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Montreal Records from the 1920's

emd10 — 2013-06-19 01:45:10Z

I need some guidance about Montreal records. I need to locate the death of a newborn baby born in a Montreal hospital on March 19, 1929. He was a hemophiliac that bled to death. Are there indexes of deaths records, or would a newspaper have a death notice in the paper? I also need a marriage record from around 1948 in Montreal. If anyone can tell me how I go about looking for these records, I would appreciate it.

Re: Cyrille/Charles Murry

FilmGirl62 — 2013-06-18 20:51:52Z

I'm the one searching for Cyrille Murray.

The marriage record from Portage, MI is online through the LDS Family Search site. His name is written as Serrel Maura. I'm not sure if it was written phonetically or not. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-16738-4677-24?cc=...

Cyrille died in Chicago, in 1927. I'm currently waiting for his death certificate. I've attached the birth record I have for my direct ancestor, but I do have the same pages for a few of their other children.

I do have Mary LaPlant Murray's death certificate. On one of their other children's death certificate which is on FamilySearch's index, it says he was from Montreal. I don't know if that was true or not.

My grandfather didn't know anything about his paternal side as his father died when he was 3. All he was told by his mother was: he was supposed to be Irish and the name was Murragh, Murrah or something to that effect.

Thank you so much for replying! I've posted on the forums about Cyrille and Mary Murray before, but haven't had much luck.

James Arthur Dunbar/Lillian Hannah Ford

SueO_Canuk — 2013-06-18 02:27:45Z

I am looking for any relatives of the above. Lillian Hannah Ford was my 1st cousin 2x removed and married James Arthur Dunbar in 1914. Her father, Isaac Ford was my great granduncle and am trying to connect with his family. I do know that Lillian died in 1986 in Cote St. Luc and James died in 1966 and both are buried in Mt. Royal Cemetery. However, I cannot find any records of any children. Lillian Hannah had two sisters, Edith, who never married and died in Montreal in 1989 and Elizabeth who died at 14 months in 1891. She also had a brother, William, born in 1893 who I also cannot find any other records for.

If there are any relatives out there, I would very much appreciate more info.

Thanks a bunch in advance,
Sue

Re: Cyrille/Charles Murry

daciodan — 2013-06-17 19:44:12Z

There is no other data that I could find to confirm the surname or parentage of Cyrille Murry/Murray/Morin/Maura.

He appears in the majority of US records as Cyrille Murray/Murry. The instance of "Charles" is an anomaly, most likely the 1870 census transcriber took a best guess.

The Houghton County, Michigan Dibean Marriage Index - transcribed his name as Serrel MAURA. The Dibean's are excellent transcribers. http://files.usgwarchives.net/mi/houghton/vitals/marriages/d...

It appears Cyrille died after 1920 in Michigan. I found him living in Marquette, Michigan in 1920. He was the informant on his wife's (Mary Laplante) death cert in 1917. I didn't find census data for him in 1900, 1910. I suspect he worked for the railroad, this may be the reason he did not appear in those census with his wife and children. I also suspect his death record may not have clues to his parentage, but I would still seek this record.

The marriage record for Cyrille Murry [SERREL MAURA] and Mary Laplant is the key to taking this search backwards. The records exists, but is not-online. Go here: http://www.houghtoncounty.net/directory-hcclerk.shtml.

You might also post on the Houghton (County), Michigan message board, and see if a volunteer who researches at the County Court House, might have a look at the record for you, and give you all and any details on it.

Come back when you get more data, and we'll see if we can't help you work back into Canada.

Re: Cyrille/Charles Murry

joyness1 — 2013-06-16 22:21:45Z

Cyrille's original surname was Morin.

Cyril Murray in entry for Wilfred Paul Murray, "Michigan, Death Certificates, 1921-1952"
Name: Wilfred Paul Murray
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 18 Oct 1942
Event Place: Marquette, Marquette, Michigan, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 64
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 17 Jan 1878
Birthplace: Marquette, Michigan
Birth Year (Estimated): 1878
Father's Name: Cyril Murray
Mother's Name: Mary La Plante
GS Film number: 1972868
Digital Folder Number: 005237833
Image Number: 00368

