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Elusive Eleanor and her mum

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Re: Elusive Eleanor and her mum

Posted: 9 May 2012 8:31PM GMT
Classification: Query

Name: Mary A Wormwell
Event: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender: Female
Age: 29
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Birthplace: Colne, Lancashire
Record Type: Household
Registration District: Burnley
Sub-district: Colne
Ecclesiastical Parish: Colne St Bartholomew
Civil Parish: Colne
County: Lancashire

Name: Eleanor Wormwell
Event: Census
Event Date: 31 Mar 1901
Gender: Female
Age: 3
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birthplace: Shipton, Yorkshire
Record Type: Household
Registration District: Burnley
Sub-district: Colne
Ecclesiastical Parish: Colne St Bartholomew
Civil Parish: Colne
County: Lancashire

Have you determined that father of Mary Alice Heap was Servatus/Servetus Heap and mother Margaret Eunice or Hannah Ellis ?

I think I have found Mary Alice, daughter Eleanor and a son John Edmund "Halacan" born in Massachusetts in 1910 who went by surname Hirst.

The details get more complicated if this is the same mother and daughter. I'm having trouble finding their arrivals as it appears that Eleanor did not come to US same time as Mary Alice who used several alias surnames.

Name: Mary Alice Heap
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 26 May 1872
Baptism/Christening Place: Colne, Lancashire, England
Birth Date: 21 Dec 1870
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Servetus Heap
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret Hannah
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00061-6
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1471024
Reference Number: item 9 p 154
Source Citation
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org

1881
Name: Mary Alice Heap
Age: 10
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1871
Birthplace: Colne, Lancashire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Grand Daughter
Marital Condition: Single
Profession/Occupation: Scholar
Address: Market St
Census Place: Colne, Lancashire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
Family History Library Film: 1341998
The National Archives Reference: RG11
Piece/Folio: 4164 / 103
Page Number: 2
Household Gender Age
William Ellis M 57 1824 Colne, Lancashire, England overlooker in Cotton Mill
Alice Ellis F 54 1827 Colne, Lancashire breadbaker
Margret Eunice Heap F 28 1853 Colne occupation S? P? married
Mary Alice Heap F 10
Joseph Henry Heap M 9 01 Feb 1872 Colne grandson christened 26 May 1872 Colne
Edmondson Heap M 5 1876 Colne grandson
Maggie Heap F 0 1881 New Church, Lancashire grand dtr

1881
Name: Mary Alice Heap
Age: 10
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1871
Birthplace: Colne, Lancashire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Marital Condition: Single
Profession/Occupation: Scholar
Address: Burnley Rd
Census Place: Newchurch With Bacup, Lancashire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
Family History Library Film: 1341988
The National Archives Reference: RG11
Piece/Folio: 4130 / 76
Page Number: 45
Household Gender Age
Parent Servetus Heap M 31 1850 Newchurch, Lancashire cloth cutter born 22 Jan 1850 christened 03 March 1850 Newchurch in Rossendale, Lancashire son of Henry Heap and Marianne
Parent Margaret Heap F 30 1851 Colne, Lancashire
Mary Alice Heap F 10
Joseph Henry Heap M 9 1872 Colne
Edmundson Heap M 5 1876 Colne
Maggie Heap F 0 1881 Newchurch

"England and Wales Census, 1881," index, FamilySearch https://familysearch.org

Name: Edmund Hirst address 79 Oxford occupation card grinder said 2nd marriage
Titles & Terms:
Event: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Nov 1910
Event Place:
Gender: Male
Age: 59
Marital Status: Widowed
Race:
Birth Date: 1851
Birthplace: England
Marriage Registration Year:
Marriage Registration Place: city of Lawrence, county Essex, Massachusetts
Estimated Birth Year: 1851
Father: John Hirst
Father's Titles & Terms:
Mother: Hannah Gudger
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Spouse: Mary Alice Heap previous married name Jackson age 39 born England also said her 2nd marriage lived at 181 High was a nurse
Spouse's Titles & Terms:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Widowed
Spouse's Father: Servetus Jackson should be Heap not Jackson
Spouse's Father's Titles & Terms:
Spouse's Mother: Margaret Ellis
Spouse's Mother's Titles & Terms:
Record Number: 19027
Film Number: 2315511
Digital Folder Number: 4000680
Image Number: 01056
Number of Images: 1
Source Citation
"Massachusetts, Marriages, 1841-1915," index and images, FamilySearch https://familysearch.org

