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obit lookups - Amy & Thure SWANSON/SWENSON

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Re: obit lookups - Amy & Thure SWANSON/SWENSON

Posted: 1346209797000
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I don't know what additional you may have on Amy outside of Alaska. I did present my research. That information is important to identify to get the full picture on the person you seek. You identified her as born circa 1886; but the two census in Alaska Territory of 1930 and 1940 show considerable difference in age. There were many Amy Hyde found, enough to indicate the two women were different ones. "IF" Amy was born in 1885/86, she would have been pretty young to have married in 1896. Thomas Bethel died in 1911 in WA State, there son stayed in the NW to Oregon, dau stayed in Spokane. I could not find a marriage for Amy and Thure in WA; but many went to Idaho for that (no waiting period). The period of 1911 to 1930 is important to this issue, you may have the information to confirm the Swanson connection.

The 1940 Census of Petersburg District, Alaska Territory (AT)
Amy B. Swenson, age 64(1875/1876), born in Wisconsin, widow

The 1930 Census of Ketchikan, Alaska Territory (AT)
Thure Swanson, 44, born Sweden, immigrated 1904/naturalized, barber/own shop
Amy, 44(1885/1886), born in WI.
--Normally, in Sweden, the patronymic last name (son of Swan) would be with an "O", normally in Norway the "E" was used...but not always. Due to border and kingdom changes, someone born in Sweden could have been born in Norway. Possibly Sven originally versus Swan (Angelicanized/Americanized).
--Swedish emigration records:
Thure Svensson, born abt 1882 from Stockholm, enroute to W. Superior, WI, departed 19 may 1902. "IF" this is the correct person, he likely would have crossed the Atlantic to Canada.
Thure Svensson, born abt 1885, from Nosaby Skåne Län, to New York, departed April 1906.
Thure Svensson, born about 1890, to Boston, 1906.

There is a Thure Swanson, born in New York, served in World War I, died 9/27/1939, buried in Petersburg, but this person does not appear to be the correct person:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=sw...;
--BUT, if you suspect he might be correct, I'd contact the cemetery for any information.
--There is also a probate record for this person:
http://www.archives.state.ak.us/pdfs/collection_guides/proba...
this would identify any family members, his age, etc.
found at: http://archives.alaska.gov/for_researchers/for_researchers.h... This will identify how to obtain the record.

Amy, from your other postings, was found to be a sibling of Harry Hyde, born Feb 1900.
The 1900 Census of Almena, Barron County, WI
Henry Hyde, born Vermont Jan 1840 (actually 1832 ?)
Fred(?), born WI May 1855, mother of 5/5 living.
Edna, Mar 1883, WI
Erwin, Apr 1887
Deen(as written), Jan 1889
Baby (Harry) Feb 1900.
--This family does not show Amy, but she was recognized as a sibling to Harry; and, the mother is shown having 5 children/all living.

The 1880 Census of Stanford, Barron County, WI
Henry L Hyde, age 48, a boarder living in the home of Charles Beland.
--If this is the correct person, he doesn't appear to be married. If not, then was Amy actually born circa 1886 versus the Amy Swanson born about 1875/1876 as found in the 1940 census.

The 1880 Census for Oasis, WI
Amy Hyde, age 12, dau of Thomas and Sarah.
--No other Amy Hyde in the 1880 Census that was born in Wisconsin (two in Missouri [same person twice], one each Ohio, PA and New Hampshire.
--One Stella Hyde, born 1857 in WI.

The 1900 Census of Nebagamin, Douglas County, Wisconsin
Thomas Bethel, born January 1868 in Kentucky
Amey (as written/transcribed), bon May 1877 in Wisconsin to father born in Vermont, mother in Wisconsin, married five years (1894/1895), mother of two, both living.
Esther, born Oct 1896 in Minnesota
Leslie, son, born Oct 1897.
--Just above them is the family of August Swanson, born Aug 1862 in Sweden, probably a coincidence.

The 1910 Census of Wilson Creek, Grant County, WA
Thomas 42, Merchant; Amy 33(1876/1877), Esther 13, Leslie, 12.

The WA State Digital Archives show Thomas E Bethel died 1911 in Wilson Creek, Grant County.
It shows the marriage certificate of Esther Bethel's marriage to Jacob Ehrgott on 24 July 1926 in Spokane. Esther confirmed as dau of Thomas Bethel and Annie Hyde. The 1930 Census finds them still in Spokane. Leslie served in WWI and moved to Portland, Oregon.

Ron Bestrom
Tacoma, WA
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