Autauga - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: ALEXANDER FAMILY of AUTAUGA COUNTY

melaniegibbs07 — 2013-05-21 02:19:35Z

I would like to contact a descendant of Martha A. R. Hill who married John Lofton Alexander. A fellow Hill researcher has published a Hill family history of the Thomas and Rebecca Rogers Hill family that gives detailed accounts of this family. Would like to talk with an Alexander descendant who is related to Martha Hill Alexander, the first wife of John Lofton Alexander. Who has the portrait of Martha and can I get a good photo copy of it? Fallonfox@aol.com

ALDRIDGE, ALABAMA

ELLinSpain — 2013-05-16 08:58:46Z

WW1
Name: Gains Clarence Aldridge
County: Autauga
State: Alabama
Birth Date: 17 Apr 1900
Race: White

Name: Gains Clarence Aldridge
Birth Date: 17 Apr 1900
Age at Death: 43
Death Date: 20 Aug 1943
Burial Place:
West Hill Cemetery
Sherman
Grayson County
Texas
WITH WIFE CALLIE NORRIS ALDRIDGE 1898-1978

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WW1
Name: William Lee Aldridge
City: Atlanta
County: Fulton
State: Georgia
Birthplace: Alabama,United States of America
Birth Date: 21 Jun 1896

Name: William L Aldridge
Death Date: 6 Dec 1951
County of Death: Fulton
Gender: M (Male)
Race: White
Age: 54 Years
County of Residence: DeKalb
Certificate: 28056

Re: ALFRED. J. ALDRIDGE (1866-1935)'s meat market

ELLinSpain — 2013-05-16 08:41:22Z

The son William who is with him on the 1910 census (Alfred states no occupation) has shown occupation as "Meat Market" VIZ

Name: William L Tatum
Age in 1910: 24
Birth Year: abt 1886
[1886]
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1910: Precinct 1, Autauga, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Maggie M Tatum
Father's Birthplace: Alabama
Mother's Birthplace: Alabama
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Name: Maggie M Tatum
[Aldridge]
Age in 1910: 18
Birth Year: abt 1892
[1892]
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1910: Precinct 1, Autauga, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: William L Tatum
Father's Name: Alfred Aldridge
Father's Birthplace: Alabama
Mother's Birthplace: Alabama
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Name: Marion A Tatum
Age in 1910: 0
[2/12]
Birth Year: abt 1910
[1910]
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1910: Precinct 1, Autauga, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
+
Name: Alfred Aldridge
Age in 1910: 46
Birth Year: abt 1864
[1864]
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1910: Precinct 1, Autauga, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Father-in-law
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Alabama
Mother's Birthplace: Alabama
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Name: Exa Aldridge
Age in 1910: 15
Birth Year: abt 1895
[1895]
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1910: Precinct 1, Autauga, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
+
Name: William Aldridge
Age in 1910: 13
Birth Year: abt 1897
[1897]
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1910: Precinct 1, Autauga, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
+
Name: Clarence Aldridge
Age in 1910: 11
Birth Year: abt 1899
[1899]
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1910: Precinct 1, Autauga, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
+
Name: Nellie Aldridge
Age in 1910: 8
Birth Year: abt 1902
[1902]
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1910: Precinct 1, Autauga, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
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Name: Flosie Aldridge
Age in 1910: 5
Birth Year: abt 1905
[1905]
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1910: Precinct 1, Autauga, Alabama
Race: White
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
[Son]
Marital Status: Single

Arthur is with daughter Nell Webb on the 1930 census

1900
Name: A J Aldridge
A FARMER
Age: 37
Birth Date: Dec 1862
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1900: Clanton, Chilton, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Bettie Aldridge
Marriage Year: 1887
Years Married: 13
Father's Birthplace: Alabama
Mother's Birthplace: Alabama
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Name: Bettie Aldridge
Age: 29
Birth Date: Nov 1870
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1900: Clanton, Chilton, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: A J Aldridge
Marriage Year: 1887
Years Married: 13
Father's Birthplace: Alabama
Mother's Birthplace: Alabama
Mother: number of living children: 5
Mother: How many children: 7
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Name: Mack R Aldridge
Age: 10
Birth Date: Aug 1889
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1900: Clanton, Chilton, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
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Name: Maggie M Aldridge
Age: 8
Birth Date: Sep 1891
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1900: Clanton, Chilton, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
+
Name: Exer B Aldridge
Age: 6
Birth Date: Dec 1893
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1900: Clanton, Chilton, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
+
Name: Willie L Aldridge
Age: 3
Birth Date: Jul 1896
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1900: Clanton, Chilton, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
+
Name: Gainy C Aldridge
Age: 1
Birth Date: Apr 1899
Birthplace: Alabama
Home in 1900: Clanton, Chilton, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son

Name: Maggie Mae Aldridge Tatum
Birth Date: abt 1891
Death Date: 12 Oct 1972
Death Place: Prattville, Autauga, Alabama
Death Age: 81
Gender: Female
Father Name: Alford Aldridge
Mother Name: Vina Elizabeth Edwards
FHL Film Number: 2114478

Re: Thomas W Nelson, b. 1812 Georgia, m. Nelly Johnson 19 Feb 1832 Autauga

Chorton — 2013-05-15 18:14:22Z

There are divorce books in the courthouse but the last time I checked it is very difficult to locate the correct book re date, etc. These are not "probate" books.
Go to http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~alautaug/ and you will find many references to your Nelsons in "Searchable Autauga County Records".
I suggest you check those you are interested in and contact the Alabama Dept. of Archives and History for their research information.

Re: A. J. ALDRIDGE (1866-1935)'s meat market

CarolMoody1117 — 2013-05-15 04:13:52Z

Liberty Baptist Church is located 2315 US Hwy 31, Deatsville, AL 36022, Ph: 334-365-9720

Lat: 32° 36' 48"N, Lon: 86° 28' 49"W
T19N R16E Sec 20

The cemetery is on 31 North, beside CR 61 in North Autauga County AL.

A. J. was born in a part of Autauga County which later became Baker County, and then changed to Chilton. I do not know the exact location.

He married Bettie Mathews first, and second Katherine Green Moore.

I don't know the answer your other questions.

Adam Parker Jr. 1936-2013

Contribution — 2013-05-14 14:45:18Z

YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio – Services will be Thursday, May 16, 2013, at the Community Church of God for Mr. Adam Parker Jr., 76, who entered eternal rest on Friday, May 10, 2013, at his home with his family surrounding him.

Adam Parker Jr., also known as Hiawatha, was born on May 12, 1936, in Autaugaville, Alabama, the son of Adam and Eva Moten-Parker.

He graduated from Campbell Memorial High School.

In 1954, Adam married Frances Davis in Youngstown, Ohio and they shared 59 wonderful years of matrimony.

After graduating from high school, Adam was employed at Youngstown Sheet and Tube Campbell Works.

He then enlisted in the Army, where he was a drill sergeant in the 11th Airborne Battalion and served as a paratrooper. He also served during the Korean conflict.

After returning form the service, he resumed his employment at Sheet and Tube.
He then began working at GATX as a welder-fitter.
During this period, Adam also owned his own hauling business. Adam later went on to work as a truck driver for Boardman Supply, until his retirement in 1998.

