ANCESTORS OF TIMOTHY HARVEY....THE METHODIST PASTOR
HELLO,
I HAVE AN 1877 BOOK OF THE HISTORY OF SHEFFORD, WHICH BELONGED TO PASTOR TIMOTHY HARVEY, A METHODIST MINISTER.
THIS BOOK SAYS THOMAS CARTRITE HARVEY WAS THE FIRST BABY BORN IN THIS NEW SETTLEMENT, 4/8/1823.
TIMOTHY HARVEY AFTERWARD SETTLED IN A 160 ACRE FARM, 3 MILES FROM WATERLOO, ON THE OLD "GRANBY ROAD", AND BUILT A SCHOOL HOUSE, WHERE HIS CHILDREN AND HIS GRANDCHILDREN WERE EDUCATED.
THIS PASTOR, TIMOTHY HARVEY, MARRIED 4 TIMES...(MY HE WAS FRUITFUL!!!)
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN THIS BOOK, OR KNOW OF THIS FAMILY (ALSO MENTIONS THE NAME LOUIS LELARK?) PLEASE CONTACT ME.
THIS BOOK IS IN FAIR CONDITION, YET VERY FRAGILE, AS IT IS 126 YEARS OLD. WHAT A TREASURE!!!
SINCERELY, JODI KNAPP 702-696-1778, 702-275-7205
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Re: ANCESTORS OF TIMOTHY HARVEY....THE METHODIST PASTOR
Hello - I am the great great grand daughter of Timothy Harvey (who had 4 wives and lived on the Grandby Road). I am also the great grand daughter of the first wife,Clarinda Clark. I am the great grand daughter of Thomas Caterick Harvey, their son. I would be interested in any information that you have. My relatives have spoken of the existence of this book, but no one seems to have a copy. I do not know of the Louis Leclerk, but wonder if it has something to do with the Clarks.
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Clarinda Clark' s brother was Louis Clark, although he had a son also named Louis Clark. I don' t see how this book ever belonged to Timothy as he was deceased when this book came about. Surely it was Thomas Cartrite Harvey's book. Thomas was the first baby born in the newly named town of Waterloo renamed by the new owner (Hezekiah Robinson) of the saw mill and grist mill at Lewis Falls built 30 years prior by the first inhabitant Captain Ezekiel Lewis (1793), and his brother Silas Lewis sold his land (lot 22 in the 3rd range which was 200 acres) to Daniel Clark from Alburgh, Vermont in 1804 today located on the premises of the old convent on Clark Hill Street, Waterloo, Quebec. The very first baby born in the vicinity was Captain Ezekiel Lewis and Abigail Gibbs' daughter Elizabeth Lewis born May 15th, 1794 in what became downtown Waterloo. Many of the Clark family are buried at the Waterloo Cemetery at the foot of Clark Hill. If you need photos I would be more than happy to provide them ... Timothy came from Marlborough, New Hampshire with his brother Zephaniah and his wife Patty Frost with their children along with Patty's uncle Jeremiah Frost and his wife and children and a cousin Aaron Frost at about 1810. Zephaniah and Patty lived at Frost Village until 1822 then moved on the East side of Lake Waterloo for the remainder of their lives.... hope this helps!!
Do you have any information on Timothy,s 2 last wives, I know he married Betsey Chambers in Vermont but do not have a date, but have her deceased by 1861?
Regards, Roch Graves Royer
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Re: ANCESTORS OF TIMOTHY HARVEY....THE METHODIST PASTOR
Dear Roch,
Thank you for this information.
According to family records, and looking at the cemetery in Waterloo, here are the names and dates for Timothy's wives. He was outlived by the fourth wife, and she remarried.
First wife (my great great grandmother) Clarinda Clark born 1792 in Alburg, Vermont, married 23 Feb. 1813, died Oct. 28, 1828 of typhoid fever (also same year as giving birth to 7th child) Second wife: Pamela Lawrence born July 25 1806, married in South Stukely, Quebec 22 Sept, 1829, died 25 August 1842 in Waterloo 7 children (died of TB according to family memories) Third wife: Betsy Chambers born 22 January 1822 in Dunham, Quebec, married 12 Feb. 1844 in Berkshire, Vermont, died 28 August, 1861 in Waterloo no children cause of death: cancer (according to family) Fourth Wife: Isabella Glenfield (later married Mr. McCord) born 1820, died in Saratoga, New York. Probably married Timothy in 1863
It is possible that the diary/book belonged to Timothy's son Thomas Caterick. I believe that Thomas was named after a well known Methodist pastor in the area. I have heard that there was a book or diary of some sort, but when I asked my cousin, who is also involved in family history, she had not heard of it. And, my father has been dead for a long time.
Thank you for your information about Timothy's arrival in Waterloo, and about the Clark family. I have very little on the Clarks - but a fair amount on the Harveys. Did you know that Timothy Harvey's father, also called Timothy Harvey served in the Revollutionary War, and was part of the continental campaign, that means he marched through Canada to the Montreal area? Very interesting story.
Also, my father told me that they brought their sheep with them, herding them north.
Great to hear from you.
Best Regards, Heather Harvey
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Re: ANCESTORS OF TIMOTHY HARVEY....THE METHODIST PASTOR
Thank you ever so much for this information! According to history books, Timothy built a clothdressing shop near corner of Allen & Main Street, Waterloo where Captain Ezekiel Lewis built his mills. In late 1823, Hezekiah Robinson entered into partnership upon the arrival of Daniel Taylor, a clothdresser from Newfane, Vermont and purchased Timothy's clothdressing shop. (I do not know when Timothy actually built this shop but I believe Timothy could be the first to open a store at Lewis Falls which became Waterloo as I previously mentionned in my last reply).....(Here is a little more about the history of Timothy's shop after he sold it) In 1825, Charles Allen, a blacksmith of Andover, Vermont joined the men's partnership. Three months later, Allen purchased Taylor's interest who continued to work at his clothdressing shop. In 1835 Daniel Taylor and Charles Allen co-partnershiped in building a foundery and established the successful Allen & Taylor Company.
