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Opothle Yaholo/Jim Boy/Campbell's

Opothle Yaholo/Jim Boy/Campbell's

Posted: 19 Jan 2005 10:50PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 20 Jan 2005 7:55PM GMT
Surnames: CAMPBELL, MENEWA, MENAWA, YAHOLO, CORNELS, REID, COBB
On page 136 of Ulysses Abrams book (Early History of Bibb County Alabama) I found the following:

"James REID vs. Opothle-Yahola and Jim Boy (37)

Trespass, assault, and Battery - This action was tried at the term of the Circuit Court, which has just terminated. Judgment by default had been rendered at a previous term. From the evidence, it appeared that in June, 1828, the plaintiff accompanied a deputy of the sheriff of Shelby County into the Creek Nation for the purpose of aiding in the execution of
process; that he was seized by the Indians, bound with cords, stripped of his clothing save a light shirt and pantaloons, carried first to Tuckabatchee and there, by one of the defendants, bound with additional cords and
ordered on to Thomas Trippett's who was the sub-agent; and from there, taken to Line Creek by a party of Indians under command of the other defendants, his back made bare, tied fast to a tree, and beat with hickory sticks an inch thick and five feet in length, forty stripes.

The court instructed the jury that the only question for them was to assess damage. They retired, and in a few minutes, returned with a verdict of $4500.00.

The case was argued by Busbee and Hinton for the plaintiff; and Gordon, Goldthwaite and Campbell for the defendants."

(37) The Alabama Intellingencer, Tuscaloosa, April, 1830.

Can someone tell me what relation Opothle Yaholo had (if any) to Menawa? My Charity, a creek indian, who married David CAMPBELL is said by some to be the daughter or sister to Menawa . . . and some says she is the daughter of Davy CORNELS . . . very confusing!

Anyway the person, James REID, mentioned in this case was a neighbor of Alexander COBB who my Elijah C CAMPBELL (son of Charity and David) was the overseer for . . . I am interested in researching this further, but do not have any idea where to start . . . also am interested in the CAMPBELL who defended them.

Thanks,

Melissa

Re: Opothle Yaholo/Jim Boy/Campbell's

Posted: 5 May 2005 5:24AM GMT
Classification: Query
Melissa,
Menewa's (1765 - 1843) boyhood name was Yoholo; the name given to him by his father was Othlepoya Yoholo. When the Creeks chose him as chief in 1820, he became known as Menewa. On April 26, 1826, he was chosen as the principle chief of the Creek Indian tribes. (This information is from a letter written by Mary Ann Campbell Peigh of Bessemer, Alabama, on December 28, 1970, to her uncle, Joshua Banks Campbell.)
Menewa married Hannah Cornell, also a Creek. They had two children, Katee Ann (1786 - 1865) and Little Warrior (1785 - 181?). Katee Ann married Reuben Weed (Creek, ? - 1814; died in Battle of Horseshoe Bend), and they had Katee (1804 - 1890), Hannah (died 1880), and Charity Yoholo (died 1872). Charity, Menewa's grandaughter, married Robert David Campbell (1767 - 1835), and they had twins Asa and Nathan, and two girls and another son who seem to have disappeared with their mother. Asa and Nace were raised by their father's brother, Alvin, upon their father's death.
I hope this will help.

Re: Opothle Yaholo/Jim Boy/Campbell's

Elisa Sanford (View posts)
Posted: 5 May 2005 9:32PM GMT
Classification: Query
do you happen to know if Asa was a shortened name for anything else? and where were these people located?
i have been hunting for a connected to some family somewhere??? for a very long time to my gg-grandfather Campbell and have been unable to locate one other than the family he had after he married.

Re: Opothle Yaholo/Jim Boy/Campbell's

Posted: 5 May 2005 10:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: CAMPBELL
I have seen some of the information before on Asa's family, but have found some of the dates to be off . . . for example David Campbell died in 1824, not 1835 and his brother's name was Aaron not Alvin . . . I don't recall seeing Charity listed as Menewa's granddaughter though . . . where did you see that?

Melissa

Re: Opothle Yaholo/Jim Boy/Campbell's

Posted: 31 Aug 2006 2:25AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Melissa, I was scanning around some old post and came across this one again. Do you know what the "(37)" behind Jim Boy's name is referring to in the document info you were posting? I have another family tree from the Shelby Co. Historical files that has similar numbers behind it's individuals names, (4), (12), etc. If know of a family file somewhere that reflects these numbers please send me in the right direction, I could use a good clue!.
Thanks,
Karen

Re: Opothle Yaholo/Jim Boy/Campbell's

Posted: 24 Oct 2006 3:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: yaholo, campbell
Karen

I don't see where I replied to your post . . . the (37) is the footnote which cites the newspaper and issue.

Melissa

Re: Opothle Yaholo/Jim Boy/Campbell's

Posted: 12 Feb 2012 2:42AM GMT
Classification: Query
This is completely wrong--- Menewa and Opothle Yoholo were two entirely different people--- just could not let this pass for real knowledge or information
Hothlepoya was Menewa's first name before he became the Great Warrior. He died on the way to Oklahoma at removal.

Opothle Yoholo made it to OK, Lost everything in the Civil War and was hunted down by members of the McIntosh family in retribution for the killing of their cheif William McIntoshIndian Springs in 1825 in Georgia who sold the Creeks out in the Treaty of Indian Springs which ceded all the Creek lnad in Georgia to the Federal gov't. Opothle Yoholo died in Kansas.

Re: Opothle Yaholo/Jim Boy/Campbell's

Posted: 3 Jul 2012 3:53AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Cornells ?
Thank you. But, please---what was Opothle Yoholo's ENGLISH name. I believe he was a Cornells. If not, please do tell.

Re: Opothle Yaholo/Jim Boy/Campbell's

Posted: 3 Jul 2012 1:35PM GMT
Classification: Query
I have read at least 3 accounts that say that it is thought that he was the son of Davy Cornells but I also think that the details of his birth date and place are not really known

Re: Opothle Yaholo/Jim Boy/Campbell's

Posted: 23 Sep 2012 2:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
The information that i have says Charity was MENEWA's sister shewas married to Robert David Campbell
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