Morin in entry for Wilfred Morin and Edith Hammer, "Michigan, Marriages, 1868-1925"
Name: Wilfred Morin
Race (Original):
Age (Expanded): 34 years
Birth Year: 1878
Birthplace: Marquette, Marquette, Michigan
Spouse's Name: Edith Hammer
Spouse's Race (Original):
Spouse's Age (Expanded): 24 years
Spouse's Birth Year: 1888
Spouse's Birthplace: Marquette, Marquette, Michigan
Event Date: 26 Jun 1912
Event Place: Marquette, Marquette, Michigan
Father's Name: Cyril Morin
Mother's Name: Mary Laplant
Spouse's Father's Name: John Hammer
Spouse's Mother's Name: Don'T Know
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
GS Film number: 2342698
Frame Number:
Digital Folder Number: 4209169
Image Number: 15
Reference ID: v 3 p 418 rn 139
Sources

There is other info available.

Chris

Re: Cyrille/Charles Murry

daciodan — 2013-06-16 17:29:05Z

There is not enough data to search in Canada for this person.

The first issue is origin. Was this person French Canadian origin? This can be (relatively) determined by how they (and their parentage) are identified in the US census.

If they were FC origin, then the surname "Murry/Murray" is most likely an Anglicization of (possibly) Maurin, Morin or Marier.

The second issue is the marriage record. This record should be searched for, and is likely to be a parish record and will not be found on-line. This record will list the parents of both parties. Where exactly was the bride's family living at the time of the marriage?

A death record *might* list or give clues to possible parentage. Names of at least one of parents is mandatory for any search.

Their childrens' bap records (again, not on-line) should also be searched for and examined, this will help identify and confirm what the surname was before it was Anglicized.

There are other back doors (ie, associated family members, any siblings that migrated?) to use if these steps fail, but these are steps to take before attempting a search in Canada.

Cyrille/Charles Murry

georgiabutka — 2013-06-16 13:30:24Z

I know of someone looking for info on her 3rdgreat grandfather cyrille/Charles Murry who married Mary La Plant
in 1863 Portage Michigan USA.
Cyrille/Charles was I believe born in montreal 1842,she has census for 1870 and he was listed as Charles Murry,I saw the 1880 census he was listed as cyrille. Both census was from the USA. She just is in need of info before 1863 while he was in Canada.

Re: Olivier Neveu married to Angele Richer

shelleycelello — 2013-06-12 01:57:48Z

These weren't error's in census records or anything. This is people being careless putting one of their family members with the wrong family on here. It really bothers me. Messes everything up.

Re: Olivier Neveu married to Angele Richer

shelleycelello — 2013-06-12 01:57:07Z

Found Joseph Alfred and pamela in ancestry.com. Huge error. Two families collided. There was a Fredrick and Mary neveau in same town. Several of their children listed as children of Alfred and Pamela. Blanche, Edna, Clifford, and they also had an Oscar as did Alfred and Pamela. Maybe this is where the error came in. They didn't have a Henry either. I am not a member of ancestry.com. Have been thinking of getting membership but I am not sure now that I see how careless people are. 1905 Census shows Joseph Alfred and Pamela in Pound, WI (Near Coleman where some of the children were born)Laura was the first child. Then Ernest, Leona, Alfred, Eva, Oscar and Ida.

Re: Olivier Neveu married to Angele Richer

shelleycelello — 2013-06-12 01:55:47Z

I have the marriage record. I am very puzzled by Angele "Hand." Everything else says Angele Richer.

Re: Olivier Neveu married to Angele Richer

shelleycelello — 2013-06-12 01:55:18Z

Ida's sister Laura was my great grandmother. Email me at shelleycelello@yahoo.com.

Re: GLOVER family emigrated to Montreal

JanOSullivan — 2013-06-11 21:37:19Z

That would be fantastic, thank you so much for the kind offer, much appreciated. Enjoy the trip, thanks

Re: Olivier Neveu married to Angele Richer

joyness1 — 2013-06-11 18:21:23Z

I was not talking about other peoples' files.
I was simply saying that there are often errors in the sctual records.
People, after all, were human.
I have the actual records.
Chris

Re: Olivier Neveu married to Angele Richer

joyness1 — 2013-06-11 18:18:27Z

Fredrick Neveu was the s/o Damase Neveu and Julienne Galarneau married Peshtigo,WI 25 May 1877.
Damase was a brother of your Alfred married to Pomella Gauthier.

Chris

Re: Olivier Neveu married to Angele Richer

joyness1 — 2013-06-11 18:04:14Z

Sometimes, it is just, quite simply, an error. I have an ancestor's marriage record where the priest put the Groom's Mother's name where the Bride's name belonged.
Alfred appears with Olivier and Angele in the 1881 Census in
Ste-Scholastique.

