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Re: birth state

jmyoung365 — 2013-06-20 05:26:31Z

No one can help you without knowing the name of the brother.

I would suggest posting your query on the SURNAME board for your brother's surname. The USA General board it not appropriate for this type of catch-all query.

Joan, admin
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Re: birth state

barbdale_1 — 2013-06-19 23:16:05Z

Have you looked for his obituary-that may help. You could also request his social security application, which should list birth place
http://genealogy.about.com/od/online_records/a/ss5_request.h...

If he was born prior to 1940, you can look for him in the census.

If you tell us the city and state where he died, we can give you specific information about where to search for an obit.

birth state

njthomas9 — 2013-06-19 21:06:37Z

i'm trying to find the birth state of my deceased brother. I've been able to find his social security number! Ha! But not where he was borned. He was my older brother and we lost contact for several years. Is it possible to find this out???

Re: ada hilton

11944 — 2013-06-19 18:20:20Z

the handwritten passenger list has his occupation as blacksmith

Re: ada hilton

11944 — 2013-06-19 18:18:57Z

On the hand written passenger list under the line for her father's address,
Ada what is written, looks like Bro or both indicating same address

Re: Help Please!

alexspiderboy — 2013-06-19 17:26:22Z

They got married in Canada. I don't know where she died, I think the US.

Re: ada hilton

46john — 2013-06-19 17:22:13Z

thank you yet again for all this wonderful information.

Re: ada hilton

eGENEee — 2013-06-19 17:17:52Z

The 167 Union address in the wedding annoucement matches the address in Richard Delaware Sine's WWI draft registration. He was born March 9, 1880.

Other records at Ancestry.com match his name, birthdate as well.

Re: ada hilton

eGENEee — 2013-06-19 17:12:07Z

Here's the marriage announcement for Ada Hilton and Richard D. Sine:

Miss Hilton Weds Lambertville Man
Miss Ada Hilton, of 531 East State Street, became the bride of Richard D. Sine, of 167 Union Street, Lambertville, Thursday, January 2.
The ceremony was performed at the Grace Episcopal Church, with the Rev. Milton A. Craft officiating. The attendants were Miss Dorothy Miller and Thomas A. Leonard.
Source: Trenton Evening Times, January 11, 1919

Re: Help Please!

alexspiderboy — 2013-06-19 17:01:13Z

Yea, I should say they also had a daughter. Grace Alma Richards, born in 1920 in Canada.

Re: Help Please!

alexspiderboy — 2013-06-19 16:59:21Z

No they never married.

Re: ada hilton

46john — 2013-06-19 16:33:48Z

thank very much

Re: ada hilton

eGENEee — 2013-06-19 16:17:28Z

I found William Hilton's obituary. His sons' names match the names in the Bernhard obituary. See below.

Re: ada hilton

46john — 2013-06-19 15:56:52Z

please accept my thanks for another excellent lead, this is the second in less than two hours
thank you

Re: ada hilton

vansicklen1 — 2013-06-19 15:40:32Z

Did she have brothers named Samuel, Ernest and Harry Hilton? If so then, the following may be the report of her death.

Trenton New Jersey Evening Times
May 29, 1939
Mrs Ada Hilton Bernhard, wife
of Julius Bernhard, assistant
treasurer of the Princeton Wor-
sted Mill, died yesterday morning
at her home, 38 Hillvista Boule-
vard, following an illness of
six months. She was 43 years old.
A resident of Trenton for the
last 25 years. Mrs Bernhard
came to this city from England
when she was 23. She married
Mr. Bernhard about 15 years ago
and was active in the affairs of the
Trenton Country Club and was
an ardent golf enthusiast.
Besides her husband she is sur-
vived by a daughter, Elaine, 10,
and three brothers, Samuel Hil-
ton, Ernest Hilton and Harry Hil-
ton all of Trenton.
The Funeral will be held from
the Church Home of Ivins & Tay-
lor, 77 Prospect Street, Wednes-
day afternoon at 2:30 o'clock with
services by the Rev. Samuel
Steinmetz of St. Michael's Epis-
copal Church. Burial will be in
Ewining Church Cemetery. Friends
may call tomorrow evening at the
Church Home.

The 1930 census shows the daughter was named "Mathilde E.", likely Mathilde Elaine.

