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Jeanne Aunois, femme de Pierre LeFebvre

Jeanne Aunois, femme de Pierre LeFebvre

Posted: 7 Feb 2011 8:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 5 Aug 2013 4:00PM GMT
Surnames: Aunois, LeFebvre, Miteouamigoukoué, Mite8ameg8k8e, Couc
I am hopeful to get more information on the origin of Jeanne Aunois. Apparently she is listed with various spellings of her surname in various documents, Aunois, Auneau,Aunos, Onaus, Nounou. I am unclear if there is a definitive answer as to whether she was Amerindienne, or not. I note that the marriage of Pierre Couc dit Lafleur de Cognac and Marie Miteouamigoukoué, there is a witness whose appears to be Bartholemew Aunois (Auan8i or Anara8i) who is there on behalf of Marie Mite8ameg8k8e (Miteouamigoukoué) , who is Algonquin. I am also intrigued by the LeFebvre family's side by side share of a seigneurie at what is now Becancour with Nicolas Marsolet, who came to Québec as a truchemen or translator/diplomat in 1613 (most likely) and was fluent enough in Montagnais to operate a trading post at Tadoussac for a number of years.

Clearly she lived in a mixed race world, but what was her origin?
Alternatively does anyone know the documentary source of Marcel Trudel's listing of Jeanne as Femme a marier who emigrated from France?

Re: Jeanne Aunois, femme de Pierre LeFebvre

Posted: 16 Apr 2011 2:16AM GMT
Classification: Query
we don't know for sure, a lot of us are related to Jeanne Aunois..but no one knows absolutely for sure what she was..
she was godmother or something to Marie Mite8ameg8k8e's daughter, she was at the baptism and was noted I believe by Fr. Letourneau as being a native, but in fact he didn't know who or what she was for sure, and he had a habit of noting people he wasn't clear on as being native when they were not.

There are people who will note that she was born in 1624 in France and came to Quebec, where she met and married Pierre Lefebvre..there is no clear records on if she did come from France and no record of who her parents were either.
I have no idea who she was, so her records in my tree remain an unknown.

Re: Jeanne Aunois, femme de Pierre LeFebvre

Posted: 11 Dec 2011 2:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
this is it:
** AUNEAU dit Aunois, Jeanne
Origine inconnue; d 11 s 12-02-1697 Trois-Rivières; probablement arrivée en 1645; aux rec. 66 (45 ans), rec. 67 (41 ans) et rec. 81 (54 ans) à Trois-Rivières; m vers 1646 Trois-Rivières avec Pierre LEFEBVRE; famille établie à Trois-Rivières; 7 enfants. (CI : 150; DGFQ : 686)

Re: Jeanne Aunois, femme de Pierre LeFebvre

Posted: 11 Dec 2011 9:21PM GMT
Classification: Query
yeah, there's nothing in that record that specifically saids anything about being native at all, just "origin unknown" which is written for a lot of people, my guess, badly noted documents that didn't say "came from France" which is the best theory. They weren't great about noting where every single person who came over on a ship came from exactly.
so it's always best to just say "she came from France, bad records were kept, there's nothing to say she was any kind of indian at all"

Re: Jeanne Aunois, femme de Pierre LeFebvre

Posted: 12 Dec 2011 4:22PM GMT
Classification: Query

Re: Jeanne Aunois, femme de Pierre LeFebvre

Posted: 13 Dec 2011 12:24AM GMT
Classification: Query
the priest that was present for that record had a habit of assuming what people were just because they were present at a baptism of a native child..
the french families were very often godparents to native parents who decided to baptize their child into the catholic community, if the biological parents died from the tribe, the french family would take in the child to make sure they had a good life, education, family, etc. it happened multiple times in my family.

Re: Jeanne Aunois, femme de Pierre LeFebvre

Posted: 8 Feb 2012 10:14PM GMT
Classification: Query
I have traced my family tree and found Jeanne Aunois was born in France about 1621. Her parents were born (father) in France about 1593 and (mother) in France about 1596 - unfortunastely there were no first names on either parent.Their son Ignace Lefebvre was born in Trois-Rivieres, Quebec on April 3, 1656He married Madeleine Trottier in March 1682. Their sonIgnace Denoncourt Lefebvre was born Dec. 6, 1745 in Quebec. He married Marie Girard Nov. 25, 1771. Their son Michel Denoncourt (somehow the Lefebvre part of the name was dropped). Their son Joseph Denoncourt was born Sept. 12, 1807in Quebec. He married Seraphine Beliveau Feb. 5, 1835. Their son Phillipe Denoncour (note the "t" was dropped was born Jan. 1846 in Quebec and married Elisa Fournier in march 5, 1851. Their daughter Ida Denoncour married Victor Guertin Nov. 16, 1906 in Providence, RI. Ida was my Grandmother. Hope this info was helpfi=ull.

Re: Jeanne Aunois, femme de Pierre LeFebvre

Posted: 10 Feb 2012 1:56AM GMT
Classification: Query
As far as we know she was French. There are no records stating proof wise that she was Indian, the priest who wrote that assumed, he did that a lot. He saw her at the baptism and assumed because she was present and the family of the child being baptized was Indian.
Most of the time the godparents of the native children being baptized into a church were french people, so they were present.
As for the man who was a translator and spoke montagnais..again common, my ancestors from Trois Rivieres apparently we found out spoke Michif and a lot of them were just French.
I wish we could find Jeanne's parents' names, but chances are there may not be a record of them sadly, they didn't speak english, they may not have been literate enough to spell either during that time period.

Re: Jeanne Aunois, femme de Pierre LeFebvre

Posted: 29 Aug 2012 12:18AM GMT
Classification: Query
I find it very interesting that for about 350 years Jeanne Aunois was known as a native because of her status shown on a baptisimal certificate of a native child. That status has been questioned by some who say that the priest likley documented her status as a native incorrectly. I understand that her husband was shown as Pierre Lefebvre who was not shown as native. I'm thinking that an individual with the status enjoyed by Pierre in the community would certainly be well known by the priest. And yet he still documents Jeanne, his wife, as native. Interesting for sure.

Re: Jeanne Aunois, femme de Pierre LeFebvre

Posted: 1 Aug 2013 11:25AM GMT
Classification: Query
An mtDNA test has concluded Jeanne Aunois/Auneau is of Haplogroup T2, a marker that's only found in Europeans. This is from an mtDNA test which one of Jeanne's ancestors recently took.

Here's the link: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/T2/default.aspx?section=...

Just hit Ctrl + F and type the word "Aunois" to see the results.

We can now conclusively say that Jeanne Auneau/Aunois was European, not Native.
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