All of the ancestry is available.

Chris

Re: GLOVER family emigrated to Montreal

acctwizard — 2013-06-11 16:08:06Z

Hi Jan,

I will be going on what I call a grave walk in the next two weeks. One of my stops will be Notre Dame des Neiges Cemetery.

Would you like a picture if there is a headstone?

Re: Olivier Neveu married to Angele Richer

joyness1 — 2013-06-11 14:56:39Z

TYPO: Angelique Brazeau

Chris

Re: Olivier Neveu married to Angele Richer

joyness1 — 2013-06-11 14:54:51Z

Pomella Gauthier, "Wisconsin, Marriages, 1836-1930"
Name: Alfred Neveux
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Pomella Gauthier
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 02 Apr 1888
Event Place: Marinette, Marinette, Wisconsin
Father's Name: Olivier Neveux
Mother's Name: Angile Hand
Spouse's Father's Name: Xavier Gauthier
Spouse's Mother's Name: Margarette Boisveun
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00351-7
System Origin: Wisconsin-EASy
GS Film number: 1292021
Reference ID: 2126

Olivier Neveu [Joachim Neveu and Ursule Biroleau]
married 28 Jan 1833 Mirabel, Quebec
Angele Richer [Jean-Baptiste Richer and Angelique Brzaeau]

Francois-Xavier Gauthier [Augustin Gauthier and Archange Foucault]
married 7 Jan 1856 Ste-Scholastique, Deux Montagnes, Quebec
Marguerite Monet dit Boisvenu [Joseph Monet dit Boisvenu and Narcisse Loyer].

Chris

Re: GLOVER family emigrated to Montreal

JanOSullivan — 2013-06-10 17:04:57Z

Thanks Eileen, you have been very busy on my account. I have been told that the reason for the 2 marriages was that it was a mixed marriage. Peter was COI and Margaret was RC and they had to keep both priests happy apparently. The William on Griffiths is my GG Grandfather who is Peter's brother. I have been to see the registers on microfilm at the NLI in Dublin but there is no further information unfortunately. The parish records are somewhat incomplete and the earliest records are 1803. A local historian is convinced that the Glovers came from the north of Ireland to build churches in Kerry. I have a Walter who i believe is my link to the past.
Walter is listed as a soldier at his daughter's wedding in Killeentierna 1848. He also shows up in Castletownbere in 1822.
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details...

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details...

I presume he was stationed at the military base there. I have had a search done of the regiments and again no luck. I keep drawing a blank with Walter which is why I decided to chase Peter to see if anything shows up in his Canadian records which might give me an idea of where they originally hailed from.
Many thanks for all your help.Much appreciated

Re: GLOVER family emigrated to Montreal

EileenWilson001 — 2013-06-10 15:08:15Z

They were married in Co. Kerry which suggests that at least Margaret was from there. Getting the original record on microfilm from the LDS will likely provide more info.

www.familysearch.org

Name: Peter Glover
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Margaret Warren
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 28 Mar 1865
Event Place: Killarney, Kerry, Ireland
Father's Name: William Glover
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: John Warren

Interesting that I find a second marriage record for a different date:

Name: Peter Glover
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Age:
Spouse's Name: Margaret Warren
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 19 Nov 1867
Event Place: Kerry Co., Ireland
Father's Name: William Glover
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: John Warren

Baptisms for some of the children:

Name: George Glover
Gender: Male
Christening Date:
Christening Place: DINGLE, KERRY, IRE
Birth Date: 01 Jan 1872
Birthplace: Dingle, Kerry, Ire
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Peter Glover
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret Warren

Name: John Glover
Gender: Male
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 14 Jun 1879
Birthplace: Killarney, Kerry, Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Peter Glover
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret Warren Glover

Name: Peter Glover
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 09 May 1874
Christening Place: ROMAN CATHOLIC,CURROW,KERRY,IRELAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Peter Glover
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margaret Warren

Name: William Glover
Gender: Male
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 20 Jul 1868
Birthplace: Kerry, Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Peter Glover
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margret Warren

Name: Margret Glover
Gender: Female
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 24 Feb 1870
Birthplace: KERRY, IRELAND
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Peter Glover
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margret Warren

Name: Abigale Glover
Gender: Female
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 14 May 1874
Birthplace: Kerry, Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Peter Glover
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margret Warren

This one gives a birth place for Peter:

Name: Catherine Glover
Gender: Female
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 09 Apr 1876
Birthplace: Kerry, Ireland
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Peter Glover
Father's Birthplace: Ranalugh
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Margret Glover Warren

Ranalough is a townland in the parish of Killeetiera, Co. Kerry.

