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Re: Benjamin Williams

Sally Haley  (View posts) Posted: 28 Jan 2003 7:18PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Dave, Sorry I have no information on any of the persons that you mentioned. I have considerable information on the Benjamin Williams family but none of those names are familiar. This family lived at Tull, Grant Co., Ar from about 1820. Sorry I couldn't help you.
Sally

Re: Williams

tinkerok  (View posts) Posted: 7 Jun 2009 1:24PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Williams
Benjamin Williams is buried in the Williams-Tull cem. in the village of Tull, Grant Co. Ark. (This restored cemetery is actually in the distant back yard of Randy & Rhonda Evans' property.) I too am a descendant and helped with arranging for the restoration and placing of placques in this cemetery, which is now nicely fenced, etc. In 1842, Benjamin Williams sold 80 acres, except, he stated, "for five rods square whereon lies my graveyard." (Saline Co. Ark. Deed Bk B, p 333 -- I have copy.) Having found this deed in 1970, I tracked down the almost obliterated cemetery. It was difficult, as the deed's land description detailed 160 acres rather than 80 -- so I had twice the area to search, but was successful. The only "proper" tombstone in the cem. was that of Benjamin Williams' son Lott Green Williams -- and it was a military stone giving no birth or death date, only his name and company in the Union/Civil War. The other graves were marked with native stones/rocks, rolled into place at some time. Some might have had "scratched" letters on them but were no longer legible at all. If you need more detail, please contact me at tinker@suddenlink.net. Gloria J. Reck, Eureka, CA.

Re: Benjamin Williams

tinkerok  (View posts) Posted: 7 Jun 2009 1:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
To: Sally Haley from Gloria J. Reck, Eureka, CA
Yes, the Williams-Tull cemetery, where Lott Green Williams, Benjamin Williams and obviously Sarah Battle Williams (& many others) are buried, lies actually in the distant back yard of Randy & Rhonda Evans, who purchased the land from the Jolly family and built a house. I was part of the group of Lindsey descendants (& thus Williams desc.) who worked to get this cemetery restored. In 1970 I found Benjamin Williams' 1842 deed, wherein he sold 80 acres (although legal description erroneously describes 160 acres), "except," he said, "for five rods square whereon lies my graveyard." (Saline Co. Ark. Deed Bk B, p 333 -- I have certified copy.) Then I walked the 160 acres to find this abandoned, almost obliterated cemetery. I was obviously successful -- in fact, I sorta walked right to it, to the surprise of many. (The rattlesnakes were abundant and noisy that hot summer day, too!) We had a struggle (legally) as for some reason the owner didn't want the cem. restored, despite having ancestors buried there himself. (It was inexplicable to me!) But we won, and the cem. was fenced, little white crosses laid out where only native rocks had been. Yes, the only proper tombstone there was that of Lott Green Williams, and it's a military stone with no birth or death date, only his name and company (Union/Civil War). June Hunt arranged for War of 1812 commemorative plaque, etc. It was a real team effort by many of us cousins. (June Hunt was desc. of Harriet S. Williams who md Burkett Lindsey; I am desc. of Maria Williams who md Rev. Elijah Lindsey and then md. James Wm. Gamble in 1847, after Elijah d 1834.)

Obviously I know a great deal more than is being written here. If interested in further sharing of info, please contact me at tinker@suddenlink.net or at tele 707 497 6682. Would be pleased to exchange info. I've put a good deal on Ancestry.com but not all data by any means. Have 125 pg Lindsey chart as well as Williams, Battle, Haley, etc. charts. These families are all intermarried considerably.

Now, you are correct. Sarah Williams was 2nd wife of Archibald Tull; she d 1858 or 1859, and he md twice more... I interviewed many people in Prattsville, etc. area in 1970 and 1971 trips, including a woman who actually had known Lott Green Williams. She was a young girl and had attended his funeral. (It took me some head shaking to realize I was, in 1970, speaking to a woman who knew a man b 1820 -- she was Mrs. Nora Brumblow. Talked with others, too, who were really old-timers, who were "gone" within 2-5 years thereafter. I reached them just in time. Also have corresp. from 1940s and 1950s sent to my cousins in Okla City by Prattsville people.)

Some of the early confusion was because a source told our family that Eli Lindsey's wife was "Sarah Maria," and this was not correct. There was Sarah md Archibald Tull and Maria who md Elijah Lindsey -- two separate sisters. And then of course Harriet S. Williams md Elijah Lindsey's brother Burkett Lindsey (1808-1894).