Adam was a faithful member of the Community Church of God, formerly known as the Himrod Church of God. He served as chairman of the Trustee Board, church treasurer, Deaconate Board member, choir member, Altar worker, Sunday school teacher, youth leader, and part of the bus ministry.

Adam leaves to forever cherish his memory, his wife, Frances Parker; three sons, Gregory (Connie) of Polson, Montana, Dwight Senior (Beverly) of Liberty, Ohio, and Darren (Mary) of Denton, Texas; two daughters, Lisa of Boardman, Ohio and Adrienne (Gary) of Columbus, OH; 11 grandchildren; and 15 great-grandchildren.

He also leaves his brother-in-law, Michael Randle of Youngstown, Ohio and uncle, K.C. Moten (Trula) of Detroit.

He was preceded in death by his parents, Adam and Eva Parker and three sisters, British Lee Parker. Moselle Higgins and Ora Hughes.

Friends may call Thursday, May 16, 2013, from 10 to 11 a.m. at the church.

Arrangements entrusted to the L.E. Black, Phillips & Holden Funeral Home, Youngstown, Ohio

http://www.vindy.com/news/tributes/2013/may/14/adam-parker-j...

Veteran
Mahoning
Atauga

Thomas W Nelson, b. 1812 Georgia, m. Nelly Johnson 19 Feb 1832 Autauga

chriskay_1 — 2013-05-11 05:56:06Z

I am looking for information about Thomas W Nelson, b. 1812 Georgia, who married Nelly Johnson 19 Feb 1832 in Autauga Alabama. He is the son of Daniel Nelson (listed in his will)and Joanna (possibly) Townsend.

He is in the 1850 census with Ellender Nelson. There is some confusion about his age as it is smudged. It says he was born in Georgia, Ellender born in North Carolina. Children listed are Robert 17; William 15; John 14; Joanna 12; Alexander 9; and Alford 7.

But in the 1860 census Nelly is living with son Robert and his wife Nancy Johnson. Thomas W Nelson is living in Holmes, Florida with a new wife (?) Martha (b. 1826 Alabama); Emily (b. 1853 Alabama) and Mary T (b. 1859 Florida). Next door is Clara Davis (who also has children with the last name Brooks - some say it should be Westbrooks).

The 1870 census has Thomas living in Geneva Alabama with yet another wife, the Clara Davis who lived next door in Florida: Clara Nelson, b. 1826 South Carolina; Mary T (b. 1859); Susan E (b. 1851); and these Davis chldren: James E (b. 1854); Reuben (b. 1852); Margaret (b. 1856).

Thomas W Nelson is listed in his father's estate papers as heir, living in Geneva Alabama.

Are there any divorce records in Autauga between 1850 - 1852?

Re: butler-motley-nunn families

dmt75 — 2013-05-09 05:44:05Z

David, I just came across your message. I can make a connection on the Motley side. Mary Motley married Charlie Butler. They had Charlie, Jr. Mary Motley is the daughter of Sue Motley. My great grandfather is John Motley, who is Sue Motley son. I think there were two other brothers, Hilliard and Fletcher. I have done some research on the Butler-Motley connection. Charlie Butler, Jr. died around 1984 here in Prattville. I am also in direct contact with Charlie, Jr's family who lives here in Prattville. Please respond so we can share information.

Re: Moses BOWMAN, Sr., d. ca. 1864-1866 Autauga Co., GA

gailmsc — 2013-05-05 15:36:47Z

I have a Moses Bowman in my family tree. I also have Civil War letters that mention his death but don't give an exact date. His daughter, Martha Patsy Bowman, married William M. Smith. Their son, William L. Smith, was in the Civil War. He was my great-grandfather.

Re: William Cissaro Booth, ALABAMA > ARK

chriskay_1 — 2013-05-04 15:43:50Z

Thanks for posting that. William Booth is the possible brother of my husband's ggg Grandfather John Booth, of Autauga Alabama.

Re: Daniel Nelson, b. 1781 Georgia; d. aft 1848 Autauga Alabama

chriskay_1 — 2013-05-04 15:41:17Z

Thanks. I believe I may have found an additional daughter of Daniel Nelson. Martha E J Wilson, listed in the earlier will and in the later estate papers as Martha Harris, wife of Joseph W Harris of Shelby, is possibly the daughter of Jane Nelson and Henry H Wilson who married in Autauga in 1839. Her parents must have died before the first will, so that is why she is mentioned in the will along with her uncles and aunts.

At least that is my current theory! Does that sound reasonable to anyone else?

William Cissaro Booth, ALABAMA > ARK

ELLinSpain — 2013-05-01 08:05:02Z

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=BO...;

Re: Correction: William Cissaro Booth

charleshiggs — 2013-04-30 01:49:19Z

South Carolina

Re: Daniel Nelson, b. 1781 Georgia; d. aft 1848 Autauga Alabama

Chorton — 2013-04-29 19:15:13Z

Under links in the Autauga Gen Society web page the marriage index shows the following:
NELSON, THOMAS B. m. AHERN, ALICE, 24 NOV 1887, Bk8, p310.
NELSON, THOMAS W. m.JOHNSON, NELLY, 19 FEB 1832, Bk3, p337.

I do not have any personal knowledge of this family.
C. Horton

Daniel Nelson, b. 1781 Georgia; d. aft 1848 Autauga Alabama

chriskay_1 — 2013-04-29 17:07:49Z

I am looking for information about Daniel Nelson, m. Joanna. His will

(1848, Autauga) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-23160-34801-72...

lists these heirs: wife Joanna; son Thomas Nelson; Ghastey Smith; Hardy Nelson; Mary Wallace; Andrew J Nelson; Elizabeth Nelson and Martha E J Wilson.

A probate record is recorded in Chilton Alabama

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-23168-28452-34...

lists these heirs:

Thomas Nelson, residing in Geneva Alabama
Jack Nelson, residing in Mansfield Louisiana
Letha Jane Wallace, residing in Pontock(?) Co, Mississippi
William Hardy Wallace, residing in Pontock Co Mississippi
Monroe Wallace, residing in Pontock Co, Mississippi
Martha Harris, wife of J W Harris, residing in Shelby, AL
Jane and John Nelson, residing in Autauga Alabama
Martha Askins, wife of Alphonso Askins, . . .Chilton, AL
Ghasty Wilson, wife of Francis Wilson. . . Chilton, AL
Debora Elizabeth and Boling Nelson,. . . Chilton, AL
Cary Nelson. . . Chilton

My question involves Thomas Nelson. Is this the Thomas Nelson, Autauga, who married Nelly Johnson 1832? They are probably the parents of Robert H Nelson, William D Nelson, John Hardy Nelson, Joanna Nelson, Alford Nelson, and Alexander Nelson. They show up in the 1850 Autauga census, but there is some question about Thomas' age. It is smudged. Nelly is living with son Robert and his family in 1860 in Autauga.

I found the Thomas Nelson who lives in Geneva Alabama and it appears he also lived at one time (1860 census) in Florida with a different wife and children.

Does anyone know anything about this family? Thanks for your help.

Need Research Help in Autauga County?

wwlsarandoph — 2013-04-10 16:32:17Z

Anyone needing research help with any Autauga County Family. Please contact me direct at: layres@centurylink.net for assistants.