This one makes me believe that the first marriage date is correct:

Name: Ellen Glover
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 26 Aug 1866
Christening Place: ROMAN CATHOLIC,CURROW,KERRY,IRELAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Peter Glover
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mgt. Warren

Name: Nora Glover
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 21 Jun 1865
Christening Place: ROMAN CATHOLIC,CURROW,KERRY,IRELAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Peter Glover
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mgt. Warren

There is a William Glover (Peter's father) who appears in Griffith's Valuation in Ranalough, so I believe we have identified Peter's place of origin. It is possible that William was born elsewhere.

Some Co. Kerry parish records have been transcribed, and includes one for a likely brother to Peter:

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details...

Even gives you Peter's mother's maiden name, Abigail Brosnan. And here is Peter's baptism:

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details...

Abigail is noted as Elizabeth on this record, but same maiden name.

Baptism of Peter, son of Peter & Margaret:

http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details...

Someone searching the same family:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=577427.0

Re: GLOVER family emigrated to Montreal

JanOSullivan — 2013-06-10 10:19:42Z

Doh ! That might be an idea alright. He was Peter Glover b1844, a stonemason from Killeentierna, Co. Kerry. He married Margaret Warren in 1867 and they had 10 children. They emigrated to Montreal in 1888. Peter died in 1919 and they family plot is
Notre-Dame des Neige Cemetery, Montrea, Canada
Concession 01328, Section B.
The Glovers are not originally from Kerry and my mission is to find out where they may have originated. I was hoping there might be clues in their emigration documentation or perhaps something in Canadian records somewhere.
Many thanks

Re: GLOVER family emigrated to Montreal

sstanger1 — 2013-06-10 01:45:51Z

Hi, Perhaps posting the full name of your GGGranduncle ? GLOVER - and family - might be helpful
There may be persons who will have access to resources

Glover family emigrated to Montreal

JanOSullivan — 2013-06-09 18:41:23Z

Hi there,
I am trying to find details on my GG Granduncle who emigrated from County Kerry, Ireland to Montreal. He left with his family in 1888. Could some kind person please tell me where I might find records of them entering Canada

Re: Martin, Wark,Towner,Roman,Finlayson

Thepenclw — 2013-06-09 00:07:58Z

Thank you for your reply and yes I am still very interested in the above, I would be thrilled if you would be able to provide me with any information of Alice's family.
Please contact me at Cherylwark@hotmail.com

Re: Martin, Wark,Towner,Roman,Finlayson

jarmak — 2013-06-08 18:33:45Z

Your questions about the above have just come to my attention-the martins,finlaysons are my relatives and I am the daughter of Alice Ruth Martin Finlayson.
If you are still interested and want any details let me know

Picture of Ivy Grimshaw

acctwizard — 2013-06-08 18:10:02Z

I am looking for a picture of Ivy Grimshaw who was born on Aug 28 1913 in Montreal, Quebec. She died at the age of five on Oct 21, 1918.
Her parents were Emmanuel Knott Grimshaw and his wife Martha Elizabeth Knowles of Lancashire, England.

Re: Donald Campbell m Margaret Henderson Glasgow Scotland 1842

sbrogers2 — 2013-06-06 16:15:08Z

There is tombstone information on John William Campbell, birth date 30 May 1863, on the Find A Grave web site. The family burial place is Woodland Cemetery, Des Moines, Polk County, Iowa, USA.

Re: Hodgsons of Montreal

pam_hovey — 2013-06-04 19:42:01Z

Dear Linda: My name is Pam and currently am a caregiver to Leicester Frederick John Hodgson. Here in saint john n.b. His brother is Douglas in ontario and sister Doreen, still living in montreal. Les as we call him is 95 years old and fit as a fiddle. Hope to hear from you soon. pam.hovey@gmail.com. thanks ps Les thinks you might his uncle ernies child.