Re: Help Please!

eGENEee — 2013-06-19 14:49:33Z

Were Grace Richards and Lloyd Childress married?

Re: ada hilton

46john — 2013-06-19 14:48:13Z

thank you very much first excellent lead

Re: Help Please!

eGENEee — 2013-06-19 14:44:50Z

According to your tree George S. Richards and this woman had a daughter. Have you tried to locate the daughter's marriage license or death certificate? Those could indicate her mother's name.

How about George S. Richards' obituary?

Re: ada hilton

pioneer1856_1 — 2013-06-19 13:35:12Z

Ada Hilton married Richrd D Sine Jan 2, 1919 per snippet in Trenton Evening Times, Jan 11, 1919 page 4. It appears from research through census, newspapers, etc that he may have been a florist who lived in Lambertville, NJ and then with his brother-inlaw in Bucks county, PA. they must have been separated by 1920 census as she is listed as married but living in rooming house. He is later listed as single in later census. Richard Delaware Sine and he is listed as being from Lambertville. Worth having a look. Not related. Good Luck.

Re: ada hilton

46john — 2013-06-19 12:28:45Z

I AM AFRAID TO SAY I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTIONS
I WAS JUST HOPING THAT SOMEONE SOMEWHERE KNOWS THE ANSWERS.
I AM ALMOST SURE SHE DID NOT RETURN TO ENGLAND.
THE ONLY REASON FOR MY REQUEST FOR INFORMATION IS ADA IS THE ONLY MEMBER OF THE FAMILY I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.
i KNOW IT IS A VERY VERY LONG SHOT THAT SOMEONE WILL KNOW THE ANSWER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPLY.

Re: ada hilton

thomasker2 — 2013-06-19 12:07:27Z

I’m not related to any member of this family.
1940 is the last available census at this time.

Need to know who she married.

OR did she return to England??

Re: ada hilton

46john — 2013-06-19 06:58:16Z

Thank you for your reply.

Re: ada hilton

ELLinSpain — 2013-06-19 06:28:37Z

Name: Ada Hilton
Arrival Date: 23 Dec 1913
Age: 22 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Merion
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Friend's Name: Samuel Hilton
Last Residence: England
Birthplace: Longton staffs, England
Microfilm Roll Number: T840_122

WITH DAD WILLIAM
STATES GOING TO TRENTON, NEW JERSEY

Re: Help Please!

talbotrail — 2013-06-19 02:00:10Z

With so little info, I'm just throwing this out as a POSSIBILITY.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FDDN-PW7

Name: Angeline Richards
Gender: Female
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Death Date: 27 Nov 1929
Death Place: Minnesota, United States
Age: 39
Birth Date: 1890
Birthplace:
Occupation:
Race:
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: George Richards
Father's Name: August Carpenter
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Mary Moran
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I09814-7
System Origin: Minnesota-EASy
GS Film number: 2242282
Reference ID:

http://people.mnhs.org/dci/

Date of Death: 27 Nov 1929
County of Death: HENNEPIN
_______________________________________________________

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N3B7-DLV

Washington, Death Certificates, 1907-1960

Name: Charles Byron Tradewell
Event Date: 30 Mar 1952
Event Place: Wenatchee, Chelan, Washington
Gender: Male
Race (Original):
Age (Formatted): 38 years
Birth Year (Estimated): 1914
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Marital Status:
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name: Joseph Tradewell
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name: Angeline Carpenter
Mother's Birthplace:
Occupation:
Address:
Residence Place:
Cemetery:
Burial Place:
Burial Date: 03 Apr 1952
Informant's Name (Original):
GS Film number: 2033086
Digital Folder Number: 4224250
Image Number: 346
Reference ID: 3721

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=tr...;

______________________________________________________

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V4CN-C3B

Minnesota, Death Index, 1908-2002

parents:Carpenter
Name: Chester Deville Tradewell
Name Suffix:
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 16 Dec 1988
Event Place: Polk, Minnesota
Birth Date: 19 Nov 1915
Birthplace:
Born in Minnesota: N
Record Number: 2306586
Certificate Number: 035604
Certificate Year: 1988
File Name: 035604
Affiliate Batch Identifier: NF301DN
Typed or Handwritten: T

Wilbert R Tradewell (1945-1962)- possibly Chester's son.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=tr...;

Marlys Christine Tradewell Rasmussen (1938-1994)- daughter of Chester TRADEWELL and Myrtle NEPHEW. Date of death here for Chester says 1968, does not match Minnesota Death Index.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=tr...;

___________________________________________________

12 public trees on Ancestry for Chester TRADEWELL

Father: Howard "Byron" aka Joseph Tradewell
Mother: Angeline Carpenter

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pubmembertrees...

