By the way, Jose was the sibling of Norberta, not the same Manuel that was Alfred's father (or my grandfather) Manuel Luna was his cousin. I understand the confusion, because Norberta also had a brother named Manuel.
Also, I met a "Cuca" awhile ago in Chicago. She was the daughter of Manuel Herrera, who would be siblings to Norberta and Jose. Her last name was Ramirez - and I would love to get in touch with her again!!!