Re: Family of Sidney Hibberd

Sidhibberd — 2013-06-04 00:18:27Z

To rogersuejackson A late reply to your request for information.I am Harold Sidney .Born on Nv 11 1927. In Winnipeg Manitoba Canada.Son of Harry and Alice Hibberd.My late brother was James Robert. Born in April 1924.My wife is Marjorie(Snowden)and we have two children. Jill Kuz who lives in Sarnia Ont. born 1958 in Dauphin Manitoba and Robin Sidney Hibberd also born in Dauphin in1960. Jill is married to John Kuz; they do not have children. Robin is married to Yan Ping Xu they
I've in Toronto ON. And have two daughters Sydney Xu Xi and Coco Xu Hibberd,they are 16 and 14 and are at boarding school in the U,S.A. My late brothers wife lives in Edmonton Alberta.they have 3 sons and 2 daughters. Namely , Christopher,Peter,Michael,Jane,Patricia.I can fill in the details if you wish.I used to spend some time in the summer on my aunt Irene's farm in Somme Saskatchewan, but i never met Mabel who I believe died shortly after her arrival in Canada around 1919/20. She had a 6 mth old son. I know nothing about her life in Canada. There is info about Mervyn Dutton on the net. I hope there is some info here that is of interest.Great to hear from you I am interested in the Jackson's. regards Sid.&Marj.

Objet : St. Louis Ward, Montreal

tjacynthe — 2013-06-02 02:17:01Z

Hi,
Don't know the name of the congregation. You have many nums and Soeurs Madeleine and then lodgers. The firsts one are adults but then you have children.

To help other find the census, it's page 356 and there is the link http://boards.ancestry.ca/postmessage.aspx?p=localities.nort...

Good luck !
Jacynthe

St. Louis Ward, Montreal

LAQ99 — 2013-06-01 23:36:31Z

Hello, I am trying to track down the context, if not a name, of a household in the 1891 Census. Many, many women were living in what I believe was a convent or workhouse, many of them nuns. The reference is the 365th page of Montreal Centre--> St. Louis Ward. The "Houses Inhabited" column has under it "P 4/32" and the "Families" column is "158". Many of them are Madeleine Sisters. I would simply love to know the name and address of the congregation.

Thanks,
Linda

Re: Immigration records

ghislaine001 — 2013-06-01 03:52:07Z

I make a research on the link provided, and at the Registre des compagnies au Québec (online) and found that the 'Société de recherche historique Archiv-Histo' is a privatly owned company which makes data bases related to history, since 1981. It may very well be a good company, but it compiles data from information found elsewhere. It may be a good shortcut to find information if you do not have time to do the research otherwise. Hear me well, this is my very private opinion. The best and only reliable data is the official document, which is often difficult to find.

Re: Immigration records

ksgwthw — 2013-05-31 19:23:34Z

This is not quite an answer to your question but my greatgrandfather and g g grandfather's names were Michel Thibault. Maybe I have some info that might help.

Re: Ethelred & Charlotte PAYNE

jeelco — 2013-05-31 13:10:16Z

Hi Sue
Thank you ever so much for your reply and valued information. Now to follow up on the sites you've mentioned.
It's good to be able to narrow Ethelred's death date down to just a few years.
Your help has been so much appreciated.
Kindest regards
Coleen

Re: Ethelred & Charlotte PAYNE

SueO_Canuk — 2013-05-30 23:32:16Z

Hi,
I found Ethelred and Charlotte in the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980, living at 107 Keewatin Avenue, Toronto until 1953. He had retired by then but was formerly a Caretaker. In 1957, Charlotte still resided on Keewatin as a "Widow". So that narrows his death date between 1953-57.

Due to privacy laws, there are no death records after 1940 for the public but you could try The Toronto Star archives http://pagesofthepast.ca/Default.asp They have subscriptions for 1 hr., 1 day and beyond. His obituary may be there. If you find the death date and want the actual death certificate, you could get it here:
http://www.vitalcertificates.ca/ontario/death-certificate/?g...

Hope this helps
Sue

P.S. Not a relative, just familiar with Ontario :)

Ethelred & Charlotte PAYNE

jeelco — 2013-05-30 13:56:59Z

Can someone please help me find the death record of my grt grandmother's brother who emigrated to Canada arr 15 Apr 1914, Portland, Maine.
Ethelredm& Charlotte did travel between Canada & England a couple of times over the years.
Ethelred George PAYNE b1884 Surrey, ENG & his wife Charlotte Louise Victoria POWNEY b1888 Wraysbury ENG.
1915 Living in 52 Elm Grove Avenue, Toronto.
He was a Canadian soldier at one stage.
It is said that there were no children from the marriage.
I think I have found Charlotte's death record in England, but can find nothing on Ethelred.
Is there someone who could help me or point me in the right direction, where to find records etc?
Thankyou
Col

Re: Dunakey

ckline9556 — 2013-05-30 05:24:02Z

I attached the photo of the headstone for James and Mary.

