Re: Charby/Sharby family of Broome County
So, when did the last names change? and Why ? And how are we related ? Thanks for the info. Thanks, Sandra
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Re: Charby/Sharby family of Broome County
The names changed when the Charbys moved to English-speaking areas. I believe the reason is that people of English background, census takers, priests, and others, thought that the name should be spelled Sharby or Sherby because that's how it sounded to them. In the case of my branch, who went from Quebec to New York State and later to Ontario, the name was spelled many different ways, but the Sherby spelling finally emerged late in the 19th century.
We're related by having a common ancestor, Francois Charby. He lived from the 1780's to around 1860 and had sons Andre and Joseph. Your branch is descended from Andre and mine from Joseph. Joseph Charby left Quebec around 1837 and lived in St. Albens, Vermont, in northern New York State, and finally in Gananoque, Ontario where he appears in the census records as Joseph Sherby. His grandson John is my great-grandfather. John later moved to Michigan where I live now.
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Re: Charby/Sharby family of Broome County
wow! Thanks for the great info! You have done a lot of research. It must have been a lot of work. So, which line kept the Charby/Chearby name? Which ever stayed in Canada? Joseph is the 1st Sharby, is this correct? Is there a large Sherby family? From Eugene, there's 6 children. Two sons and four girls. The 2 sons have 1 son each, and hopefully they will pass on the name. The only other Sharby's we have contact with is the family of Robert Sharby. Robert jr has two boys and they live in Mass. Well, I have to go back to work . Looking forward to getting more family history. My kids will be very excited to get the latest. Thanks again! Sandra
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Re: Charby/Sharby family of Broome County
Yes, I believe Joseph Sharby would have been the first of that name. I have been working on the family history since the 1970's, a bit at a time, as time allows. Joseph had several brothers who remained in Canada. Some of their descendants are the folks who live today right around Sutton and Lac Brome(formerly Knowlton)Quebec. Others moved into Ontario where I believe there are 8 or 10 Charby and Sharby families living.
There are 4 groups of Sherbys. One group went to Ohio and died out. Another group has descendants living today in Manitoba, western Canada, and in Oregon. The third group went to the Detroit area where there are descendants living, around 4 or 6 families. The last group is my own, and these people settled around Chicago before 1900 and from there have gone to Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Georgia, and Missouri.
All of the four groups are descendants of Joseph Charby, the man who left Quebec in 1837(from the village of St. Simon de Ramezay) and went eventually to Gananoque, Ontario by way of Ogdensburg NY. Gananoque was the starting point for migration to other places. Almost all the Sherby men were spring grinders in the late 1800's, whereever they lived, in the carriage industry.
I had one good visit with several Charbys at Lac Brome about 12 years ago and they have a tradition of being Irish, but I've never been able to trace the line from Quebec to Ireland or England for sure. Ideas and possibilities but no proof. The origin of William Chearby remains a mystery.
Tom Sherby
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Charby/Sharby family of Broome County
Hello Tom
Thanks, for the interesting information. Rachelle
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Re: Charby/Sharby family of Broome County
Rachelle,
I just saw your reply. Let me know if you should learn anything new from Charbys still living in Brome County. I was told once that there was an old family Bible that had important Charby information in it, somewhere in Brome County, but when I went there years ago noone knew where this Bible was.
Tom
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Re: Charby/Sharby family of Broome County
OK, Tom
I will make sure that I keep you informed of any new information I come across.
Rachelle
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Re: Charby/Sharby family of Broome County
Hello Tom. Your research has been an invaluable help to me! I'm also related to Joseph Sherby born in 1836, as he was my 3rd great grand uncle! I absolutely love seeing the pieces fit together & showing them to my kids!
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Re: Charby/Sharby family of Broome County
great job researching!!! I am trying to help my adopted friend find his birth parents he has about 8 dna matches for daudelin and vivier and provost. HIS BIRTH NAME WAS Dale Morgan Douglas born 7/7/1949 in Johnson City, ny. His dna is definitely French Canadian and Irish. The Irish seems to be from Dutchess county and the French canadian from Burlington vt Franklin county ,ny and Quebec canada.. Third cousin dna match is Derosia and Vivier. 2nd cousin match Daudelin and Vivier.His father was supposed to be in the army corp of engineers working on flood projects in Johnson city, ny. Mother a 16 year old student in JC. Any help is appreciated.
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Re: Charby/Sharby family of Broome County
I wonder if there is a local newspaper in Johnson City in which your friend could post a query seeking information. Binghampton would have a paper for sure. But there is also another another route to go. Many states now have an arrangement in which an adoptee can go to the county probate court and fill out a request form to be put in touch with their birth mother. If the mother has done the same at any point in the past then probate court staff contact both mother and the adoptee. Hopefully New York State has this arrangement. A call to the Broome County Probate Court at Binghampton or a check on their website, would be the next step.
Let me know if this is of any help. I do not myself have any known relatives who worked for the Corps of Engineers.
One last idea would be to get the 1948-1949-1950 high school year books for the Johnson City H.S. just on the chance that one of the students might have a clear resemplence to your friend. They could be ordered up through your local library from the Johnson City library usually for a small fee. Also is there a student who was present in 1948 but not in 1949, having been sent away to have the baby. In those days that was often how things were done. Then she might reappear in the 1950 yearbook. GOOD LUCK!
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