Last name: Born - from Herschel Island
Hello. My grandfather, Edwin Born, was born on Herschel Island in October 1910. Now through family I heard that his dad came from Germany and worked on the whaling ship, the Karluk, prior to it being sold to the Canadian government. His first name may be "Edwin" as well (seems to be passed down) but I'm not sure. I know he married a native woman (some in my family say she was Cherokee but that doesn't make sense to me)who may have been named Suzanne or Susan. My grandfather's death certificate says that her last name was "Dahl" but I find nothing on her. My grandfather immigrated to San Francisco in his teens. I'm not sure if his parents stayed in Canada or came with him. My own father is incommunicado so I can't ask him about this stuff. I guess my question is regarding where to find any records about my great grandfather/great grandmother. Thanks for any help!
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Edin Born - from Herschel Island
1940 Name: Edwin Born Respondent: Yes Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911 Gender: Male Race: Indian (Native American) Birthplace: Herschel Is Canada Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Home in 1940: South San Francisco, San Mateo, California View Map Street: Fourth Lane House Number: 524 Farm: No Inferred Residence in 1935: South San Francisco, San Mateo, California Residence in 1935: Same House Sheet Number: 7B Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 163 Occupation: Teamster House Owned or Rented: Rented Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 25 Attended School or College: No Highest Grade Completed: High School, 4th year Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 40 Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work Weeks Worked in 1939: 43 Income: 1900 + Name: Adeline H Born Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1909 Gender: Female Race: White Birthplace: California Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Wife Home in 1940: South San Francisco, San Mateo, California View Map Street: Fourth Lane House Number: 524 Inferred Residence in 1935: South San Francisco, San Mateo, California Residence in 1935: Same House Sheet Number: 7B Attended School or College: No Highest Grade Completed: High School, 4th year Weeks Worked in 1939: 0 Income: 0 + Name: Dirk E Born Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1933 Gender: Male Race: Indian (Native American) Birthplace: California Marital Status: Single Relation to Head of House: Son + Name: Gail H Born Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1939 Gender: Female Race: Indian (Native American) Birthplace: California Marital Status: Single Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Name: Edwin Dirk Born Birth Date: 4 Mar 1933 Gender: Male Mother's Maiden Name: Fisher Birth County: San Mateo
Name: Edwin Dirk Born Gender: Male Residence State: California Spouse: Marleen Carattini Spouse Residence State: California Marriage Date: 5 Jul 1974 Marriage County: Douglas Officiant Type: Religious celebrant Recorded Date: 10 Jul 1974 Recorded County: Douglas
Name: Helen Gail Born Birth Date: 14 Dec 1938 Gender: Female Mother's Maiden Name: Fischer Birth County: San Mateo
divorce Name: Gail H Born Spouse Name: William E Werder Location: San Mateo Date: Dec 1975
Adeline H also went by Helen
Name: Helen Born SSN: 553-01-1115 Last Residence: 94080 South San Francisco, San Mateo, California, United States of America Born: 19 May 1908 Died: 17 Oct 2000 State (Year) SSN issued: California (1952)
1920 Name: Helen Fischer Age: 11 Birth Year: abt 1909 Birthplace: California Home in 1920: South San Francisco, San Mateo, California Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Daughter Marital Status: Single Father's Name: John Fischer Father's Birthplace: Germany Mother's Name: Adele Fischer Mother's Birthplace: Austria Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes + John Fischer 46 b germany Adele Fischer 46 b austria Joseph Fischer 21 Steven Fischer 18 Teddy Fischer 15 Marian Fischer 13 Lawernce Fischer 10 Robert Fischer 9 Catherine Fischer 7
obit Name: Helen Born Publication Date: 19 Oct 2000 Publication Place: San Mateo T, ca Death Date: abt 2000 Death Place: Age at Death: 92 Birth Date: Abt 1908
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Re: Edwin Born - from Herschel Island
Thanks Ell - I appreciate your work however I may not have made myself clear in that I am looking for the next generation (older). My grandfather is the Edwin that you covered however I would love to find information on his parents. I have contacted the Yukon Vital Statistics in Whitehore and they had nothing - not even a record of my grandfather. Thanks again
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Re: Edwin Born - from Herschel Island
if you obtain a copy of his SS5 - it should show his parents names 0 whether or not deceased
Name: Edwin Born Gender: Male Birth Date: 17 Oct 1910 Birth Place: Canada Death Date: 25 Feb 1956 Death Place: San Mateo Mother's Maiden Name: Dahl Father's Surname: Born
THINK (TOOOOOOOOOOOOO much of a coincidence)
Name: Caroline M Born [Caroline M Dahl] Gender: Female Birth Date: 5 Jan 1877 Birth Place: Michigan Death Date: 1 Aug 1956 Death Place: Los Angeles Father's Surname: Dahl