I found the death certificate as a .pdf but cannot attach it on this board.

Is there any more information about his father, John?

I would appreciate access to photos, also.

Thanks,
Christine (Dunakey) Kline

Re: Creche d'Youville orphanage records

bj_warwick — 2013-05-29 21:51:39Z

I was born on june 16th 1946 in Ste Anne's maternity hospital. Was released to the crèche on june18th. Was adopted and brought to the U.S.A. in October 1946. Named Jeannine Guilbert by the nuns. Adoptive name is Bernadette Drainville. Birth mother was 22 and was seventh of nine children. I would like some information about my ancestry.
Thank you, Bernadette Warwick

Re: famille Sanzone-Carboni

lovethefalls — 2013-05-29 05:16:09Z

Hello,
For Marie-Ange Sanzone; I check few times the cemetery registry, at Notre-Dame-des-Neiges, in Montreal.
I still cannot find her burial/grave.
_ Where should I look,place or section/lot No??

I cannot see Georges Egidio Sanzone Jr. birth certificate,
where should I look?

Keep in touch for more info.
Merci beaucoup

Re: famille Sanzone-Carboni

c_patenaude37 — 2013-05-28 22:44:36Z

Sorry,
n. 19 août 1873 en Italie, d. 12 mars 1955 à Montréal, QC, sépulture 15 mars 1955 à Mtl, Cimetière Côte-des-Neiges, QC.

For Marie-Ange Sanzone n. 25 novembre 1878 en Italie, d. 9 avril 1948 à Montréal, QC, sépulture 12 avril 1948 à Mtl, Cimetière Côte-des-Neiges, QC.

I have included Georges Egidio Sanzone Jr. birth certificate.

I am still looking for the birth place of MariaAngela and Georges Egidio in Sicily. Where ???

Keep in touch for more info.

Re: famille Sanzone-Carboni

lovethefalls — 2013-05-28 07:45:01Z

Hello,

Many thanks for your post and the data.
I did make some corrections in my post of (May 27, 5:44p.m.)

Yes, Georges Egidio Sr. had 2 living daughters and 1 son.
The third daughter died: b.1910- d.1910
I always add the number of all the children. _Living or not.

Joseph had no children, thank you for this info.

For Agostino Zappa Sr.;are you sure of his birthdate,
16 April 1873?
_Since,the entries on Census of Canada 1891-1901-1911
are as follows: About 1874
August 1873
17 August 1875
Also, I found on Roots Web: 19 August 1873.

Would like to know, is the name Carbona spelled correctly or with *ni*_Carboni? _From your previous post.

Re: famille Sanzone-Carboni

c_patenaude37 — 2013-05-28 01:35:18Z

Marie-Ange épousera Agostino (Augustin) Zappa Sr, né en Italie dans le village montagnard d’Aquila dans la province d’Aquila, dans les Abruzzes (centre de l’Italie), le 16 avril 1873 et qui immigre au Québec à ses 17 ans, donc vers
1890. Le mariage a eu lieu le 3 février 1896 à l’église St-Enfant-Jésus du Mile-End à Montréal . Augustin Sr est décédé à Montréal le 12 mars 1955 à 81 ans et 7mois , et Marie-Ange, le 9 avril 1948 à 69 ans et 4 mois.

Selon nos registres Joseph n'a pas eu d'enfants et Georges Egidio a eu 2 filles et un garçon.

Re: famille Sanzone-Carboni

lovethefalls — 2013-05-27 15:14:13Z

Allo,
(Hello)

Juste une correction des noms:

(Just a corrections of the names)

Votre grand-père, _Francesco Domenico Carmelo Sansone
2 mariages: Sorli & Carbona ou Carboni

_1 fille _ Mariangelia Sansone 1878,
fille de Sorli.

Aussi, 1 fils _Joseph*Georges Edigio* Sansone,1885(?)

