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Kasper Elder family and Engelbert Halter family

Kasper Elder family and Engelbert Halter family

Posted: 5 Feb 2006 2:42PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Halter, Elder
I am searching for information regarding Mary Ann Volk. Mary Ann Volk is my great grandmother. Mary was married to a Joseph Elder born 1831 in Russia. Thye had 2 sons Kasper Elder born in 1858 and John Elder born in 1862. Mary was also married to Mathias Halter, second marriage and had 2 sons Johann born in 1868 and Engelbert born in 1873. Kasper and Englebert farmed in Revenue-Tramping Lake area. Need lots of help on this one! Thanks. Donna Wyatt ( Nee Hlater)

Re: Kasper Elder family and Engelbert Halter family

Bette (View posts)
Posted: 3 Mar 2006 3:37AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Elder, Halder
In 1906, it looks like Kasper is living alone.
25 188 Elder Kasper Head M M 55, b. Russie , emig. 1906
District: SK Saskatchewan District (#16)
Subdistrict: 05 (Townships 35, 36, 37, 38, 39 and 40 inclusive, in ranges 16, 17, 18, 19 and 20 inclusive, west of the 3rd M, excepting those portions of Mosquito and Red Pheasants Indian Reserves in townships 40, ranges 16 and 17) Page 16
Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-18360
Residing at 30-37-20-W3

Also from 1906 census;
8 22 Halter Anglebert Head M M 31, b. Russia, emig 1906, Battleford
9 22 Halter Caroline Wife F M 28, b. Russia, emig. 1906
10 22 Halter Lawrence Son M S 2, b. USA, emig. 1906
11 22 Halter Mary Daughter F S 1, b. USA, emig. 1906
District: SK Saskatchewan District (#16)
Subdistrict: 06 (Townships 35, 36, 37, 38, 39 and 40 inclusive in ranges 21, 22, 23, 24 and 25 inclusive west of the 3rd M) Page 3
Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-18360
Residing: 16-36-21-W3

Although you don't mention Anton, I expect if these families are living next door to one another on the same piece of land, they are probably related.
12 23 Halter Anton Head M M 46, b. Russia, emig 1906,
13 23 Halter Margrite Wife F M 43, b. Russia, emig 1906,
14 23 Halter Adam Son M S 22
15 23 Halter Katherine Daughter F S 19
16 23 Halter Elisabeth Daughter F S 17
17 23 Halter Barbara Daughter F S 12
18 23 Halter Mathew Son M S 11
19 23 Halter Joseph Son M S 9
Residing: 16-36-21-W3

Next to these families are a Philip & Mary Humel family who also hails from Russia, emigrated to Canadain 1906 and also had a 3-year olf dau who was born in the USA, so possibly these families travelled together.

Re: Kasper Elder family and Engelbert Halter family

Posted: 25 Jun 2006 3:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
Here is a Kasper Elder married to Mary Bliele
born may 18 1884 Manhiem Russia
He lived in Tramping Lake http://www.ourroots.ca/e/page.aspx?id=514513

transcribed wrong, but this is the above folks
Name: Kasgar Elder
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 25
Birth Date: May 1886
Birthplace: Russia
Family Number: 50
Relation to Head of House: Head
Immigration Year: 1907
Tribal: German
Province: Saskatchewan
District: Battleford
District Number: 208
Sub-District Number: 14
Census Year: 1911
Page: 5

Name: Mary Elder
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 20
Birth Date: January 1891
Birthplace: Russia
Family Number: 50
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Immigration Year: 1907
Tribal: German
Province: Saskatchewan
District: Battleford
District Number: 208
Sub-District Number: 14
Census Year: 1911
Page: 5

Name: Jordan Elder
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 1
Birth Date: March 1910
Birthplace: Saskatchewan
Family Number: 50
Relation to Head of House: Son
Tribal: German
Province: Saskatchewan
District: Battleford
District Number: 208
Sub-District Number: 14
Census Year: 1911
Page: 5


Re: Kasper Elder family and Engelbert Halter family

Chandra (View posts)
Posted: 17 Jul 2006 3:26AM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 28 Jan 2009 6:44PM GMT
Surnames: Froehlich
Hi Donna,

I believe we are related! I have your grandfather as Engelbert Halter, married to Caroline Froehlich. She was a sister to my great-grandfather, Sebastian Froehlich. I got a bunch of info from your uncle Frank Halter a while ago, stuff he had written in a record book. Most of it is accurate, but should be verified. For example, he just had his grandmother listed as Marianna Elder. There are other siblings of Engelbert listed, as well. It is pasted below.

I would appreciate it if you would contact me. I would be interested in the descendants of Engelbert and Carolina.