Hope this still has a chance to reach you. Please respond if still interested.
Gloria J. Reck

Re: Benjamin Williams

tinkerok  (View posts) Posted: 7 Jun 2009 2:10PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Williams, Lindsey, Haley, Battle
To: Mary Lanier
Mary, read my other responses of today, 6/7/09. I must say that I disagree considerably with Kay Blevins, esp. on those she lists as children of Benjamin and Sarah Battle Williams. Years ago I pleaded with her to reveal her source of this listing and rec'd no reply. Not sure this will reach you, either, after so long. I just ran across this section on Ancestry.com -- can't imagine how I missed it before. Even if some of those Blevins lists ARE indeed children of Benj. Williams, their birth places cannot be accurate, as I have Benj. Williams in a constructed "timeline" and he had left Onslow Co. NC well before 1814.... have him in deeds with bro-in-law, etc. in other NC counties, then in Miss Terr. before he got to Ark. Harriet S. Williams, e.g., was b Oct 1814 in Lawrence Co. Ark., most certainly not in NC. Any of her desc. could tell you that for certain.

In late 1960s, and thru 1970s and into 1980s, about a dozen cousins -- most of them desc. of Harriet S. Williams -- and I had sharing agreement; research assignments, so to speak, and then we'd report findings to all others. June Hunt, Eliz. Heard, Lerlind Hanchey, etc. were among them. I was the youngest and probably none of these others still survive.

I also have copies from Bible of Lott Green Williams, passed on to Addison Brice Williams; it goes far enough back that it gives names of parents of Benj. Williams and Sarah Battle and gives their birth dates; not all of Lott Green's children are listed, but most are...

Contact me if you wish to pursue.

If this reaches you, and you are interested in exchanging data, contact me at email tinker@suddenlink.net or tele 707 497 6682 (Eureka, CA; been here a year; was in Diamond Bar, Ca previous 20 years.)
Gloria J. Reck

Re: Benjamin Williams

gwilliams1697  (View posts) Posted: 14 Jul 2009 5:02PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Williams, Sims, Battle, Jones,
Hi Kay,
I've been researching the Benjamin Williams and related family now for about 10 years. Likely, that we've talked before. However, I've come up with a query for you regards one of his sons, named Harrison. He seems to have married a Mahaly E. Sims in 1871 in Lawrence Co., AK.

We've come up with another member of DNA GROUP 9 (this is the Roots Web DNA study where those with LIKE DNA are grouped together) whose line connects to the name Sims. We can't seem to link them into the mainstream line of Williams', though the connection seems to be via a John Williams who may have married one of the following: POPE, JONES, poss. PAGE or SANDERS.

I have that Benjamin's father was Lewis Williams married to an Ann Mary Norman or Wilkins. Lewis or could be Louis dioed in Onslow Co., NC where Ben lived. His father was Theophilus Williams/wife Hester Busby. This Theophilus, then, is the son of the John Williams I mention above.

I note that your connection is to Harrison's brother Lott Green, both sons of Benjamin Wililams and Sarah Sally Battle. Since these two were born so close together, I was hoping, perhaps, that you might know more about him.

I have Harrison born in 1817, married Mahaly E. Sims in 1871. It looks like Lott Green Williams, who married Mary Cynthia JONES in 1840 may have moved to Arkansas as well. I have Lott born 1820 and died in Grant Co., AK in abt 1895. I note that Sally Koestler ( a geneaologist) links to this line through Lott's son Archibald warren Williams.

If you can enlighten me a bit aboaut Harrison, Lott's brother, please write me directly at: gwilliams@ntin.net

I note that another child of Benjamin was Mariah who married secondly to James William Gamble. That marriage also took place in Saline Co. (or Grant), AK. So it is obvious that some of these children mirgrated to the same place in AK.

THANKS.
Gerri

Re: Benjamin Williams

tinkerok  (View posts) Posted: 15 Oct 2009 4:15AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Williams, Battle, Lindsey, Haley, Baird
To Sally Haley:
Sally, if you are still researching, please respond to me. I am desc. of Benjamin Williams and Sarah Battle thru their dau Maria Williams b 1797, who md Rev. Elijah Lindsey (1797-1834). Additionally, am Haley descendant, as Burkett Battle Lindsey (son of Rev Elijah Lindsey & Maria Williams) md 1842 Saline co. Ark. to Martha Ann Margaret Haley (1825-1908), dau of Robert Haley (1791 NC - 1831 Pulaski Co. Ark.) & Mary Patterson (Baird) Haley (1800 GA - 1884 Grant Co. Ark).

I have copies of family section of Bible of Lott Green Williams, giving much family data. Believe I can clarify some records for you.
Gloria Reck Eureka, CA (tinker@suddenlink.net)

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