Thank You
Linda S. Ayres

Ala. Genealogical Society Spring Seminar Apr 20 - fee correction

Chorton — 2013-03-30 14:33:18Z

The Alabama Genealogical Society Spring Seminar will be held on Saturday, April 20, 8:30 a.m. - 3:15 p.m. at Samford University in Birmingham in the Beeson Business Building.

The seminar title is Pathways to the Past: How to Locate Original Records, Onsite and Online.
Dorothy W. Potter will speak on "Sources and Research Methods for the Old South". Elizabeth C. Wells will speak on "Online Resources: College/University, Library of Congress and More". Yvonne Crumpler's topic is "Searching NARA's Web Site" and "Documenting/Citing Sources".

The seminar fee is $40 for non-members and $35 for members.
Lunch is "on your own" in the Samford Dining Hall. For additional information please go to http://www.algensoc.org/main/seminars.html or e-mail Yvonne Crumpler at ags-seminar@algensoc.org

Alabama Genealogical Society Seminar Sat. April 20, Birmingham

Chorton — 2013-03-27 18:58:20Z

The Alabama Genealogical Society Spring Seminar will be held on Saturday, April 20, 8:30 a.m. - 3:15 p.m. at Samford University in Birmingham in the Beeson Business Building.

The seminar title is Pathways to the Past: How to Locate Original Records, Onsite and Online.
Dorothy W. Potter will speak on "Sources and Research Methods for the Old South". Elizabeth C. Wells will speak on "Online Resources: College/University, Library of Congress and More". Yvonne Crumpler's topic is "Searching NARA's Web Site" and "Documenting/Citing Sources".

The seminar fee is $35 for non-members and $30 for members.
Lunch is "on your own" in the Samford Dining Hall. For additional information please go to http://www.algensoc.org/main/seminars.html or e-mail Yvonne Crumpler at ags-seminar@algensoc.org

Re: Griffis Family

JohnBrown881 — 2013-03-18 20:04:42Z

Beth Gay is, or was, the librarian of the Ellen Payne Odom Library in Moultrie, GA. They specialize in Scottish ancestry. Electronic Scotland is connected to the library.

Re: Griffis Family

Sidetrackedresearcher — 2013-03-18 12:09:43Z

Hi Lisa,

Sorry but I have no idea how to contact her. I am not the Beth Gay that you are seeking.

Re: Griffis Family

LisaHale12 — 2013-03-18 06:33:46Z

I'm trying to reach a BETH GAY who placed information on electricscotland.com about The McDONALD Family of Madison County, Florida. I descend from Rachel McDonald, and would like to have a copy of the Bible record mentioned in her post there. I would also like to know where the name of "MARY" came from for Rachel's mother. If anyone knows how to contact her, please let me know.

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

dianechenault — 2013-02-27 23:56:25Z

Thank you this may help. I have thought she was related, but still don't know how.

I appreciate you sending this to me.

Diane

Leroy A. Hall-6th Alabama, CSA

marytmorris — 2013-02-19 19:37:42Z

I have a hand-written list of deaths in the Berryville, VA Civil War-era hospital. One is for L.A. Hall, Co. G, 6th Ala, who died of brain congestion on 15 Jun 1863. His effects: $6.00 & a letter, were sent by Dr. Kownslar to W. Hall in Autuagaville, AL. Fro what little I can find, this was Leroy A. Hall who was born c1815. Hope this will help someone to know where he died. I have not checked in the Confederate Cemetery in Winchester, VA to see ifd his body was moved there after the war. If this connects with anyone, let me know. This roster will be published by the Clarke Co. Hist. Assoc. next year. Mary Morris, Archivist-archives@clarkehistory.org

PARRISH- Larson/Lassiter

bjh1225 — 2013-02-18 01:19:06Z

William S.Parrish married Louisa H or L Larson on 16 Jan 1848 in Autauga Co. Supposedly there was a marriage bond per records on Ancestry.com. Her family listed her as being Louise Lassiter/Lassley on some death records. She was supposedly b in 1824 NC. There were several Lassiter families in Autauga Co before 1850 but I cannot find a marriage to a Larson.

Can anyone provide leads to the parents of William S. Parrish and Louisa Lassiter?

Thanks,

Re: Autauga Co. deed books

Chorton — 2013-01-29 18:50:54Z

I have replied to her directly.

Re: Autauga Co. deed books

MarthaSullivanSmith — 2013-01-28 19:15:01Z

Hi, just checking on the info. you wrote that you found and were going to post to me. I've never used this type of service before, is there a fee? I'll be glad to pay it.

Thanks,
Martha

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will - George Blackwell's will

LionheartCourage — 2013-01-22 02:35:53Z

The Elizabeth Blackwell who married Abraham Chancellor was the daughter of Thoroughgood/Thorogood Blackwell of Autuaga County, AL. This is proven in the Orphan Court Records where the children of Thoroughgood Blackwell were named along with their spouses. There was a Thoroughgood Blackwell who contested Anne (wife of George Blackwell) as the executor of George Blackwell's will in Edgecombe County, NC c. April 1767. I suspect he was a brother of that George Blackwell. I have a copy of this will and yes Thoroughgood Blackwell is not mentioned but I do not believe that a young child age 11 or 12 would have been left out of his father's will. All the census records that I have found regarding Thoroughgood Blackwell show a birth date of no earlier than 1754. I do not believe him to be a son of the elder George Blackwell.

Orphans Court Minutes 1823 - 1842,Autauga County, Alabama

Special Orphans Court 21 May 1832
At this day came Thomas Smith and offered a paper purporting to be the Last Will and Testament of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased who died in this county and whose place of residence was in the same,at the time of his death,for probate. It is therefore ordered by the court that citations issue to the sheriff commanding him to summon Jesse Cook and his wife Eleanor, Abraham Chancellor and his wife Elizabeth, Abijah Shumake and his wife Dorcas, and Sarah Blackwell. Elizabeth Cook and Pheby Cook the heirs and next of kin of the deceased to appear at the Regular time of the Orphans Court for said county to be held on the fourth Monday in June next to show cause why the said instrument should not be admitted to probate. It further appearing to the court that John Phillips and Pheby his wife are of next of kin of the deceased and that they do not live in the jurisdiction of this court. It is further ordered that publication be made in a paper called the Planters Gazette published in the town of Montgomery for two weeks commanding them to appear at the same time and place. It is further ordered that any party interested may procure subpoenas to compel the attendance of witnesses at the said time.

