Wow that's brilliant thanks!! I know of this branch of the tree Cody was doing a lot on it but have not had a reply from him in a while, also know another branch living in Canada, I will look more at the books and see what else i can find. My tree has become somewhat massive i tend to get lost in it at times. I will i hope at least create a tree book but if i can find out any actual information i may make a written book of information and stories as we lost so much history with gran and grandad passing on, no one knows much our end now.