1920 Name: Charles Born [Charles Boris] Age: 49 Birth Year: abt 1871 Birthplace: New York Home in 1920: Los Angeles Assembly District 61, Los Angeles, California Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Caroline M Born Father's Birthplace: Alsace-Lorraine Mother's Birthplace: Germany Home Owned: Own Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes + Name: Caroline M Born [Caroline M Boris] Age: 43 Birth Year: abt 1877 Birthplace: Michigan Home in 1920: Los Angeles Assembly District 61, Los Angeles, California Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Wife Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Charles Born Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes + Name: Edwin Born [Edwin Boris] Age: 9 Birth Year: abt 1911 Birthplace: California Home in 1920: Los Angeles Assembly District 61, Los Angeles, California Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Son Marital Status: Single Father's Name: Charles Born Father's Birthplace: New York Mother's Name: Caroline M Born Mother's Birthplace: Michigan + Name: Wilbur R Born [Wilbur R Boris] Age: 7 Birth Year: abt 1913 Birthplace: California Home in 1920: Los Angeles Assembly District 61, Los Angeles, California Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Son Marital Status: Single Father's Name: Charles Born Father's Birthplace: New York Mother's Name: Caroline M Born Mother's Birthplace: Michigan + Name: Howard R Born Age: 5 Birth Year: abt 1915 Birthplace: Michigan Home in 1920: Los Angeles Assembly District 61, Los Angeles, California Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Son Marital Status: Single Father's Name: Charles Born Father's Birthplace: New York Mother's Name: Caroline M Born Mother's Birthplace: Michigan + Name: Doris M Born [Doris M Boris] Age: 3 [3 6/12] Birth Year: abt 1917 [abt 1916] Birthplace: California Home in 1920: Los Angeles Assembly District 61, Los Angeles, California Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Daughter Marital Status: Single Father's Name: Charles Born Father's Birthplace: New York Mother's Name: Caroline M Born Mother's Birthplace: Michigan
Name: Wilbur R Born Birth Date: 29 Dec 1912 Gender: Male Mother's Maiden Name: Dahl Birth County: Los Angeles
Name: Doris M Born Birth Date: 15 May 1916 Gender: Female Mother's Maiden Name: Dahl Birth County: Los Angeles
Name: Wilbur Robert Born Birth Date: 29 Dec 1912 Age at Death: 53 Death Date: 17 Jun 1966 Burial Place: Los Angeles National Cemetery, Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California
Name: Wilbur R Born Social Security #: 551100157 Gender: Male Birth Date: 29 Dec 1912 Birth Place: California Death Date: 17 Jun 1966 Death Place: Los Angeles Mother's Maiden Name: Dahl
1930 Name: Charles Born Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1871 Birthplace: New York Race: White Home in 1930: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California View Map Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Caroline F Born Father's Name: Val G Born Father's Birthplace: Germany Mother's Birthplace: Germany + Name: Caroline F Born Gender: Female Birth Year: abt 1877 Birthplace: Michigan Race: White Home in 1930: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California View Map Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Wife Spouse's Name: Charles Born Father's Birthplace: Norway Mother's Birthplace: Norway + Name: Wilbur R Born Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1913 Birthplace: California Race: White Home in 1930: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California View Map Marital Status: Single Relation to Head of House: Son Father's Name: Charles Born Father's Birthplace: New York Mother's Name: Caroline F Born Mother's Birthplace: Michigan + Name: Howard R Born Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1915 Birthplace: Michigan Race: White Home in 1930: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California View Map Marital Status: Single Relation to Head of House: Son Father's Name: Charles Born Father's Birthplace: New York Mother's Name: Caroline F Born Mother's Birthplace: Michigan + Name: Doris M Born Gender: Female Birth Year: abt 1917 Birthplace: California Race: White Home in 1930: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California View Map Marital Status: Single Relation to Head of House: Daughter Father's Name: Charles Born Father's Birthplace: New York Mother's Name: Caroline F Born Mother's Birthplace: Michigan + Name: Val G Born Gender: Male Birth Year: abt 1841 Birthplace: Germany Race: White Home in 1930: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California View Map Marital Status: Widowed Immigration Year: 1863 Relation to Head of House: Father Father's Birthplace: Germany Mother's Birthplace: Germany
1940 Charles Born 69 Caroline M Born 63 Wilbur R Born 27 Street: Friar Street House Number: 14342 Inferred Residence in 1935: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, California Residence in 1935: Same House
Name: Charles Born Gender: Male Birth Date: 23 Oct 1870 Birth Place: New York Death Date: 6 Aug 1951 Death Place: Los Angeles Father's Surname: Born
Name: Charles Born Birth Date: 23 Oct 1870 Age at Death: 80 Death Date: 6 Aug 1951 Burial Place: Forest Lawn Memorial Park (Glendale) Glendale Los Angeles County California, USA Plot: Vale of Memory, Map 1, Lot 586, Space 1
Name: Valentin Born Birth Date: 1841 Germany Age at Death: 89 Death Date: 1930 Burial Place: Odd Fellows Cemetery Los Angeles Los Angeles County California
I could be way off on this but, my gut feeling is this is one of the same - it all ties in exept Native American - I cannot find in other census - anywhere in US or Canada - nothing in border xing - nothing in Alaska
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Re: Edwin Born - from Herschel Island
Thanks - and I did see this through the site however the Native American thing does not add up. My great grandmother was Native (maybe Inuit although my family says Cherokee) and my grandfather was darker skinned and definitely Native American in looks. So is my father, for that matter. It's confusing me to say the least! lol...
Again thanks for your help. Is a SS5 like a SS number here in the States?
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Re: Edwin Born - from Herschel Island
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edmondsdenise64 at ancestry.com is also researching this family
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Re: Edwin Born - from Herschel Island
Thank you so much for your help!! I really appreciate all of your efforts. I did actually find out from familysearch.org that the Indian woman was named Susan Schuhaya. I am pretty certain that is correct because I recall my grandmother writing this name in the front of a book about the Karluk. I remembered it as "Susan S -somethingorother" and when I saw this name on Family Search, I knew that was it. Hopefully this will give me some more leads.
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