venture Smith, an African slave who bought his freedom in the mid-1700s and wrote an autobiography of his life's journey."

Josiah, supposedly from African/Native American heritage, was born around 1786, so he was only about 4 years old in 1790 and the names of his parents have not been discovered as of yet; I doubt he brought his family to Middletown.
The Warmsley and the Smith families met in Connecticut where they began to marry; supposedly the first marriage was in 1842 - still checking on that one.
Thanks for your input. Happy Hunting to you.

Re: Josiah Warmsley & Nancy Hazzard

cmah2 — 2012-12-11 15:12:13Z

Hi,
For some reason, my message to you did not go through last night. The Josiah Warmsley I am researching was born in Rhode Island and died in 1871 in Connecticut from old age at 86.
I am sorry that this is not the Josiah you are looking for.
I hope you have success in finding the one you are interested in. Happy Hunting.

Re: Josiah Warmsley & Nancy Hazzard

a119568 — 2012-12-11 12:03:06Z

See prior posts from 2002 about Josiah Warmsley.
The Warmsley in the Alabama calvary was James Warmsley. Josiah Warmsley was born in Rhode Island about 1786, married Nancy Hazzard in 1863 and died in Middletown, CT in 1871. He was black and I doubt any northern blacks fought on the side of the Confederacy during the Civil War.

Also, "Josiah Warmsley brought his family to Middletown in 1790 and his descendants are still here. They were directly descended from Venture Smith, an African slave who bought his freedom in the mid-1700s and wrote an autobiography of his life's journey."

Also,
Re: Swans from Stonington, Ct and Otsego Co.,NY
cmah2 (View posts) Posted: 15 Feb 2007 5:55PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Carla,

Thanks for letting me know about this Saturday. I have the Book "Black Roots", but it would be awesome to meet Mr. Rose in person. My great/great/great grandfather, Josiah Warmsley, is one of the names listed.

Again, thanks for bringing this to my attention. I appreciate it.

Cheryl

Re: Josiah Warmsley & Nancy Hazzard

jamesmgray1 — 2012-12-11 03:26:40Z

I am lookig for information on a Josiah Warmsley who was a member of Warmsleys, Hollwoy’s Company, Alabama Cavalry during the American Civil War and may have been killed in action on the Orange Plank Road during Battle of the Wilderness. I really need to know about his birth, life and death. Any help will beappreciated.
jamesmgray@bigpond.com
www.acwv.info.

Re: Looking for the death of John O'Connor between 1900 and 1910

emd10 — 2012-10-28 23:05:51Z

Thank you very much. I think I will pursue the marriage and death record from the town hall. And yes, sadly my gg grandmother Ellen was living at the Connecticut Valley Hospital in Middlesex county in the year 1900. It is a very sad story as I think she may have been in this hospital for over 30 years. I got the hospital to send me her records from 1873. That is amazing on so many levels. It claims she suffered from melancholy from having too many kids (12 that I have found). I know that would make me want to be hospitalized too.

Re: Looking for the death of John O'Connor between 1900 and 1910

a119568 — 2012-10-28 21:32:51Z

You likely already have this info but I did find John & Ellen O'Connor/O'Conner/O'Connar/Connors family in the 1860/1870/1880 census in Seymour CT as well as widow Annie and children in the 1910 census. Son John appears in the 1860 census as age 2 and in the 1870 census as age 11. He is gone from the family in the 1880 census. Ellen could not read or write and had mental health issues by 1880. Note that both of Annie's daughters were working in the piano factory in 1910. This would indicate the town of Deep River. So if you want to request any vital stats info I would start with the town clerk of Deep River. The name of the town SAYBROOK was changed to DEEP RIVER in 1947. Also if you can find a marriage record for John & Annie it sometimes will list the bride and groom's parents.

Re: Looking for the death of John O'Connor between 1900 and 1910

emd10 — 2012-10-28 19:04:12Z

I know this John in Saybrook died before 1910 because his wife is a widow in the 1910 census. Also, my John O'Connor's parents were both born in Ireland and I have his baptism record from Derby, Connecticut. He was baptized in June 1858. While this John in Saybrook says he was born in 1857, I am interested in him because it's the same month of June. This is the only John O'Connor that comes close to my relative. One other thing. John's mother Ellen was living in Middlesex County in 1900 and then died in 1916 in Seymour. Her obituary is very detailed and lists all of her daughters, but doesn't list her 2 sons John and David. Meaning they died before she did.

Re: Looking for the death of John O'Connor between 1900 and 1910

a119568 — 2012-10-27 18:22:30Z

As you likely know from the 1900 census John J. O'Conner b. Jun 1857 in CT was living in Deep River, CT and operated or worked in a pool hall. Both his parents were born in Ireland. He was living with wife Annie, b. Dec 1868 in England who immigrated to the US in 1875 at age 8. They had been married 12 yrs in 1900. They had 3 children: Mary A. 12, Annie A. 11, William B. 8. In 1900 Deep River was a village in the town of Saybrook. The census taker did not list the street name or number of their residence. Shame on him.
The difficulty is finding him in prior census because of the many spellings of the surname. O'CONNER, O'CONNAR, CONNERS, CONNAR, O'CONNOR, etc., etc. If you know of any of his siblings it would this would aid in the search. Also, if the parents you suggest were not both born in Ireland this may rule them out.
How do you know he died between 1900 & 1910 and where is he buried?