Regular Orphans Court 25 June 1832
And now at this time came Thomas Smith and presented a paper purporting to be a Will of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased and offered proof that the same was the Last Will and Testament of the said Blackwell. It appearing to the satisfaction of the court that the publication required in the order of the last term on this case was duly made in the Planters Gazette for John Phillips and Pheby his wife to appear at this term of this court and it further appearing that citations were not served upon Dorcas and Mary (?) Blackwell, it is therefore ordered by the court that an (illegible) citations issue commanding them to appear at the Regular term of the Orphans Court to be held the fourth Monday in July next and the cause is continued till that day. It is further ordered that citations issue commanding the sherfii to summon Moses (?) Chancellor and Elizabeth his wife, Abijah Shumake and Dorcas his wife, Jesse Cook and Eleanor his wife, Elizabeth Cook and Pheby Cook to appear on the next regular term of the Orphans Court to be held on the fourth Monday in July next, to show why the said Will should not be admitted to probate. And it is further appearing that the Estate is in danger of being injured for the want of a proper person to take charge thereof. It is further ordered by the court that Thomas Smith be appointed Administrator thereof, until the validity of the said Will be determined, and he having given Bond and Security according to law and taken the oath prescribed by law. It is ordered that letters be issued to him. Ordered that Bond of Thomas Smith as Temporary Administrator an upon the Estate of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased the sum of Fifteen Thousand Dollars with Benjamin Motley, Etheridge Rogers, and J.D. Gop be received and recorded.

Regular Orphans Court 23 July 1832
And now at this day comes the sheriff of ( illegible, maybe a whole sentence illegible here, document torn ) in summons of the order of said court, excuted upon the parties therein mentioned as by answering to the returns which many fully affects. And then came Abram Chancellor and his wife Elizabeth, Jesse Cook and Eleanor his wife and Abijah Shumake and Dorcas his wife who entered their caveat to the admission of the Will of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased and certain issue having been joined between the parties, and a jury having been empowered (?) by order of the court from among the bystanders and duly sworn to try the issue joined between the parties upon their consisting of William Burt foreman of the same, and eleven others upon their oath do say that the said Will was duly excuted according to law, that the said Thoroughgood Blackwell at the time of the excution thereof was of sound mind and of disposing memory and that he was not under undue influence of any person. Where upon it is considered by the court here that the said Last Will and Testament be admitted to probate and that letters be ( illegible) issue to Thomas Smith upon giving Bond and Security according to law and complying with the other requisites of the law. This day came Thomas Smith and presented his Bond as Executor of the Estate of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased, upon the sum of Ten Thousand Dollars with B.T. Livingston and James Goodson as Securities. Ordered that the same be received and recorded. Ordered that the Executor of the Estate of Thoroughgood Blackwell make out a full and complete Inventory of said Estate. Ordered that said Executor make a return of said Inventory so made as aforesaid to this court within three months. Ordered that Moses Grier, James Fleming, William Whitstone, Benjamin Motley and Joseph Roest be appointed appraisers of the Estate of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased. Ordered that said Executor make a return of the appraisement to this court within three months. Ordered that sais Executor have leave to sell any part of the personal property he may think proper. Ordered that said Executor make return of said sale in the months. This day came Thomas Smith Special Administrator upon the Estae of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased and presented an Inventory of said Estate except the Hogs and Cattle, which are not all included. Ordered that the same be received and recorded.

Regular Orphans Court 25 Sept 1832
Ordered by the court that notice be given by publication in the Planters Gazette to John Phillips and Pheby his wife to be and appear at a regular Orphans Court to be held in and for the said county on the fourth Monday in November next and show cause if any why the Real Estate belonging to the Estate of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased should not be sold. This day came Thomas Smith and presented his petition as Executor of the Will of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased praying for leave to sell the Real Estate of said Estate. It is therefore ordered that citations issue to all the legaltees of siad Estate to come forward at the next term of this court and show cause if any why said Real Estate should not be sold.

Regular Orphans Court 22 October 1832
Whereas Elizabeth Cook infant heir of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased in right of her mother Ann Cook deceased, being over the age of fourteen years this day came in open court and made choice of William Cook as her Guardian it is therefore Ordered that William Cook be appointed Guardian of Elizabeth Cook as aforesaid. Ordered that letters of Guardian issue to William Cook Guardian of Elizabeth Cook infant heir as aforesaid. ( Note: Pheby Cook this same day makes same choice and the procedure is the same) Ordered that the Bond of William Cook, Guardian of Elizabeth Cook in the sum of One Thousand Dollars with Jesse Cook and Abijah Shumake as Securities be received and recorded. ( Note: Again, the same procedure in Bond and Security for Pheby Cook by William Cook ) This day came Sarah Blackwell and applied for letters of Guardianship for Elizabeth Blackwell an infant heir of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased in right of her father George Blackwell deceased. Ordered that the same isse to the said Sarah Blackwell. Sarah Blackwell presented her Bond as Guardian of Elizabeth Blackwell with William Booth, Charles Booth, and John Booth as Securities in the sum of One Thousand Dollars. Ordered that the same be received and recorded. ( Note: Sarah (Jowers) Blackwell and George Blackwell (Thoroughgoods Son) had 5 children and she had to apply for Guardianship on each of them and the same procedure, bonds and securities as above, applies to the following four children.) Nancy Blackwell, James Wilkerson Blackwell, Matilda Blackwell and Frances Blackwell. Ordered that Charles Booth, Abraham Chancellor, and Abijah Shumake be appointed commissioners to sell West 1/2 of the NW 1/4 of Section 28, Township 18N, Range 15E. The West 1/2 of the SW 1/4 of Section 28, Township 18N, Range 15E. The East 1/2 of the NE 1/4 of Section 29, Township 18N, Range 15E. The East 1/2 of the SW 1/4 of Section 29, Township 18N, Range 15E, and the West 1/2 of the SE 1/4 of Section 29, Township 18N, Range 15E., it being the Real Estate of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased. The said commissioners to give notice required by law in such cases and a credit until the purchases giving sales and good security and that they make due return thereof to this court on the Monday. Ordered that the Executor of the Estate of Thoroughgood Blackwell have leave to sell the Cotton belonging to said Estate at private sale. Ordered that said Executor make a report of the said sale to this court within three months.

Regular Orphans Court 26 November 1832
This day came Thomas Smith Executor of the Will of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased and returned the Bill of Appraisement of said Estate. Ordered that the same be received and recorded. This day came Thomas Smith Executor of the Will of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased and made a report of the sales of said Estate. Ordered that the same be received and recorded. This day came said Executor and made an addition report of the sales of said Estate. Ordered that the same be received and recorded.

Regular Orphans Court 28 January 1833
The State of Alabama, Autauga County. We the undersigned commissioners appointed by the Hon. Judge of this Orphans Court for said county to sell the real estate of Thoroughgood Blackwell make the following report that we proceeded to sell the west half of the northwest quarter and the west half of the southwest quarter of section 28, township 18, range 15 and the east half of the of the northeast quarter and the southeast quarter of section 29, township 18, range 15. Containing four hundred acres more or less to the highest bidder on a credit until the first day of January 1834. And Charles Booth and William Booth was the highest and last bidders and became the purchasers thereof for the sum of Twelve Hundred and Ninety Five Dollars, the 28 day of December 1832. Sworn to and suscribed before me this 17 day of January 1833, Henly Brown. Commissioners: Charles Booth, A.Chancellor, Abijah Shumake. Ordered that said Charles Booth, A.Chancellor and Abijah Shumake proceed to make a good and sufficient title to the said Land to the said Charles Booth and William Booth.