(Your grandfather, _Francesco Domenico Carmelo Sansone
had 2 marriages to: Sorli & Carbona

1 daughter from Sorli named, Mariangelia Sansone _1878

Also, 1 son_ JOSEPH *GEORGES EDIGIO* Sansone from Rafaella or Raphaaella Carbona in French *PH*

Joseph *Georges Edigio* Sansone a eu 3 mariages avec des Candiennes-Françaises.
( He had 3 marriages to French-Canadian girls.)
He also had 1 son, Joseph Georges Dominique Sanzone
and 3 daughters.

1 fils_Joseph Georges Dominique Sanzone
Plus 3 filles: Marie Jeanne, Marie Berthe Aurore et finallement, _Raphaelle Gabrielle Marguerite.

Merci (Thanks)

Re: St Andrews Presby Church graveyard

bethphb — 2013-05-27 13:40:16Z

Thank you. I'll have a look.

Re: famille Sanzone-Carboni

lovethefalls — 2013-05-27 11:49:17Z

Bonjour, _Translation included
(Hello)

Je ne sais pas si vous pouvez lire en anglais;
(I do not know if you can read English;)

alors, je vais vous écrire en français.
(Therefore, I shall write to you in French.)

Pardonnez-moi mon orthographe; car je suis très rouillé avec mon français.
(Do excuse my spelling mistakes; because I am quite rusty with my French.)

1) Pour le nom *Sanzone* et *Sansone*; ce sont tous les deux correct en Italien. _Mais prononcer avec un *Z* _ SanZone.
Le nom de famille (Sanzone) veut dire: Splendide Soleil.

1) (For the name*Sanzone* and *Sansone*; these are both correct spelling in Italian. _But pronounced with a *Z*_SanZone.
The family name means _* Splendid Sun*)

Pour votre grand-père, Dominico Sanzone;
Son nom complet est: Francesco Dominico Carmelo Sansone.

(For your grandfather, Dominico Sanzone;
His full name is: Francesco Dominico Carmelo Sansone.)

Marriage No 1 avec: _ Maria Giuseppa Sorli
un enfant_ Mariangelia Sansone.

(Marriage No 1 with:_ Maria Giuseppa Sorli.
They had 1 child;_ Mariangelia Sansone.
Nov.25, 1878.)

Marriage No 2 avec: _ Raphaella Carbona en Italian ecrit avec un*F* et non avec *PH* est la traduction française.
un enfant _ Georges Dominico Egidio Sanzone.

(Marriage NO 2 with:_ Raphaella Carbona (spelled in Italian with *F* and not*PH* is the French translation.)

_Georges utilize *Georges et parfois Egidio* lorsqu'il signe son nom.

(Georges uses sometimes * Georges and Egidio* at other times; when signing.

Georges eut un enfant: Joseph Sanzone.
Et Joseph eut 3 filles.

(Georges had 1 son_ Joseph.
And Joseph had 3 daughters.)

Avez-sous le certificate de naissance de Georges Egidio?
_J'aimerais l'avoir s.v.p.
(Do you have the birth certificate of Georges Egidio?)
(I would like to have this, please.)
J'aimerais avoir les 2 certificate de marriages de votre grand-père.
(I would like to have the 2 marriages certificates of your grandfather.)

Merci beaucoup.
(Many Thanks.)

Re: Objet : Marriage in Montreal

lovethefalls — 2013-05-27 09:17:53Z

Hello c_partenaude37;

My sincere thanks to you for your post and finding this vital info. I have been searching for this date for quite some time and without any success.

Bravo! Where or how did you find this and can the marriage certificate also be found?

_ By any chance, did you know the family in question?

If so, you can write me a private message via ancestry with
further details.

Merci beaucoup et à la prochaine.

Objet : Marriage in Montreal

c_patenaude37 — 2013-05-26 20:12:46Z

3 février 1896 Paroisse St-Enfant-Jésus

famille Sanzone-Carboni

c_patenaude37 — 2013-05-26 19:43:50Z

Recherche origine en Italie de mes grands-parents Domenico Sanzone et Rafaela Carboni qui ont eu 3 enfants : Marie-Ange, Egidio et Joseph.

Re: Sampson or Samson and Aucoin b. NS Acadian

Juliaacote — 2013-05-26 18:34:36Z

Hi Nelson Eddy
It is I--Julie from Facebook. Julie Cote

Re: Sampson or Samson and Aucoin b. NS Acadian

JamesMoran59 — 2013-05-26 16:34:15Z

Hi Julie - its Jim Moran - grandson to Jeffrey Samson. Lets talk - akmoran@telus.net