Chatham or Middle Haddam CT marriage records?

ccorey227611 — 2012-10-25 14:47:08Z

Any chance I can get the actual marriage record for 5 May 1813 in Middle Haddam, CT. perhaps there are 2 on this date.

1 for Ariel Dart to Anne Newton
2 for Urial Dart (b 1788) to Anna Rich (b. 1795)

Also any record of a marriage between Mary (nee Kilbourn)Dart (b.1767) and Ichabod Cook after 1810 and before 1820?

thanks for your help

Re: Looking for the death of John O'Connor between 1900 and 1910

TajmajerDeb — 2012-10-25 05:04:05Z

You can order his death record, Go to Old Saybrook's town hall website and look for the town clerk. A form can be download from there with the fee. You have enough info for them to find it for you easily.

Looking for the death of John O'Connor between 1900 and 1910

emd10 — 2012-10-19 19:13:33Z

I am looking for the death record for John O'Connor who died in Saybrook between 1900 and 1910. His wife was Annie and he was born in Connecticut in 1858. I am trying to confirm he is the son of my GG grandparents John and Ellen O'Connor from Seymour, CT. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Re: Buckley E. JOHNSON

Faracik — 2012-09-30 21:38:40Z

Buckley E. Johnson is shown on the census as having a wife
Francis A. Scovill. There are others, but this seems the best fit.

He appears to be buried in the Higganum Cemetery

The Haddam Historical society Haddamhistory.org. Shows that Buckley E. Johnson built the Higganum Feed Store. Which still stands.

Scovill is a well known name in Higganum/Haddam

Re: Captain Thomas Smith and Eurania Wright of Haddam, Middletown, Chatham, and East Hampton, CT.

jadurso — 2012-09-30 18:38:39Z

There are a series of articles that were published in the Catskill Examiner in the late 1800's by a man named Borthwick that are available on-line which discuss the early settlers in Green County NY and their families. I am descended from Cap't. Smith's great ? granddaughter Lucy Smith. my tree is being entered on wiki tree as it evolves.

These articles are available on-line at the following address:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nygreen2/borthwick_papers....

articles 19 and 21 contain information about the Smith family

Re: Buckley E. JOHNSON

kathousel — 2012-09-27 12:39:42Z

I have a guest list for the wedding of Robert Hentry Carlson and Cynthia Johnson Brainard, June 18, 1938, and Mr. and Mrs. Buckley E. Johnson are among the guests.
One Buckley was b. 19 12 and is a manufacturer owning his own business in 1040 Census.

Re: Captain Thomas Smith and Eurania Wright of Haddam, Middletown, Chatham, and East Hampton, CT.

a119568 — 2012-09-27 11:41:47Z

There is a pedigree chart for Bela Smith (child of Capt. Thomas Smith) + Rhoda Merwin as well as the ancestry of Capt. Thomas Smith on familysearch.org.

see: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/S5K6-QHL

Re: Gustaf and Mazie Carlson, 1900's Middletown, CT

kathousel — 2012-09-19 00:21:07Z

I have some info on Mazie O'Conor. I have her brother's birth certificate. Her mother was Ida Jane Harkum dau of James Prescott Harkum and Mary maybe Redman, maybe Wheeler...I have some notes aboutthem . They were from Baltimore, MD. I have a couple pictures of her. Kathie
email me at bogue@coastalnet.com

Re: Simeon Stow/Stowe

samlevy — 2012-09-11 14:07:34Z

Sorry for the delayed response ... would love to compare notes. I must tell you that my notes will be slow in coming (life is getting in my way right now) but I will respond.

What do you have on WIlliam, etc.

Mary
samlevy@aol.com

Re: Simeon Stow/Stowe

MStowe6278 — 2012-09-10 16:18:42Z

okay. (Smiling) You'd have to join Ancestry to send that kind of message. No problem.
What questions do you have?

Re: Simeon Stow/Stowe

annaedla1 — 2012-09-10 16:18:32Z

you can email me direct at annaedla@yahoo.com. I am not sure if we have the same William, but my thinking is if you are researching Stow, Stowe, Stowell, Stough, you are going to have similar names and all we need is a missing piece...;) THank you !

Re: Simeon Stow/Stowe

annaedla1 — 2012-09-10 16:14:42Z

A what? :) I am using the free version and working with the Family Centers...how do I do that?

Re: Simeon Stow/Stowe

MStowe6278 — 2012-09-10 16:10:46Z

Absolutely! I'm on Ancestry, so just send me a convention message and we'll get started.