18 May 1910; Census Place: Lawrence Ward 4, Essex, Massachusetts; Roll: T624_583; Page: 15B; Enumeration District: 1942; Image: 608; FHL microfilm: 1374596.
Name: Alice Heap
Age in 1910: 39
Birth Year: 1871
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1904
Relation to Head of House: Servant
Marital Status: Widowed stated that she bore 5 children and only 1 was living
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Occupation: maid/cleaner at hotel
residence 47 Broadway Street

05 Jan 1920; Census Place: Methuen, Essex, Massachusetts; Roll: T625_689; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 216; Image: 1004.
Mary A Hesse (Hurst) age 45 born England said arrived in 1904 naturalized in 1908
John E Hesse (Hurst) age 09 born MA

1900 - 1920 Seminole, Chattooga County Georgia
John H White M born GA Oct 1863 married 14 Jul 1894 Chattooga Co GA (listed as James K White 1920 census)
Spouse Nancy B ATKINS White F born GA Nov 1873
Child Lewis H White April 1895
Child Palmer/Palma/Pamma C White AL Apr 1896
Child Anna M White Walker born GA Nov 1899 widowed dtr by 1920
Child Paul B White M abt 1907 GA son
Child Willard E White abt 1913 GA son

04 April 1930; Census Place: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts; Roll: 948; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 185; Image: 144.0; FHL microfilm: 2340683.
Palma or Palmer C White age 33 born Georgia USA or Alabama USA was 28 when he married window washer rented lived at 61 Eustis Street
Eleanor H White age 32 born England was 27 when she married says she arrived in 1920 and was naturalized
Evely Jane White 4 yrs 3 mos born Massachusetts daughter
John Lewis White 2 yrs 4 mos born Massachusetts son
Mary A Hirst age 59 born England widowed mother in law said she was 25 years old first time she married said she arrived US in 1901 and was naturalized
John Edmund Hirst age 19 born Massachusetts bro in law father born England transferman at a hospital

Name: Eleanor White
SSN: 012-20-1781
Last Residence: 02130 Jamaica Plain, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States of America
Born: 23 Jan 1898
Died: Nov 1972
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951)
Source Information: Ancestry.com. Social Security Death Index [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2011.
Original data: Social Security Administration. Social Security Death Index, Master File. Social Security Administration

First Name: Eleanor
Middle Name:
Last Name: White
Name Suffix:
Birth Date: 23 January 1898
Social Security Number: 012-20-1781
Place of Issuance: Massachusetts
Last Residence: Suffolk, Massachusetts
Zip Code of Last Residence: 02130
Death Date: November 1972
Estimated Age at Death: 74
Source Citation
"United States Social Security Death Index," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org

Name: John Edmund Hirst
Social Security #: 023095715
Sex: Male
Birth Date: 28 Aug 1910
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Death Date: 23 Feb 1997
Death Place: Santa Cruz county California
Mother's Maiden Name: Heap
Source Information: Ancestry.com. California Death Index, 1940-1997 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2000.
Original data: State of California. California Death Index, 1940-1997. Sacramento, CA, USA: State of California Department of Health Services, Center for Health Statistics.

Name: John E. Hirst
SSN: 023-09-5715
Last Residence: 95076 Watsonville, Santa Cruz, California, United States of America
Born: 28 Aug 1910
Died: 23 Feb 1997
State (Year) SSN issued: Massachusetts (Before 1951)

John E Hirst lived in Santa Cruz CA 1953 + employed with City Window Cleaners lived at 340 3rd wife in 1958 was Belle F. she was born in CA 11 May 1891 and died in Santa Cruz 07 Sept 1970 parents surnames not listed. She was Belle Fletcher dtr of Henry and Belle B Fletcher and lived in Santa Cruz Co 1900 - 1930 census. Belle Fletcher lived at 340 3rd in 1950 & 1953.