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Thank you so much for this information. I was wondering if you had an idea where I may find information about the following: Was Timothy actually a Methodist minister? I did look around on line, and did not find confirmation of this, although he is listed as "Reverend" in an old family Bible. Timothy's daughter in law, Emmiline Fordyce Harvey is listed as Adventist. I understand that there was a great deal of Adventist fervour in the area in the mid 1800s and wondered if you had any information about that. As far as family legend is concerned, they talked about them as millers and farmers. My father said that they had a fulling mill (to do with the making of cloth), and he showed me where it was, but I can't really remember. I may be able to find some photos of the TC Harvey farm and TC Harvey's wife and children, if it would be helpful for your book.
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Adventism originated out of the Millerite, or Second Advent, movement of the 1840s, the Sabbatarian wing of Adventism that later developed into the Seventh-day Adventist Church flourished for a time in the Eastern Townships in Quebec. The Millerites were the followers of the teachings of William Miller who, in 1833, first shared publicly his belief in the coming Second Advent of Jesus Christ in roughly the year 1843. In Shefford, the Methodists Pastors were hard at work to change the idealism of these individuals with thoughts of conspicuous mischief who were trying to keep a faith and movement of the millerism alive. They had a church in Shefford, South Stukely and Waterloo (homes were used for religious services and called church when no actual church building were built... more often than none lacking money). According to George Jehoshaphat Mountain, a Bishop of the Methodist Church, after a visitation to Frost Village near Waterloo stated that the pillar of the cause in the neighbourhood is a tin-smith of Waterloo Village, formely a solder in the British army (he was surely talking about the 1812 war) , and now enjoying a pension. Another great preacher of the same doctrine in the township is a man who, eighteen months ago (about August 1841), ran off with a neighbour's wife. A Reverend of the Methodists church by the name of John Strachan (1778-1867), made a few visitation in the Eastern Townships but concentrated his trade in Upper Canada more precisely in Cornwall and Kingston, Ontario. Strachan, a young Scottish teacher was enticed to come to Canada by the Honarable Richard Cartwright, a businessman, office holder, judge, politician, militia officer, and author who from Albany, New York travelled to Lower Canada after the revolutionary war and moved to Kingston, Ontario where he died in 1815. Richard Cartwright had a son called Thomas Robison Cartwright, (1799-1826), who was left under the guardianship of the Reverend Strachan along with his twin brothers. Thomas had a close relationship with Strachan and was taken under Strachan's wing who educated him and others as Strachan believed to be the next generation of Upper Canadian leaders of the Mehodist Church. ***Could your Thomas Caterick or Cartrite as I have seen in other family trees could be named after this Thomas Robison Cartwright, son of Richard Cartwright and Magdalen Secord? Thomas Robison Cartwright could have visited Shefford with Revd. Strachan and met Timothy Harvey. Timothy may had such a profound connection to Thomas, he named his son in his honor?? Many individuals preached to remote locals without having the legal title of a Reverend or Pastor, and Timothy might be one of them, although it needs to be researched further for a confirmation... You mentionned about a fulling mill, which makes perfect sense that Timothy built a clothdressing shop. This fulling mill had to be located either after the saw mill and grist mill where Allen & Taylor's foundry was located on Eastern Street, Waterloo....or somewhere going toward Warden.....or toward the submerged village of Savage's Mills toward Granby. Like finding a needle in a hay stack :) Would you have a list of Timothy's children with their year of birth and death? I will include them in the book. I would be more than happy to have any information or photos you on the Harvey family in Shefford especially TC!
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Sorry to take so long to reply. 1. I am pretty sure that Timothy's son was Thomas Caterick, both from the family (who always refer to him that way, or as TC. and by the census. This is what my grandmother called him, and he would have been her father in law. 2. I am not sure if I have all of the children of Timothy, but I think they are: a. With Clarinda Clark: Eliza 1813 Martha 1815 Daniel 1818 James1820 Thomas Caterick 1823 Sarah 1825 Hannah 1828 b. With Pamela Lawrence Selea Samantha 1830 Infant 1832 Esther 1833 Infant 1836 Pheobe 1837 Infant 1839 Eliza1840 c. Betsy Chambers no children d. Isabel Glenfield McCord no children
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The 1825 Census for Shefford states that 7 souls were living in Timothy's homestead.
1 under 6 years old which is clearly TC. 3 above 6 years old and under 14 years old which are James, Daniel and Martha. 1 single female over 14 years old and under 45 years old which is Eliza. 1 married female over 14 years old and under 45 years old which is Clarinda Clark. And 1 married male over 25 years old and under 40 years old which is Timothy Harvey. He was living near his wife's family on Clark Hill, Waterloo. Clarinda was most likely pregnant with Sarah which is the reason she wasn't mentionned on the census.
Hope this helps!!
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Re: ANCESTORS OF TIMOTHY HARVEY....THE METHODIST PASTOR
Thank you for all your information. Do you know how to find out more about Clarinda Clark's family, especially her father?
By the way, according to the family she died of typhoid. She was also said to be born in Alburg, Vermont (on the boarder). I assume that she and Timothy met in Waterloo. I do have a lot of information on her mother's line (the Holbrooks).
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