Special Orphans Court 16 April 1833
Ordered that the list of sales of the Estate of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased be received and recorded. Ordered that the accounts of notes and accounts of the Estate of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased be received and recorded. Ordered that the account of the sales of the Cotton belonging to said Estate be received and recorded.
Regular Orphans Court 24 June 1833
This day came Charles Booth and William Booth, two of the Securities for Sarah Blackwell Guardian of Elizabeth Blackwell, Ann Blackwell, James W. Blackwell, Matilda Blackwell, and Frances Blackwell minor heirs of George Blackwell deceased and made application to this court for a release from further liability on theirs Bonds as such securities. It is therefore Ordered by the court that citation issue to said Sarah Blackwell Guardian as aforesaid to be and appear at a regular Orphans Court to be held in and for said county at the palce of holding the same on the fourth Monday of (blank) next and give further security otherwise she will be discharged from said Guardianship.

Regular Orphans Court 26 August 1833
Ordered that Sarah Blackwell be discharged as Guardian of Elizabeth Blackwell, Nancy Ann Blackwell, James W. Blackwell, Matilda Blackwell, Frances Blackwell minor heirs of George Blackwell deceased.

Special Orphans Court 15 October 1833
This day came Thomas Smith Administrator of the Estate of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased and made application to this court for final settlement of sais Estate. It is therefore ordered that forty days notice be given by publication in the Montgomery Advertizer and the Planters Gazette for all persons interested to be and appear at a regular Orphans Court to be held in and for the said county on the fourth Monday in November next to show cause if any they can, why said final settlement should not be made.

Special Orphans Court 31 March 1834
On application of Thomas Smith, Executor of the Last Will and Testament of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased, for final settlement of the Estate of said deceased. ( Note: Here the procedure is the same as above for forty days notice being given.)

Regular Orphans Court 26 May 1834
Ordered that the report and final settlement of the Estate of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased, made this day by the Executor of the said deceased be received and recorded. And it appearing to the court from said report and final settlement that there is a balance of the said Estate in the hands of the Executor amounting to the sum of Six Thousand and Seventy Eight Dollars and forty three and three fourths cents. It is therefore on a division of said balance among the heirs, agreeable to their respective titles thereto. Ordered that the Executor pay John Phillips the sum of Six Hundred and Sixty Nine Dollars and 82 2/3 /100, being the amount of his distributive share of the Estate. (Note: The following persons received the same.)John Booth, William Booth, Charles Booth, Sarah (Jowers) Blackwell, Jesse Cook, and Abraham Chancellor. Ordered that said Executor pay William J. Owen the sum of Three Hundred and Thirty Four Dollars and 91 1/3 /100, being the amount of his distributive share of said Estate. Ordered that said Executor pay Aninanis Norris the sum of Three Hundred Thirty Four Dollars and 91 1/3 /100, being the amount of his distributive share of said Estate. Ordered that when the above amounts are respectively paid to said distributees, the said Executor Thomas Smith be discharged from further execution of the Last Will and Testament of said Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased.

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will - George Blackwell's will

chriskay_1 — 2013-01-22 02:24:34Z

I actually thought Elizabeth Blackwell (married to Abraham Chancellor) was Thorogood's daughter. She is listed in the probate papers as an heir.

http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/25866342/person/1729123307/st...

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will - George Blackwell's will

GigiEvie — 2013-01-22 00:49:01Z

I'm on the Elizabeth Blackwell side (married Abraham Chancellor). Believe her father is the son of George/brother of Thorogood. Abraham listed in George's will, Thorogood not. I read something about Thorogood being left out for some reason, but can't remember why. I will try to find it again. Anyway... ..more bits and pieces (lists a lot of children; I don't think Anne was the mother of all).

In the Name of God Amen,
The thirtieth day of March in the year of our Lord One Thousand Seven Hundred and Sixty Three. I George Blackwell of Edgecombe County, in St. Marys Parish, planter being afflick in body but of perfect mind and memory, thanks be given unto God for the same and calling to mind the Mortality of my body and knowing that it is appointed for all men once to die do make and ordain this my last Will and Testament, that is to say principally and first of all I give and recommend my Soul into the hands of God that give it, and my body I recommend is the Earth, to be buried in a Christian like and decent manner at the direction of my Executors. Nothing doubting but at the General Resurrection I have secure there a -illegible- again by the mighty power of God, and as touching such Worldly Estate wherewith it hath pleased God to Bless me in this life I give and descend of the same, in manner and form following, that is to say in the first place I give unto Mary my Daughter One Schilling Sterling Money and no more than she hath already had. I give my Fanny,my Daughter One Schilling Sterling Money and no more than she hath already had. I give unto Jesse Blackwell my Son One Schilling Sterling Money and no more than he hath already had. I give unto Selah, my Daughter One Schilling Sterling Money and no more than she hath already had. I give unto George Blackwell my Son One Schilling Sterling Money and no more than he hath already had. I give unto my Son Hardea Blackwell my son Land and Plantation on Bute Branch, on the south side of Mockinson and Twenty Five pounds of feathers, and the creatures that I have already given to him marked with mark under each ear. I also give him three dishes, two basons and three plates and one bright Bea Horse,branded with a cross and one bridle and saddle. I lend to my wife Ann Blackwell my well Beloved Wife the Manner Plantation during her life or widowhood and afterwards The Manner Plantation and the Land belonging to it I give to my Sons Edmond Blackwell and William Blackwell and George Blackwell Jr. and no more of my Estate. I also lend to my Well Beloved Wife and all the rest of my Estate, goods and chattells of whatsoever kind during her life or widowhood and afterwards to be equally divided to my children, Abraham Blackwell, Patience Blackwell, Farebea Blackwell, J????? -illegible- Blackwell, Amea Blackwell, Darcas Blackwell. I likewise constitute make and ordain my well beloved wife and my son George Blackwell Jr. my whole and soul Executors of this my Last Will and Testament, and I do hereby utterly disallow, revke and disannul all other Former Testaments, Wills, Legacy,requests and Executors by me in any ways before this time named Will and bequethed-illegible- and confessing this -illegible- to be my last Will and Testament in witnesses where I have here unto set my hand and seal the day and year above written. George Blackwell, signed sealed and delivered in the presents of Thomas Horn, Daniel Johnson, Cornelius Jorvan

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

LionheartCourage — 2013-01-20 17:30:33Z

Diane,
That is correct. You should go ahead and get one of the male Ellis's tested. We did not have any Booth's in our line tested until Roger Booth. What results that brought!!!
The female Mtdna will not help you with Elisha Ellis at all.
You need the Y-DNA only. The Mtdna goes back much further than just five or six generations as does the Y-DNA.

Here is an example of MtDNA and who it goes back to....
Audrey Lee Crockett - Myself
Audrey Lee Booth - My mother
Bertha Beatrice Dick - My mother's mother
Wyncie Minerva Atkins - My grandmother's mother
Sarah Elizabeth Norwood - My great-grandmother's mother and our brickwell...smile...

Here is an example of Y-DNA and who it goes back to....
Stanley Theodore Crockett - My father
Jesse Emmet Crockett - My father's father
William Henry Crockett - My grandfather's father
William Perry Crockett - My great-grandfather's father
William Crockett - My great-great grandfather's father

My father was tested and he matched Crockett cousins that we already knew he would match. Still, I have hope that one day we will find a Crockett match that will help us out. One day I will have my Mtdna done.