06 June 1900 Residence: Lawrence city, Essex, Massachusetts
Edmund Hirst age 50 said he was born March 1850 England married for 7 years arrived in 1870 card grinder / cotton lived at 79 Oxford Street
Maggie Hirst age 50 born Ireland Nov 1849 no children arrived 1870

Name: Edmund Hirst
Titles & Terms:
Event: Marriage
Event Date: 07 Oct 1892
Event Place: Lawrence, Essex, Massachusetts
Gender: Male
Age: 43
Marital Status: Widowed
Race:
Birth Date:
Birthplace: England
Marriage Registration Year:
Marriage Registration Place:
Estimated Birth Year: 1849
Father: John
Father's Titles & Terms:
Mother: Hannah
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Spouse: Margaret Wilson
Spouse's Titles & Terms:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father: Thomas
Spouse's Father's Titles & Terms:
Spouse's Mother: Fannie
Spouse's Mother's Titles & Terms:
Record Number: 489
Film Number: 1651233
Digital Folder Number: 4332364
Image Number: 00398
Number of Images:
Source Citation
"Massachusetts, Marriages, 1841-1915," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org

Name: Margaret Hirst
Titles & Terms:
Event: Death
Event Date: 06 Sep 1910
Event Place: Lawrence, Massachusetts
Residence:
Street Address:
Gender: Female
Age: 73
Marital Status: Married
Occupation:
Birth Date: 01 Feb 1837
Birthplace: Ireland
Estimated Birth Year:
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Cemetery:
Father: John Wilson
Father's Titles & Terms:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother: Fannie Thompson
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Mother's Birthplace:
Additional Relatives:
Spouse: Edmund Hirst
Volume/Page/Certificate Number: 392
Film Number: 2314428
Frame Number:
Digital Folder Number: 4283180
Image Number: 01642
Source Citation
"Massachusetts, Deaths, 1841-1915," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.or

Name: John Halacan
Titles & Terms:
Event: Birth
Event Date: 29 Aug 1910
Event Place: 17 Melvin, Lawrence, Massachusetts
Gender:
Race:
Registration Date:
Registration Place:
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Christening Age:
Death Date:
Death Age:
Father: John Halacan born England laborer
Father's Titles & Terms:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother: Alice Heap born England
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Paternal Grandfather:
Paternal Grandmother:
Maternal Grandfather:
Maternal Grandmother:
Additional Relatives:
Volume/Page/Certificate Number: 555 p 47
Film Number: 2315295
Digital Folder Number: 4401712
Image Number: 126
Source Citation
"Massachusetts, Births, 1841-1915," index and images, FamilySearch https://familysearch.org

Name: Mary Alice Heap widow
Gender: F (Female)
Residence Year: 1910
Street Address: 17 Melvin
Residence Place: Lawrence, Massachusetts
Publication Title: Lawrence, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1910

Name: Mrs Mary A Hirst
Gender: F (Female)
Residence Year: 1921
Street Address: 61 Eustis Rox
Residence Place: Boston, Massachusetts
Publication Title: Boston, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1921

Name: Mary A Hirst widow of Edmond
Residence Year: 1939
Street Address: 61 Eustis Rox
Residence Place: Boston, Massachusetts
Publication Title: Boston, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1939
John E Hirst wife Alice P at same address

Name: Eleanor H White
Gender: M (Male)
Residence Year: 1937
Street Address: 4 Winslow Rox
Residence Place: Boston, Massachusetts
Spouse: Palma C White
Publication Title: Boston, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1937

Name: Eleanor White
Gender: F (Female)
Residence Year: 1962
Street Address: 79 Jamaica
Residence Place: Boston, Massachusetts
Spouse: Palmer White
Publication Title: Boston, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1962
Name: Eleanor White
Gender: M (Male)
Residence Year: 1947
Street Address: 8 Huckins Box
Residence Place: Boston, Massachusetts
Spouse: Palma C White
Publication Title: Boston, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1947

I did not find Mary A Hirst in the Santa Cruz directories.
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