---info from Frank Halter---
1
Descendants of Matthew Halter
1 Matthew Halter
.. +Marianna Elder
..... 2 Engelbert Halter b: 1873 in Mannheim, Russia, d: January 15, 1938 in Tramping Lake, SK, Cda
......... +Carolina Froehlich b: July 03, 1878 in Mannheim, Russia m: Bet. 1902 - 1903 in Towner, North Dakota,
US d: January 28, 1950 in Tramping Lake, SK
............ 3 Lawrence Halter b: December 13, 1903 in Towner, North Dakota, US d: January 31, 1982
................ +Cassiana Wildeman b: January 10, 1903 m: November 19, 1924
............ 3 Mary Halter b: September 27, 1905 in Towner, North Dakota, US
................ +Phillip Schneider b: February 25, 1905 in Towner, N.D. m: November 25, 1925 in Tramping Lake,
SK, Cda d: February 18, 1987 in Saskatoon, SK
............ 3 Frank Halter b: April 28, 1907 in Tramping Lake, SK, Cda
................ +Catherina Lang b: April 11, 1910 in Tramping Lake, SK, Cda m: August 06, 1928 in Tramping Lake,
SK, Cda d: May 25, 1997 in Kerrobert, Saskatchewan
............ 3 Anna Halter b: January 19, 1909 in Tramping Lake, SK, Cda d: March 09, 1996 in Tramping Lake, SK,
Cda
................ +John Lang b: April 05, 1906 in Towner, North Dakota, US m: July 19, 1927 in Tramping Lake, SK,
Cda d: October 03, 1990 in Wilkie, SK, buried at Tramping Lake
............ 3 Magdalena "Lena" Halter b: September 10, 1910 in Tramping Lake, SK, Cda d: July 11, 2006 in
Kerrobert, Saskatchewan, Canada
................ +George Borschneck b: March 27, 1910 m: November 26, 1936 in Tramping Lake, SK, Cda d: June
13, 1977
............ 3 Theresa Halter b: April 07, 1912 in Tramping Lake, SK, Cda d: April 1998 in Tramping Lake, SK
................ +Andrew Ganie b: April 12, 1908 m: July 06, 1932 in Tramping Lake, SK, Cda d: November 28, 1981
............ 3 Helen Halter b: January 1915 in Tramping Lake, SK, Cda d: 1920 in Tramping Lake, SK, Cda
............ 3 Sophie Halter b: October 08, 1916 in Tramping Lake, SK, Cda
................ +Ignatius Schwab b: April 29, 1915 m: April 09, 1942
............ 3 Phillip Halter b: April 03, 1919
................ +Irene Wiest b: July 03, 1922 m: July 01, 1942
............ 3 Florentina Halter b: July 1922 d: 1922
..... 2 John Halter
..... 2 Mathias Halter
..... 2 Anton Halter
..... 2 Marianna Halter
......... +Heinrich
..... 2 Johanna Halter
......... +Duchscherer
..... 2 Kasper Halter

Chandra Schraefel

Re: Kasper Elder family and Engelbert Halter family

Donna Wyatt (nee Halter) (View posts)
Posted: 18 Jul 2006 12:10PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Chandra Yes, we would be related. Wow, neat!
If you woud like to contact me, another cousin and I have just completed a Halter family history book. And I do have some info for you if you let me know what you would like.
As well I have a copy of the Froehlich family history book written by Sebastian Froehlich. My e-mail address is dlwyatt@sasktel.net. Look forward to hearing from you. Donna

Re: Kasper Elder family and Engelbert Halter family

Posted: 13 Aug 2008 2:08AM GMT
Classification: Query
Are you still looking for information about Engelbert Halter? I have some information on him.

Engelbert Halter
Birth: 1873
Baden, Russia.
Death: 15 Jan 1938
Tramping Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada.
Burial: St. Michael's cemetery, (Row #14,Plot #6)
Tramping Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada.

Englebert Halter's Wife:

Caroline Frohlich
Birth: 13 Jul 1878
Mannhiem, Russia
Death: 28 Jan 1950
Tramping Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada.
Burial: St. Michael's cemetery, (Row #14,Plot #7)

Son of Engelbert Halter and Caroline (Frohlich) Halter:

Lawrence Halter
Birth 13 Dec 1903
Towner, McHenry county, North Dakota, USA.
Death 31 Jan 1982
Kerrobert, Saskatchewan, Canada.
Burial: St. Michael's Cemetery,(Row #22,Plot #11),
Tramping Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada.

Lawrence Married: 1924, St. Michael's Catholic church
Tramping Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada.
Wife:
Cassiana Wildeman (my relative)
Birth: 10 Jan 1903
Gove county, Kansas, USA.
Death: 18 May 1975
Tramping Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada.
Burial: St Michael's Cemetery (Row #22,Plot #12)
Tramping Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada

Lawrence & Cassiana (Wildeman) Halter's children:

1. Regina Halter
2. Anita Halter
3. Frances Halter
3 May 1926 - 5 Sep 1996
4. Albert Halter
15 Sep 1927 -11 Nov 1985
5. Magdalena "Lena" halter
29 Dec 1928 - 1 Sep 2002
6. Pius Halter
6 Jul 1930 -20 Feb 2001
7. Lawrence Halter Jr.
29 Mar 1932 - 6 Oct 2001

I have pictures of Engelbert, Caroline, Lawrence, Cassiana and their children. A picture of Engelbert and Caroline Halter's headstone at St. Michael's cemetery, and also their house that they built and lived in, in their retirement, in Tramping Lake, Saskatchewam, Can. If you don't already have this info, there it is, if you would like the pictures, just email me and I will email the pictures to you. sharireach@hotmail.com
from
Shari Reach.