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

dianechenault — 2013-01-19 23:50:03Z

Hi Chris,

Thank you so much for your help. I did not know about the will of R Ellis. Do you know if it is on line or do I need to contact the Autauga Gen Sociecy or the Autauga County Heritage Association?
Diane

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

dianechenault — 2013-01-19 23:04:05Z

Thank you Lee. So if no one else in the line has been tested it wouldn't help me to get this cousin to do it. What I understood from the site was that if a female did the test they would only go back 5 possibly 6 generations. Elisha is my 6th generation, so I wouldn't get his father, but like the Y test for men possibly find some other cousin with information. Is that correct? If so I would rather just do the test myself. When you mentioned DNA testing that was the first time I had thought about it, so am not really up to speed on it & greatly appreciate your explanation so far.

I think what you have discovered is very exciting & it gives me hope that somehow I might find the parents of Elisha Ellis & Mary Blackwell. I feel like Mary was related to Thorougood in some way - not her father, but related.

Have you had your DNA tested & what did you discover?

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

LionheartCourage — 2013-01-19 01:13:47Z

Hi Diane,
If you had a male descendant of Elisha Ellis tested and he matched another male Ellis on the FTDNA site then that could be a good starting place for you. You could contact that person and see if he has any records on the Ellis family that could help you. By itself DNA does not always help but when combined with family, court records, etc. it does help a lot.
The male Y-DNA is passed down from father to son and so on down the line. This is how the DNA of men long dead is tested. The female DNA is called mtdna and is passed down from a mother to both sexes of her children but only the daughter can pass it on down. The son can not pass the Mtdna down to his children. Likewise a daughter never receives the Y-DNA from her father.
A perfect example of the use of DNA and courthouse records to identify a family line is that of Thoroughgood Blackwell and John, William Cissaro, and Charles Booth. The DNA match of Roger W. Booth to Abraham Blackwell would have puzzled us without that will and the orphan records for Thoroughgood Blackwell. Now we know that he is our ancestor and that the Booth men were his illegitimate sons. It is really quite exciting and I am not one bit bothered by this at all.
I hope this helps and if you have any more questions, please
feel free to contact me.

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

chriskay_1 — 2013-01-19 01:13:09Z

Diane, have you checked Raleigh Ellis? There is a will of his (Rolly Ellis) in Autauga, 1847. He is in the 1840 census (70 - 79), along with Elisha Ellis (30 - 39) and Wesley Ellis (40 - 49).

A Polly Ellis is listed in the Orphan court records 1847. Could the name be mistaken and actually be Rolly?

There is also an Isaac Ellis listed in the commissioner court records in Autauga, 1842.

R Ellis is listed in the 1830 Autauga Census, 50 - 59 years old. He is the only Ellis in Autauga. (unless someone else is indexed wrong)

I don't know if any of these will help, but I'll keep my eyes open for more possibilities. If you come up with anything at the Family History Library in Salt Lake let me know and I could look next time I'm there.

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

dianechenault — 2013-01-18 23:10:41Z

Hi Lee,

I have me proven back to Elisha Ellis. What I need is his father. I do have a male Ellis cousin who might do the Y testing. From what I could make out from the site you recommended it wouldn't go back far enough for me to be tested. What I don't understand is how they have the DNA from people that died 200 years ago. Let's say that I couldn't prove that Elisha Ellis was my 3rd gr grandfather. How could DNA do that - or can it?

Thank you for your time.
Diane

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

chriskay_1 — 2013-01-18 02:24:41Z

Really intriguing. . .

I looked on familysearch.org just now and if anybody wants to look for the needle in the haystack - loose probate papers for Chester (1788 - 1866);

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19365-32836-23?cc...

none for Darlington, or Cheraws; but Marlboro is there.

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

LionheartCourage — 2013-01-16 19:52:07Z

Chris,
This may be our guy.....not too many Thorogood/Thoroughgood Blackwell's as such an unusual name.....could also be the guy who contested George Blackwell's will. He is not listed in the DAR database but many eligible men are not yet claimed by descendants.

http://mars.archives.ncdcr.gov/DisplaySearchResult.aspx
Provenance
Military Papers -- Revolutionary War Army Accounts
Title
Blackwell, Thorogood
Years:
Creator:
Office of State Comptroller
Office of State Treasurer
Languages:
Call Number:
Volumes 40 - 66
Location:
3B.518 ( Archive Stacks)
MARS Id:
13.30.4557 (Box)
Other Ids:
Physical Description:
Quantity:
Other Copies:
Related Materials:
Arrangement:
Abstract:
Scope / Contents:
Volume and Page References:
Volume:C; Page:159
Volume:J; Page:158
Volume:VI; Page:3; Folio:2
Index Terms:
Personal Names
Blackwell, Thorogood

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

LionheartCourage — 2013-01-16 16:51:37Z

Chris,
Roger W. Booth is a direct descendant of William Cissaro Booth the brother of John and Charles Booth.
Yes, that would be great to get your husband's uncle or male Booth cousins to test too. All I know is that the Abraham Blackwell listed on the FTDNA site is the Revolutionary War Patriot and the same man near Thoroughgood Blackwell in the SC census records. I do not have any way of knowing any of the Blackwell male descendants alive today who could test for Thoroughgood Blackwell re his DNA. However, with that said I am sure that they would match my cousin, Roger W. Booth.
Your information is what has led me to find the truth. I did not know about those proxies until you posted them. Then I found Virginia Garrison's posting on the proxies. Your question about illegitimacy was what prompted me to research that angle and examine the Booth and Blackwell DNA for matches. The truth was in the wording of the will of Thoroughgood Blackwell but I never put it all together until this week.
It is circumstantial evidence combined with the DNA results that lead me to conclude that John, William, and Charles Booth were sons of Thoroughgood Blackwell. I strongly suspect that Thoroughgood was the nephew of Abraham Blackwell. There is an Abraham Blackwell marriage record in Autauga County, AL c. 1835. I also strongly suspect this is a newphew of Thoroughgood Blackwell and maybe a son of the above Abraham Blackwell.
Also, note the excerpt from the will of George Blackwell who died in Edgecombe County, NC. He is possibly the father of Abraham Blackwell and the grandfather of Thoroughgood Blackwell. A Thoroughgood Blackwell contested the will but he would have been too young to be our Autuaga County Thoroughgood Blackwell. With a name like that this Edgecombe County, NC Thoroughgood Blackwell has to be kin to us too!!!!

Autauga County, Alabama Index To Marriage Records
BLACKWELL, ABRAHAM BUTTS, JOANNA 24 MAY 1835 1 271

EDGECOMBE NC COURT MINUTES -(partial) 1757-1784
APRIL, 1767:
LWT of George BLACKWELL was exhibited by the executrix therein named and proved by oaths of Thomas HORN and Cornelius JORDAN two of the subscribing witnesses thereto and at the same time the Executrix was qualified according to whereupon Thoroughgood BLACKWELL by Gabriel PARKER his next friend by Blake BAKER offered a caveat against the Executrix being qualified and the court on
agreement are of opinion (continued 2 pages over) that the caveat be not received and the executrix accordingly qualified according to Law ordered &c.

