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trying to find my sumpter relations

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Re: trying to find my sumpter relations

Posted: 17 Apr 2011 10:38AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello Diana.

Sorry to be slow in replying to you. Sharon alerted me to the fact you responded to her email.

My regret is that I never met Daisy (Hilda) before she died. I had a few telephone conversations with her and planned to go and visit her in Luton. My mother (her cousin) Mollie wanted to talk to her as they were close when they were young. It can't be long after that there was no reply from her phone number and I dreaded that she had passed on, so Mollie never did get to talk to her again.

So I have no link to Len Sumpter except through Hilda Rose's family and I'm not sure if I can add anything too much.

I've got no doubt that Len knew me (I was born in 1941) and I ended up in living in his house in Elmers End, Beckenham. The Rose family were very close and nearly all lived in the same road or close by. The war interrupted
lots of things and Len and Hilda were based up in Lincolnshire, she at Woodhall Spa, I believe she told me, and Len at Scampton where I was living as well, as my father was based there with my Mum. We had a lot of access to the airfield which seems strange to me now and I was taken onto Wellington and Lancaster bombers by aircrew. Strange that this Scampton connection brought the 2 Rose cousins close but that is what a war can do I suppose.

I used to go with one of my cousins and play at Len and Hilda's house near Anerley Station in South London. He was working in a biggish engineering company. This was shortly after the war when things has settled down, really early '50s period, again I don't remember seeing him though he was in the house.

So that's really all I can add.

My mother told me that there was an almighty argument with Daisy's dad ('Joe') who kicked her out of the house and it was a long time before things healed. I think it was something to do with Len and was very serious, but she keeps forgetting what it was about. She is now nearly ninety and is probably the last of this Rose generation about. She obviously knew him well and said he was a good looking man but they were all probably like that with there uniforms on!

Jacqueline (Jackie) I know very little of. I have heard only of her through my cousin Shirley. It must have been a shock to her to here she had a brother in Canada.

We assume Len never told Daisy? Strange things are kept secret in marriages that perhaps she didn't want to tell her or as you believe, she didn't know anyway.

Was the marriage Len and your mother officially ended or did he just come back to England and remarry again hoping nobody would find out in the future?

Well good luck and interesting to get in touch with you. Small world with the internet.

On the other hand
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