Tree
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/39BV-XSX

_________________________________________________________

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=42...

Joseph August "August Carpenter" Charpentier

Birth: Dec. 24, 1843, France
Death: Apr. 12, 1906
Red Lake Falls
Red Lake County
Minnesota, USA
_________________________________________________________

"I'm still looking for info on Joseph Tradewell and Angeline Carpenter Family - Charles, Chester, Anna Bell And Mae Tradewell.

Angeline married George Richards later, and they lived in Sask, Canada.

I believe that there were 4 Richards children, but I'm not sure if they are from Georges first marriage or not. The Tradewell's lived in Minnesota and Adams, North Dakota.

I'm also looking for info on Angeline's sister Elizabeth Carpenter who married Henry Goergen. They lived in Minnesota and Calif. Also a brother Charles Carpenter that may have moved to Calif. from Northome Mn. in the early 1950's"

http://boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=14823&a...

Re: Samuel W James (1842-1913)

barbdale_1 — 2013-06-18 23:24:02Z

This may be your Samuel in 1850 in Edgar County - he married Mary there in 1861
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M85P-V6L

In the 1860 census, he is listed there as well, with Wiley there as head of household. There is a Christopher G. James, age 50, possibly Greenup?.

Re: Samuel W James (1842-1913)

barbdale_1 — 2013-06-18 23:23:45Z

Re: Help Please!

barbdale_1 — 2013-06-18 23:04:36Z

Where did she marry George Richards, and where did she die?

ada hilton

46john — 2013-06-18 19:43:30Z

Ada Hilton born 1893 in longton Stoke on Trent.
emigrated late 1913 landed Philadelphia with her father William Hilton who died soon afterwards.
Information on what happened to Ada after 1913 would be much appreciated.

Help Please!

alexspiderboy — 2013-06-18 19:19:54Z

I'm looking for any information about a woman who was born in 1893 in Canada. I know she lived somewhere in Canada and I think she lived in the US at a time. In 1918 she married George S. Richards, and of died in 1929 of stomach cancer. I would really like to know her name and any other information. Thank you.

Re: Proszogulowicz

jmockunas — 2013-06-17 23:36:36Z

Thanks, I had not come across the location Preišiogala. As far as I can tell occurrences of the surname Preisegalavicius at present seem to be clustered around Kaunas and in Brazil.

Re: Did Robert Macay stay in the States?

eGENEee — 2013-06-17 16:18:12Z

What is your source of info re: Robert?

Re: Did Robert Macay stay in the States?

eGENEee — 2013-06-17 16:07:04Z

There's no mention of Robert Macay in an obituary I found for his brother Charles. Siblings George Eric Mackay and Marie Corelli (half-sister Mary Mackay, but claimed to be adopted sister) are mentioned.

I'm assuming this means Robert died before 1907.

I'll keep looking...

Re: Did Robert Macay stay in the States?

eGENEee — 2013-06-17 15:50:11Z

This doesn't help with Robert, but I thought you might like a detailed bio re: his father:

http://www.oxforddnb.com/view/printable/17555

Re: Proszogulowicz

vildasul — 2013-06-17 11:54:33Z

About Preisagalavicius.The most similar is german Preis. In my Lithuania's surname dictionary Preišagalavičius and Preišegolavičius is mentioned, but the etymology is not explained. There is also a village in Kaunas county Preišiogala:
http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prei%C5%A1iogala

Did Robert Macay stay in the States?

dwillmot — 2013-06-16 20:19:44Z

I am looking for a Robert Mackay. He and his older brother, Charles Bruce Mackay came to America in 1854. Charles was 21 in age at that time, and settled in Tornoto. From this point, I have no information on Robert Mackay. He could of stayed in America or went into somewhere in Canada.
The other things I have on him, he was Scottish, but lived in London, England, before coming over, His father was the famous Dr. Charles .Need help in finding what happen to Robert Mackay.
Thank you,
Diane

Re: Vorbeck, Christian

EileenWilson001 — 2013-06-13 15:02:15Z

Sorry, you should cross post on the Germany board for someone who can read the German script.