"Abstracts of Wills Edgecombe Co. NC 1733-1856"

BLACKWELL
Mar 30 1763 No probate date. Wife & Extx: ANN lend manor plantion with reversion to sons, EDMOND/EDWARD, WILLIAM and GEORGE JR. and no more of estate; Children: MARY, FANNIE, JESSE, SELAH and GEORGE, 1 each. Son: HARDEA, plantion on Bell Branch, 20 lbs feathers and the creastures already given him with my mark, 3 dishes, 2 basons, 3 plates, 1 horse branded witha cross; and bridle and saddle: remainder estate to children: ABRAH, PATIENCE, FARABEA, JAMES, AMEA, DORCAS, EDMOND/EDWARD and WILLIAM. Exxr: son: George Blackwell jr. Wit: THOMAS HORN,SR., DANIEL JOHNSON, CORNELIUS JORDON.

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

chriskay_1 — 2013-01-16 03:43:36Z

Wow, this is really interesting. Your Booth cousin - I'm assuming he descends from William Booth, John's brother? What if I can get my husband's one remaining Booth uncle (or one of his Booth cousins) to do a DNA test? Would that help to compare someone from John's lineage to William's and Abraham Blackwell? Do you know who the descendant of Abraham Blackwell is that was compared to your cousin

Are there any Thorogood Blackwell descendants who could be tested?

BTW: I have a subscription to fold3 and just found some of Abraham's war documents. . .

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

LionheartCourage — 2013-01-16 02:01:17Z

Hi Diane,
Yes, DNA can definitely help some but it will not help completely unless the person Elisha Ellis' DNA matched had some records on the family.
Thoroughgood Blackwell was in Chesterfield District, SC in 1820. So he could not have gotten to Alabama much earlier than Elisha Ellis. Biosketches are not always very accurate. They do have clues that need to be verified with records.

This is a good place for DNA testing. The pricing fees are listed there.
http://www.familytreedna.com/

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

dianechenault — 2013-01-16 00:21:20Z

Hi Lee,

Yes I know that Mary is not in Thorougood's will & isn't her father. But the sketch that you sent me that I have also seen many times about my gr gr grandfather, Washington L Ellis, says that his father, Elisha Ellis, came to Autauga County in 1827 & that the Blackwells had come many years before. So if Thorougood only got to Autauga in 1825 that to me is not many years. Maybe Thorougood got to Autauga long before 1825 or some other Blackwell did or whoever wrote the sketch thought that 2 years was many years.

How about my Elisha Ellis who I don't know who his father is - would DNA help there & if so what should I do to find out?

I appreciate any help & wish I knew how to solve this myself.

Thank you,
Diane

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

LionheartCourage — 2013-01-15 20:48:58Z

Diane,
I was wrong...a Mary Blackwell is mentioned in this court record. Maybe that biosketch is right about the Blackwell ancestor in Autauga County, AL.

Regular Orphans Court 25 June 1832
And now at this time came Thomas Smith and presented a paper purporting to be a Will of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased and offered proof that the same was the Last Will and Testament of the said Blackwell. It appearing to the satisfaction of the court that the publication required in the order of the last term on this case was duly made in the Planters Gazette for John Phillips and Pheby his wife to appear at this term of this court and it further appearing that citations were not served upon Dorcas and Mary (?) Blackwell, it is therefore ordered by the court that an (illegible) citations issue commanding them to appear at the Regular term of the Orphans Court to be held the fourth Monday in July next and the cause is continued till that day. It is further ordered that citations issue commanding the sherfii to summon Moses (?) Chancellor and Elizabeth his wife, Abijah Shumake and Dorcas his wife, Jesse Cook and Eleanor his wife, Elizabeth Cook and Pheby Cook to appear on the next regular term of the Orphans Court to be held on the fourth Monday in July next, to show why the said Will should not be admitted to probate. And it is further appearing that the Estate is in danger of being injured for the want of a proper person to take charge thereof. It is further ordered by the court that Thomas Smith be appointed Administrator thereof, until the validity of the said Will be determined, and he having given Bond and Security according to law and taken the oath prescribed by law. It is ordered that letters be issued to him. Ordered that Bond of Thomas Smith as Temporary Administrator an upon the Estate of Thoroughgood Blackwell deceased the sum of Fifteen Thousand Dollars with Benjamin Motley, Etheridge Rogers, and J.D. Gop be received and recorded.

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

LionheartCourage — 2013-01-15 20:46:47Z

Hi Diane,
This is what I told you a couple of years ago. Mary Blackwell was not listed as an heir of Thoroughgood Blackwell in his will or the orphan court records. Off hand I know of no other Blackwell in Autauga County that could be her ancestor. Mtdna is pretty useless on the female line as it will not tell you if she was a Blackwell or not. This type DNA comes only from the mother. The father passes his DNA down to his sons only and never to a daughter.

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will
LionHeartCourage (View posts) Posted: 21 Oct 2010 10:25PM
Classification: Query
Hi Diane,
You have probably already seen this biosketch for your ancestor but just in case part of it is included below with the link to the rest. It appears from the biosketch that Mary Blackwell could very well be the granddaughter of Thoroughgood Blackwell. He was from the Cheraws District which later became Chesterfield, Marlboro, and Darlington Counties, SC. Thoroughgood lived in Chesterfield County, SC. He came to Alabama about 1825 per his first Autauga County, AL land deed.
I can think of no one other than Thoroughgood Blackwell who could have been the father of Mary Blackwell.
I have no idea which son was her father though as I have not researched Mary Blackwell. I simply came across her when googling Blackwell and Autuaga trying to find out more on my ancestor Thoroughgood Blackwell.
Lee

This biosketch is for a great grandson of Thoroughgood Blackwell.
http://www.genealogymagazine.com/walel.html
WASHINGTON L. ELLIS
WASHINGTON L. ELLIS, contractor, etc., for the Pratt Gin company, was born near Prattville, Autauga county, Ala., October 22, 1834, the son of Elisha and Mary (Blackwell) Ellis, born, respectively, in North Carolina in 1803 and in South Carolina in 1812. Elisha Ellis came to Alabama in 1827, a single man, the Blackwell family having preceded him by many years. Mrs. Mary Ellis was a Methodist in her religious belief, and died in 1885. Elisha Ellis still survives, is a Baptist, and was a farmer until after the close of the late war. Barney Ellis, a brother of Elisha, died in Autauga county about 1845, and another brother, James Edward, joined a company of soldiers that went to Texas in the early struggle for the independence of that state, and was massacred. Grandfather Blackwell was a pioneer of Autauga county, was a farmer, reared a large family and died many years ago. etc.

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

dianechenault — 2013-01-15 20:37:17Z

I have been trying to find out who the parents of Mary Blackwell (1812-1885) married to Elisha Ellis where. They lived in Autauga County. Do you have any info on her or know how I can use DNA to find her parents in SC. She lists on each census that she was born in SC. Also am looking for the parents of Elisha Ellis born in NC (1803-1894). Would appreciate any help.

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

LionheartCourage — 2013-01-15 17:07:47Z

Chris,
The Abraham Blackwell that matches Roger W. Booth is the Revolutionary War Patriot and the man on the same page in the SC census record.
It appears that Margaret Booth was the mother of the Booth men and Nella Blackwell the mother of Thorogood's legitimate children.
I place little value in the naming of children as often times they are not named after anyone. I place more value in what DNA proves.
DNA is a useful tool and it has proved its usefulness in helping to solve the riddle of why John, William and Charles Booth were listed in the will of Thorogood Blackwell....case closed....smile...