Re: Kasper Elder family and Engelbert Halter family

Posted: 3 Nov 2010 6:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello. I hope after all this time you still havew the same e-mail address.

I am researching the family history of a woman who is the granddaughter of Stanley Froelich (MANY spelling variations), who was one of those who settled at Tramping Lake Saskatchewan, a German speaking Russian arriving in Canada in 1906. Her mother, Theresa Mary Froehlich was born at Tramping Lake in 1918.

I noted your e-mail said you had a copy of a family history by Sebastian Froehlich. Was he a brother of Stanley?

Also, my reading of census records leads me to suggest that Charles Froehlich was the father of Stanley, Karl, Sebastian, and Lawrence. Do you have information on that?

Many thanks if you receive this ...
Brenda Turner

Re: Kasper Elder family and Engelbert Halter family

Posted: 5 Jun 2011 1:09AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello. I am not too sure if you are still checking here. I will just say that I noticed your message. Thought I'd let you know that both your and my Froehlichs may be related. Hope to hear back from you.

Re: Kasper Elder family and Engelbert Halter family

Posted: 5 Jun 2011 1:47PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Froehlich, Simon, Halter, Zimmerman
Stanley (Stanislaus) was a brother to my great-grandfather, Sebastian Froehlich. Their father was Karl Ludwig Froehlich, who was sometimes recorded incorrectly as "Charles Louis".

Karl's family is as follows:
. 1 Karl Ludwig Froehlich b: 1852 in Mannheim, Russia, d: 09 Jun 1934 in Broadacres, SK
.. + Anna Marie Knoll b: 1854 in Mannheim, Russia, m: Mannheim, Russia, d: 1902 in Minot, ND
.... 2 Marianna Froehlich b: 01 May 1874 in Mannheim, Russia, d: 24 Sep 1938 in Tramping Lake,
SK
...... + Phillip Hummel b: 10 May 1869 in Odessa, Russia, m: 1893 in Russia, d: 14 Feb 1963 in
Saskatoon, SK
........... 2 Sebastian Froehlich b: 15 May 1876 in Mannheim, Russia, d: 29 Apr 1922 in Tramping Lake,
Saskatchewan, Canada
........... + Florentina Zimmerman b: 06 Jan 1875 in Marienthal, Russia, m: 03 Nov 1897 in Marienthal,
Russia, d: 04 Jun 1946 in Kelowna, British Columbia, Canada
........... 2 Carolina Froehlich b: 03 Jul 1878 in Mannheim, Russia, d: 28 Jan 1950 in Tramping Lake, SK
........... + Engelbert Halter b: 1873 in Mannheim, Russia,, m: Bet. 1902–1903 in Towner, North Dakota,
US, d: 15 Jan 1938 in Tramping Lake, SK, Cda
........... 2 Stanislaus Froehlich b: 26 Aug 1880 in Mannheim, Russia, d: 27 Jun 1959 in Tramping Lake,
SK
........... + Susanna Simon b: 23 Dec 1878 in South Russia, d: 28 Nov 1951 in Tramping Lake, SK
........... 2 Lorenz Froehlich b: 1884 in Mannheim, Russia, d: 1923 in Tramping Lake, SK
........... + Katherine Simon m: 1906 in Tramping Lake, SK
........... 2 Joseph Froehlich b: 1888 in Mannheim, Russia,, d: 1956 in Broadacres, SK
........... + Elizabeth Halter m: 24 Nov 1909 in Tramping Lake, SK, Cda, d: 1941
........... 2 Mathias Froehlich b: 1891 in Mannheim, Russia, d: 18 Oct 1946 in Broadacres, SK
........... + Elizabeth Baumstarck b: 1891, d: 1972 in Kerrobert, Saskatchewan, buried at Broadacres, SK
........... 2 Anna Froehlich b: 16 Jul 1894 in Mannheim, Russia, d: 22 Aug 1929 in Tramping Lake, SK
........... + Philip Meier b: 20 May 1887, m: 27 Nov 1911 in 24-36-22-W3rd (Tramping Lake), d: 19 Aug
1962
........... 2 Marie Froehlich
..... + Elizabeth Margaret Fritz b: 18 Apr 1858 in Russia, d: 15 Sep 1938 in Broadacres, SK

The Sebastian Froehlich who did the family history book was the great-grandson of Karl Ludwig.

I would love to get in touch with Theresa's daughter, if she is interested.

Chandra

Re: Kasper Elder family and Engelbert Halter family

Posted: 5 Jun 2011 1:56PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Time. Love to hear more about your Froehlichs!

Chandra
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