Re: Vorbeck, Christian

EileenWilson001 — 2013-06-13 15:01:09Z

It may be Audorf.

Re: Vorbeck, Christian

EileenWilson001 — 2013-06-13 14:55:51Z

The Hamburg emigration record for Christian is online at Ancestry.ca (browseable only) and includes his place of birth which I interpret as Andorf. There may also be a Karl (Carl) Vorbeck travelling with him. Perhaps someone else on this board can give a full explanation of what is written on the record.

Re: Elijah Roy Bailey

marylindsay1 — 2013-06-12 23:41:04Z

You're welcome

Re: Elijah Roy Bailey

jlrone1 — 2013-06-12 23:25:57Z

Wow! Thank you! I will try to get in touch with her! Thanks again ... Laura

Re: Elijah Roy Bailey

marylindsay1 — 2013-06-12 22:51:41Z

Hi, Laura,
My friend is Maureen WHITELAW and George McLEAN was her uncle.I did extensive American research for her on Dr McLean and she has extensive research on another uncle, Malcolm, his brother, who stayed in Scotland and she would dearly love to hear from you. I did not retain any of my physical research records but they filled a 4" notebook, as well as a 3" notebook, which I sent on to her. I made sure to document everything I did. Maureen is a professional researcher, and you can get in touch with her at searches@colloquium.co.uk. She has been eager to hear from any American relatives and she will be thrilled. If you contact me by e-mail, if I have anything you might not have, if I sent it by e-mail to Maureen, I still have it in my archived messages. marylindsay1@comcast.net

Re: paolo (paul) polito

eGENEee — 2013-06-12 22:49:34Z

Maria Polito is listed with the same job and the same address in the 1982 directory:

http://archive.org/stream/sanfranciscosanf1982rlpo#page/734/...

Re: Elijah Roy Bailey

jlrone1 — 2013-06-12 22:30:37Z

Hi my name is Laura Bailey. My father is George McLean Bailey, my grandfather is Elijah Roy Bailey and grandmother Nina Gertrude (Woods). I saw your post while doing a search on George McLean and Nancy Large. Wondering who you are and who this friend in Scotland is? I look forward to your reply!

Re: paolo (paul) polito

eGENEee — 2013-06-12 22:03:27Z

This is interesting:

Name:
Paul Polito

Address:
143 Somerset St, San Francisco, CA, 94134-1443 (1994)

Source: US Public Records Index, Vol. 1

He might be his son or he's still listed in the property records.

Re: paolo (paul) polito

eGENEee — 2013-06-12 21:57:22Z

In the 1971 Polk's Directory:

Polito Maria (wid Paul) Packer Armanino Chive Farms H143 Somerset St

(Remember -- Directories are usually a year or so behind the info)

Re: paolo (paul) polito

eGENEee — 2013-06-12 21:37:30Z

In the 1968 Polk Directory a wife is listed:

Polito Paul (Mary) H143 Somerset St

Re: paolo (paul) polito

eGENEee — 2013-06-12 21:24:53Z

From Polk's 1957 San Francisco directory:

Polito Frank mach r1133 Delores
" Paul ironwkr h909 Page apt 6

http://archive.org/stream/polkssanfrancisc1957rlpo#page/1096...

From Polk's 1951 San Francisco directory:

Polito Paul r27 San Carlos

http://archive.org/stream/polkssanfrancisc194849rlpo#page/10...

Re: paolo (paul) polito

eGENEee — 2013-06-12 21:20:04Z

According to Polk's 1967 San Francisco directory:

Polito Paul H143 Somerset St

No wife is listed.

http://archive.org/stream/polkssanfrancisc1967rlpo#page/914/...

It's implied that he owned the house (he wasn't renting -- that would be "R" not "H") so there should be additional records on that.

Re: Joseph Carle Born abt 1856

jdparry1978 — 2013-06-11 16:14:47Z

Thanks everyone for your help.

It is really appreciated. The information has helped me a lot.

Thanks
Jonathan

Re: Seemann Family from Holland

irmalommen124 — 2013-06-11 06:32:33Z

Thank you Pat.

for you Americans these abbreviations may be clear but to us Europeans they not always are.

Thank you for clearing this for me.

Greetings,
Irma