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

LionheartCourage — 2013-01-15 16:59:25Z

Chris,
In a word no...it is not possible for it to be a nephew relationship from a female sister of Thorogood Blackwell. Y DNA is passed down only from father to son and never from a female. Mtdna is passed down from the mother to both sexes of children but only the daughter can pass the Mtdna down to her children. I am the administrator of the Crockett DNA project on FTDNA and know the fundamentals of DNA.
I believe the proxies of Margiana Matilda Booth and Joseph Henry Crawford combined with the will and orphan records for Thorogood Blackwell show clearly and without doubt that John, William and Charles Booth were his illegitimate children. Hence the wording "That John Booth, Charles Booth and William Booth be equal heirs with my lawful children" in his will. I can not see him making mere nephews heirs with his natural children.
Abraham, Thorogood, and William Blackwell were in the same area per the 1790, 1810, 1820 SC census records. Abraham Blackwell was a Revolutionary War veteran and his file says he was from Chesterfield District, SC.
There are some researchers who say Abraham and Thorogood Blackwell are sons of the George Blackwell who died in Edgecombe County, NC c. 1767 but so far I see no proof of this.

1790 United States Federal Census
Name: Thorough-Good Blackwell
[Thoroughgood Blackwell]
Township: St Thomas
County: Cheraws District
State: South Carolina
Number of Free White Males 16 and Over: 1
Number of Free White Females: 5
Number of Household Members: 6

1790 United States Federal Census
Name: Abraham Blackwell
Home in 1790 (City, County, State): St Thomas, Cheraws District, South Carolina
Free White Persons - Males - Under 16: 2
Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over: 1
Free White Persons - Females: 5
Number of Household Members: 8
*Abraham and William Blackwell are on the same page as Thorogood Blackwell.

MILITARY: DAR PATRIOT INDEX
BLACKWELL, ABRAHAM Ancestor #: A207045
Service: SOUTH CAROLINA Rank: PRIVATE
Birth: 9-11-1742
Death: (POST) 1-12-1836 CHESTERFIELD DIST SOUTH CAROLINA
Pension Number: *S18328
Service Description: 1) CAPTS ELISHA MAGEE, HARDYMAN, DUBOSE, FAIR & JOHN WATTS; COLS BENTON & HICKS
Residence
1) District: CHERAWS DIST - State: SOUTH CAROLINA
Spouse
Number Name
1) SARAH X

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

chriskay_1 — 2013-01-15 06:16:21Z

Would you believe that the first notebook I looked in (after not looking at these notes for over a year) was on my dresser, first page!! These are the notes I took at FHL. I could have made errors, so if you want you can check the original films.

FHL film # 170857; done by Joseph Henry Crawford, 2nd husband of Margie Matilda Booth (Joseph's relationship to. . . )

Thorogood Blackwell b. 1760 U.S. grandson-in-law
George Blackwell b. 1787 U.S. nephew-in-law
James Blackwell b. 1795 U.S. nephew-in-law
Charles Booth b. 1805 U.S. nephew-in-law
John T Owens b. 1802 U.S. nephew-in-law
William Booth b. 1805 U.S. nephew-in-law

Margie Matilda Booth Johnson Crawford (her relationship to. . . )
Nancy Owens b. 1792 U.S. niece
Matilda Owens . 1808 U.S. niece
Dorcas Blackwell b. 1785 U.S. grand niece
Nella Blackwell b. 1790 U.S. grand niece
Ann Blackwell b. 1793 U.S. grand niece
Phebe Blackwell b. 1801 U.S. niece
Nella Blackwell b. 1753 U.S. Granddaughter
Elizabeth Boon b. U.S. niece
Margaret Booth b. U.S. granddaughter

Film #170847

John Booth b. 24 Jun 1797 d. 11 Mar 1864; Son-in-law
John Owens b. 1762, grandson-in-law
Martha Ann Owens Booth, b. Mar 1797 daughter
Martha Thomas Owens b. 1772 granddaughter
Mary Johnson 24 May 1801, d. 20 Jul 1873, step-daughter

There were pages of others, but these are the ones relating to the Booth family & Blackwell family.

Films can be ordered from any Family History Center.

Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

chriskay_1 — 2013-01-15 05:11:13Z

That is really interesting. . . Maybe the Booth boys were Thorogood's nephews, raised as sons. . . Children of his sister (Blackwell markers) who married a Booth?

One thing I keep going back to is the names of the Booth children:

John Booth had Nancy Mary Ann, Charles Ransom, Alfred Monroe, Elizabeth Adeline, Amanda Louisa, Martha Melvina, William Franklin, Benjamin John, and Margie Matilda

William Booth had Charles D, John L, Nancy B, Matilda, William, Walter, Thomas, Alvin, George, Daransilier (Dee), Mary, & James Franklin.

Charles Booth had Martha, Margaret, James, John, Mary, Charles, & Samuel; and Daniel, Benjamin, Jesse, Elias, Zachary, Joseph, Sarah, & Washington Wilkes.

Nobody had a Thorogood, or a Blackwell, or a Nella, or an Eleanor, or Dorcus, or Pheobe. Only one had a George and two had a James, one Ann. None of the grandchildren had any of these names, either. I know that isn't proof, but it seems a bit odd. . .

There is one name we haven't focused on in Margie's list - Margaret Booth, granddaughter (pretty sure the original didn't say in law, but I need to check). If Margie is the granddaughter of Margaret Booth, then she would have been John's mother. Maybe Margaret Blackwell(was there one?) Notice each family had a Margaret, Margie, or Matilda.

Ahhh, the speculation. Sure is fun. I'll find my notes and see what I can find out in those. If you would like I'll get the original film numbers or copies of the original records and send them to you.

Re: Autauga Co. deed books

MarthaSullivanSmith — 2013-01-15 04:31:26Z

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Re: Thorogood Blackwell 's will

LionheartCourage — 2013-01-15 03:31:50Z

Chris,
You got me thinking along the illegitimate lines regarding John, William and Charles Booth. I started digging. My cousin, Roger W. Booth had his DNA tested. I just now found an Abraham Blackwell on the FTDNA project who matches Roger W. Booth 24 out of 25 markers. This is considered a good match. This Abraham Blackwell is the son of George Blackwell and brother to Thoroughgood Blackwell. It all makes sense to me now about the will saying the Booth men get equal shares with his natural children as they were also his children by it appears Nella Booth. I say Booth as I suspect they took their mother's maiden name for some reason or another. So we are not Booth's by surname but Blackwell's according to the DNA testing.

http://www.worldfamilies.net/surnames/booth/results
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Blackwell/default.aspx?s...

DNA Results: Only markers DYS458 differ and it is a 24/25 match.
B-15 105963 R.W. Booth R1a1a
14 26 16 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 11 31 16 9 10 11 11 24 14 20 33 12 15 15 16

265134 Blackwell Abraham Blackwell, b. 1742 and d. 1835 United States R1a1a
14 26 16 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 11 31 15 9 10 11 11 24 14 20 33 12 15 15 16